From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 1 04:43:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA31684 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 04:43:10 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14844 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 04:43:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:18546 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2326-666>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 06:42:41 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971128-11595>; Sun, 31 May 1998 22:35:32 -0400 Received: from [210.154.37.2] ([210.154.37.2]:16599 "EHLO ns.funai-tky.co.jp" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971123-11595>; Sun, 31 May 1998 22:35:10 -0400 Received: from hiropu.funai-tky.co.jp ([192.168.1.19] (may be forged)) by ns.funai-tky.co.jp (8.8.6/3.4W4-FUNAI-TKY-970730) with SMTP id MAA29172 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 12:41:44 +0900 Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 12:43:53 +0900 From: hiroshi ishii To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Anyone can boot linux in brutus board? Message-Id: <35722379230.FD30HIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.24 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi! Anyone can boot Linux in brutus board? I can't boot Linux. I'm so sad................ I've got "Deborah Wallach"'s source. I traced her source. May be, stop at execve("/sbin/init",argv_init,envp_init); in init/main.c. Anyone have idea? ------------- Funai Electric Engineering Co.,LTD Hiroshi Ishii e-mail address : hiroshi@funai-tky.co.jp unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 1 09:20:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA31797 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 09:20:08 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14875 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 09:20:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:23642 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2542-668>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 11:20:02 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971105-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 03:11:59 -0400 Received: from bits.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.64.1]:1388 "EHLO BITS.bris.ac.uk" ident: "dooby") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971089-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 03:11:47 -0400 Received: from localhost (dooby@localhost) by BITS.bris.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA31604 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 09:19:46 +0100 Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 09:19:44 +0100 (BST) From: dooby To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Ok, gcc works, but my compiler doesn't like compiling kernels... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO When trying to compile my own 2.0.33 (latest patch IFAIK) I got this :- gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -m3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe -c -o arp.o arp.c In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/fddidevice.h:25, from arp.c:91: /usr/src/linux/include/linux/if_fddi.h:69: parse error before `__attribute__' /usr/src/linux/include/linux/if_fddi.h:78: parse error before `__attribute__' /usr/src/linux/include/linux/if_fddi.h:89: parse error before `__attribute__' /usr/src/linux/include/linux/if_fddi.h:103: parse error before `__attribute__' arp.c: In function `arp_send': arp.c:1680: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function arp.c:1702: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function arp.c:1703: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/src/linux/include/linux/skbuff.h:392: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function make[3]: *** [arp.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/net/ipv4' make[2]: *** [first_rule] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/net/ipv4' make[1]: *** [sub_dirs] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/net' make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2 I can't see this in the FAQ - is this me being stupid with options (I want my Ether3 working) or is is a patch bug? TIA dooby unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 1 09:47:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA31916 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 09:47:02 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14880 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 09:47:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:65388 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2072-668>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 11:46:52 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971161-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 03:39:02 -0400 Received: from [193.128.238.145] ([193.128.238.145]:3535 "EHLO pat.risccores.co.uk" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971105-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 03:38:45 -0400 Received: by mailhost.risccores.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 09:51:03 +0100 Message-ID: From: matthew To: "'ARM Linux'" Subject: LongFiles support in the ADFS fs Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 09:51:03 +0100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Has anyone considered putting LongFiles support into the ADFS filesystem? If not, I'm looking for a chance to get into kernel hacking so I volunteer myself. Comments anyone? Matt -==- -- Matthew Godbolt mailing from work matthew@argonaut.com unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 1 10:49:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA32093 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 10:49:46 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14885 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 10:49:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:4136 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2711-670>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 12:49:23 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971177-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 04:41:23 -0400 Received: from pyramid.businessmonitor.co.uk ([194.205.10.2]:2580 "EHLO pyramid.businessmonitor.co.uk" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971181-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 04:40:42 -0400 Received: from illuminated.co.uk by pyramid.businessmonitor.co.uk (8.8.7/businessmonitor1.3) id KAA20154; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 10:41:14 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <35727939.3CEF7FCC@illuminated.co.uk> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 10:49:45 +0100 From: Sam Kington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.30 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ARM Linux mailing list Subject: Re: LongFiles support in the ADFS fs References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Matthew Godbolt wrote: > > Has anyone considered putting LongFiles support into the ADFS > filesystem? If not, I'm looking for a chance to get into kernel hacking > so I volunteer myself. Isn't there already some method of handling image file systems? ISTR someone muttering about the loopback mechanism as a method of doing this, unless I was terminally confused. Sam -- Home page: http://www.illuminated.co.uk/ INWO Homebrew has moved: http://www.illuminated.co.uk/inwo/ Not my employer's opinion, no snappy quote unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 1 11:02:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA32112 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 11:02:41 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA14889 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 11:02:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:19765 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3048-670>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:02:28 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971185-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 04:48:50 -0400 Received: from [193.128.238.145] ([193.128.238.145]:4878 "EHLO pat.risccores.co.uk" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971154-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 04:47:53 -0400 Received: by mailhost.risccores.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 11:00:22 +0100 Message-ID: From: matthew To: "'ARM Linux'" Subject: RE: LongFiles support in the ADFS fs Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 11:00:20 +0100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > Matthew Godbolt wrote: > > > > Has anyone considered putting LongFiles support into the ADFS > > filesystem? If not, I'm looking for a chance to get into kernel > hacking > > so I volunteer myself. > > Isn't there already some method of handling image file systems? ISTR > someone muttering about the loopback mechanism as a method of doing > this, unless I was terminally confused. > Erm - I think you may be a tad confused here - LongFiles is a patch for ADFS which allows you to have >10 characted filenames - its not an image filesystem. LongFiles stores a file called !!!!!!!!Z! which is a 'real' catalog of the long filenames, and then each file which has a name longer than 10 characters is actually called '(C)JPT_xxx' where xxx is an offset into the 'real' catalog for the long filename. For 'image' files, loopback is the way forward - a filesystem which is stored as a file can be mounted by using losetup(1) to connect the file to /dev/loop0 and then mounting /dev/loop0 as if it were a device. There is potential for writing FSes for TBAFS, SparkFS - any takers for this? It'd be nice to be able to see into my TBAFS archives on my RiscOS partition :) Matt -==- PS> Excuse my horrible M$ Exchange client not quoting anyone properly - I'm trying to fix this! unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 1 11:05:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA32123 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 11:05:50 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA14893 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 11:05:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:19765 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2554-668>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:04:32 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971154-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 04:56:27 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:10562 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971189-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 04:55:50 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (LAA04838); Mon, 1 Jun 1998 11:03:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 11:03:01 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: Sam Kington cc: ARM Linux mailing list Subject: Re: LongFiles support in the ADFS fs In-Reply-To: <35727939.3CEF7FCC@illuminated.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Mon, 1 Jun 1998, Sam Kington wrote: > Matthew Godbolt wrote: > > > > Has anyone considered putting LongFiles support into the ADFS > > filesystem? If not, I'm looking for a chance to get into kernel hacking > > so I volunteer myself. > > Isn't there already some method of handling image file systems? ISTR > someone muttering about the loopback mechanism as a method of doing > this, unless I was terminally confused. Longfilenames isn't an image filing system. It works as a module, probably sitting on the FileV and all the other vectors (under RiscOS) which are anything to do with filenames. It detects the user trying to create/copy/whatever a file with a long filename and if there is going to be one in directory A, it creates a file called '!!!!!!!!Z!' in the directory, which contains mappings of short filenames to long filenames, and names the file whose filename is to be long as (C)JPT_xxx where xxx starts from 000 and goes up to 009, then 00a etc etc. Then, when filename information is requested is modifies the data returned by FileCore so all the (C)JPT_ files are changed to their long equivalents. And, of course, it forces the !!!!!!!!Z! file to never be displayed. Unfortunately this way of doing things is a pain when mounting filecore partitions under linux, since a longfilenamed directory's long filenamed files are just (C)JPT_xxx, and so you can't tell what they really are except by either taking a look at the file or by lessing the !!!!!!!!Z! file (if you understand the file format) which is a pain in the neck, since it requires you to escape EVERY ! in the filename, like so: less \!\!\!\!\!\!\!\!Z\! Erk! So best of luck with it Matt - it'll be useful :-) -- Rule of programming #4: The length of time taken to find a bug is directly proportional to its simplicity. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 1 12:46:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA32259 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 12:46:48 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14915 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 12:46:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:5912 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2272-666>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 14:45:53 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971191-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 06:37:08 -0400 Received: from [193.128.238.145] ([193.128.238.145]:3444 "EHLO pat.risccores.co.uk" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970812-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 06:34:40 -0400 Received: by mailhost.risccores.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 12:47:33 +0100 Message-ID: From: matthew To: "'ARM Linux'" Subject: RE: LongFiles support in the ADFS fs Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 12:47:31 +0100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jan Magnussen has just pointed out to me that LongFiles v2 is avaiable, which uses a different '!!!!!Z!' file and the first six chars of the filename, followed by '}' followed by the offset into the 'real' catalog. I'll try and make anything I do both v1 and v2 compatible. If read/write support ever makes it into the ADFS fs, maybe a uADFS module could be written to allow 'newbie' installation to be placed over ADFS? Suggestions? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.3 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNXKUXu6QaKNIbOw9EQJi+QCg64/zH9J5gGO9rDrXIBjVkOsF9CMAn1Kk fhGnMfuZ1isD5H9l6ILNQRM7 =Z/GM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From dooby@BITS.bris.ac.uk Mon Jun 1 13:05:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: from BITS.bris.ac.uk (dooby@bits.bris.ac.uk [137.222.64.1]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA32303 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:05:20 +0100 Received: from localhost (dooby@localhost) by BITS.bris.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA08676; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:06:05 +0100 Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:06:04 +0100 (BST) From: dooby Reply-To: dooby To: Matthew Wilcox cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Ok, gcc works, but my compiler doesn't like compiling kernels... In-Reply-To: <199806011159.MAA32290@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO I'm afraid I have no idea what FDDI devices are - I just let a mate of mine (who is a peecee linux guru) configure it as best we could work out, and set it off. Everything else seems to work reasonably - I can even get X running, but not 256 cols for some reason... modes 28 and 21 just upset it. [dooby, rapidly heading off track] All I wanted was Ether3 support to join our flat network from linux (sob, sob!) cheers, dooby From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 1 13:08:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk (sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk [128.86.8.45]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id NAA32307 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:08:52 +0100 Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk by sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk with UK SMTP (PP); Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:08:47 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA14920 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:02:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:11056 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2159-669>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 15:00:58 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971202-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 06:52:16 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:21035 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971211-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 06:51:30 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id MAA32290; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 12:59:17 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199806011159.MAA32290@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Ok, gcc works, but my compiler doesn't like compiling kernels... To: dooby@BITS.bris.ac.uk (dooby) Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 12:59:16 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "dooby" at Jun 1, 98 09:19:44 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO dooby > > When trying to compile my own 2.0.33 (latest patch IFAIK) I got this :- > > gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -m3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe -c -o arp.o arp.c > In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/fddidevice.h:25, > from arp.c:91: > /usr/src/linux/include/linux/if_fddi.h:69: parse error before `__attribute__' > /usr/src/linux/include/linux/if_fddi.h:78: parse error before `__attribute__' > /usr/src/linux/include/linux/if_fddi.h:89: parse error before `__attribute__' > /usr/src/linux/include/linux/if_fddi.h:103: parse error before `__attribute__' I've never seen this before. Did you include FDDI devices when you were compiling your kernel or something? If not, send the results of grep [ym] /usr/src/linux/.config to the list. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 1 13:22:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA32357 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:22:14 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA14929 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:22:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:9542 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2960-27675>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 15:21:39 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971196-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 07:12:59 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:21081 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970812-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 07:12:48 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id NAA32345; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:20:55 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199806011220.NAA32345@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Ok, gcc works, but my compiler doesn't like compiling kernels... To: dooby@BITS.bris.ac.uk Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:20:55 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "dooby" at Jun 1, 98 01:06:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > I'm afraid I have no idea what FDDI devices are - I just let a mate of > mine (who is a peecee linux guru) configure it as best we could work out, > and set it off. Hmmm. I'd like to see your config. > All I wanted was Ether3 support to join our flat network from linux (sob, > sob!) Can't you just insmod the ether3 driver that matches your kernel? Get the modules package from the ftp site (not modutils..) -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 1 13:35:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA32411 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:35:20 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA14933 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:35:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:4430 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2643-27675>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 15:34:54 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971124-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 07:21:14 -0400 Received: from ccug.wlv.ac.uk ([134.220.1.46]:51056 "EHLO ccug.wlv.ac.uk" ident: "IDENT-NONSENSE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971204-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 07:20:57 -0400 Received: from ccub.wlv.ac.uk ([134.220.1.20]) by ccug.wlv.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.92 #5) id 0ygTi8-0000c7-00; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:29:08 +0100 Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:29:08 +0100 (BST) From: James Turner Reply-To: james@cyberplayce.com To: Phil Norman cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Loadmap and Filecore problems on an A5000 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Tue, 26 May 1998, Phil Norman wrote: > On Tue, 26 May 1998, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > There is a way to hack the bootloader so it automatically assumes what > extra arguments you want it to assume. I did it to mine in the following > manner: > > 1: Ran the bootloader through the debugger and got it to decompress > itself, and then used the *command thing from the debugger's main menu to > *save the now-decompressed !RunImage (*save $.foo 8000 final address in the current wimpslot is> - use the debugger's window to > scroll down to the end if application memory to find this out). > > 2: Load the decompressed !RunImage into your favourite text editor > and clip as much of the end off as you feel safe clipping (most of the > wimpslot you saved will be data or random garbage, which can be safely > removed without changing the way the program runs). In order to avoid all the mucking about described above, you can use Acorn's "Unsqueeze" module to decompress the !RunImage file properly. It can be found hidden inside the !Patch utility included on the hard discs of newer machines (or on the "RISC OS 3 Extras Disc" (or whatever it's called) for older machines). AFAIK it provides a single * command, thus unsqueeze -- _______James Turner - james@cyberplayce.com________ "I need a vacation" - The Terminator ___________________________________________________ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 1 15:46:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA32532 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 15:46:58 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi ([128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14949 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 14:18:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:15728 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2639-23866>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:17:27 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971148-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 08:08:01 -0400 Received: from [193.128.238.145] ([193.128.238.145]:4572 "EHLO pat.risccores.co.uk" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971160-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 08:07:24 -0400 Received: by mailhost.risccores.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 14:20:54 +0100 Message-ID: From: matthew To: "'ARM Linux'" Subject: ssh and pgp Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 14:20:53 +0100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Has anyone ever had either pgp or ssh compile to a working executable? I've used both the src rpm for ssh on Russell's ftp site, and a clean tar.gz file; everything compiles, but the key generation doesn't work. A quick 'make check' in the gmp subdirectory points the finger at the gmp libraries not compiling properly - 14 out of the 15 tests fail. On running ssh to connect to a remote host, once the socket is opened, ssh dumps core. PGP 5.0i - similar story, except pgp dumps core straight away. Is gdb lurking around anywhere? If not, it's a bit of a trek to use nm to find out where everthing is crashing...unless someone knows what I'm doing wrong. I have the latest aout libs and gcc. Matt - -- Matthew Godbolt mailing from work matthew@argonaut.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.3 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNXKqRO6QaKNIbOw9EQLn4ACg0gTyeIwuNOsrFKt2u9uFwgni2oMAn3zD YaK4/J3bhfEZ/eZXyEufJEpl =x4nx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 1 17:06:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA32635 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 17:06:20 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA14978 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 17:06:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:10048 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2584-6117>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 19:05:51 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971092-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 10:56:13 -0400 Received: from cptsg4.univ-mrs.fr ([139.124.7.104]:4868 "HELO cptsg4" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971061-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 10:55:52 -0400 Received: from cptsg4 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cptsg4 (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id SAA23757 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 18:02:27 +0200 Message-ID: <3572D093.167E@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 18:02:27 +0200 From: Vincent PENNE Organization: Centre de Physique Theorique de Marseille X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01S (X11; I; IRIX64 6.2 IP28) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: libdl.a ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I have succesfully compiled Mesa (which provides OpenGL support), then I wanted to try a 3D modeler using it. Unfortunatly, it uses dynamic libraries loading (for plug-ins). If found libdl.so.something in /lib and dlfctl.h (where dlopen and company are declared) in /usr/include so it should have worked, however, when linking, the functions dlopen and so on seems to be missing ... Are they implemented under arm-linux ? Should be there a libdl.a or something like that somewhere ? Vincent. -- /==========================================================\ | Vincent PENNE, Centre de Physique Theorique | |Tel. (0033)4 91 26 95 04 CNRS - LUMINY - Case 907 | |Fax. (0033)4 91 26 95 53 F-13288 MARSEILLE CEDEX 9 | |Email: penne@cpt.univ-mrs.fr FRANCE | |http://www.cpt.univ-mrs.fr | \==========================================================/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 1 17:29:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA32664 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 17:29:32 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA14982 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 17:29:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:34896 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2452-30456>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 19:29:22 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971110-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 11:19:19 -0400 Received: from odin.waw.com ([194.51.88.249]:25147 "EHLO odin.waw.com" ident: "vincent") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971094-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 11:19:09 -0400 Received: from localhost (vincent@localhost) by odin.waw.com (8.8.7/8.8.7/waw) with SMTP id SAA16886; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 18:30:21 +0200 Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 18:30:21 +0200 (GMT+0200) From: Vincent Renardias To: Vincent PENNE cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: libdl.a ? In-Reply-To: <3572D093.167E@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Mon, 1 Jun 1998, Vincent PENNE wrote: > I have succesfully compiled Mesa (which provides OpenGL support), then I > wanted to try a 3D modeler using it. Unfortunatly, it uses dynamic > libraries loading (for plug-ins). If found libdl.so.something in /lib > and dlfctl.h (where dlopen and company are declared) in /usr/include so > it should have worked, however, when linking, the functions dlopen and > so on seems to be missing ... Are they implemented under arm-linux ? > Should be there a libdl.a or something like that somewhere ? Try to run 'nm -D /lib/libdl.so.x' to see if dlopen is really there? -- - Vincent RENARDIAS vincent@{waw.com,pipo.com,debian.org} - - Debian/GNU Linux: Pipo: WAW: - - http://www.fr.debian.org http://www.pipo.com http://www.waw.com - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - "La fonctionnalite Son Visuel vous delivre des avertissements visuels." - - [Message durant l'installation de Windows95]:wq unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 1 19:34:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA00145 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 19:34:58 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA14996 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 19:35:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:63346 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10616-30341>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 20:08:59 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971068-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 11:57:22 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:27777 "HELO globe" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971146-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 11:51:41 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ygXkZ-0004N1-00; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 17:47:55 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ygXkY-00021W-00; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 17:47:54 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: glibc-2.1 snapshot available Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 17:47:54 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, I've made available a snapshot of the glibc-2.1 development tree for people to test on ARM systems. You need to get glibc-2.0.94.tar.gz (plus the linuxthreads and crypt add-ons) from your local GNU mirror, and then the patch from http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/phil/armlinux/patches/glibc-2.0.94-arm-diff-980601.gz This should build for the configurations arm-linux (Linux/ARM with ELF), arm-linuxaout (Linux/ARM with a.out) and arm-none (ARM standalone with a.out) provided you have appropriate tools installed. For the arm-none target you will need to use `--enable-hacker-mode'. For the arm-linuxaout target you will need to use `--enable-static-nss'. It's possible to compile the library both natively and using a cross-compiler. The latter is fairly straightforward but you may need to use an explicit `--build=' option when configuring. If building natively on an a.out system you will probably need to explicitly specify the host as `arm-linuxaout'. You need a somewhat recent version of gcc and binutils to compile this. Binutils 2.9.1.0.4 should work out of the box and you can download it from the usual place. Either gcc 2.8.1 or a recent egcs should work but you need a small patch that I've appended to this mail to make weak symbols work correctly. For ELF you need an even newer toolset; I hope to make a public beta release of this soon. Please report success or failure to me. Since this is a snapshot, please do NOT send bug reports to the bug-glibc address. Both 2.0 and 2.1 kernels should work but I've only been able to lightly test 2.1 owing to the lack of a working floating-point emulator. If anybody would like to help with development of glibc for the ARM, please get in touch. In particular, optimised versions of many functions need to be written for the ARM. More people to help with testing on different systems are also always welcome. p. --- gcc/config/arm/linux-gas.h Fri Dec 5 12:13:45 1997 +++ gcc/config/arm/linux-gas.h Mon Jun 1 09:47:20 1998 @@ -32,3 +31,13 @@ #ifndef DBX_DEBUGGING_INFO #define DBX_DEBUGGING_INFO 1 #endif + +/* + * This is how we tell the assembler that a symbol is weak. GAS always + * supports weak symbols, even for a.out. + */ + +#define ASM_WEAKEN_LABEL(FILE,NAME) \ + do { fputs ("\t.weak\t", FILE); assemble_name (FILE, NAME); \ + fputc ('\n', FILE); } while (0) + unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 1 19:35:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA00149 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 19:35:02 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA14999 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 19:35:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:63346 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10771-30341>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 20:09:21 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971092-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 11:57:30 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:27833 "HELO globe" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971164-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 11:51:54 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ygXrd-0004NK-00; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 17:55:13 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ygXrc-000220-00; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 17:55:12 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: last mail Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 17:55:11 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I just realised that the current glibc won't in fact compile successfully for ELF since there are still some missing pieces. Sorry. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 1 19:35:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA00152 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 19:35:03 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA15002 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 19:35:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:61969 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10877-30341>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 20:38:09 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971112-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 12:28:18 -0400 Received: from [195.152.9.20] ([195.152.9.20]:3156 "EHLO gateway.copymaster.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971134-11595>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 12:28:05 -0400 Received: from klmc ([158.152.71.143]) by gateway.copymaster.co.uk (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-45194U100L2S100) with SMTP id AAB280 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 18:25:36 +0000 Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 17:50:10 +0100 From: tlawton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Random NFAQs Message-ID: Reply-To: tlawton@on134th.com X-Organization: Home X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40a for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60l X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Can anyone tell me what is "net-pf-5" and why every time I boot up I am told it can't be found. The system works fine so I guess it's not vital. Does the "strip" command remove debugging information from a binary and therefore decrease its size? Can anyone supply the mknod numbers for using hde and hdf. Before the messing around with my system I've done, they were working but now only hda is mentioned when the kernel boots up, and in the /dev/ directory there is only up to hdd. Thanks, Tom -- .... "The body is given out on loan - don't waste it and expect to use it tomorrow." - Shapiro unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 1 20:03:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA00169 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 20:03:56 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA15010 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 20:04:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:16914 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2565-30341>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 22:03:52 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971228-25900>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:43:50 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:43652 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971286-25900>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:37:52 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2026919; 1 Jun 98 18:37 GMT Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0ygYbh-0007Bg-00; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 18:42:49 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Vincent PENNE cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: libdl.a ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 Jun 1998 18:02:27 +0200." <3572D093.167E@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 18:42:49 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >I have succesfully compiled Mesa (which provides OpenGL support), then I >wanted to try a 3D modeler using it. Unfortunatly, it uses dynamic >libraries loading (for plug-ins). If found libdl.so.something in /lib >and dlfctl.h (where dlopen and company are declared) in /usr/include so >it should have worked, however, when linking, the functions dlopen and >so on seems to be missing ... Are they implemented under arm-linux ? >Should be there a libdl.a or something like that somewhere ? They're certainly not implemented in glibc at the moment for a.out, though they are for ELF. If anybody would like to contribute an implementation of dynamic linking for a.out (the libc4 one would be a starting point) this would obviously be welcome. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 1 20:49:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA00211 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 20:49:44 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA15030 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 20:49:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:45904 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2049-30341>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 22:49:29 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971024-25900>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 14:39:19 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:33462 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970912-25900>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 14:38:53 -0400 Received: from (kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) [158.152.220.239] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0ygZTT-0003Dg-00; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 19:38:23 +0100 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0ygYmi-0007FH-00; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 18:54:12 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: tlawton@on134th.com cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Random NFAQs In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 Jun 1998 17:50:10 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 18:54:12 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > Can anyone tell me what is "net-pf-5" and why every time I boot up I am told >it can't be found. The system works fine so I guess it's not vital. Just ignore it. It's actually Appletalk; what happens is that ifconfig goes to find out whether this protocol is available, and this causes kerneld to try to load it. You can put something like `alias net-pf-5 off' in your /etc/modules.conf to stop the messages. > Does the "strip" command remove debugging information from a binary and >therefore decrease its size? Yes. > Can anyone supply the mknod numbers for using hde and hdf. Before the >messing around with my system I've done, they were working but now only hda >is mentioned when the kernel boots up, and in the /dev/ directory there is >only up to hdd. Do you really have that many disks? hde is 33,0 and hdf is 33,64. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 2 02:37:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA00556 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 02:37:08 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15095 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 02:37:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:31592 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11035-31166>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 04:37:10 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971229-25900>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 20:26:06 -0400 Received: from [210.154.37.2] ([210.154.37.2]:12820 "EHLO ns.funai-tky.co.jp" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971223-25900>; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 20:25:54 -0400 Received: from hiropu.funai-tky.co.jp ([192.168.1.19] (may be forged)) by ns.funai-tky.co.jp (8.8.6/3.4W4-FUNAI-TKY-970730) with SMTP id KAA00293 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 10:36:20 +0900 Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 10:38:34 +0900 From: hiroshi ishii To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: angel source(about brutus board) Message-Id: <3573579A28.2E98HIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.24 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO To Dave Rusling I got Deborah Wallach's brutus Linux source. That's source include "angel.srec". It includes motorola S-recode file only. Not include angel source. It seems to be Ver. 1.00's angel. Latest angel is Ver. 1.02. Why do you use latest version? And, if you excuse me, please give me your angel's source(for brutus Linux). Regards; ------------- Funai Electric Engineering Co.,LTD Hiroshi Ishii e-mail address : hiroshi@funai-tky.co.jp unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 2 09:44:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA01032 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:44:48 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15195 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:45:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:39688 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2706-22190>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:44:45 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971242-25900>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 03:32:32 -0400 Received: from hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.16.101]:34715 "HELO hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970796-25900>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 03:32:15 -0400 Received: from lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk by hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk with SMTP-GLA (MMTA) with ESMTP; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:43:49 +0100 Received: from localhost (9606585c@localhost) by lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk (8.8.4/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA29001; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:43:44 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:43:43 +0100 (BST) From: James Craig <9606585c@udcf.gla.ac.uk> X-Sender: 9606585c@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk To: tlawton cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Random NFAQs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Mon, 1 Jun 1998, tlawton wrote: > > Can anyone tell me what is "net-pf-5" and why every time I boot up I am told > it can't be found. The system works fine so I guess it's not vital. Appletalk support or IPX support (net-pf-5 and net-pf-4 - I can't remember which is which, and 99% of the time, it doesn't matter) > > Does the "strip" command remove debugging information from a binary and > therefore decrease its size? Yes. > Can anyone supply the mknod numbers for using hde and hdf. Before the > messing around with my system I've done, they were working but now only hda > is mentioned when the kernel boots up, and in the /dev/ directory there is > only up to hdd. Try using the MAKEDEV script in /dev/ - It knows how to create them. > Thanks, > > Tom -- James Craig <9606585c@udcf.gla.ac.uk> unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 2 10:17:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA01048 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 10:17:34 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15200 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 10:17:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:56341 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2484-22190>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:15:29 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971251-25900>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 04:03:03 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:33991 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971247-25900>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 04:02:25 -0400 Received: from mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02063 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:13:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from aixterm4.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixterm4.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.44]) by mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA44078 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:13:51 +0200 Received: (from shanske@localhost) by aixterm4.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id LAA31878; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:13:50 +0200 (METDST) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:13:50 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixterm4.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu cc: Linux Mailing List Subject: Re: Linux keeps having Internal errors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Thu, 28 May 1998, Chris Pringle wrote: > I get about 50. They pass to quick to read but the last line says : > code : pc not in code space > When it eventually boots and gives me a login prompt, I can type root and my > password and then I get an internal error and it takes me back to the login This seems to be a problem with the fpem version you're using. When installing, the installer normally set's a link to the correct fpem version for your system. Sometimes, however, it seems to do wrong. Find a way to set the link for fpem.o in /lib/modules to fpem-2.87 for an A5000. ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 2 11:22:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA01121 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:22:33 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15205 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:22:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:13136 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2552-22190>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:22:38 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970841-25900>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 05:10:28 -0400 Received: from cptsg4.univ-mrs.fr ([139.124.7.104]:10664 "HELO cptsg4" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970796-25900>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 05:10:15 -0400 Received: from cptsg4 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cptsg4 (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id MAA27572 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:19:25 +0200 Message-ID: <3573D1AD.794B@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 12:19:25 +0200 From: Vincent PENNE Organization: Centre de Physique Theorique de Marseille X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01S (X11; I; IRIX64 6.2 IP28) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: ghostscript and ghostview under X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Does anyone can use ghostscript under X without crashing ? For me it crashes at once when I run it ... It gives the same result with the precompiled version in the distribution and one that I compiled myself .... Might there be a problem in the X libraries ? Are there several version of the X libraries ? -- /==========================================================\ | Vincent PENNE, Centre de Physique Theorique | |Tel. (0033)4 91 26 95 04 CNRS - LUMINY - Case 907 | |Fax. (0033)4 91 26 95 53 F-13288 MARSEILLE CEDEX 9 | |Email: penne@cpt.univ-mrs.fr FRANCE | |http://www.cpt.univ-mrs.fr | \==========================================================/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 2 11:28:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA01138 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:28:18 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15209 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:28:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:13136 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2666-22190>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:28:00 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970891-25900>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 05:15:50 -0400 Received: from cptsg4.univ-mrs.fr ([139.124.7.104]:10666 "HELO cptsg4" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970915-25900>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 05:15:29 -0400 Received: from cptsg4 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cptsg4 (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id MAA27542; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:13:00 +0200 Message-ID: <3573D02C.2781@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 12:13:00 +0200 From: Vincent PENNE Organization: Centre de Physique Theorique de Marseille X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01S (X11; I; IRIX64 6.2 IP28) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stefan Hanske CC: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Linux keeps having Internal errors References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > On Thu, 28 May 1998, Chris Pringle wrote: > > > I get about 50. They pass to quick to read but the last line says : > > code : pc not in code space > > When it eventually boots and gives me a login prompt, I can type root and my > > password and then I get an internal error and it takes me back to the login There is an option in the kernel (when you configure it before you compile it) which selects weither it will check version of modules or not (something like that), if you don't turn it in the proper way, then the kernel will refuse to load the fp emulator module, whathever version it is. At least, this happened to me and I had to recompile the kernel with the proper option ... My RiscPC is at home, so can't tell you the exact name of the option, however, it is one of the first ... Vincent. /==========================================================\ | Vincent PENNE, Centre de Physique Theorique | |Tel. (0033)4 91 26 95 04 CNRS - LUMINY - Case 907 | |Fax. (0033)4 91 26 95 53 F-13288 MARSEILLE CEDEX 9 | |Email: penne@cpt.univ-mrs.fr FRANCE | |http://www.cpt.univ-mrs.fr | \==========================================================/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 2 11:50:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA01180 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:50:16 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15216 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:50:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14176 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2571-22190>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:50:22 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970801-25900>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 05:37:25 -0400 Received: from alpha.Xerox.COM ([13.1.64.93]:4681 "HELO alpha.xerox.com" ident: "firewall-user") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970796-25900>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 05:37:20 -0400 Received: from toaster.parc.xerox.com ([13.1.102.43]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <56167(1)>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 03:49:05 PDT Received: from toaster.parc.xerox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by toaster.parc.xerox.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA15375 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 03:49:02 -0700 Message-Id: <199806021049.DAA15375@toaster.parc.xerox.com> Reply-To: stewart@parc.xerox.com To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: EBSA-285 adventures Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 03:49:01 PDT From: Paul Stewart X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO First of all, I'd like to thank Russell King, Dave Gilbert, Philip Blundell, Linus, the Itsy team and all the other Linux and ARM-Linux developers for their artifacts allowing me to get this far with only web searches and an FTP here or there. I continue to marvel at the incredible dedication and attention to detail that has cultivated this work. That said, I've got a quasi-success report, for those who may not have been able to piece together the entire procedure for cross- compiling for the EBSA-285, and then a slightly off- topic question that I hope others who work with this sort of hardware may be able to shed light on. My goal is to get an EBSA-285 up and running linux. I had on hand the Digital EBSA-285 eval board, the 5-volt passive backplane, a 22140A-based ethernet card, and for development purposes a i586 linux box. To get any real support, I quickly realized from summaries of diffs and reading the config code for 2.0.33 that a 2.1.xx(x) kernel would be critical, since it seemed that the real watershed for EBSA-285 support came in the experimental branch of the kernel. My first attempt at compiling such a kernel came with picking up the latest of everything: Linux 2.1.103, the latest snapshot of binutils (2.9.1.0.4) and egcs snapshot 19980531, all of relatively recent vintage. This approach, of course was met with failure, first because the lack of ELF support in egcs. The 2.1 kernels require ELF support in many crucial places. After a little hunting I found diffs to gcc 2.7.2.2 on Russell's exceedingly helpful ftp site, ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/tools/. It was a little hard to find, since the patches that were highlighted in the webpages and READMEs were for the ARM/a.out variety, which is probably more useful to the folks building on 2.0 systems, and moreover it appears that even on the 2.1 kernels, the a.out format is still the defacto application binary format. My attempt at using gcc-2.7.2.2 with binutils 2.9.1.0.4 looked promising... all the way up until the final link stage where I got nasty looking messages about overflows in relocation. I took this as a sign that I should have just taken the "binutils-2.8-elf" diff also on Russell's site and used that. There was an ever-so- slight version skew between the two. gcc-2.7.2.2 seemed to have a problem reminiscent of a warning on Russell's Tool page: while compiling in the 3Com directory, I got failure messages from the assembler complaining that "Processor does not support halfwords or signed bytes" from gas/config/tc-arm.c. I considered two things to be wrong with this: Firstly, the compiler failed to suppress StrongARM instructions. I was prepared to forgive this, especially since the EBSA-285 is a StrongARM-based processor. It was still a bug, but not one I was prepared to tackle just then. The second issue was that since I was on a StrongARM, I'd actually like to pass that code on to the assembler and have it take advantage of those instructions. Towards this purpose, I modified gcc to support a "-msa110", which worked just like the (perhaps broken) "-m6" argument, except it passed the "-msa110" down to the binutils-2.8 assembler, which did accept this flag. I think modified arch/arm/Makefile to have a check for CONFIG_CPU_SA110 in the non-"CONFIG_BINUTILS_NEW" branch of CONFIG_CPU_32. The last of the patches that I applied should have been made at the very beginning: I'd assumed that by 2.1.103, that the kernel had been made mostly ARM-friendly, and a patch of the magnitude of the earlier ones for 2.0.33 and 2.1.99 which I had picked up before. To my surprise there were 72k lines of modifications, covering many of the issues I'd found in my first passes at a compile and addressing quite a few more issues I'd expected to run into on the horizon, like a VGA console. A great big "attaboy" goes out to Russell and whoever else made it possible for me not to think about what exactly KSTK_ESP() was and what to set it to for ARM architectures. The only configuration option that gave me trouble was "CONFIG_FB", which when enabled, started a compile in arch/arm/drivers/char1. I'm not sure what the semantic significance of "CONFIG_FB" is, but it would appear that I do not need it, since the arch/arm/drivers/char path seems to have what I want and compiles cleanly with CONFIG_FB turned off. So, to summarize, here's how I got a vmunix for my EBSA-285: * Acquire gcc-2.7.2.2, binutils-2.8, from ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu, and linux-2.1.103 from ftp.linux.org * Acquire and apply patches to all of these from the ones provided on ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/ * (Optionally?) modify this patched gcc to invoke the StrongARM assembly personality in GAS. * Configure and compile the development tools. I guess arm-unknown-linuxelf will work in most places. I started using arm-unknown-elf, and had to modify a few config scripts to maintain that nomenclature. Don't forget to rename the binutils-generated filenames in your $prefix/bin/ dir as Dave Gilbert's instructive post to this list pointed out (speaking of which, where would be the best place to keep this post archived? There are web pages that reference this post) -- you'll need all the tools to have the same root name when you supply the CROSS_COMPILE line to the Linux Makefile. * Configure and compile linux. All done (we hope) So what's my problem? Actually getting this kernel into the EBSA-285. Angelboot would appear to be the right answer, available both from Causality (http://www.causality.com/) and in modified form as a part of the Linux-on-brutus distribution at http://www.research.digital.com/wrl/people/kerr/linux-brutus.html. The problem I'm having is that the EBSA seems entirely unresponsive in the angel debug protocol. Configuring it without an ethernet card plugged in and attached only via serial, it prints out the version banner on bootup, and is completely silent and does not respond to angelboot's packets. When an 21140A card is plugged in, it emits no traffic whatsoever, although from the status lights on the card, it's apparent that the EBSA has initialized the PHY. Has anyone seen this behavior before? Running the self-test flash image returns successful results (including echoing back characters sent to the serial port), so if this is a hardware problem, it is a strange one. Writing the "angel2" ROM image into the flash via the PCI bus was successful, but this image exhibits the same behavior, after outputting a slightly different version banner. Anyway, I'd like to thank all the folks who have gotten me here so far, by the mere virtue of publishing their artifacts. I hope that my relatively large "ObArmLinux" has bought me at least a little credit for a arm-hardware question. -- Paul unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 2 12:10:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA01258 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:10:37 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15229 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:10:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:58465 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2778-22190>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:10:36 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970845-25900>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 05:58:19 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:27374 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970801-25900>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 05:58:05 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (MAA09244); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:09:26 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:09:26 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: Vincent PENNE cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ghostscript and ghostview under X In-Reply-To: <3573D1AD.794B@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, Vincent PENNE wrote: > Does anyone can use ghostscript under X without crashing ? For me it > crashes at once when I run it ... It gives the same result with the > precompiled version in the distribution and one that I compiled myself > ... Might there be a problem in the X libraries ? Are there several > version of the X libraries ? I'm having a similar problem. I remember when I tried setting up ..xinitrc ages ago I used GhostView to see what the arguments to xv were (to put a piccy on the backdrop) and it worked fine, but after my reinstall (about the 10th time I've reinstalled armlinux - I'm getting good at it now) GhostView stopped working - it comes up with an error 'Error while formatting page' or some such. So I had to work out the arguments myself by trial and error :-(. Also, I tried fiddling with xpaint this morning (I was bored) and I noticed I can't type anything into the dialogue box which pops up when you click on the item off the File menu which creates a new canvas with given dimensions. Bye for now, Phil -- Rule of programming #3: The number of bugs which exist in a program is approximately equal to the square of the number of bugs which you think exist. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 2 12:14:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA01262 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:14:04 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15233 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:14:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:5226 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2380-31166>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:14:00 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970841-25900>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 06:01:14 -0400 Received: from man01.cogency.co.uk ([195.153.128.51]:33972 "HELO mailhost.cogency.co.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970845-25900>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 06:01:02 -0400 Received: from cogency.co.uk by mailhost.cogency.co.uk (SMI-8.6/PIPEX simple 1.27) id MAA02445; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:13:53 +0100 Message-ID: <3573DE49.59B6BBEE@cogency.co.uk> Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 12:13:13 +0100 From: David Alan Gilbert Organization: Cogency Technology Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stewart@parc.xerox.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: EBSA-285 adventures References: <199806021049.DAA15375@toaster.parc.xerox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi Stewart, Some points you might like to consider: 1) I used a patched EGCS version of the compiler; like GCC 2.8.x if you tell it to use StrongARM instructions it sometimes generates erroneous halfword loads; so I tell it to compile for ARM6. 2) The patches as of a few days ago didn't allow swapping to work on the 285 - its getting better; it should be fixed now-ish. 3) I have a TFTP booter for that ether card; (Its Russ's 3com TFTP booter with some patches). I'll try and remember to bring it in - although I still use Angel to load it. (Take your serial rates down to something like 19200 and see if you still have hastles). 4) Most of the Linux PCI drivers presume consistency between the PCI view of memory and the CPU view of memory with cache snooping hardware to ensure this. The 285 doesn't have any hardware like that. This problem affects the 21040 (tulip) ether driver. At the moment the only fix for this is turn off the data cache and write buffer - I have a two line patch for that I can send you. Phil is working on some more general soloutions to this problem. 5) You probably don't have a working floating point emulator for that kernel version. 6) (Noting 4) The Ncr53c8xx SCSI drivers seem to work with very little work. Dave -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Dr. David Alan Gilbert - WARNING! This is a beta release .signature- - Work: dg @ cogency.co.uk - +44-(0)161-428-9444 - - Home: gro.gilbert @ treblig.org - - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 2 13:07:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA01606 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:06:58 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15242 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:07:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:18448 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2899-5036>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:06:57 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970867-25900>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 06:54:36 -0400 Received: from [193.128.238.145] ([193.128.238.145]:1772 "EHLO pat.risccores.co.uk" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970810-25900>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 06:54:16 -0400 Received: by mailhost.risccores.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:11:12 +0100 Message-ID: From: matthew To: "'ARM Linux'" Subject: RE: ghostscript and ghostview under X Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:11:11 +0100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > ---------- > From: Phil Norman[SMTP:P.C.F.Norman@exeter.ac.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 1998 12:09 PM > To: Vincent PENNE > Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu > Subject: Re: ghostscript and ghostview under X > [snip various X problems] > Also, I tried fiddling with xpaint this morning (I was bored) and I > noticed I can't type anything into the dialogue box which pops up when > > you click on the item off the File menu which creates a new canvas > with > given dimensions. > > I've noticed this on both Chimera, and any tcl/tk programs I've tried. Solutions, anyone? unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 2 13:16:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA01621 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:16:20 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15246 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:16:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:7188 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2707-5036>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:16:26 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970867-25900>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 07:04:07 -0400 Received: from cptsg4.univ-mrs.fr ([139.124.7.104]:11390 "HELO cptsg4" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970841-25900>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 07:03:50 -0400 Received: from cptsg4 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cptsg4 (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA28087 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:13:02 +0200 Message-ID: <3573EC4E.59E2@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 14:13:02 +0200 From: Vincent PENNE Organization: Centre de Physique Theorique de Marseille X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01S (X11; I; IRIX64 6.2 IP28) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: GDB? libdl.so References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Philip Blundell wrote: > > > Is GDB ported on arm-linux ? > > I think Russell has a version of GDB for arm-linuxaout, yes. An ELF one also > exists. > > p. I am not the first one to ask about GDB, but I've never seen any clear answer. Are there any version of GDB ported on arm-linux ? If yes, why aren't they available ? Vincent. -- /==========================================================\ | Vincent PENNE, Centre de Physique Theorique | |Tel. (0033)4 91 26 95 04 CNRS - LUMINY - Case 907 | |Fax. (0033)4 91 26 95 53 F-13288 MARSEILLE CEDEX 9 | |Email: penne@cpt.univ-mrs.fr FRANCE | |http://www.cpt.univ-mrs.fr | \==========================================================/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 2 13:42:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA01677 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:42:12 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15252 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:42:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:25884 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT2") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2932-31166>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:42:11 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970864-25900>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 07:18:29 -0400 Received: from cptsg4.univ-mrs.fr ([139.124.7.104]:11474 "HELO cptsg4" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971022-25900>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 07:17:25 -0400 Received: from cptsg4 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cptsg4 (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA28140; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:26:45 +0200 Message-ID: <3573EF85.3F54@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 14:26:45 +0200 From: Vincent PENNE Organization: Centre de Physique Theorique de Marseille X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01S (X11; I; IRIX64 6.2 IP28) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: matthew CC: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ghostscript and ghostview under X References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO matthew wrote: > > > Also, I tried fiddling with xpaint this morning (I was bored) and I > > noticed I can't type anything into the dialogue box which pops up when > > > > you click on the item off the File menu which creates a new canvas > > with > > given dimensions. > > > > > I've noticed this on both Chimera, and any tcl/tk programs I've tried. > Solutions, anyone? > > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu I agree about chimera, but tcl/tk works fine for me ! Strange isn't it?? Vincent. -- /==========================================================\ | Vincent PENNE, Centre de Physique Theorique | |Tel. (0033)4 91 26 95 04 CNRS - LUMINY - Case 907 | |Fax. (0033)4 91 26 95 53 F-13288 MARSEILLE CEDEX 9 | |Email: penne@cpt.univ-mrs.fr FRANCE | |http://www.cpt.univ-mrs.fr | \==========================================================/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 2 13:51:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA01683 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:51:28 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15258 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:51:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:65359 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2131-5036>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:47:16 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970841-25900>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 07:26:18 -0400 Received: from [193.128.238.145] ([193.128.238.145]:2008 "EHLO pat.risccores.co.uk" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971123-25900>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 07:21:50 -0400 Received: by mailhost.risccores.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:38:47 +0100 Message-ID: From: matthew To: "'ARM Linux'" Subject: RE: ghostscript and ghostview under X Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:38:47 +0100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > ---------- > From: Vincent PENNE[SMTP:penne@cptsu5.univ-mrs.fr] > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 1998 1:26 PM > To: matthew > Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu > Subject: Re: ghostscript and ghostview under X > > matthew wrote: > > > > > Also, I tried fiddling with xpaint this morning (I was bored) and > I > > > noticed I can't type anything into the dialogue box which pops up > when > > > > > > you click on the item off the File menu which creates a new canvas > > > with > > > given dimensions. > > > > > > > > I've noticed this on both Chimera, and any tcl/tk programs I've > tried. > > Solutions, anyone? > > > > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to > majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu > > I agree about chimera, but tcl/tk works fine for me ! Strange isn't > it?? > Vincent. > Bizarre - I tried a TCL/TK Mud client, which runs perfectly but ignores any clicking or typing... > -- > /==========================================================\ > | Vincent PENNE, Centre de Physique Theorique | > |Tel. (0033)4 91 26 95 04 CNRS - LUMINY - Case 907 | > |Fax. (0033)4 91 26 95 53 F-13288 MARSEILLE CEDEX 9 | > |Email: penne@cpt.univ-mrs.fr FRANCE | > |http://www.cpt.univ-mrs.fr | > \==========================================================/ > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 2 14:29:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA01724 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:29:21 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15267 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:29:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:26120 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2660-22190>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 16:29:20 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970936-25900>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 08:16:53 -0400 Received: from teapot23.bigpond.com ([139.134.5.165]:1560 "HELO teapot23.domain2.bigpond.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970963-25900>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 08:15:13 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by teapot23.domain2.bigpond.com (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id va224531 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 23:25:56 +1100 Received: from BN-A07-pool-32.tmns.net.au ([139.134.43.32]) by mail.bigpond.com (Claudes-Self-Aware-MailRouter V1.2c); 02 Jun 1998 23:25:55 Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 22:41:17 +0000 From: Dan Todd To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: X and KDE packages Message-ID: <5f3d1b5048%dantodd@dantodd.bigpond.com> Organization: The House of Dan X-Mailer: Messenger v1.34c for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60l X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I know a question similar to this has been asked before, but I couldn't find any answers. Has anyone made X or KDE binaries available? Is there a FAQ or HOWTO descibing how to get things working ok with the sources rpms, as I'm idiot who's new to Linux. Thanks in advance. -- Dan Todd unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 2 15:39:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA01947 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:39:40 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA15288 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:39:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:27652 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2934-28079>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 17:39:47 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971029-25900>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:25:34 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:30883 "HELO globe" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971072-25900>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:23:46 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ygrwF-0005Kn-00; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:21:19 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ygrwD-0001rj-00; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:21:17 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Vincent PENNE cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: GDB? libdl.so In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 Jun 1998 14:13:02 +0200." <3573EC4E.59E2@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 15:21:16 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >I am not the first one to ask about GDB, but I've never seen any clear >answer. Are there any version of GDB ported on arm-linux ? If yes, why >aren't they available ? An ELF version exists and I will make it available with the rest of the ELF toolset soon. For the a.out one you should ask Russell since as far as I know he's the only person who has it. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 2 16:28:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA02145 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 16:28:04 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA15297 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 16:28:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:39795 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11042-5036>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 18:24:36 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971134-25900>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 10:10:56 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:11484 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971091-25900>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 10:10:22 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (QAA19792); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 16:22:27 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 16:22:27 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: ARM Linux Subject: Acorn South-East Show Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi! About a week ago I managed to get myself volunteered for doing an armlinux stand at the Acorn South-East Show (in Stevenage, 27th June). I'm quite looking forward to doing it, but I currently have one major problem. Matthew Wilcox has said he might be able to make it, but unfortunately can't give a definate answer right at the moment. Since the show is starting to loom (less than a month away) I thought it prudent to see if there were any other people with transport about. I don't drive and so it'd be virtually impossible for me to transport myself and a computer+monitor to the show. If MW can get to the show, he has a car so things will be fine, but if he can't is there anyone out there who will be (or might be persuaded to) going to the show and will be able to pick me+computers up from Morden (the Southern-most end of the Northern Line, London)? Please please please please!!!!! Thanks in advance, Phil -- Linux: A penguin which jumps through Windows and leaps over Gates. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 2 20:56:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA02870 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:56:43 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA15328 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:57:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:49484 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10600-24476>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 22:56:57 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970845-31949>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:43:36 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1388 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970864-31949>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:43:11 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup2.cymru.net [163.164.160.66]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA07026; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:55:47 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA27977; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:54:03 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00894; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:54:27 +0100 Message-Id: <199806021954.UAA00894@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: X and KDE packages To: dantodd@bigpond.com (Dan Todd) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:54:26 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <5f3d1b5048%dantodd@dantodd.bigpond.com> from "Dan Todd" at Jun 2, 98 10:41:17 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Dan Todd writes: > Has anyone made X or KDE binaries available? Is there a FAQ or HOWTO > descibing how to get things working ok with the sources rpms, as I'm > idiot who's new to Linux. I don't have KDE running (I haven't tried compiling it either). I'm working on a later version of X at the moment... _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 2 20:56:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA02868 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:56:41 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA15325 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:57:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:49484 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10294-4908>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 22:56:47 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970862-31949>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:43:33 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1398 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970845-31949>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:43:13 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup2.cymru.net [163.164.160.66]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA07038; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:55:59 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA27961; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:49:04 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00870; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:49:28 +0100 Message-Id: <199806021949.UAA00870@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: ghostscript and ghostview under X To: matthew@argonaut.com (matthew) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:49:27 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "matthew" at Jun 2, 98 01:38:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO matthew writes: > > > > Also, I tried fiddling with xpaint this morning (I was bored) and I > > > > noticed I can't type anything into the dialogue box which pops up when > > > > you click on the item off the File menu which creates a new canvas > > > > with given dimensions. > > > I've noticed this on both Chimera, and any tcl/tk programs I've tried. > > > Solutions, anyone? > > I agree about chimera, but tcl/tk works fine for me ! Strange isn't > > it?? > Bizarre - I tried a TCL/TK Mud client, which runs perfectly but ignores > any clicking or typing... I'm not certain about this, but there may be a way of 'frigging' it. I'm going to be compiling up new X libraries soon, so I should know the answer. I do seem to remember having some problems with this, which I solved by putting: *input: true in my .Xdefaults (or .Xresources) file. This then worked properly. Maybe someone could try out a client running under ARM Linux without this line but displayed on another X server and mail me the results. This should then point the finger squarely at either the client or the server. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 2 21:02:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk (sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk [128.86.8.45]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id VAA02918 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 21:02:28 +0100 Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk by sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk with UK SMTP (PP); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 21:02:37 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA15331 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:57:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:49484 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10279-4908>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 22:57:17 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970869-31949>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:43:38 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1410 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970868-31949>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:43:16 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup2.cymru.net [163.164.160.66]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA07032; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:55:53 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA27968; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:51:38 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00883; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:52:02 +0100 Message-Id: <199806021952.UAA00883@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: GDB? libdl.so To: penne@cptsu5.univ-mrs.fr (Vincent PENNE) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:52:01 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <3573EC4E.59E2@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> from "Vincent PENNE" at Jun 2, 98 02:13:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Vincent PENNE writes: > > > Is GDB ported on arm-linux ? > > I think Russell has a version of GDB for arm-linuxaout, yes. An ELF one also > > exists. > I am not the first one to ask about GDB, but I've never seen any clear > answer. Are there any version of GDB ported on arm-linux ? If yes, why > aren't they available ? The problem is that I can't give GDB away as is, and the version I have is quite old. My gdb only works on A5000 core dump files and running processes on either architecture, so I don't see any point in releasing the binary (it'll create more problems than solutions). It would be better for someone else to port it, then send me the patches against an RPM, and then it'll become part of the distribution. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 2 21:57:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA03186 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 21:57:51 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA15339 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 21:58:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:57652 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10928-23582>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 23:58:01 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970873-31949>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:44:24 -0400 Received: from fw1.mmsi.com ([209.75.132.66]:60695 "EHLO mmsi.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970872-31949>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:44:11 -0400 Received: from modular-2 by mmsi.com (8.8.5/SMI-4.1) id NAA05463; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:57:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from toontown.mmsi.com by modular-2 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27004; Tue, 2 Jun 98 13:56:56 MST Received: by toontown.mmsi.com (8.8.5/SMI-4.1) id NAA32577; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:56:56 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:56:56 -0700 Message-Id: <199806022056.NAA32577@toontown.mmsi.com> From: Jon Olson To: linux@arm.uk.linux.org Cc: penne@cptsu5.univ-mrs.fr, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199806021952.UAA00883@raistlin.armlinux.org> (message from Russell King - ARM Linux Admin on Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:52:01 +0100 (BST)) Subject: Re: GDB? libdl.so X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Actually, I tried building gdb-4.17 last week for the ARM. Ran into two problems, though: 1) The PTRACE interface seems to be missing the ability to read the user structure via PTRACE_PEEKUSR. At least I couldn't find this defined in the header files. Does anybody know the status of ptrace() under arm-linux. 2) Building the entire release with `gdbtk' really wants ELF and dynamic linking available. I'd really like to get an ELF distribution, but I'm missing several pieces like a working `crt1.o'. Anybody know the status of ELF linux for ARM? Is anybody working on it? -- Jon Olson, Modular Mining Systems 3289 E. Hemisphere Loop Tucson, AZ 85706 INTERNET: olson@mmsi.com PHONE: (520)746-9127 FAX: (520)889-5790 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 3 12:32:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA04186 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:32:46 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15464 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:33:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:59461 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11203-24058>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:32:45 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970981-31949>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 06:17:34 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:21471 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971139-31949>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 06:17:22 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id MAA04178; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:31:05 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199806031131.MAA04178@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: GDB? libdl.so To: olson@mmsi.com (Jon Olson) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:31:04 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux@arm.uk.linux.org, penne@cptsu5.univ-mrs.fr, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199806022056.NAA32577@toontown.mmsi.com> from "Jon Olson" at Jun 2, 98 01:56:56 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Jon Olson > Anybody know the status of ELF linux for ARM? Is anybody working > on it? Phil Blundell said he'd release an ELF toolchain RSN. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From olson@mmsi.com Wed Jun 3 14:48:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mmsi.com (fw1.mmsi.com [209.75.132.66]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA04416 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:48:07 +0100 Received: from modular-2 by mmsi.com (8.8.5/SMI-4.1) id GAA10140; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 06:48:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from toontown.mmsi.com by modular-2 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18703; Wed, 3 Jun 98 06:48:05 MST Received: by toontown.mmsi.com (8.8.5/SMI-4.1) id GAA27458; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 06:48:05 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 06:48:05 -0700 Message-Id: <199806031348.GAA27458@toontown.mmsi.com> From: Jon Olson To: willy@odie.barnet.ac.uk Cc: linux@arm.uk.linux.org, penne@cptsu5.univ-mrs.fr, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199806031131.MAA04178@odie.barnet.ac.uk> (message from Matthew Wilcox on Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:31:04 +0100 (BST)) Subject: Re: GDB? libdl.so Status: RO Hmmm... `ELF toolchain' implies a compiler and binutils... I already built those. What takes real time and effort is building libc, everything else that links to it including X11, testing it, and packaging it up in RPM files. Is this what you're working on, Phil? -- Jon Olson, Modular Mining Systems 3289 E. Hemisphere Loop Tucson, AZ 85706 INTERNET: olson@mmsi.com PHONE: (520)746-9127 FAX: (520)889-5790 From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 3 14:49:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA04425 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:49:51 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15495 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:50:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:19252 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT2") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6264-19005>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:50:07 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971266-31949>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:34:49 -0400 Received: from relay1.UU.NET ([192.48.96.5]:2285 "EHLO relay1.UU.NET" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971268-31949>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:34:25 -0400 Received: from xedia.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: madway.xedia.com [198.202.232.199]) id QQeseh23451; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 09:48:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tonga.xedia.com by xedia.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19894; Wed, 3 Jun 98 09:08:27 EDT Received: by tonga.xedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA01252; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 09:07:47 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 09:07:47 -0400 Message-Id: <199806031307.JAA01252@tonga.xedia.com> From: Paul Koning Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: dg@cogency.co.uk Cc: stewart@parc.xerox.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: EBSA-285 adventures References: <199806021049.DAA15375@toaster.parc.xerox.com> <3573DE49.59B6BBEE@cogency.co.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >>>>> "David" == David Alan Gilbert writes: David> Hi Stewart, Some points you might like to consider: David> 3) I have a TFTP booter for that ether card; (Its Russ's 3com David> TFTP booter with some patches). I'll try and remember to David> bring it in - although I still use Angel to load it. (Take David> your serial rates down to something like 19200 and see if you David> still have hastles). I had the same problems Paul Stewart mentioned, which sound very different from your experience. If I configure the EBSA-285 as "central function", it doesn't respond at all to any input. On powerup, it prints the "angel" banner message, and that is all. Angelboot gets no response from it. (I'm using speed 9600 for the initial exchange, that's the speed the banner comes out at. But others don't work either.) Configured as "not central function" I got it to work once, but not again. What seems to happen then is that it doesn't print out a banner a person can read. Instead (right now, for me) it prints out a steady stream of meaningless characters. Angelboot doesn't appreciate this either; it complains bitterly about "received 0xff when expecting start of packet". The appearance of that stream doesn't change a lot no matter what I set for line speed (interesting...). My setup is just the EBSA-285 in the backplane, no other cards of any kind. Any ideas? I'v been trying to make some progress using FMU (under DOS) but that's a major pain because our only PCI PC is my wife's PC, which I try not to take apart too often... :-) A TFTP booter would be much appreciated. If I can get H-Forth to work I can use that to go forward, but at the moment I can't get that to work either because of the problems above... David> 6) (Noting 4) The Ncr53c8xx SCSI drivers seem to work with David> very little work. That reminds me... I found that PCI IDE adapters exist (they are rare but if you can find them they are cheap). Any idea whether that could be made to work (with the proviso you mentioned)? I have some spare IDE drives but no SCSI drives, so this approach is attractive... paul unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 3 15:02:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA04438 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:02:34 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA15499 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:03:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:19011 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <7039-19005>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 17:01:55 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970985-31949>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:46:44 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:2151 "HELO globe" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970977-31949>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:46:27 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yhE1W-0006NF-00; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:56:14 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yhE1U-0002tE-00; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:56:12 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Paul Koning cc: dg@cogency.co.uk, stewart@parc.xerox.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: EBSA-285 adventures In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jun 1998 09:07:47 EDT." <199806031307.JAA01252@tonga.xedia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 14:56:11 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >That reminds me... I found that PCI IDE adapters exist (they are rare >but if you can find them they are cheap). Any idea whether that could It shouldn't be a problem. I have IDE going on a CATS board (which is basically just an EBSA-285 with some extra bells and whistles). p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From pb@nexus.co.uk Wed Jun 3 15:06:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: from globe (nexusel.demon.co.uk [158.152.30.195]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA04442 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:06:00 +0100 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yhE7H-0006Nz-00; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:02:11 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yhE7G-0002tZ-00; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:02:10 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Jon Olson cc: willy@odie.barnet.ac.uk, linux@arm.uk.linux.org, penne@cptsu5.univ-mrs.fr, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: GDB? libdl.so In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jun 1998 06:48:05 PDT." <199806031348.GAA27458@toontown.mmsi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 15:02:09 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Status: RO In message <199806031348.GAA27458@toontown.mmsi.com>, Jon Olson writes: >Hmmm... `ELF toolchain' implies a compiler and binutils... I already >built those. What takes real time and effort is building libc, >everything else that links to it including X11, testing it, and >packaging it up in RPM files. Is this what you're working on, Phil? No. What I've been working on (though Scott Bambrough and Pat Beirne deserve credit for a lot of this) is updating the ELF compiler and binutils to support position-independent code and hence shared libraries, porting glibc2 to the ARM, and fixing the bugs so it all works together. Once this is done, building an entire system and packaging it in RPM files should just be a mechanical matter of feeding it all through `rpm'. Most of the difficulties people have in building things for Linux/ARM at the moment are quirks of a.out or the stone-age libc that we use. p. From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 3 15:58:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA04476 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:58:58 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA15513 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:59:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:63268 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11041-27883>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 17:58:34 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971296-31949>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 09:41:34 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:38209 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971319-31949>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 09:40:32 -0400 Received: from mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA29047 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:55:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.157]) by mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA45694 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:55:32 +0200 Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf2) id AA29595; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:55:30 +0200 Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:55:30 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: X and KDE packages In-Reply-To: <5f3d1b5048%dantodd@dantodd.bigpond.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, Dan Todd wrote: > Has anyone made X or KDE binaries available? Is there a FAQ or HOWTO > descibing how to get things working ok with the sources rpms, as I'm > idiot who's new to Linux. I once tried to compile KDE for ARMLinux but failed because the qt-library, which KDE depends on, doesn't seem to work on ARMLinux right now. However, X is available with the ARMLinux distribution. Just install it onto your HD (takes a little time) and type 'startx' after the login procedure. Good luck. ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 3 16:03:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA04480 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:03:24 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA15517 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:03:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:60206 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11014-19005>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 18:02:31 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971293-31949>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 09:46:51 -0400 Received: from post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.40]:54765 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971290-31949>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 09:46:33 -0400 Received: from (stntnbry.demon.co.uk) [158.152.21.133] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yhF2g-0000d4-00; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:01:31 +0000 Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:00:14 +0100 (BST) From: Pete Bradbury Subject: Newbie knows nothing! To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: pete@home, Milton Keynes, England X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.45] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Is there anyone in the Milton Keynes (north Bucks) area using Linux on a RPC who might care to show me what it can do and how to set it up. Thanks, Pete -- Pete Bradbury Anti UCE remove BLOCK ================================================ ARM powered !!!!!!!!!!! RiscPC 700 - 42 meg RAM ================================================ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 3 16:15:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA04485 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:15:16 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA15521 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:15:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:40510 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2375-24058>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 18:15:01 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971317-31949>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 09:59:12 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:43700 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971306-31949>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 09:55:59 -0400 Received: from mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA00539 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 17:11:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.157]) by mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA31438 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 17:11:10 +0200 Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf2) id AA24916; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 17:11:09 +0200 Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 17:11:09 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: What I've been doing today... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi Russel, I hope I'm not the first person to do this, but I want to thank you for t his page named in #Subject. It's quite interesting and I would be glad if you could continue this list... ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 3 17:21:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA04545 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 17:21:14 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA15535 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 17:21:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:58736 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10980-24058>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 19:21:24 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971010-31949>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 10:42:24 -0400 Received: from [193.128.238.145] ([193.128.238.145]:2478 "EHLO pat.risccores.co.uk" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971312-31949>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 10:21:37 -0400 Received: by mailhost.risccores.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:41:59 +0100 Message-ID: From: matthew To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: RE: What I've been doing today... Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:41:56 +0100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I second that! unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 3 18:59:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA04694 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 18:59:01 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA15547 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 18:59:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:64602 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6498-27883>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 20:58:50 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970971-31949>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:42:10 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1953 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970994-31949>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:40:40 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0ygyer-0000vu-00; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 22:31:49 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Jon Olson cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: GDB? libdl.so In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 Jun 1998 13:56:56 PDT." <199806022056.NAA32577@toontown.mmsi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 22:31:49 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >Anybody know the status of ELF linux for ARM? Is anybody working >on it? Yes. We should be able to release a complete toolset later this week. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 3 22:47:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA05051 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 22:47:07 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA15580 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 22:47:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:45355 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10646-24058>; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 00:47:07 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971091-31949>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:23:41 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1575 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971309-31949>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:19:27 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA02651; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 22:35:52 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA28903; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 21:00:59 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id VAA00475; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 21:01:26 +0100 Message-Id: <199806032001.VAA00475@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: What I've been doing today... To: shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Stefan Hanske) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 21:01:25 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Stefan Hanske" at Jun 3, 98 05:11:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Stefan Hanske writes: > I hope I'm not the first person to do this, but I want to thank you for t > his page named in #Subject. It's quite interesting and I would be glad if > you could continue this list... Well, it has been going for 2 months now, and seems to be gaining popularity... _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 3 22:51:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA05074 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 22:51:03 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA15584 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 22:51:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:64571 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10846-3474>; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 00:51:01 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971131-31949>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:23:48 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1605 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971318-31949>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:20:05 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA02658; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 22:35:58 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA29125; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 22:35:38 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id WAA00711; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 22:36:00 +0100 Message-Id: <199806032136.WAA00711@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: EBSA-285 adventures To: pkoning@xedia.com (Paul Koning) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 22:35:59 +0100 (BST) Cc: dg@cogency.co.uk, stewart@parc.xerox.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199806031307.JAA01252@tonga.xedia.com> from "Paul Koning" at Jun 3, 98 09:07:47 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Paul Koning writes: > A TFTP booter would be much appreciated. If I can get H-Forth to work > I can use that to go forward, but at the moment I can't get that to > work either because of the problems above... My TFTP loader isn't the most friendly of sources - it was originally written to be as small as possible for the EBSA-110. This means that it contains some C code, written to be as efficient as possible and some assembler code. As a consequence, it's not readable at all. However, it is easily expandable in terms of network hardware. It has not been designed to be distributed, but was more a stop-gap tftp/bootp implementation that loaded quickly on the EBSA-110 to pull a large kernel image quickly to it. So, what does this mean in terms of the EBSA-285? Well, I added to the code a driver for 3com 3c59x cards. Dave Gilbert has added a particular type of DEC ether chip. I have not received his code yet, so I'm not exactly going to start publicising it yet. Maybe once Dave's sent his patches I'll have a closer look at it to make it more publically available. Please note, however, that this does not loader does not currently fall under the GNU Public License, but may do in future. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 3 23:06:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA05086 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 23:06:47 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA15588 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 23:07:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:21850 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6498-24058>; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 01:07:09 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971070-31949>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:47:00 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:2024 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971301-31949>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:39:13 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yhLQa-0008Oi-00; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 22:50:36 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin cc: pkoning@xedia.com (Paul Koning), dg@cogency.co.uk, stewart@parc.xerox.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: EBSA-285 adventures In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jun 1998 22:35:59 BST." <199806032136.WAA00711@raistlin.armlinux.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 22:50:35 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >Please note, however, that this does not loader does not currently >fall under the GNU Public License, but may do in future. What licence is it under currently? p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 3 23:09:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA05090 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 23:09:11 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA15592 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 23:09:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:65393 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6890-27883>; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 01:09:41 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971261-31949>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:52:27 -0400 Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk ([194.131.104.13]:57385 "HELO golden.argonet.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971266-31949>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:47:19 -0400 Received: from (argbr88) [193.130.252.229] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yhLdP-00048F-00; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 23:03:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dana K Scully To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 23:03:32 +0100 Message-ID: <48509b9e97dkscully@argonet.co.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08i for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Re: CD ROM drives In-Reply-To: <199805301109.MAA00848@raistlin.armlinux.org> Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On 30 May, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > Matthew Wilcox writes: > > Russell King - ARM Linux Admin > > > Dana K Scully writes: > > > > So, my new CD Drive arrived today, its a panasonic 24x one, and > > > > works > fine > > > > under riscos 3.7 using the atapi drivers. Unfortunately, booting > > > > into Linux gets as far as recognising the hard drive and the cd > > > > rom drive > and > > > > then stops dead, cursor stops flashing and the system requires a > > > > power reset. > > > Have you tried booting this kernel without the CD Drive connected? > > > What does the kernels on the FTP site do? > > > > Yes, she's booted the kernel previously; it goes wrong once the CD > > drive is plugged in. The kernels on the FTP site worked without the > > CD drive, but she had to compile her own in order to get PPP support. > Ok, but what about the kernels on the FTP site with CD drive connected? Sorry, should have got back about this sooner. The same thing happens with the RPC kernel from the FTP site. L * Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive. -- | |\/| / BSc (Hons) Chemistry (So'ton), ZFC A (Sc) |__esley | |itchell / dkscully@argonet.co.uk A woman of many talents. :) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 3 23:09:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA05095 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 23:09:40 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA15596 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 23:10:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:65393 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6546-27883>; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 01:10:01 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971082-31949>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:52:37 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1711 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971295-31949>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:52:11 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id XAA03282; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 23:07:40 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA29328; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 23:07:21 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id XAA00838; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 23:07:41 +0100 Message-Id: <199806032207.XAA00838@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: EBSA-285 adventures To: Philip.Blundell@pobox.com (Philip Blundell) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 23:07:40 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux@arm.uk.linux.org, pkoning@xedia.com, dg@cogency.co.uk, stewart@parc.xerox.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Jun 3, 98 10:50:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Philip Blundell writes: > >Please note, however, that this does not loader does not currently > >fall under the GNU Public License, but may do in future. > > What licence is it under currently? It's under my own copyright at the moment - no one has any rights to it except by express permisssion, which means Dave Gilbert and myself currently. Like I say, once it's in a distributable form, it then stands a chance of becoming GNU. Phil, not everything can be GNU from the start. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 4 01:33:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA05266 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 01:33:37 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA15649 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 01:34:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:49200 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11150-27883>; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 03:34:07 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971054-31949>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 19:16:48 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:24671 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971062-31949>; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 19:15:16 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id BAA05243 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 01:31:31 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199806040031.BAA05243@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: install without reformatting To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 01:31:30 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I've finished my exams now (raay! ;-) and I've been working on a method for installing ARMLinux without repartitioning your hard drive. I agree with Russell that a loopback mount is the way to go, and I've now got an ext2 file on my ADFS partition acting as a partition. Both reading and writing work, though I've not stressed it too hard. Russell, do you have a booter which supports the initrd method? Otherwise, I might just do something which requires you to leave a boot floppy in permanently - would people find that acceptable while they're fiddling with the system? I'm also less than sure that this is always going to work - non techy people can skip the next paragraph. An initrd would do the following: initrd gets copied to ram0 ram0 gets mounted on / kernel executes /linuxrc -- this is all standard initrd stuff /linuxrc is a program which: mounts proc on /proc mounts /dev/hda1 on /adfs losetup /dev/loop0 /adfs/linux cat 0700 > /proc/sys/realrootdev (or something..) unmounts /proc then it exits and the initrd code remounts / on /initrd mounts loop0 on / boot sequence continues as normal - ie /sbin/init The careful observer will now be asking `but what happens to /adfs?'. And the answer is that _in 2.0_ it stays mounted - on /initrd/adfs without /proc/mounts being updated. This is work-roundable, but it means that the initrd can never be freed and it'll be taking up ram. Perhaps I need to introduce a special variant of initrd that copes with having multiple filesystems mounted. Maybe I'll ask on linux-kernel next week when everyone's calmed down from Linux Expo. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 4 09:42:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA05501 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:42:01 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15702 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:42:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:57376 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10910-19005>; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 11:42:36 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971089-31949>; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 03:23:23 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:21924 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971100-31949>; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 03:23:10 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (JAA21674); Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:41:30 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:41:30 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: Philip Blundell cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Come to the Acorn South-East Show!!! (was Re: GDB? libdl.so) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, Philip Blundell wrote: > >Anybody know the status of ELF linux for ARM? Is anybody working > >on it? > > Yes. We should be able to release a complete toolset later this week. Cool! Will it be stable enough for being demonstrated on the armlinux stand at the South-East show? There's another thing - you all must come to the South-East show - it'll be great :-) Those lovely people at the ARM Club have allocated us a little stand next to the bring&buy stand. Do drop in and say hi if you're going to be there. In order to make the armlinux stand as impressive as possible, I'm going to spend the week and a half between my exams and the show downloading, compiling and installing as many funky programs (preferably X) that I can, especially the ones that look pretty. If anyone has any programs they know work under armlinux X and won't be too much of a problem to compile, could they please let me know where to get hold of the source. Thanks in advance, and hopefully I'll see plenty of armlinuxers at the show. Bye, Phil -- Rule of programming #2: Everything that can go wrong will go wrong, but only on other people's configurations. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 4 09:50:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA05505 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:50:13 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15707 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:50:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:65316 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2765-27883>; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 11:50:41 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971025-31949>; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 03:31:32 -0400 Received: from [193.128.238.145] ([193.128.238.145]:3661 "EHLO pat.risccores.co.uk" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971014-31949>; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 03:31:12 -0400 Received: by mailhost.risccores.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:54:55 +0100 Message-ID: From: matthew To: "'Russell King - ARM Linux Admin'" Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: RE: ghostscript and ghostview under X Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:54:53 +0100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > ---------- > From: Russell King - ARM Linux > Admin[SMTP:linux@arm.uk.linux.org] > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 1998 8:49 PM > To: matthew@argonaut.com > Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu > Subject: Re: ghostscript and ghostview under X > > matthew writes: > > > > > Also, I tried fiddling with xpaint this morning (I was bored) > and I > > > > > noticed I can't type anything into the dialogue box which pops > up when > > > > > you click on the item off the File menu which creates a new > canvas > > > > > with given dimensions. > > > > I've noticed this on both Chimera, and any tcl/tk programs I've > tried. > > > > Solutions, anyone? > > > I agree about chimera, but tcl/tk works fine for me ! Strange > isn't > > > it?? > > Bizarre - I tried a TCL/TK Mud client, which runs perfectly but > ignores > > any clicking or typing... > > I'm not certain about this, but there may be a way of 'frigging' it. > I'm > going to be compiling up new X libraries soon, so I should know the > answer. > > I do seem to remember having some problems with this, which I solved > by > putting: > > *input: true > > in my .Xdefaults (or .Xresources) file. This then worked properly. > Maybe > someone could try out a client running under ARM Linux without this > line > but displayed on another X server and mail me the results. > > This should then point the finger squarely at either the client or the > server. > OK - putting the *input: true in the .Xdefaults file works for Chimera, but I still don't get any response from tcl/tk. I tried both the smm mud client, and 'make xconfig' on the kernel to no avail. I've yet to try the remote server, but maybe sometime this weekend I'll get a chance. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From P.C.F.Norman@exeter.ac.uk Thu Jun 4 10:09:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: from exeter.ac.uk (hermes.ex.ac.uk [144.173.6.14]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA05526 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:09:49 +0100 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (KAA25071); Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:10:25 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:10:25 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: Matthew Wilcox cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: install without reformatting In-Reply-To: <199806040031.BAA05243@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > I've finished my exams now (raay! ;-) and I've been working on a method Bah - it's alright for some :-( > for installing ARMLinux without repartitioning your hard drive. I agree > with Russell that a loopback mount is the way to go, and I've now got > an ext2 file on my ADFS partition acting as a partition. Both reading > and writing work, though I've not stressed it too hard. That'd be great - esp. if it's ready for the South-East show. Please drop me a line if it does become ready for then - and I'll have a go at reinstalling linux (again) with this method so I know how it's done. Is there a Guinness Book of Records entry for the person who's installed linux the most times on the same box? > Otherwise, I might just do something which requires you to leave a boot > floppy in permanently - would people find that acceptable while they're Would it be possible to get the bootloader to load a ramdisc from the ADFS partition? This would be similar to what happens under the BSD installer (which is very sexy) and would make life a lot less time-consuming for those of us who reinstall linux regularly ;-). Bye for now, Phil -- Linux: The best things in life are free. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 4 10:14:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA05537 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:14:26 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15715 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:15:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:28492 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3039-27883>; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:14:44 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971152-31949>; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 03:55:36 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:5322 "HELO globe" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971274-31949>; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 03:55:12 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yhVzS-0006wW-00; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:07:18 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yhVzQ-00007u-00; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:07:16 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: EBSA-285 adventures In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jun 1998 23:07:40 BST." <199806032207.XAA00838@raistlin.armlinux.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 10:07:16 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >> What licence is it under currently? > >Phil, not everything can be GNU from the start. If you must read between the lines of everything I say, at least do me the courtesy of not complaining about what you think you've discovered. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 4 16:52:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA06269 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 16:52:29 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA15767 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 16:53:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:36115 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2339-3474>; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 18:41:27 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971486-31949>; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:20:11 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:52619 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971507-31949>; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:19:19 -0400 Received: from mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA10002 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 17:39:36 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.157]) by mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA46626 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 17:39:37 +0200 Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf2) id AA08754; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 17:39:36 +0200 Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 17:39:36 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ghostscript and ghostview under X In-Reply-To: <199806021949.UAA00870@raistlin.armlinux.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > I do seem to remember having some problems with this, which I solved by > putting: > > *input: true > > in my .Xdefaults (or .Xresources) file. This then worked properly. Maybe This works fine for xfm which was a pain to use without the ability to enter text in dialog boxes. ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 5 11:32:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA07175 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:32:33 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15921 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:33:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:56682 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19831-27883>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 13:32:58 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971472-31949>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 05:07:00 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:32668 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971473-31949>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 05:06:39 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (LAA07699); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:28:49 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:28:49 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: ARM Linux Subject: South-East Show again Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi! Things are now pretty much sorted. Matthew Wilcox is now definately able to go to the show, so transport is no longer a problem, and we'll not only have an extra person on the stand (much nicer than doing it on my own), but he'll also be bringing some extra computers. Thanks VERY much to Phil Blundell and Steve Dicks who both very kindly offered transport, even though it would have taken them well out of their way. After talking to RMK and MW last night about the show, current ideas for what'll be at the show are: 1: Possibility of an internet link. 2: ARMLinux boxes doing funky things with X and ethernet. 3: A box whose sole purpose is to compile custom kernels. 4: A box for installation onto hard discs - bring a HD and we'll install armlinux on it. All four of these are indefinate. If I get any more detailed news I'll let everyone know. Bye for now, see you at the show, Phil -- Linux: A penguin which jumps through Windows and leaps over Gates. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 5 12:34:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA07365 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:34:22 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15926 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:35:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:29496 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10392-24058>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:35:03 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971564-31949>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 06:12:01 -0400 Received: from zaz.kom.auc.dk ([130.225.51.10]:61973 "HELO zaz.kom.auc.dk" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971569-31949>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 06:11:26 -0400 Received: from trabant.kom.auc.dk [130.225.51.16] (root) by zaz.kom.auc.dk with smtp (Exim 1.80 #1) id 0yhukn-0004yq-00; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 13:33:49 +0200 Received: from janm.stud.kom.auc.dk [10.0.171.85] by trabant.kom.auc.dk with smtp (Exim 1.80 #1) id 0yhukn-0007ff-00; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 13:33:49 +0200 Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 13:33:51 +0200 From: Jan Magnussen Subject: Bad header in linux-3.25-alpha.arc To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Quercus. Denmark. X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.26] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hello I have been downloading the file in the header, but I have not been able to unarc it. I have tried various ftp/browsers on many different platforms with many different unarcers, but every time, I am to that the file has bad headers. Could somebody pelase tell me how to unpack this, or would somebody send me the file as a valid arc,zip,arj,rar,tgz or whatever. Regards, Jan Magnussen http://www.kom.auc.dk/~janm Fidonet : 2:234/181.8 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 5 12:41:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA07375 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:41:09 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15930 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:42:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:63034 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10475-3474>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:42:00 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971590-31949>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 06:18:50 -0400 Received: from zaz.kom.auc.dk ([130.225.51.10]:62091 "HELO zaz.kom.auc.dk" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971587-31949>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 06:18:35 -0400 Received: from trabant.kom.auc.dk [130.225.51.16] (root) by zaz.kom.auc.dk with smtp (Exim 1.80 #1) id 0yhurj-00050S-00; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 13:40:59 +0200 Received: from janm.stud.kom.auc.dk [10.0.171.85] by trabant.kom.auc.dk with smtp (Exim 1.80 #1) id 0yhuri-0007gR-00; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 13:40:58 +0200 Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 13:40:59 +0200 From: Jan Magnussen Subject: Problems with etherh in 10baseT mode To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Quercus. Denmark. X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.26] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi I have been trying to make my I-cubed Ether Lan 500 work in a 10baseT network, but the autodetect of 10baseT fails, the the driver is looking for a network on 10base2, which (ofcourse) fails. I even tried to jump the card forcing it to 10baseT mode, but still the etherh driver tries to use the 10base2 port. The autodetection works fine in RISCOS. If the autodetection cannot be made to work, would somebody please tell me how to modify the etherh.c file to default it to 10baseT. Thank you. Regards, Jan Magnussen http://www.kom.auc.dk/~janm Fidonet : 2:234/181.8 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 5 12:50:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA07432 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:50:04 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi ([128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15940 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:50:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:63034 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10778-24058>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:49:07 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971613-31949>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 06:26:00 -0400 Received: from hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.16.101]:57228 "HELO hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971614-31949>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 06:25:49 -0400 Received: from lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk by hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk with SMTP-GLA (MMTA) with ESMTP; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:48:11 +0100 Received: from localhost (9606585c@localhost) by lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk (8.8.4/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA05166; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:48:03 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:48:01 +0100 (BST) From: James Craig <9606585c@udcf.gla.ac.uk> X-Sender: 9606585c@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk To: Jan Magnussen cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Bad header in linux-3.25-alpha.arc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, Jan Magnussen wrote: > Hello I have been downloading the file in the header, but I have not been > able to unarc it. I have tried various ftp/browsers on many different > platforms with many different unarcers, but every time, I am to that the file > has bad headers. Could somebody pelase tell me how to unpack this, or would > somebody send me the file as a valid arc,zip,arj,rar,tgz or whatever. Haven't looked at the file myself yet, but I wouldn't mind betting it's an ArcFS or SparkFS archive, so try !Sparkplug or nspark. nspark's on ftp.acorn.com still, I think, and SparkPlug's all over the place. -- James Craig <9606585c@udcf.gla.ac.uk> unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 5 13:22:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk (sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk [128.86.8.45]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id NAA07576 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 13:22:53 +0100 Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk by sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk with UK SMTP (PP); Fri, 5 Jun 1998 13:23:46 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15944 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 13:13:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:12392 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20215-3474>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 15:12:54 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971629-31949>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 06:49:41 -0400 Received: from zaz.kom.auc.dk ([130.225.51.10]:62867 "HELO zaz.kom.auc.dk" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971638-31949>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 06:49:21 -0400 Received: from trabant.kom.auc.dk [130.225.51.16] (root) by zaz.kom.auc.dk with smtp (Exim 1.80 #1) id 0yhvLb-0005G7-00; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:11:51 +0200 Received: from janm.stud.kom.auc.dk [10.0.171.85] by trabant.kom.auc.dk with smtp (Exim 1.80 #1) id 0yhvLb-00002l-00; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:11:51 +0200 Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 14:11:51 +0200 From: Jan Magnussen Subject: Re: Bad header in linux-3.25-alpha.arc To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Quercus. Denmark. X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.26] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Fri 05 Jun, James Craig wrote: > Haven't looked at the file myself yet, but I wouldn't mind betting it's an > ArcFS or SparkFS archive, so try !Sparkplug or nspark. > nspark's on ftp.acorn.com still, I think, and SparkPlug's all over the > place. I tried SparkFS,Spark,ArcFS2,nspark and none of them was able to unarc the file... Regards, Jan Magnussen http://www.kom.auc.dk/~janm Fidonet : 2:234/181.8 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 5 17:54:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA07940 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:54:02 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA15982 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:54:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:40024 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10373-19005>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 19:54:00 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971193-31949>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:29:54 -0400 Received: from alpha.Xerox.COM ([13.1.64.93]:4892 "HELO alpha.xerox.com" ident: "firewall-user") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971161-31949>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:26:46 -0400 Received: from toaster.parc.xerox.com ([13.1.102.43]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <55578(3)>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 09:49:57 PDT Received: from toaster.parc.xerox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by toaster.parc.xerox.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA04126; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 09:49:26 -0700 Message-Id: <199806051649.JAA04126@toaster.parc.xerox.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 Reply-To: stewart@parc.xerox.com To: Paul Koning Subject: Re: EBSA-285 adventures Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jun 1998 06:07:47 PDT." <199806031307.JAA01252@tonga.xedia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 09:49:22 PDT From: Paul Stewart X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO In message <199806031307.JAA01252@tonga.xedia.com> you write: >My setup is just the EBSA-285 in the backplane, no other cards of any >kind. Any ideas? I'v been trying to make some progress using FMU >(under DOS) but that's a major pain because our only PCI PC is my >wife's PC, which I try not to take apart too often... :-) Possibly as a sign of Intel's commitment to the StrongARM, new PDFs have been arriving on their developer site: http://developer.intel.com/design/strong/techdocs/index.htm At this page, one can now find an App Note for programming the flash memory of the EBSA-285 using the EBSA's JTAG port and a PC serial port. I hope to report later today whether or not my adventures in implementing this sort of setup works. -- Paul unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 5 17:59:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA07945 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:59:31 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA15986 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 18:00:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:33889 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10833-27883>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 19:59:27 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971161-31949>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:35:33 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:39464 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971407-31949>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:33:50 -0400 Received: from mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21273 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 18:57:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.157]) by mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA43008 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 18:57:12 +0200 Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf2) id AA17122; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 18:57:10 +0200 Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 18:57:08 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: [Fwd: Believe it or not... (fwd)] (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Computers are like airconditions - they stop working properly as soon as you open windows. Subject: Believe it or not... Hi, Just a quick note to brighten your day!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Actual dialog of a former Wordperfect Customer Support employee: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Ridge Hall computer assistant; may I help you?" > "Yes, well, I'm having trouble with WordPerfect." > "What sort of trouble?" > "Well, I was just typing along, and all of a sudden the words went away.", > "Went away?" > "They disappeared." > "Hmm. So what does your screen look like now?" > "Nothing." > "Nothing?" > "It's blank; it won't accept anything when I type." > "Are you still in WordPerfect, or did you get out?" > "How do I tell?" > "Can you see the C:\ prompt on the screen?" > "What's a sea-prompt?" > "Never mind. Can you move the cursor around on the screen?" > "There isn't any cursor: I told you, it won't accept anything I type." > "Does your monitor have a power indicator?" > "What's a monitor?" > "It's the thing with the screen on it that looks like a TV. Does it have a little light that tells you when it's on?" > "I don't know." > "Well, then look on the back of the monitor and find where the power cord goes into it. Can you see that?" > "Yes, I think so." > "Great! Follow the cord to the plug, and tell me if it's plugged into the wall." > ......"Yes, it is." > > "When you were behind the monitor, did you notice that there were two cables plugged into the back of it, not just one?" > "No." > "Well, there are. I need you to look back there again and find the other cable." > ......."Okay, here it is." > "Follow it for me, and tell me if it's plugged securely into the back of your computer." > "I can't reach." > "Uh huh. Well, can you see if it is?" > "No." > "Even if you maybe put your knee on something and lean way over?" > "Oh, it's not because I don't have the right angle-it's because it's dark." > "Dark?" > "Yes-the office light is off, and the only light I have is coming in from the window." > "Well, turn on the office light then." > "I can't." > "No? Why not?" > "Because there's a power outage." > "A power... A power outage? Aha! Okay, we've got it licked now. Do you still have the boxes and manuals and packing stuff your computer came in?" > "Well, yes, I keep them in the closet." > "Good! Go get them, and unplug your system and pack it up just like it was when you got it. Then take it back to the store you bought it from." > "Really? Is it that bad?" > "Yes, I'm afraid it is." > "Well, all right then, I suppose. What do I tell them?" > "Tell them you're too stupid to own a computer." > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 5 18:04:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA07949 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 18:04:57 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA15990 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 18:05:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:33889 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10628-24058>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 20:05:37 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971403-31949>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:41:37 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:41832 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971394-31949> convert rfc822-to-8bit; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:41:30 -0400 Received: from mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA21571 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 19:04:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.157]) by mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA52990 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 19:05:00 +0200 Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf2) id AA21756; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 19:04:58 +0200 Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 19:04:58 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: heat Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO this happened to me this afternoon after a little nap: Recovering from sleeping mode... Initializing reality, please stand by... checking for physical body... present, type human checking for physical body status... working checking for physical brain... present, type human checking for physical brain working... Ooops, conditions->temperature overflow please cool down and reboot Initiating system halt stopping... brain. stopping... body. Entering sleeping mode... In my room there were ~33°C !!!! ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 5 20:04:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA08171 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 20:04:33 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA16001 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 20:05:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:31814 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19621-19005>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 22:05:09 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970855-31949>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 13:27:39 -0400 Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk ([194.131.104.13]:50757 "HELO golden.argonet.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971723-31949>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 13:17:35 -0400 Received: from (bg34.argonet.co.uk) [193.130.247.28] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yi1R9-0007eu-00; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 19:42:00 +0100 Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 19:28:49 +0100 (BST) From: Mark Seaborn Subject: Best way to partition a drive? To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Project Galactic Guide (http://megadodo.com) X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.41] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I've just got a new hard disc plus ICS IDE interface, mainly so that I would have enough space to install Linux (although the ICS interface doesn't seem like such a good idea right now!). What would be the best way to partition it? 1. Several Filecore partitions plus Linux partitions. I'd like to have several smallish Filecore partitions to avoid LFAU wastage (I'll still be using about 2/3rds for RISC OS). But this means playing the waiting game for PartMan to support the ICS partitioning scheme fully. 2. One Filecore partition plus Linux partitions. I've tried setting up the drive with just one partition and free space after that, but PartMan appears to still recognise it as an ICS-partitioned drive and won't add the Linux partitions properly (same for both 1.11 and alphas). I tried formatting it with HForm instead, but it is still recognised as ICS-scheme (presumably HForm doesn't overwrite those identifying sectors). I could use PartMan 1.11 if I had the source to recompile it to not recognise the disc as ICS-scheme. 3. A Linux partition inside a Filecore partition (as in Matthew Wilcox's posting). This would be my preference, but is it usable yet, and would it be much slower? I don't mind helping to test it, anyway. [As an aside, if Linux's Filecore support is read-only, how can it write to the ext2 file on the ADFS disc? Or can it write to files as long as they don't change length?] Thanks in advance for any advice. -- Mark Seaborn - mseaborn@argonet.co.uk - http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/mseaborn/ - ``Red squirrels... you don't see many of them since they became extinct'' -- Michael Aspel unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 5 21:02:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA08231 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 21:02:35 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA16008 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 21:03:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:54634 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10401-3474>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 23:02:21 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971648-31949>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:28:40 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1768 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971777-31949>; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:26:30 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup4.cymru.net [163.164.160.68]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA21404; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 20:51:20 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA32005; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 20:51:02 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00573; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 20:51:21 +0100 Message-Id: <199806051951.UAA00573@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Best way to partition a drive? To: mseaborn@argonet.co.uk (Mark Seaborn) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 20:51:20 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Mark Seaborn" at Jun 5, 98 07:28:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Mark Seaborn writes: > I've just got a new hard disc plus ICS IDE interface, mainly so that I would > have enough space to install Linux (although the ICS interface doesn't seem > like such a good idea right now!). What would be the best way to partition > it? > > 1. Several Filecore partitions plus Linux partitions. I'd like to have > several smallish Filecore partitions to avoid LFAU wastage (I'll still > be using about 2/3rds for RISC OS). But this means playing the waiting > game for PartMan to support the ICS partitioning scheme fully. Try out the latest alpha PartMan - partition the disc using ICS's manager for RiscOS partitions first (and leave some free space at the end). Then try this version of PartMan. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Jun 6 17:56:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA09611 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 17:56:51 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16176 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 17:58:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:48483 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10381-24058>; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 19:57:22 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970866-31949>; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 11:28:02 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1192 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971256-31949>; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 11:27:13 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yiMA8-0005hV-00; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 17:49:48 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: ELF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 17:49:48 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, I've made an initial beta release of the ELF toolset. The release notes are appended to this message. Enjoy. Kudos should be given to Pat Beirne and Scott Bambrough, who did much of the hard work that was needed to get ELF running. Also, thanks to Deborah Wallach for her help with testing the development versions of glibc, and to Lee Smith for acting as our contact in the ARM software team. p. -- This is a beta release of the ARM ELF toolset for Linux. If you haven't heard of ELF, you probably don't want to install this. The toolset consists of the GCC compiler and the binutils suite (assembler, linker, ...). An ELF version of the GNU C library is also provided. All of these tools should also be suitable for targeting a.out systems. Notes on the individual packages are below. You can find the patch files for each package at and . Currently, ELF can be used to compile kernels for both 26-bit and 32-bit machines (ELF is a prerequisite for the 2.1 kernel series). ELF is also suitable for user-space binaries on 32-bit machines only. Support for 26-bit user space ELF may be added later. There are surely bugs in these programs. Please report any you find to philb@gnu.org. Since this is a beta release, please do NOT report bugs to bug-gcc, etc. Binutils -------- The latest beta release of the Linux binutils is 2.9.1.0.6 and can be found at . Earlier releases will not work. `make check' in the GAS directory currently fails 4 tests. This is no cause for alarm. GCC --- The latest release is 2.8.1 and can be found at your local GNU mirror site. The patch may also apply against recent versions of egcs but nothing is guaranteed. Glibc ----- The latest alpha release is 2.0.94 and can be found at . You will also need to get the latest versions of the linuxthreads and crypt add-ons. People outside the US should use the European site for crypt (see the glibc documentation) due to the US export laws. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Jun 6 21:05:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA09772 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 21:05:08 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA16192 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 21:06:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:10261 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10969-24058>; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 23:05:22 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971386-31949>; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 14:32:34 -0400 Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk ([194.131.104.13]:62190 "HELO golden.argonet.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971637-31949>; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 14:30:13 -0400 Received: from (bg34.argonet.co.uk) [193.130.253.173] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yiP6v-0001Zy-00; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 20:58:41 +0100 Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:43:48 +0100 (BST) From: Mark Seaborn Subject: Re: Best way to partition a drive? To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199806051951.UAA00573@raistlin.armlinux.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Project Galactic Guide (http://megadodo.com) X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.41] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO In on Fri 05 Jun, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > Mark Seaborn writes: [snip] > > 1. Several Filecore partitions plus Linux partitions. I'd like to have > > several smallish Filecore partitions to avoid LFAU wastage (I'll > > still be using about 2/3rds for RISC OS). But this means playing > > the waiting game for PartMan to support the ICS partitioning scheme > > fully. > > Try out the latest alpha PartMan - partition the disc using ICS's manager > for RiscOS partitions first (and leave some free space at the end). Then > try this version of PartMan. Yes, I've tried this, with PartMan alpha 7. I can create the Linux partitions and save the partition table, but it won't initialise the newly-created partitions. That part isn't implemented, is it? When I then boot Linux from floppy, it can't install anything to the new partitions because they aren't initialised (I forget whether their partition type numbers are set). I get the option to run fdisk, but that can't initialise the partitions (ICS ones, at least), because it's set to no-write. BTW, in PartMan's disc geometry window, the buffer size of the icon for the number of cylinders isn't large enough to fit the number of cylinders this hard disc has (which is ~13000). (Although since PartMan manages to read the disc's shape anyway, that's not affecting what I'm trying to do.) -- Mark Seaborn - mseaborn@argonet.co.uk - http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/mseaborn/ - ``Oh I just can't wait to be king,'' said Macbeth. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Jun 6 21:28:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA09791 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 21:28:22 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA16196 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 21:29:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:61512 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20152-24058>; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 23:29:21 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971312-31949>; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 15:00:28 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1538 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971269-31949>; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 15:00:11 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA09326 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 21:28:37 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA01938 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 21:28:15 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id VAA01010 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 21:28:40 +0100 Message-Id: <199806062028.VAA01010@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: 2.0.34 for ARM released (v1) To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 21:28:39 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi All! Linux 2.0.34 is now available on the usual ARM Linux FTP site for RiscPCs. You can find the binary kernel and module packages at: ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/distrib/kernels/modules-2.0.34-1998.06.06.tar.gz ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/distrib/kernels/rpc-2.0.34-1998.06.06 The 2.0.34 source patches are at: ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/kernel-sources/v2.0/patch-arm-2.0.34-19980606.gz Please note that the root & supplemental disks haven't been updated yet, so any modules on the disks probably won't work. They should be updated tomorrow. Enjoy! _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Jun 7 15:49:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA10538 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 15:49:30 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16315 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 15:50:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:310 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19633-24058>; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 17:50:31 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971365-31949>; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 09:18:21 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:2043 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971386-31949>; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 09:13:10 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA14292 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 15:44:48 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 15:47:36 +0100 Message-ID: <2830d28mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Installing ARMlinux Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I have been trying to install ARMlinux... I have a SA RPC, with a Powertec SCSI III interface. I noticed the powertec card isnt supported, but I thought I'd try anyway, hoping the powertec SCSI II driver would suffice. Anyhow, I can get as far as the redhad SCSI installation screen, but cant detect my card. Is there any way of fooling it, or will it not work at all? The new alpha !Partman worked a treat on my ex SUN 2.5 Gb Seagate barracuda. Thanks, -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Jun 7 16:27:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA10565 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 16:27:50 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16322 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 16:29:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:37130 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19602-27883>; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 18:28:33 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971547-31949>; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 09:56:23 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:55123 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971458-31949>; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 09:53:40 -0400 Received: from (tardis.home.dave) [194.222.210.232] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yihJx-0005Ik-00; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 16:25:21 +0100 Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 16:20:13 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Gilbert X-Sender: gilbertd@tardis.home.dave To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: .angelrc Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, For those of you struggling with EBSA's and Burtus's (Bruti??) you might like to try this .angelrc: and I start it with: angelboot -b 200000 -e 200074 -v ../BOOTP/bootp (But those are the addresses for our bootloader) # $Causality: dot.angelrc,v 1.3 1997/12/24 01:40:35 ebsa Exp $ # # Example options file for angelboot # # device # options # baud # image # size # offset # base # entry # r0 # r1 # r2 # r3 # exec # # The serial device to use for communicating with Angel device /dev/cua0 # The default serial options to use options "9600 8N1" # The baud rate to use for the actual data download baud 38400 # The boot image filename image toboot # The image size to download # 0 or not present - use file size size 0 # The offset into the image to start the download at # 0 or not present - use start of file offset 0 # The base address to load the image to base 0x8000 # The entry address for execution entry 0x8020 # register 0 on entry r0 0x00000000 # register 1 on entry r1 0x00000002 # register 2 on entry r2 0x00000000 # register 3 on entry r3 0x00000000 # The executable to invoke on completion of a sucessful download exec minicom -------------------------------------------------------------------- / Dr. David Alan Gilbert | Running Linux on Alpha & ARM \ \ gro.gilbert @ treblig.org | ------- Happy in hex ------- / \____________________________|___ http://www.treblig.demon.co.uk __/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Jun 7 17:32:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA10670 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 17:32:12 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16330 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 17:33:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:54088 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20361-24058>; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 19:33:00 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971086-31949>; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 11:00:31 -0400 Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk ([194.131.104.13]:36698 "HELO golden.argonet.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971896-31949>; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 10:57:55 -0400 Received: from (193.130.245.82) [193.130.245.82] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yiiKH-0005ge-00; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 17:29:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: simonj@argonet.co.uk (Simon John) To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 15:11:47 +0100 X-Organization: Argonet, but does not necessarily reflect its views. X-Mailer: ArgoNet 'Voyager' Email Program 1.08 : ab Subject: Zip install Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I've managed to get my Zip drive working with the ARM Linux 2.0.33 installer - it's now recognised as sda4. When I try to install from the Zip disk with the files on it I keep getting the message 'cannot find installation tree' - it was mounting the drive as a MSDOS-type disk, however all of the files are truncated into MSDOS-style filenames instead of the VFAT-type from Windoze95 (which I downloaded it onto the Zip disk through). What is the normal intallation routine - obviously it's not through this Zip disk method - and everybody can't be using that crap 'copy from the X-Files directory on the ClanCD into millions of Zip archives and decompress onto the Linux partition' method? -- Simon E. John Email: simonj@argonet.co.uk WWW: http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/simonj unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Jun 7 18:23:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA10686 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 18:23:38 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA16336 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 18:24:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:26389 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19825-27883>; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 20:24:17 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971815-31949>; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 11:51:29 -0400 Received: from post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.39]:52925 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971844-31949>; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 11:44:48 -0400 Received: from treblig.demon.co.uk ([194.222.210.232]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa1005314; 7 Jun 98 17:13 GMT Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 18:08:20 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Gilbert X-Sender: gilbertd@tardis.home.dave To: Simon John cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Zip install In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Sun, 7 Jun 1998, Simon John wrote: > I've managed to get my Zip drive working with the ARM Linux 2.0.33 > installer - it's now recognised as sda4. > > When I try to install from the Zip disk with the files on it I keep getting > the message 'cannot find installation tree' - it was mounting the drive as a > MSDOS-type disk, however all of the files are truncated into MSDOS-style > filenames instead of the VFAT-type from Windoze95 (which I downloaded it onto > the Zip disk through). Hmm - I've noticed that if I bung a VFAT ZIP disk in and just mount without stating file system type it will mount it as MSDOS without the VFAT features. If I mount with -tvfat I'm OK. I wonder what happens if you build a kernel without MSDOS (but with fat and vfat) whether it will pick it up straight off? Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------- / Dr. David Alan Gilbert | Running Linux on Alpha & ARM \ \ gro.gilbert @ treblig.org | ------- Happy in hex ------- / \____________________________|___ http://www.treblig.demon.co.uk __/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Jun 7 20:06:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA10815 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 20:06:43 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA16348 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 20:08:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:25392 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19555-27883>; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 22:07:51 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971153-31949>; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 13:34:54 -0400 Received: from black.oaktree.co.uk ([193.82.129.7]:2934 "EHLO black.oaktree.co.uk" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971874-31949>; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 13:34:36 -0400 Received: from white.oaktree.co.uk (root@white.oaktree.co.uk [193.82.129.2]) by black.oaktree.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA06816 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 20:07:00 +0100 (BST) Received: (from ben@localhost) by white.oaktree.co.uk (8.8.8/8.7.3) id UAA28126; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 20:06:58 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19980607200658.34728@oaktree.co.uk> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 20:06:58 +0100 From: Ben Dooks To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Cross compiling ARMLinux from a PC Reply-To: ben@fluff.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i X-Disclaimer: These are my views alone. X-URL: http://www.fluff.org/ X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I'm trying to setup my linux based PC to compile an ARMLinux kernel from the 2.0.33 sources. I've unpacked the kernel, patched it, compiled binutils and gcc 2.7.2.2 to compile for arm-linuxaout. I've put the include files supplied into /usr/arm-unknown-linuxaout/include. I cannot get the kernel to compile. It barfs on binfmt_aout.c saying that SEGMENT_SIZE is undefined. There are also problems with warnings about the typing of memcmp and memcpy. Anyone had any experience with this? -- Ben unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 8 02:45:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA11507 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 02:45:54 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA16454 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 02:45:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:16749 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19578-27883>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 04:45:11 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971067-9848>; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 19:36:48 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:3445 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971098-9848>; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 19:30:41 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id XAA26981 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 23:53:32 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 23:56:00 +0100 Message-ID: <2afc405mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: RPC700 wont boot Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi there. I'm also trying to install ARM linux on an RPC 700. It boots, then the screen turns black, and I get some little purple dots, followed by some flahing colums of dots in the midlle of the screen, which then move over to the right hand side... any ideas ? Ta -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 8 02:48:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA11511 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 02:48:48 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA16459 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 02:48:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:16749 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20224-24058>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 04:48:33 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971069-9848>; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 19:36:59 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:3445 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971175-9848>; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 19:30:49 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id XAA25635 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 23:42:56 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 23:45:42 +0100 Message-ID: <2aed2b4mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: A5000 Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I'm trying to install linux on an A5K. I have ethernet access until the 28th, so I'd really like to get it running before then. I'd like to do an FTP install, but I get as far as the prompt for the supp. disk, and it dies. any ideas? -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 8 02:53:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA11522 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 02:53:58 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA16463 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 02:53:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:29700 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19983-24058>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 04:53:51 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971076-9848>; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 19:37:14 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:3445 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971615-9848>; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 19:30:40 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id AAA25773 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 00:03:26 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 00:06:14 +0100 Message-ID: <2b0b404mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: RPC700 Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Further to the RPC700 problems - I can get it to boot if I remove it's SCSI card (it is a CUMANA SCSI II). However, when it comes to detecting the Ethernet card for an FTP install, it fails to detect the EtherH in the machine. it also fails to detect the Ether3 I tried in it. The machine wont boot at all with the SCSI in it. All cards work fine under RISC OS (3.6, ARM7) Ta! -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 8 03:39:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA11539 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 03:39:54 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA16469 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 03:39:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:65120 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20335-3474>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 05:39:40 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970812-9848>; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 20:22:46 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:62752 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971151-9848>; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 19:41:43 -0400 Received: from (reinhouse.demon.co.uk) [212.228.88.2] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yinX8-0005Q5-00; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 23:03:25 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by reinhouse.demon.co.uk with SMTP; Sun, 07 Jun 1998 21:59:39 GMT Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 22:53:47 +0100 From: Timothy Baldwin To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Help starting X Message-ID: <3012aa5248%tim@reinhouse.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40a for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60l X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I have just install the complete ARM Linux distrubtion, and I can't start X. The following is displayed whenever I try to run xinit : X Version 11 Release 6 X Window System (Protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6000) Operating system: linux Using VT 7 Server: support for 2 16 256 colors Screen: 800 by 600 pixels, 256 colour failed to set default font path '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/' Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' giving up. xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. (line breaks added) Any help is aprecciated. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 8 03:44:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA11544 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 03:44:11 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA16473 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 03:44:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:65120 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20371-19005>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 05:43:41 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970806-9848>; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 20:22:39 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:62717 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971140-9848>; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 19:41:15 -0400 Received: from (kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) [158.152.220.239] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yimVp-00016h-00; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 21:57:57 +0100 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yigwO-0000PH-00; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 16:01:00 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Ian Molton cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Installing ARMlinux In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 07 Jun 1998 15:47:36 BST." <2830d28mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 16:01:00 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >Anyhow, I can get as far as the redhad SCSI installation screen, but cant >detect my card. Is there any way of fooling it, or will it not work at all? Depends how similar the two cards are. If they're actually compatible then you can fool it but it would probably involve hacking the driver (which leaves you in a bit of a chicken and egg situation...). But the chances are they're sufficiently different that this wouldn't work and you'd have to write a new driver. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 8 03:44:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA11548 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 03:44:30 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA16476 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 03:44:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:65120 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19594-3474>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 05:44:07 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970799-9848>; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 20:22:58 -0400 Received: from post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.40]:33160 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970876-9848>; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 19:46:28 -0400 Received: from (kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) [158.152.220.239] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yimX7-0001HL-00; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 20:59:17 +0000 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yimSD-0007zx-00; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 21:54:13 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: ben@fluff.org cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Cross compiling ARMLinux from a PC In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 07 Jun 1998 20:06:58 BST." <19980607200658.34728@oaktree.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 21:54:13 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >There are also problems with warnings about the typing of memcmp and >memcpy. You can ignore those safely. >Anyone had any experience with this? I cross-compile kernels all the time (albeit 2.1 series) without any problem. It certainly ought to work. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 8 10:26:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA11813 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 10:26:42 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16522 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 10:26:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:55320 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT2") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19534-685>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 12:20:12 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971125-9848>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 03:29:20 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:18069 "HELO globe" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971314-9848>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 03:25:32 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yixXl-0001x1-00; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 09:44:41 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yixXk-000622-00; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 09:44:40 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Ian Molton cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: A5000 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 07 Jun 1998 23:45:42 BST." <2aed2b4mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 09:44:40 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >I'd like to do an FTP install, but I get as far as the prompt for the supp. >disk, and it dies. Dies in what way? p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 8 11:08:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA11924 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 11:08:39 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16532 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 11:08:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:60268 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19711-682>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 13:06:38 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971088-9848>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 04:23:35 -0400 Received: from pecan.acorn.co.uk ([136.170.131.22]:57567 "HELO pecan.acorn.co.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971367-9848>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 03:56:46 -0400 Received: from acorn.co.uk by pecan.acorn.co.uk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA06779; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 10:31:15 +0100 Message-ID: <357BAF62.369E4625@acorn.co.uk> Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 10:31:14 +0100 From: Chris Berry Organization: Acorn Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Help starting X References: <3012aa5248%tim@reinhouse.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Timothy Baldwin wrote: > > failed to set default font path '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/' > could not open default font 'fixed' Sounds like you haven't got any fonts. Have you installed the fonts RPM? Try: rpm --install ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/distrib/RedHat/RPMS/X11-fonts-6.0-1a3.arm.rpm Cheers, Chris. -- Chris Berry Senior Software Engineer, Acorn Group, Cambridge, UK. Don't waste your CPU cycles - distribute them! http://www.distributed.net/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 8 11:25:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA11950 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 11:25:21 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16540 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 11:25:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:60268 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20161-685>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 13:24:02 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970964-9848>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 04:41:02 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:9610 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970918-9848>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 04:39:59 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (LAA23463); Mon, 8 Jun 1998 11:14:50 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 11:14:50 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Help starting X In-Reply-To: <357BAF62.369E4625@acorn.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Chris Berry wrote: > Sounds like you haven't got any fonts. Have you installed the fonts RPM? > Try: > > rpm --install > ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/distrib/RedHat/RPMS/X11-fonts-6.0-1a3.arm.rpm One word of warning here - it's a biggie. The X11-fonts rpm is rather large, so make sure, if you're dialling up, that it's cheap-phone-calls time. Phil -- Rule of programming #1: Everything that can go wrong will go wrong, except when you're running the debugger. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 8 11:36:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA11985 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 11:36:40 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16555 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 11:36:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:60268 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19612-682>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 13:35:14 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970961-9848>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 04:53:34 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:9964 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971234-9848>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 04:42:18 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (LAA25449); Mon, 8 Jun 1998 11:17:14 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 11:17:14 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: Ian Molton cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: RPC700 wont boot In-Reply-To: <2afc405mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Sun, 7 Jun 1998, Ian Molton wrote: > I'm also trying to install ARM linux on an RPC 700. > > It boots, then the screen turns black, and I get some little purple dots, > followed by some flahing colums of dots in the midlle of the screen, which > then move over to the right hand side... This is because armlinux is not a happy bunny when it comes to deep colour modes. Make sure you're in a 256-colour (or lower) screen mode and THEN boot. This is probably in the FAQ, and if (as it seems) you're planning to install armlinux on many machines, it might be a good idea to get hold of the FAQ; any common problems you have will probably be there, with solutions. Bye, Phil -- Rule of programming #1: Everything that can go wrong will go wrong, except when you're running the debugger. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 8 12:19:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA12026 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 12:19:24 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16566 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 12:19:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:36888 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20101-686>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 14:19:18 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970944-9848>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 05:42:33 -0400 Received: from nz15.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de ([129.13.64.15]:2067 "HELO nz15.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970904-9848>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 05:42:14 -0400 Received: from gmx.de (isdn224-217.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.224.217]) by nz15.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with esmtp id 0yizvF-0004zh-00; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 13:17:05 +0200 Message-ID: <357BC7AF.29F62D14@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 13:14:55 +0200 From: Christian Decker X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: problems when installing the base system Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, I have a very strange problem when I am installing the ARM-Linux base system. I am working in a Acorn RISC PC with a Strong ARM processor with RISC OS 3.7. The base system and the RPMS packages are located at my ADFS harddisc in the right subdir (RedHat/base and RedHat/RPMS). Now I am trying to install. I only want to install the base systems, so I edit the file comps. All entries after the whole Base entry I deleted. When scanning available packages the installer find all packages for the base system. The installer creates the ext2 partition (till this point all run okay), but then it throw the following error message: cannot open the file: /tmp/rhimage/RedHat/base/skeleton.cgz With CTRL-ALT-F2 I looked in this directory and there was a file named skeleton.c. Allright this must be correct because the RISC OS cannot handle more than 10 characters per file name and all packages and so are on the ADFS partition which is controlled by the RISC OS. In the next install procedure (I started the installer again and jumped form one install point to the next as I did it before) I avoid making a ext2 filesystem. Then the installer work a little bit and interrupted the procedure with the error message: Fatal error by opening RPM Database. Well, at this point I have no ideas what I can do. The install.log I found is empty and the last step the installer has done is reading the rpmrc file. After that it says done and no further messages appear in the console opening with CTRL-ALT-F3. Does anybody know this problem or can help me to avoid this? I send my comps file at the end of this messages. Maybe I forgot a rpm file. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 0 1 *beforeskel* setup #pamconfig filesystem end 1 Base MAKEDEV SysVinit adduser ash at bash bdflush bootpc cpio #cracklib-dicts crontabs # db dev diffutils e2fsprogs ed eject etcskel file fileutils findutils fpem gawk #gdbm gpm grep groff gzip hdparm #info initscripts kbd kbdconfig ld.so less # libc * arm-aout-libs # linuxthreads #libg++ #libtermcap # lilo * loadmap logrotate #losetup mailcap mailx man # mkinitrd mingetty modules #mount mouseconfig mt-st ncompress ncurses net-tools #newt #passwd #pam # pcmcia-cs procinfo procmail procps psmisc #pwdb #quota readline #redhat-release rootfiles rpm sed sendmail #shadow-utils sh-utils #slang stat sysklogd tar tcsh termcap textutils time timeconfig #tmpwatch util-linux vim vixie-cron which zsh #zlib zoneinfo end ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Bye, Christian E-Mail: cd_KA@gmx.de unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 8 12:26:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA12058 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 12:26:35 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16570 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 12:26:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:18464 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10992-685>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 14:26:23 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970964-9848>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 05:50:47 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:23313 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970812-9848>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 05:50:24 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (MAA17446); Mon, 8 Jun 1998 12:25:23 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 12:25:23 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: Christian Decker cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: problems when installing the base system In-Reply-To: <357BC7AF.29F62D14@gmx.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Christian Decker wrote: > With CTRL-ALT-F2 I looked in this directory and there was a file named Alt-F2 will do (I think Ctrl is used in XFree86 to switch to VTs). > Does anybody know this problem or can help me to avoid this? Well, this probably isn't the best answer, but you could try using the clan disc installation guide (available from my web page, URL in the sig). This'll eliminate the problem of the 10 char limit. However, there's almost certainly a different way of doing this, since it's possible to install from a CDROM, although this may be from a CDROM using the CDROM type which allows large filenames. Phil -- Rule of programming #1: Everything that can go wrong will go wrong, except when you're running the debugger. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 8 14:55:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA12715 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 14:55:38 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16600 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 14:55:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:43315 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20324-684>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 16:55:23 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971176-9848>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 08:15:06 -0400 Received: from heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.32.11]:1869 "HELO heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971206-9848>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 08:13:12 -0400 Received: from cowslip.cl.cam.ac.uk (cl.cam.ac.uk) [128.232.3.212] (rjb45) by heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yj2Hp-0007Qe-00; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 14:48:33 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma+CL 97/01/24 To: Timothy Baldwin cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Help starting X In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 07 Jun 1998 22:53:47 BST." <3012aa5248%tim@reinhouse.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 14:48:31 +0100 From: Richard Bradbury Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Sun, 07 Jun 1998 22:53:47, Timothy Baldwin wrote: > > failed to set default font path '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/' > Fatal server error: > could not open default font 'fixed' > giving up. Try startx instead of xinit. It should sort out your font path for you. (You must be root to use it I think.) Anybody out there using xdm successfully? -- Richard. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 8 15:06:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA12728 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 15:06:44 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi ([128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16612 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 15:06:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:43315 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10892-686>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:05:21 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971162-9848>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 08:29:28 -0400 Received: from osmium.gn.iaf.nl ([193.67.144.12]:1296 "HELO uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971181-9848>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 08:29:03 -0400 Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA15898 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu); Mon, 8 Jun 1998 15:41:30 +0200 Received: from athene.kitt.nl (athene.kitt.nl [192.168.4.33]) by amaryl.kitt.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA19685 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 15:38:38 +0200 Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 15:39:55 +0000 (GMT) From: Angelo Melis Subject: gethostent missing ? To: linux mailing list Illegal-Object: Syntax error in Message-Id: value found on vger.rutgers.edu: Message-Id: Status: RO Hello, First a thank you to all who replied with solutions fo several problems I had with compiling under ARMLinux. I finally compiled my first C++ program under ARMLinux, and it does something (most of the time core dumping *grin*). But I came across the call gethostent and the linker is complaining that this function is missing. It is defined in the header files, but not in the library file. Does someone have a library which includes this file ? Are is there someone who knows how I can make a library which holds this function ? And another question. What is the difference between GCC 2.7.2 and GCC 2.8.0 (1 ?) ? Is it better to upgrade the compiler, or is the output of GCC 2.7.2 better then GCC 2.8.0 ? I don't want to compile my own kernels, but I would like to continue porting the project I am working on. And what is the status of shared libraries ? Is it usable under ARMLinux and if so, how do I make shared libraries ? Thanks in advance, Angelo -- Angelo Melis Software Engineer email: angelo@kitt.nl quote of the day: "I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK." unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 8 16:08:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA12789 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 16:08:01 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi ([128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16635 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 16:07:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:52258 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20121-686>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 18:05:04 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971216-9848>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 09:28:33 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:20512 "HELO globe" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971396-9848>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 09:25:03 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yj3Nm-0002Kl-00; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 15:58:46 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yj3Nl-0007kE-00; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 15:58:45 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Angelo Melis cc: linux mailing list Subject: Re: gethostent missing ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Jun 1998 15:39:55 -0000." <19980608122934Z971162-9848+1464@vger.rutgers.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 15:58:45 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >like to continue porting the project I am working on. And what is the status >of shared libraries ? Is it usable under ARMLinux and if so, how do I make Shared libraries are hard with a.out. You can do it but I don't advise you to bother. When we have working ELF support (not long now) it will be a lot easier - just a case of doing $ gcc -shared -o libfoo.so bar.o baz.o ... p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 8 16:35:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA12849 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 16:35:31 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16647 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 16:35:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:56681 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19495-686>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 18:35:23 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970919-9848>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 09:59:12 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:3978 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971214-9848>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 09:58:57 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (QAA01169); Mon, 8 Jun 1998 16:34:38 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 16:34:38 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Help starting X In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Richard Bradbury wrote: > Try startx instead of xinit. It should sort out your font path for you. > (You must be root to use it I think.) Nope - anyone can use startx. It's the way I start up X and it works beautifully. It's a bit off-topic, but here's a humourous little anecdote (sp?) for you. I was logged onto a friend's (Rob) linux box and was very bored, and couldn't think what I could amuse myself with. I happened to remember that 'startx' started up the Xserver, and I wondered if it could be done remotely. After the screams of surprise from Rob's room, I realised that it could. The moral of the story? Ensure that noone can use 'startx' unless they're logged on locally ;-). (Is this possible BTW?) Bye, Phil -- Linux: The choice of a GNU generation. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 8 17:48:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA12898 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:48:06 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi ([128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16662 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:20:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:25436 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10970-686>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 19:18:07 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971367-9848>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 10:41:41 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:33509 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971386-9848>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 10:39:52 -0400 Received: from mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA25968; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 18:15:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from aixterm6.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixterm6.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.46]) by mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA19600; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 18:15:03 +0200 Received: (from shanske@localhost) by aixterm6.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id SAA51504; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 18:15:03 +0200 (METDST) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 18:15:03 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixterm6.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: Timothy Baldwin cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Help starting X In-Reply-To: <3012aa5248%tim@reinhouse.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Sun, 7 Jun 1998, Timothy Baldwin wrote: > I have just install the complete ARM Linux distrubtion, and I can't start X. > The following is displayed whenever I try to run xinit : Just try typing `startx`. xinit needs two files to start X window - xinitrc & xserverrc. startx is a little script which looks if there are copies in your home directory. If not, standard files are used instead. Btw, it's not bad to have at least an own .xinitrc in your home directory for customizing the desktop under X window. ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 8 17:52:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA12903 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:52:47 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16669 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:52:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:60457 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11122-686>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 19:51:51 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971374-9848>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 11:02:50 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:21211 "HELO globe" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971480-9848>; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 11:00:40 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yj4mo-0002Rq-00; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:28:42 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yj4mn-0008KJ-00; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:28:41 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Phil Norman cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Help starting X In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Jun 1998 16:34:38 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 17:28:40 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >The moral of the story? Ensure that noone can use 'startx' unless >they're logged on locally ;-). (Is this possible BTW?) You can write a wrapper program round the X server to do this. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 9 12:33:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA15786 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:33:10 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16860 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:33:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:10565 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10273-682>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:32:56 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970860-9848>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 05:15:40 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:7983 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971116-9848>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 04:23:31 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (LAA00313); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:04:27 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:04:27 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: Andrew Tuson cc: ARM Linux Subject: Re: Linux installation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Andrew Tuson wrote: > I downloaded your Linux ClanInstall archive from your > web site and have got as far a being able to boot into > Linux from floppy, but.... > > I have a RiscPC700/SA with an ICS interface. My discs are: > > Internal Interface: > ADFS::4 - 2G boot drive > CDFS::0 - CD Rom drive > > ICS Interface: > IDEFS::4 - 1G Windoze drive > IDEFS::5 - 10M IDEFS + Linux partitions (1K + 380M + 20M) > > Assuming that I change all references of adfs to idefs, and > put the zip archive on idefs::4 will it work, or is that too > simplistic? > > Any assistance would be gratefully received. > > -- > Andrew Tuson > I've cc-ed this to the armlinux email list - someone there probably knows better than I. I'm afraid I've no idea at all. Can anyone help? Phil -- Rule of programming #2: Everything that can go wrong will go wrong, but only on other people's configurations. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 9 13:49:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA16190 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 13:49:48 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16876 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 13:50:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:28944 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10711-686>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 15:49:28 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971027-9848>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 07:06:18 -0400 Received: from teapot23.bigpond.com ([139.134.5.165]:3475 "HELO teapot23.domain2.bigpond.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971051-9848>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 07:04:40 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by teapot23.domain2.bigpond.com (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id ba490413 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 22:44:47 +1100 Received: from BN-A04-pool-203.tmns.net.au ([139.134.41.203]) by mail.bigpond.com (Claudes-Commanding-MailRouter V1.2d); 09 Jun 1998 22:44:44 Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 11:25:50 +0000 From: Dan Todd To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Terminal Problems Message-ID: <5f40785348%dantodd@dantodd.bigpond.com> Organization: The House of Dan X-Mailer: Messenger v1.34c for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60l X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hello, I seem to get 'broken' characters when I have, say, 50 lines. I'm finding this hard to explain. By broken I mean some pixels are way out compared to the others, making the text unreadable. I use a 800x600x256 screen mode on an AKF60. If I change screen size before running Linux, the number of good lines at any time changes also. I'm not using the latest kernal, as I would like to know if it is a problem with my machine (which I'm having many), with my configuration, or something I've done wrong. -- Dan Todd unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 9 13:56:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA16197 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 13:55:59 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16880 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 13:56:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:28944 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11221-685>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 15:56:09 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971060-9848>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 07:14:13 -0400 Received: from [193.128.238.145] ([193.128.238.145]:3833 "EHLO pat.risccores.co.uk" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971039-9848>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 07:13:55 -0400 Received: by mailhost.risccores.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:00:47 +0100 Message-ID: From: matthew To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, "'Dan Todd'" Subject: RE: Terminal Problems Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:00:44 +0100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > ---------- > From: Dan Todd[SMTP:dantodd@bigpond.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 12:25 PM > To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu > Subject: Terminal Problems > > Hello, > > I seem to get 'broken' characters when I have, say, 50 lines. I'm > finding this hard to explain. By broken I mean some pixels are way > out > compared to the others, making the text unreadable. I use a > 800x600x256 > screen mode on an AKF60. If I change screen size before running Linux, > the number of good lines at any time changes also. I'm not using the > latest kernal, as I would like to know if it is a problem with my > machine (which I'm having many), with my configuration, or something > I've done wrong. > It sounds like you are running an old version of the kernel - if you have 1Mb of VRAM (I'm assuming you have a Risc PC here) there was a bug which caused garbage to be displayed once the screen wrapped past a certain boundary. Which version of the kernel are you using, and when did you get it - the latest that I can successfully run on my 1Mb VRAM machine is 2.0.33 (I haven't tried any 2.0.34 kernels yet). > -- > Dan Todd > > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to > majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 9 14:37:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA16303 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:37:47 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16891 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:38:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:19524 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10795-682>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 16:37:54 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971098-9848>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 07:55:45 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:3529 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971052-9848>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 07:55:27 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id OAA07298 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:37:04 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 14:40:03 +0100 Message-ID: <3848a1fmh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Installing on A5k Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi there I was told that to install ARM linux on an A5k i'd need to 'do a mkswap and a swapon' by someone. Well, I would, but I dont have a clue how to! I've been told to try the FAQ etc. but cant find anything helpful anyone got any ideas? Ta! -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 9 16:13:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA16425 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 16:13:33 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16932 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 16:13:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:10522 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10898-682>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 18:11:44 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971142-9848>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:01:23 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:25687 "HELO globe" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971211-9848>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:48:44 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yjPQB-0003Rq-00; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 15:30:43 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yjPQA-0005Wg-00; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 15:30:42 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Ian Molton cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Installing on A5k In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 09 Jun 1998 14:40:03 BST." <3848a1fmh120608@staffs.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 15:30:42 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >I was told that to install ARM linux on an A5k i'd need to 'do a mkswap and >a swapon' by someone. mkswap and swapon are both binaries that live in /bin or /sbin and have manual pages. You just do # mkswap /dev/... # swapon /dev/... giving the name of your swap partition. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 9 16:38:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA16480 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 16:38:52 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16936 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 16:39:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:1796 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10878-684>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 18:38:40 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971237-9848>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:35:57 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:25880 "HELO globe" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971143-9848>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:18:00 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yjPqf-0003Ui-00; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 15:58:05 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yjPqe-0005fj-00; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 15:58:04 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Ian Molton Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Installing on A5k In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 09 Jun 1998 15:56:45 BST." <38b8fb4mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 15:58:04 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >it will not respond to commands such as ls / although it does print what I >type on the screen. Can you not get to a prompt at all? I must admit I haven't used a Red Hat installer for months now. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 9 16:41:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA16493 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 16:41:36 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16940 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 16:41:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:1796 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10249-685>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 18:41:44 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970918-9848>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:52:16 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:4681 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971304-9848>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:41:10 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id QAA25749 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 16:23:37 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 16:26:28 +0100 Message-ID: <38e483amh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: damn A5k... Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I am still having problems with my A5k and installing linux... I'm told I need to do mkswap and swapon before it'll work (seems sensible - I've only got 4Mb) how, in words of one syllable, do I do this? the last line I can see printed (ALT-F4) is <4> VFS blahblah there appears to be no way to enter commands, although I can see what I type appear on the screen.... -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 9 18:49:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA16788 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 18:49:31 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA16977 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 18:49:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:24864 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11102-685>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 20:49:43 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970945-27857>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:06:29 -0400 Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk ([194.131.104.13]:64518 "HELO golden.argonet.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970933-27857>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:06:03 -0400 Received: from (argbr88) [193.130.245.9] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yjSVi-0005HN-00; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 18:48:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dana K Scully To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 14:49:43 +0100 Message-ID: <4853856cabdkscully@argonet.co.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08i for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Xdm In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On 08 Jun, Richard Bradbury wrote: > Anybody out there using xdm successfully? good question. I'm getting the following when I try to use it. [extract from /var/log/messages] May 31 13:37:15 x-files kernel: fcntl_setlk() called by process 86 (syslogd) with broken flock() emulation May 31 13:37:33 x-files kernel: xrdb: memory violation at pc=0x00c1a638, lr=0x00015fc0 (bad address=0x6c2a6e69, code 1) May 31 13:37:33 x-files kernel: xdm: memory violation at pc=0x00c1a638, lr=0x0002b680 (bad address=0x00000000, code 1) anyone help? L (not that I can boot into Linux at the mo, 'cos it still doesn't seem to like my CDROM drive. I'm looking forward to the South East show, where I can pester ppl who know in person. :) * Watch out where the Huskies go and don't you eat that yellow snow! -- | |\/| / BSc (Hons) Chemistry (So'ton), ZFC A (Sc) |__esley | |itchell / dkscully@argonet.co.uk A woman of many talents. :) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 9 19:44:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA16915 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 19:44:19 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA16993 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 19:44:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:61764 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11007-684>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 21:44:33 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971031-27857>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:51:05 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:23171 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971078-27857>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:44:13 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id TAA16889; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 19:26:46 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199806091826.TAA16889@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Xdm To: dkscully@argonet.co.uk (Dana K Scully) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 19:26:44 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <4853856cabdkscully@argonet.co.uk> from "Dana K Scully" at Jun 9, 98 02:49:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Dana K Scully > > On 08 Jun, Richard Bradbury wrote: > > Anybody out there using xdm successfully? > > good question. > > I'm getting the following when I try to use it. > [extract from /var/log/messages] > > May 31 13:37:15 x-files kernel: fcntl_setlk() called by process 86 > (syslogd) with broken flock() emulation That one's nothing to worry about. It will go away when we move to glibc. > May 31 13:37:33 x-files kernel: xrdb: memory violation at pc=0x00c1a638, > lr=0x00015fc0 (bad address=0x6c2a6e69, code 1) > May 31 13:37:33 x-files kernel: xdm: memory violation at pc=0x00c1a638, > lr=0x0002b680 (bad address=0x00000000, code 1) > > anyone help? Maybe. Bring your config file with you... > (not that I can boot into Linux at the mo, 'cos it still doesn't seem to > like my CDROM drive. I'm looking forward to the South East show, where I > can pester ppl who know in person. :) Umm. PhilN> I've decided I'm not coming any more Whoever said that free software meant that customers couldn't hassle you.. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 9 20:01:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA16944 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 20:01:52 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA16998 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 20:02:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:7027 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11009-682>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 22:01:14 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971065-27857>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 13:10:16 -0400 Received: from heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.32.11]:3259 "HELO heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971115-27857>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:59:13 -0400 Received: from cowslip.cl.cam.ac.uk (cl.cam.ac.uk) [128.232.3.212] (rjb45) by heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yjTLT-0004he-00; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 19:42:07 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2+CL 2/24/98 To: ARM Linux Subject: Re: Xdm In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 09 Jun 1998 14:49:43 BST." <4853856cabdkscully@argonet.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 19:42:04 +0100 From: Richard Bradbury Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Tue, 09 Jun 1998 14:49:43, Dana K Scully wrote: > > May 31 13:37:33 x-files kernel: xrdb: memory violation at pc=0x00c1a638, > lr=0x00015fc0 (bad address=0x6c2a6e69, code 1) > May 31 13:37:33 x-files kernel: xdm: memory violation at pc=0x00c1a638, > lr=0x0002b680 (bad address=0x00000000, code 1) Aha! So it's not just me that gets this. Seems to do the same thing with 2.0.33 and 2.0.34 on my RiscPC 600 (lr value for varies with kernel version). The xdm process seems to survive despite the above errors. Insight anyone? -- R. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 9 20:41:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA17019 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 20:41:41 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA17002 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 20:42:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:32307 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10787-686>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 22:41:11 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971089-27857>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 13:46:33 -0400 Received: from [194.203.5.194] ([194.203.5.194]:1837 "EHLO mail-gw.ionicaplc.com" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971080-27857>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 13:45:58 -0400 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id UAA09344 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 20:29:14 +0100 Received: from ionica(12.0.1.3) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com via smap (V2.0beta) id xma009340; Tue, 9 Jun 98 20:28:55 +0100 Received: from mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk [12.0.8.116]) by ionica.ionica.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA27603 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 20:29:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk (unverified [12.0.15.13]) by mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (Integralis SMTPRS 2.04) with SMTP id ; Tue, 09 Jun 1998 20:28:48 +0100 Received: by camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD93E5.354CA050@camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 20:28:48 +0100 Message-Id: From: Simon Ogilvie To: "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: Installing Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 20:30:08 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Sorry to ask basic questions, but I'm having trouble with a new install... I put a new IDE disk in my machine yesterday with a view to running both RiscOS and ARMLinux from it. I partitioned it as per the Linux installation instructions, and got a Linux kernel booting successfully. I've now got to the RedHat installation program and have got stuck. The installation instructions from Russell's web site are a bit vague at this point, and the instructions I got from Phil Norman's web site about installing off the Clan CD don't help here either, as it doesn't tell you how to get from the X-Files installation on the CD to a ZIP archive. I've got the RedHat/base files on the RiscOS partition, but the installer refuses to accept that I have a correct installation tree. What's the correct way to go about this? The RiscOS partition is working fine by the way, and if I out of the installer I can mount it and the Linux partition without any problems, so the disk must be OK. Any help to get over this would be very gratefully received! Thanks, Simon. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 10 05:33:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA17482 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 05:33:38 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA17100 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 05:34:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:37198 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20166-682>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:33:46 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970842-27857>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 22:37:13 -0400 Received: from [210.154.37.2] ([210.154.37.2]:24141 "EHLO ns.funai-tky.co.jp" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971125-27857>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 22:20:16 -0400 Received: from hiropu.funai-tky.co.jp ([192.168.1.19] (may be forged)) by ns.funai-tky.co.jp (8.8.6/3.4W4-FUNAI-TKY-970730) with SMTP id NAA15623 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:04:20 +0900 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:07:16 +0900 From: hiroshi ishii To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Where is include file for cross-compile? Message-Id: <357E0674352.D41BHIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.24.13 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hello I want to get include file (Ex. stdio.h , stdlib.h .....) for cross-compile. Where do I get these? ------------- Funai Electric Engineering Co.,LTD Hiroshi Ishii e-mail address : hiroshi@funai-tky.co.jp unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 10 06:07:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA17490 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 06:07:13 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA17108 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 06:07:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:19813 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10371-684>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 08:06:15 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971079-27857>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 23:10:33 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:4016 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971146-27857>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 23:08:01 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id FAA29962 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 05:52:09 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 05:54:50 +0100 Message-ID: <3d84a49mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: More stuff on instaling Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Well, here's more on the installing saga... The RPC/SA:- ------------ I've got this machine to install onto ADFS IDE discs by downgrading to 2.0.33 kernels. the problem seems to be that the RPC root disc has 2.0.33 modules on it, and the kernel is 2.0.34. perhaps this should be mentioned on the downloading page? anyway - it went trhough the install downloading happily, and right at the end (looks like the last thing the installer does, judging by the menu), I get a message 'kernel not found' I can now boot from the ADFS discs, by using !Linux -bootkernel <2.0.33 kernel> with the extra parameter root=/dev/hda3 this yields a nearly working linux setup (no network, see below) So, why did that go wrong? anyway, on to the networking - I have an EtherH card. during bootup, it says 'delaying etherH init.' or similar. I assume I need to insmod the 8390.o driver, but what else do I need to do? Anyway, I'll leave that for a while, because the ADFS disc(s) I used are now back in my A5000 where they belong, waiting for the right root set for it to be able to install. I also have a Powertec SCSI III card in my RPC, and a 2 gig seagate drive on it. this is what I hope to install linux on on my RPC. HOWEVER, when I get it to autoprobe the Powertec card (which it seems to think is blacklisted...) I hear a clunk from my 2 scsi devices, and thats it. it hangs. any ideas? the A5000 --------- This machine is (hopefully) only awaiting a new root disc which'll let it boot with some vmemory, and actually start the installer :-) the RPC700 ---------- Misbehaving at the moment - hangs booting one of the 2.0.33 kernels - trying another one later. Any help appreciated! Cya! -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 10 09:14:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA17641 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:14:53 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17130 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:15:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:34610 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10287-686>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:15:08 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971251-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 02:29:55 -0400 Received: from [194.203.5.194] ([194.203.5.194]:1829 "EHLO mail-gw.ionicaplc.com" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971250-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 02:29:32 -0400 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id JAA17479 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:13:57 +0100 Received: from ionica(12.0.1.3) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com via smap (V2.0beta) id xma017476; Wed, 10 Jun 98 09:13:47 +0100 Received: from mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk [12.0.8.116]) by ionica.ionica.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19531 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:13:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk (unverified [12.0.15.13]) by mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (Integralis SMTPRS 2.04) with SMTP id ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:13:45 +0100 Received: by camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD9450.11E00330@camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:13:45 +0100 Message-Id: From: Simon Ogilvie To: "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: RE: Installing Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:15:05 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Some more detail on this. I got the base installation in place using the tar file from Phil's web site. The only RPMs I've got are on the Clan CD, and I can read them with the X-files reader, but copying them into a RiscOS partition truncates the filenames. Even so, when copied over (in batches of 77!) onto the Linux partition the installer recognises them and tries to install from them. I still get a problem later in the install though, when it pops up error dialogue boxes complaining about some of the packages. Unfortunately the packages it complains about include ld.so and kbd, so I guess there's not a lot of point in continuing without them! What I'm not sure about is whether I've got a compatible set of files. The kernel, root and supplemental disks are copied from Russell's web site (I think the kernel is 2.0.33). The RedHat base files are from Phil's web site, and the RPMs are from the Clan CD. Is this OK, or am I trying to mix incompatible versions? The machine by the way is a SA110 RiscPC600 with the Acorn IDE controller (original), 48Mb RAM, and a Quantum Fireball 1.2Gb drive partitioned into RiscOS (450Mb), Linux table (few Kb), Linux root (700Mb) and Linux swap (128Mb). Is that a fair config? Thanks and regards, Simon. >---------- >From: Simon Ogilvie >Sent: 09 June 1998 20:30 >To: 'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu' >Subject: Installing > >Sorry to ask basic questions, but I'm having trouble with a new >install... > >I put a new IDE disk in my machine yesterday with a view to running >both RiscOS and ARMLinux from it. I partitioned it as per the Linux >installation instructions, and got a Linux kernel booting successfully. >I've now got to the RedHat installation program and have got stuck. >The installation instructions from Russell's web site are a bit vague >at this point, and the instructions I got from Phil Norman's web site >about installing off the Clan CD don't help here either, as it doesn't >tell you how to get from the X-Files installation on the CD to a ZIP >archive. > >I've got the RedHat/base files on the RiscOS partition, but the >installer >refuses to accept that I have a correct installation tree. > >What's the correct way to go about this? The RiscOS partition is >working >fine by the way, and if I out of the installer I can mount it >and >the Linux partition without any problems, so the disk must be OK. > >Any help to get over this would be very gratefully received! > >Thanks, >Simon. > > >unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 10 11:52:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA18013 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:52:15 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17173 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:52:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:61741 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19513-686>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:49:21 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971058-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 05:04:08 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:26715 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971189-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 05:03:45 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id LAA17978; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:47:38 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199806101047.LAA17978@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Where is include file for cross-compile? To: hiroshi@funai-tky.co.jp (hiroshi ishii) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:47:35 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <357E0674352.D41BHIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> from "hiroshi ishii" at Jun 10, 98 01:07:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO hiroshi ishii > > Hello > > I want to get include file (Ex. stdio.h , stdlib.h .....) > for cross-compile. Where do I get these? There are two ways; the first is to simply compy them from an already- installed armlinux box. The second is to unpack the libc rpm _and_ the gcc rpm and copy the headers from there. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 10 12:17:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA18163 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:17:54 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17177 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:18:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:25432 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20293-686>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:17:54 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971260-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 05:24:25 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:26745 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971279-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 05:17:51 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id MAA18108; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:01:59 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199806101101.MAA18108@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: More stuff on instaling To: mh120608@cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (Ian Molton) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:01:56 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <3d84a49mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> from "Ian Molton" at Jun 10, 98 05:54:50 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Ian Molton > I've got this machine to install onto ADFS IDE discs by downgrading to > 2.0.33 kernels. the problem seems to be that the RPC root disc has 2.0.33 > modules on it, and the kernel is 2.0.34. perhaps this should be mentioned > on the downloading page? It was mentioned by Russell on this list. > anyway - it went trhough the install downloading happily, and right at the > end (looks like the last thing the installer does, judging by the menu), I > get a message 'kernel not found' > So, why did that go wrong? RTFFAQ. > I also have a Powertec SCSI III card in my RPC, and a 2 gig seagate drive > on it. this is what I hope to install linux on on my RPC. HOWEVER, when I > get it to autoprobe the Powertec card (which it seems to think is > blacklisted...) I hear a clunk from my 2 scsi devices, and thats it. it > hangs. any ideas? You've been told before; this card is not listed as being supported. Hence it is not supported. No-one has written a driver for it yet. The blacklisted stuff is in fact irrelevant; I'm starting to agree with Russell that the driver should not tell you about the loader being blacklisted. How about simply `loader does not support 32 bit mode'? That's less worrying to the user than telling them it's blacklisted, IMO. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 10 12:27:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA18175 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:27:34 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17181 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:28:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:50784 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19689-685>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:27:11 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971263-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 05:41:10 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:5154 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971317-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 05:30:55 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (MAA27246); Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:15:32 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:15:32 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: Simon Ogilvie cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: RE: Installing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Simon Ogilvie wrote: > but copying them into a RiscOS partition truncates the filenames. This doesn't matter at all, although it might be best if you ensure all the files end in .arm.rpm. You can do this with the following line (assuming you're in the same directory as the rpm files): for I in `ls`;do mv $I $I.arm.rpm;done This is from memory - if it's wrong someone please correct it. > Even so, when copied over (in batches of 77!) onto the Linux > partition the installer recognises them and tries to install from > them. I still get a problem later in the install though, when it > pops up error dialogue boxes complaining about some of the > packages. Unfortunately the packages it complains about > include ld.so and kbd, so I guess there's not a lot of point in > continuing without them! For some reason, the installer does put up loads of complaint boxes, although what they're complaining about exactly has always puzzled me. Ignoring these doesn't seem to produce any problems (in fact the PC redhat does the same). Such lines complain about a certain package, giving a line number. If it's just these you're getting ignore them. Tip for getting past these - pressing 'Return' causes the RedHat window manager thingy to make the 'OK' button press down. This takes a small amount of time, and the boxes can be skipped more quickly by using F12 (to go to the next screen). > What I'm not sure about is whether I've got a compatible set > of files. The kernel, root and supplemental disks are copied > from Russell's web site (I think the kernel is 2.0.33). The RedHat > base files are from Phil's web site, and the RPMs are from the > Clan CD. Is this OK, or am I trying to mix incompatible versions? Everything should be fine. As far as I know, the RPMs don't care what version of the kernel you're using (with the exception of ELF RPMs, of which there are none in the armlinux distribution). > The machine by the way is a SA110 RiscPC600 with the Acorn > IDE controller (original), 48Mb RAM, and a Quantum Fireball 1.2Gb > drive partitioned into RiscOS (450Mb), Linux table (few Kb), Linux > root (700Mb) and Linux swap (128Mb). Is that a fair config? I shouldn't think you'll need so much swap. I find it reasonably difficult to use my swap, and I've only got 22M. Unless you're intending to use tons of memory for something, you could probably get away with no swap at all (although having a little is probably wise). -- Sorry, my sig seems to have been randomly deleted today. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 10 12:48:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA18404 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:48:46 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17186 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:49:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:31868 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19495-686>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:48:58 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971295-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 05:57:14 -0400 Received: from [194.203.5.194] ([194.203.5.194]:1096 "EHLO mail-gw.ionicaplc.com" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971339-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 05:55:18 -0400 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id MAA26951 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:40:00 +0100 Received: from ionica(12.0.1.3) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com via smap (V2.0beta) id xma026947; Wed, 10 Jun 98 12:39:58 +0100 Received: from mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk [12.0.8.116]) by ionica.ionica.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25959 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:40:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk (unverified [12.0.15.13]) by mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (Integralis SMTPRS 2.04) with SMTP id ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:39:47 +0100 Received: by camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD946C.DA575FE0@camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:39:47 +0100 Message-Id: From: Simon Ogilvie To: "'Phil Norman'" Cc: "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: RE: Installing Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:41:09 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > >> but copying them into a RiscOS partition truncates the filenames. > >This doesn't matter at all, although it might be best if you ensure >all the files end in .arm.rpm. That's good news! There were a few that resulted in non-unique filenames, but once spotted that's easy to fix. I'll try adding the ..arm.rpm extensions. > >For some reason, the installer does put up loads of complaint boxes, >although what they're complaining about exactly has always puzzled me. >Ignoring these doesn't seem to produce any problems (in fact the PC >redhat does the same). Such lines complain about a certain package, >giving a line number. If it's just these you're getting ignore them. It is indeed just these. That's also very good news - thanks! >Tip for getting past these - pressing 'Return' causes the RedHat window >manager thingy to make the 'OK' button press down. This takes a small >amount of time, and the boxes can be skipped more quickly by using F12 >(to go to the next screen). Yes, that would speed things up a little... I'll try that next time. As it's my "first time" I'm perhaps overcautious about doing things right, and don't want to mess anything up. > >> The machine by the way is a SA110 RiscPC600 with the Acorn >> IDE controller (original), 48Mb RAM, and a Quantum Fireball 1.2Gb >> drive partitioned into RiscOS (450Mb), Linux table (few Kb), Linux >> root (700Mb) and Linux swap (128Mb). Is that a fair config? > >I shouldn't think you'll need so much swap. I find it reasonably >difficult to use my swap, and I've only got 22M. Unless you're intending >to use tons of memory for something, you could probably get away with no >swap at all (although having a little is probably wise). Yes, I guess that's true. I'm new to Linux (does it show? ;-) but not to UNIX, and the usual machines I use at work are HP's with up to 1Gb of memory and 2Gb of swap. I was always advised to try to have twice as much swap as physical RAM, and preferably more, so perhaps I overdid it a bit here! As I've put RiscOS back on the first partition I think I'll leave it as it is now though. Thanks for your help Phil. It seems I'm not as far from a working Linux box as I thought :-) Hopefully I'll complete the install tonight. Thanks, Simon. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 10 12:56:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA18442 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:56:54 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17190 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:57:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:59408 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19513-686>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:57:16 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970854-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 06:11:28 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:27168 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971296-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 06:05:00 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id MAA18410; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:49:07 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199806101149.MAA18410@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Installing To: P.C.F.Norman@exeter.ac.uk (Phil Norman) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:49:06 +0100 (BST) Cc: simon_ogilvie@ionica.co.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Phil Norman" at Jun 10, 98 12:15:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Phil Norman > This doesn't matter at all, although it might be best if you ensure > all the files end in .arm.rpm. You can do this with the following line > (assuming you're in the same directory as the rpm files): > > for I in `ls`;do mv $I $I.arm.rpm;done > > This is from memory - if it's wrong someone please correct it. That would certainly work. I prefer the following: for i in *; do mv $i $i.arm.rpm; done and if you wanted to move them back again: for i in *; do mv $i ${i%%.arm.rpm}; done That last works in bash and (iirc) ksh, but not real sh. Don't even think about it for csh ;-) -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 10 21:30:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA19470 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:30:32 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA17295 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:31:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:24152 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19527-686>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:30:53 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971026-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:55:07 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1275 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971659-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:43:12 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yjqTs-0002z2-00; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:24:20 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: CATS support etc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:24:20 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, Since Russell seems to have gone into hibernation, I thought I'd make a patch containing my current stuff now rather than waiting to see what pops up in his next kernel. Thus: http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/phil/armlinux/patches/linux-diff-980610.gz (against Russell's 2.1.103) The main thing in here is fairly complete support for the CATS board. It also features uaccess changes for both 26-bit and 32-bit machines, generic cache-coherence functions for DMA (though I don't do anything with them yet -- Dave, you might like to have a go at putting the hooks into tulip.c). And, uh, some other stuff I imagine. I hope I haven't broken anything else in the process, but looking through the patch I might have been a bit too reckless with the EBSA-285 keyboard support. Oh well. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 10 21:37:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA19486 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:37:13 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA17299 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:37:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:9825 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20325-686>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:37:24 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971185-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:55:15 -0400 Received: from poseidon.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.34]:37193 "EHLO poseidon.tcp.net.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971662-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:46:10 -0400 Received: from tonyh (du-112.tcp.co.uk [195.80.1.112]) by poseidon.tcp.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8+antispam) with SMTP id UAA22136 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:32:32 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:30:47 +0100 From: Tony Houghton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Configuring resolver Message-ID: <477c285448%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40a for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.21beta MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I thought I'd have a go at setting up a dial-up PPP connection today, but I don't know how to configure /etc/hosts.conf. The resolver and resolv+ man pages are missing. According to rpm -q the man and man-pages RPMs are not installed, but according to rpm -i they are. Even after rpm -i --force the pages I want are still missing. -- \_________________ \ http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~tonyh/ The Curling Pages \ The home of WinEd, Bombz and POPstar for RISC OS unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 10 21:59:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA19538 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:59:24 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA17308 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:59:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:53274 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19681-684>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:59:34 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971330-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:21:45 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:1387 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971498-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:11:55 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id TAA23948 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:58:15 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:01:02 +0100 Message-ID: <425c2fdmh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: More linux... Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I have followed the instructions in question 6 of the FAQ, which appeard to work fine under Linux, but when I went back to RISC OS, to set up the bootloader, which I did, if I then run it, it says: assertion failed ldr != something or other followed by a postmortem. why? -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 10 22:19:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA19568 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:19:48 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA17320 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:20:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:24630 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10395-685>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 00:19:19 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971207-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:24:53 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:1423 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971598-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:17:48 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id UAA16460 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:04:10 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:07:05 +0100 Message-ID: <42650cbmh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: MORE linux :-) Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO How do I make my etherH card work? -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 10 22:50:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA19647 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:50:26 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA17329 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:51:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:44893 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19897-686>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 00:50:49 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970860-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:49:49 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:2069 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971550-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:05:08 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id UAA19404 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:51:06 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199806101951.UAA19404@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: 2.0.34 problems To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:51:05 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I've built myself a 2.0.34 kernel twice now, both hang in the same way; they get to `Now booting the kernel' and then stop. I _suspect_ Russell has left the serial console enabled, but unfortunately I can't remember how to turn it off. If anyone with greater insight than I would like to help, I'd be most grateful. AFAIK Russell is now on holiday so can't fix this himself. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 10 22:59:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA19669 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:59:37 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA17337 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:00:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:48390 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19549-686>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 01:00:04 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971490-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:01:19 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:42362 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971043-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:58:37 -0400 Received: from (illuminated.co.uk) [193.237.154.122] by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yjqnl-00052l-00; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:44:54 +0100 Message-ID: <357EE27C.AAD1FA22@illuminated.co.uk> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:46:04 +0100 From: Sam Kington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ARM Linux mailing list Subject: Compiling Apache 1.3.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, I can't get Apache 1.3.0 to compile (had similar problems with 1.2.6 a white ago). I'm running Linux 2.0.33 on a StrongARM Risc PC, the kernel was compiled by the gcc binary from the ftp site, using the 2.0.33 patches from a month or two ago. Here's the offending bit from make. ===> main gcc -c -I../os/unix -I../include -DLINUX=2 -D__arm -DUSE_HSREGEX http_config.c http_config.c:271: parse error before `module' http_config.c:271: `translate_handler' undeclared here (not in a function) http_config.c:271: initializer element for `method_offsets[0]' is not constant http_config.c:272: parse error before `module' http_config.c:272: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast http_config.c:273: parse error before `module' http_config.c:273: `auth_checker' undeclared here (not in a function) http_config.c:273: initializer element for `method_offsets[2]' is not constant http_config.c:274: parse error before `module' http_config.c:274: `access_checker' undeclared here (not in a function) http_config.c:274: initializer element for `method_offsets[3]' is not constant http_config.c:275: parse error before `module' http_config.c:275: `type_checker' undeclared here (not in a function) http_config.c:275: initializer element for `method_offsets[4]' is not constant http_config.c:276: parse error before `module' http_config.c:276: `fixer_upper' undeclared here (not in a function) http_config.c:276: initializer element for `method_offsets[5]' is not constant http_config.c:277: parse error before `module' http_config.c:277: `logger' undeclared here (not in a function) http_config.c:277: initializer element for `method_offsets[6]' is not constant http_config.c:278: parse error before `module' http_config.c:278: `header_parser' undeclared here (not in a function) http_config.c:278: initializer element for `method_offsets[7]' is not constant http_config.c:279: parse error before `module' http_config.c:279: `post_read_request' undeclared here (not in a function) http_config.c:279: initializer element for `method_offsets[8]' is not constant -- Home page: http://www.illuminated.co.uk/ INWO Homebrew has moved: http://www.illuminated.co.uk/inwo/ Time wounds all heels - Groucho Marx unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 11 01:14:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA20031 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 01:14:31 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA17401 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 01:15:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:3889 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19474-682>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 03:14:19 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970791-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 16:35:02 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:2263 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971276-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:07:45 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id VAA19527; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:53:56 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199806102053.VAA19527@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Configuring resolver To: tonyh@tcp.co.uk (Tony Houghton) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:53:56 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <477c285448%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> from "Tony Houghton" at Jun 10, 98 08:30:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Tony Houghton > > I thought I'd have a go at setting up a dial-up PPP connection today, > but I don't know how to configure /etc/hosts.conf. The resolver and > resolv+ man pages are missing. According to rpm -q the man and man-pages > RPMs are not installed, but according to rpm -i they are. Even after rpm > -i --force the pages I want are still missing. Hmm. I don't have an armlinux box to hand, did you try `man 5 host.conf'? you could download the manpages RPM from the latest RedHat distrib (5.1, i believe) and install that. Failing that, the local /etc/host.conf is set to: order hosts,bind multi on -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 11 01:21:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA20047 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 01:21:24 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA17405 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 01:21:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:3889 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10926-686>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 03:21:18 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971020-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 16:42:10 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1299 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970855-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:40:09 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yjs9h-0003hO-00; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:11:37 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Tony Houghton cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Configuring resolver In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:30:47 BST." <477c285448%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:11:37 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >I thought I'd have a go at setting up a dial-up PPP connection today, >but I don't know how to configure /etc/hosts.conf. The resolver and Presumably you mean /etc/host.conf. It's pretty simple, You probably want something along the lines of... order hosts,bind multi on (assuming hosts.conf isn't some weird libc4 thing I've forgotten about...) p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 11 01:28:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA20060 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 01:28:14 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA17409 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 01:28:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:3889 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19614-684>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 03:28:31 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971451-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 17:05:22 -0400 Received: from [194.203.5.194] ([194.203.5.194]:1026 "EHLO mail-gw.ionicaplc.com" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971456-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:50:47 -0400 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id WAA12108 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:37:55 +0100 Received: from ionica(12.0.1.3) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com via smap (V2.0beta) id xma012105; Wed, 10 Jun 98 22:37:39 +0100 Received: from mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk [12.0.8.116]) by ionica.ionica.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA04856 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:37:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk (unverified [12.0.15.13]) by mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (Integralis SMTPRS 2.04) with SMTP id ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:37:27 +0100 Received: by camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD94C0.58AAEB70@camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:37:27 +0100 Message-Id: From: Simon Ogilvie To: "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: Installing - phase 2! Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:38:47 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO OK, with help from this list I've got passed the problems I was having with my initial install. I took the advice offered and reduced my swap partition size to 20Mb giving me more space on both the RiscOS and Linux partition of the IDE drive. I've now got all the RPMS installed, and the RedHat installer did its thing to the point where I've set a root password. As it says in the FAQ, it stops at this point as it doesn't have a kernel, so I sync'd the disk and rebooted to get out. I then did the !LinConfig bit as it says in the installation instructions (from Russell's web site), but this didn't seem to work. When running the !Linux application I get the error : Error: Invalid bmap magicin first sector of partition I assume this means it can't find a kernel to boot from. If I boot from the initial install kernel it goes into the RedHat installation program as before, and I can break out and mount the disk, and it seems OK, although there is nothing in the /boot directory on the disk. Should there be a kernel file in here? When I run !LinConfig and save the configuration the files in the !Linux app don't seem to get changed although the changes are saved somewhere as the disk light flashes, and the changes are remembered next time I run !LinConfig. Help! What am I doing wrong? Simon. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 11 02:27:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA20118 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 02:27:38 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA17414 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 02:28:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:35920 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20234-686>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 04:28:09 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971034-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:33:18 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:3172 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971683-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 16:40:45 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id XAA19727; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:27:14 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199806102227.XAA19727@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Compiling Apache 1.3.0 To: sam@illuminated.co.uk (Sam Kington) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:27:13 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <357EE27C.AAD1FA22@illuminated.co.uk> from "Sam Kington" at Jun 10, 98 08:46:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Sam Kington > > Hi, > > I can't get Apache 1.3.0 to compile (had similar problems with 1.2.6 a > white ago). I'm running Linux 2.0.33 on a StrongARM Risc PC, the kernel > was compiled by the gcc binary from the ftp site, using the 2.0.33 > patches from a month or two ago. Here's the offending bit from make. > > ===> main > gcc -c -I../os/unix -I../include -DLINUX=2 -D__arm -DUSE_HSREGEX > http_config.c > http_config.c:271: parse error before `module' Well, based on a quick look at the code in question, line 271 uses XtOffset. This isn't a function I'm aware of, so I do `find . -type f |xargs grep XtOffset |less'. I discover it's defined in include/conf.h. So look through that... ah, there it is. For some reason, if __arm is defined, it defines it to be _Offsetof(...) which I can't find defined anywhere. I recommend you todge the Makefile and remove the -D__arm from it; maybe it'll work then? ObWildSpeculation: do you suppose this is a RISCiX hangover? -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 11 02:30:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA20129 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 02:30:36 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA17418 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 02:31:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:35920 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19891-684>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 04:31:03 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971459-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:52:26 -0400 Received: from poseidon.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.34]:39795 "EHLO poseidon.tcp.net.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971883-27857>; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 17:25:18 -0400 Received: from tonyh (du-170.tcp.co.uk [195.80.1.170]) by poseidon.tcp.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8+antispam) with SMTP id AAA03596 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 00:12:29 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 00:07:40 +0100 From: Tony Houghton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Configuring resolver Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40a for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.21beta MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO In message Philip Blundell wrote: > >I thought I'd have a go at setting up a dial-up PPP connection today, > >but I don't know how to configure /etc/hosts.conf. The resolver and > > Presumably you mean /etc/host.conf. It's pretty simple, You probably want > something along the lines of... > > order hosts,bind > multi on What I meant was resolv.conf. But I found a couple of good HOW-TOs on sunsite, so that shouldn't be a problem now ...If only I get the modules problem sorted :-(. -- \_________________ \ http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~tonyh/ The Curling Pages \ The home of WinEd, Bombz and POPstar for RISC OS unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 11 09:30:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA20299 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:30:04 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17457 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:30:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:21589 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10722-686>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:23:06 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971569-27857>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 02:34:18 -0400 Received: from pyramid.businessmonitor.co.uk ([194.205.10.2]:3979 "EHLO pyramid.businessmonitor.co.uk" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971640-27857>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 02:33:59 -0400 Received: from datacash.com by pyramid.businessmonitor.co.uk (8.8.7/businessmonitor1.3) id JAA07251; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:14:39 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <357F9524.463F8E5D@datacash.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:28:20 +0100 From: Sam Kington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.30 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ARM Linux mailing list Subject: Re: Compiling Apache 1.3.0 References: <199806102227.XAA19727@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > ===> main > > gcc -c -I../os/unix -I../include -DLINUX=2 -D__arm -DUSE_HSREGEX > > http_config.c > > http_config.c:271: parse error before `module' > > Well, based on a quick look at the code in question, line 271 uses > XtOffset. This isn't a function I'm aware of, so I do > `find . -type f |xargs grep XtOffset |less'. I discover it's defined in > include/conf.h. So look through that... ah, there it is. For some > reason, if __arm is defined, it defines it to be _Offsetof(...) which > I can't find defined anywhere. I recommend you todge the Makefile and > remove the -D__arm from it; maybe it'll work then? Nope; makes no difference. It didn't originally *have* the __arm flag in; I added it in after looking through conf.h and finding the #ifdef __arm. Made no difference at all. Bleargh. Sam -- Home page: http://www.illuminated.co.uk/ INWO Homebrew: http://www.illuminated.co.uk/inwo/ Not my employer's opinion, no snappy quote unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 11 10:46:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA20359 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:46:45 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17471 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:47:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:4416 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10515-686>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 12:47:12 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971673-27857>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 03:58:12 -0400 Received: from man01.cogency.co.uk ([195.153.128.51]:40647 "HELO mailhost.cogency.co.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971669-27857>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 03:58:02 -0400 Received: from cogency.co.uk by mailhost.cogency.co.uk (SMI-8.6/PIPEX simple 1.27) id KAA23711; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:46:27 +0100 Message-ID: <357FA746.71EA1D93@cogency.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:45:43 +0100 From: David Alan Gilbert Organization: Cogency Technology Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philip Blundell , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: CATS support etc References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Philip Blundell wrote: > > Hi, > > Since Russell seems to have gone into hibernation, Malta actually for a couple of weeks. > I hope I haven't broken anything else in the process, but looking through the > patch I might have been a bit too reckless with the EBSA-285 keyboard support. > Oh well. Keyboard support - is that using an add on board on the X-Bus or something? (Heck a keyboard would be really useful; if it was just to be able to use Sysrq to find out whats going on!!) Dave -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Dr. David Alan Gilbert - WARNING! This is a beta release .signature- - Work: dg @ cogency.co.uk - +44-(0)161-428-9444 - - Home: gro.gilbert @ treblig.org - - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 11 11:02:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA20368 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:02:28 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17484 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:03:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:21064 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10577-684>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:03:02 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971689-27857>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 04:13:42 -0400 Received: from heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.32.11]:1807 "HELO heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971688-27857>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 04:13:31 -0400 Received: from cowslip.cl.cam.ac.uk (cl.cam.ac.uk) [128.232.3.212] (rjb45) by heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yk4BA-0005cs-00; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:01:57 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2+CL 2/24/98 To: ARM Linux Subject: Re: Compiling Apache 1.3.0 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:28:20 BST." <357F9524.463F8E5D@datacash.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:01:55 +0100 From: Richard Bradbury Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:28:20, Sam Kington wrote: > > > Well, based on a quick look at the code in question, line 271 uses > > XtOffset. This isn't a function I'm aware of, so I do > > `find . -type f |xargs grep XtOffset |less'. I discover it's defined in > > include/conf.h. So look through that... ah, there it is. Isn't XtOffset an X Toolkit function from /usr/include/X11/Intrinsic.h? -- Richard. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 11 11:51:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA20427 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:51:55 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17493 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:52:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:32344 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10740-682>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:50:41 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971718-27857>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 04:58:40 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:3143 "HELO globe" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971769-27857>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 04:56:51 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yk4qN-0005Rf-00; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:44:31 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yk4qM-0001XW-00; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:44:30 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: David Alan Gilbert cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: CATS support etc In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:45:43 BST." <357FA746.71EA1D93@cogency.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:44:29 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >Keyboard support - is that using an add on board on the X-Bus or something? No - CATS has a standard PC keyboard controller built into its super IO chip (which sits on the PCI bus). As far as I know we don't use the X-Bus for anything - I have a suspicion maybe the 21285 PCI arbiter is used. Neil probably knows. I think there are patches in the CVS tree to allow you to do magic sysreq over a serial line which might help you. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 11 13:04:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA20618 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:04:05 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17514 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:04:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:12860 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10485-684>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 15:04:32 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971801-27857>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 06:15:09 -0400 Received: from cptsg4.univ-mrs.fr ([139.124.7.104]:9579 "HELO cptsg4" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971797-27857>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 06:14:41 -0400 Received: from cptsg4 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cptsg4 (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA26591; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:00:17 +0200 Message-ID: <357FC6D1.167E@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:00:17 +0200 From: Vincent PENNE Organization: Centre de Physique Theorique de Marseille X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01S (X11; I; IRIX64 6.2 IP28) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philip Blundell CC: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ELF References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Philip Blundell wrote: > > Hi, > > I've made an initial beta release of the ELF toolset. The release notes are > appended to this message. Enjoy. > > Kudos should be given to Pat Beirne and Scott Bambrough, who did much of the > hard work that was needed to get ELF running. Also, thanks to Deborah Wallach > for her help with testing the development versions of glibc, and to Lee Smith > for acting as our contact in the ARM software team. > > p. I have tried the new binutils with the patch for ARM. It seems to be broken for aout format. When I compile a simple hello world program, the program does not actually crash, but it print something like "llo world !" instead of the right string ... Vincent PENNE. -- /==========================================================\ | Vincent PENNE, Centre de Physique Theorique | |Tel. (0033)4 91 26 95 04 CNRS - LUMINY - Case 907 | |Fax. (0033)4 91 26 95 53 F-13288 MARSEILLE CEDEX 9 | |Email: penne@cpt.univ-mrs.fr FRANCE | |http://www.cpt.univ-mrs.fr | \==========================================================/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 11 13:42:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA20704 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:42:30 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17518 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:42:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:6216 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10911-685>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 15:30:10 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971827-27857>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 06:29:57 -0400 Received: from server2.rad.net.id ([202.154.1.5]:49239 "EHLO server2.rad.net.id" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971797-27857>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 06:29:11 -0400 Received: from AncientChinese (leanne@dyn3015a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.44.15]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.8.5/RADNET) with SMTP id TAA24862; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 19:17:17 +0700 (WIB) X-Organization: Leonard Advanced Research, Inc X-Security: Approved - 6th Level GxDA32HCXxd2SD32Px Message-Id: <4.0.1.19980611191308.00e7f920@server2.rad.net.id> X-Sender: ong@server2.rad.net.id (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 19:16:51 +0700 From: Leonard Ong Subject: Proposal(2) Promoting Linux in our Country Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: unlisted-recipients:; (no To-header on input) X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Dear Friends, I hope that every linux-user would give their time a few minute to acknowledge the difficulties that we have in our country. We hope that linux community can help us in any form that agree with the spirit of Linux. Previous Proposal to Linux Distribution Manufacturers : >Please read the following email with open heart and open mind. We are >thankful for your brief time and attention given to this email. > >First of all, I would like to introduce myself. I am Leonard Ong, the >President Director of Leonard Advanced Research, Inc. We are a non-profit >organization that specialized in Researchs involving Computer techonolgy >and encouraging also motivating the use of Computer to all people. > >Since Indonesia has been developing country, not everyone could afford to >buy a computer system and their peripherals. One proof of this is the level >of piracy software. With recent development before the currency crisis took >place, we have been very successful in motivating computer system use in >national-wide. This is proved by huge increase in computer hardware >selling, and drops in software piracy level. > >Until recently, due to monetary crisis, we are changing our course to free >Operating System Such as Linux. We are aware although LInux is free, we >have to pay some amount to the distribution-maker. If the monetary crisis >have not took place, we would be able to afford a LInux Distribution. With >the current condition where US Dollar has increased its value up to 600 >percent of original value, we are unable to buy even a single distribution >as sample for our cause. Say 1 USD used to be 2250 rupiahs, now it's 13000 >rupiahs. Increased ( 600 Percent meaning our local currency is 17 percent of original value ) > >As you might now that we are non-profit organization. Since we can't >afford to pay you a copy, I would like to ask the probability of having a >complete set of your distribution donated to our organization. It would >take only a distribution set for our cause of promoting the use of linux to >be on the way. > >So please with open heart and open mind, would you consider our proposal. >We know that it may be only a single set for you, but it means a tremendous >boost for our cause. I believe that Linux was created in the first place by >the spirit of togetherness and not merely commercial point of view alone. > >We can not repay you in money, but should things ( economic conditions ) >improve, there might be a lot of companies or hobbiest or individuals that >interested in linux. That way they surely will order directly for your >distribution. > >Should you be very kind to agree sending us a complete set of your >distribution, please send it to : > > >Thank you. > > >======= >Leonard Advanced Reseach, Inc >842234.2356/ABD/234LA/980317/AHSG131 That letter was sent to various manufacturer and we got some responses of good will and contributions. We are grateful of this, but we hope that we could some help more. Until this moment, our organization has recieve some donation in form of each distribution of Infomagic, LSL, ChepBytes. >From the seminars, exibitions that we held, it is known to us that the response toward linux is very suprising. We manage to acknowledge the transistion of DOS/Win/SunOS to Linux among many of our prospect. I, myself, do not really know what distribution they use since they are ordering themselves for the CD ( we're non profit so don't handle sales. ) The point is, that we would ask for help in linux community for such resources available : 1) other distribustion that Our organization doesn't currrently have ( we currently have RedHat 5.0 basic, Suse 5.1 basic, Slackware 3.4, and Debian 1.3.1. basic ) 2) customized CDs that contains big programs in linux e.g. StarOffice,etc or linux utilities that are no in standard tsx or sunsite archives ( We can't d/l, very expensive ) 3) CDs that contains various text beside LDP or Howtos 4) Hardprinted manual books / linux reference / linux books 5) linux related books Those above-listed things could be things that you do not use anymore, old books, or things that you have more that you use. These things can enrich our resources to linux, providing our community a place to learn linux more, to move to linux, etc. If you are interested in contributing please contact me directly. Thank you. Sorry for inconvinience caused of this email. Sincerely Yours, Leonard Ong /-------------------S--I--G--N--A--T--U--R--E-------------------------\ | Leonard Ong - Share your Knowledge with me !! | | E-Mail Addrs : mailto:Leonard_Ong@poboxes.com (For Correspondence)| | mailto:HelpDesk@rad.net.id (Internet Course Q/A) | | mailto:Leonard_Ong@biosys.net (Archive Only) | | HomePage : http://www.poboxes.com/Leonard_Ong | | UIN (ICQ) : 1041402 || IRC : DalNet, EFNet -- #Leonard | \---------------------------------------------------------------------/ PGP encrypted and/or signed Messages preferred, Please send me your public key ( signed ), Thank you. | PGP Public : Send Email with subject "get public key" without | | Key Quotes, the body will be ignored | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 11 13:42:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA20708 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:42:37 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17521 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:43:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:6216 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10556-682>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 15:41:23 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971839-27857>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 06:49:30 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:7330 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971844-27857>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 06:34:43 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id NAA20653; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:22:27 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199806111222.NAA20653@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Compiling Apache 1.3.0 To: sam@datacash.com (Sam Kington) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:22:27 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <357F9524.463F8E5D@datacash.com> from "Sam Kington" at Jun 11, 98 09:28:20 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Sam Kington > > Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > > ===> main > > > gcc -c -I../os/unix -I../include -DLINUX=2 -D__arm -DUSE_HSREGEX > > > http_config.c > > > http_config.c:271: parse error before `module' > > > > Well, based on a quick look at the code in question, line 271 uses > > XtOffset. This isn't a function I'm aware of, so I do > > `find . -type f |xargs grep XtOffset |less'. I discover it's defined in > > include/conf.h. So look through that... ah, there it is. For some > > reason, if __arm is defined, it defines it to be _Offsetof(...) which > > I can't find defined anywhere. I recommend you todge the Makefile and > > remove the -D__arm from it; maybe it'll work then? > > Nope; makes no difference. It didn't originally *have* the __arm flag > in; I added it in after looking through conf.h and finding the #ifdef > __arm. Made no difference at all. Bleargh. Hmm. It might be one of those things which is predefined by the compiler; I forget which things are. How about frobbing conf.h to take the test for __arm out? -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 11 13:54:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA20713 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:54:33 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17526 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:55:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:6216 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11066-686>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 15:43:34 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971805-27857>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 06:49:39 -0400 Received: from [194.203.5.194] ([194.203.5.194]:1229 "EHLO mail-gw.ionicaplc.com" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971845-27857>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 06:35:35 -0400 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id NAA29819 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:23:55 +0100 Received: from ionica(12.0.1.3) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com via smap (V2.0beta) id xma029787; Thu, 11 Jun 98 13:23:35 +0100 Received: from mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk [12.0.8.116]) by ionica.ionica.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04480 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:23:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk (unverified [12.0.15.13]) by mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (Integralis SMTPRS 2.04) with SMTP id ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:23:24 +0100 Received: by camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD953C.1C7AACE0@camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:23:24 +0100 Message-Id: From: Simon Ogilvie To: "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: RE: Installing - phase 2! Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:24:47 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I wrote: >Error: Invalid bmap magicin first sector of partition It appears I committed the ultimate sin of asking a documented FAQ - sorry! I had read the FAQ but when your new to all of this, something that you haven't yet come across has no meaning and gets forgotten very easily. What I should have done was re-read the FAQ, and I will certainly do that if I come across any other problems, before posting to this list! Thanks to those who gently pointed this out to me off list! Hopefully I should have a working installation by the end of the day :-) Simon. > > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 11 14:05:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA20728 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:05:02 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17530 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:05:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:31026 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10376-686>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 16:02:38 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971841-27857>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 07:08:42 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:4105 "HELO globe" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971815-27857>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 07:08:26 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yk6YM-0005Yh-00; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:34:02 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yk6YL-0001gW-00; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:34:01 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Vincent PENNE cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ELF In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:00:17 +0200." <357FC6D1.167E@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:34:00 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >I have tried the new binutils with the patch for ARM. It seems to be >broken for aout format. When I compile a simple hello world program, the >program does not actually crash, but it print something like "llo world >!" instead of the right string ... It's quite possible. Can you try to narrow down the problem? p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 11 16:42:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA20868 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 16:42:30 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17554 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 16:43:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:61991 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10739-682>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 18:42:20 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971918-27857>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:52:53 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:4332 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971917-27857>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:50:26 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id QAA08130 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 16:39:12 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 16:42:12 +0100 Message-ID: <497652amh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: I dunno if my other post got out, but as I cant see it, here goes... Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I dont know how to make linux speak to my EtherH - it says somethjing about delaying EtherH initialisation... Also, I cant get the bootloader to behave itself - I did the stuff detailed in Q6 of the FAQ with loadmap, but the bootloader crashes with an error about an assert ldr->0 or something. Thanks. -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 11 21:19:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA21360 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:19:08 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA17589 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:19:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:32072 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20316-682>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 23:18:34 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <972049-27857>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:28:33 -0400 Received: from [194.203.5.194] ([194.203.5.194]:1062 "EHLO mail-gw.ionicaplc.com" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <972043-27857>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:24:27 -0400 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id VAA13079 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:13:27 +0100 Received: from ionica(12.0.1.3) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com via smap (V2.0beta) id xma013075; Thu, 11 Jun 98 21:13:00 +0100 Received: from mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk [12.0.8.116]) by ionica.ionica.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA15753 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:13:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk (unverified [12.0.15.13]) by mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (Integralis SMTPRS 2.04) with SMTP id ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:12:55 +0100 Received: by camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD957D.B3806A30@camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:12:55 +0100 Message-Id: From: Simon Ogilvie To: "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: Installing - phase 3 (the saga continues!) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:14:16 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Right, got through the next hurdle, only to find another one lurking beyond it! I copied the kernel file in as /vmlinux, created a /etc/boot.conf file and ran the loadmap -v command to create the /boot/boot.map file (after linking /dev/root to /dev/hda3). So far so good... Then I tried to boot the system, and it correctly identifies the kernel and then crashes when it tries to load it! The messages go like this: .... VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. INIT: version 2.64 booting Bad mode in prefetch abort handler detected: mode SVC_32 Internal error: Oops: 0 CPU: 0 pc : [] lr : [] .... and then goes on to dump the register contents and give a backtrace. The machine then stiffs and requires a reset switch to get it back. Incidentally, the same thing happens if I boot from the kernel in the adfs partition and specify root=/dev/hda3 at the bootloader optional parameter prompt. Any ideas anyone? I've checked the FAQ this time, and I don't seem to be able to find this problem there. It did mention something about incompatible expansion cards, but I don't think that can be it can it? I've got a (blacklisted) Oak SCSI card, a Scanlight Video256 card and an Acorn MIDI podule, all of which are irrelevant as far as Linux is concerned. Once again, any help much appreciated! Thanks, Simon. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 12 01:35:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA21670 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 01:35:38 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA17647 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 01:36:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:58236 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19834-682>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 03:35:39 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <972147-27857>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 18:41:58 -0400 Received: from zaz.kom.auc.dk ([130.225.51.10]:59765 "HELO zaz.kom.auc.dk" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <972146-27857>; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 18:40:01 -0400 Received: from ppp-6.aua.auc.dk (janm.kom.auc.dk) [130.225.192.72] by zaz.kom.auc.dk with smtp (Exim 1.80 #1) id 0ykHiX-0001OG-00; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 02:29:18 +0200 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 02:27:11 +0200 From: Jan Magnussen Subject: Problems with 2.0.34 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Quercus. Denmark. X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.26] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hello there I have compiled the 2.0.34 kernel for my own system with Powertec and etherh support built into the kernel, but I cannot get either of them to work. Here is what my kernel writes on startup: Console: colour A-series 160x128x256, 1 virtual console (max 63) Installed expansion cards: 0: [0046:00D4] EtherLan 500 interface (00:c0:32:00:1d:63) 1: [005B:0107] AlSystems PowerTec SCSI (loader blacklisted) Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 152.37 BogoMIPS Memory: 47028k/49152k available (860k kernel code, 36k reserved, 1228k data) Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0 NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.035. Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.034 IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP Linux version 2.0.34 (root@janm.stud.kom.auc.dk) (gcc version 2.7.2.2) #2 Mon Jun 8 16:48:34 MET DST 1998 Starting kswapd v 1.4.2.2 Keyboard driver v1.00 Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 10) is a 16550A lp2 at 0x0278, (polling) Sound initialization started at 0x000 irq 20 dma 7,0 Sound initialization complete hda: Conner Peripherals 540MB - CFS541A, 516MB w/0kB Cache, CHS=1048/16/63 ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 9 Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M, fd1 is 1.44M FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077 scsi0.H: fas216: bus reset detected scsi0 : PowerTec SCSI at port 800D1000 irq 33 dma 3 v0.0.2 scsi NCR53C9x terminators on scsi : 1 host. scsi0.3: using synchronous transfer, offset 7, 100 ns Vendor: QUANTUM Model: FIREBALL ST4.3S Rev: 0F0C Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 TAG Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 3, lun 0 scsi0.4: using synchronous transfer, offset 7, 100 ns Vendor: CONNER Model: CFP1080S Rev: 4649 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 TAG Detected scsi disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id 4, lun 0 scsi0.6: using synchronous transfer, offset 7, 200 ns Vendor: MATSHITA Model: CD-ROM CR-504 Rev: ST23 Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 6, lun 0 scsi : detected 1 SCSI cdrom 2 SCSI disks total. scsi0.H: incomplete data transfer detected: res=00000000 ptr=c2ff3000 len=200 command=Test Unit Ready 00 00 00 00 00 SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 8471232 [4136 MB] [4.1 GB] scsi0.H: incomplete data transfer detected: res=00000000 ptr=c2ff3000 len=200 command=Test Unit Ready 00 00 00 00 00 SCSI device sdb: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 2110812 [1030 MB] [1.0 GB] eth0: etherh 500 found at 80000000, IRQ32, ether address 00:c0:32:00:1d:63 10BaseT Partition check: sda: [PTEC] sda1 sda2 sda3 sdb:<3>scsi0.H: incomplete data transfer detected: res=00000000 ptr=c021e7fc len=4 command=Read (6) 00 00 00 02 00 [PTEC] sdb1 hda: [ADFS] hda1 [Linux] hda2 < hda3 hda4 > VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. FPEmulator V4.07 (c) Acorn Computers Ltd. Ported to ARM Linux by Russell King. Disclaimer: (this message can be removed by: insmod fpem.o license=0) The software is provided "as is"; Acorn Computers Limited ("Acorn") makes no warranty, express or implied, of the merchantability of this software or its fitness for any particular purpose. In no circumstance shall Acorn be liable for any damage, loss of profits, or any indirect or consequential loss arising out of the use of this software or inability to use this software, even if Acorn has been advised of the possibility of such loss. Adding Swap: 36432k swap-space (priority 283) fcntl_setlk() called by process 85 (syslogd) with broken flock() emulation ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- There is something very wrong with the etherh driver, because now it says, that I am using a 10BaseT connection, but I am using 10Base2. I, until very reasantly used 10BaseT, but then the driver said, that it was a 10Base2 connection, that I was using. Either way I have not been able to get in contact with any other computer on the network from Linux. It works fine using RiscOS. Here is the output from ifconfig if it can help solving the mystery. lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3584 Metric:1 RX packets:106 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 TX packets:106 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 eth0 Link encap:10Mbps Ethernet HWaddr 00:C0:32:00:1D:63 inet addr:192.255.0.115 Bcast:192.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:746 overruns:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 Interrupt:32 Memory:80000200-d4 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Also most of the time, when I try to mount any of the SCSI disks, the computer freezes completely and requires a hard reset. I will be most grateful, if anybody could find out what is wrong, as I need it badly. (Network using Risc OS sucks:-( ) Regards, Jan Magnussen http://www.kom.auc.dk/~janm Fidonet : 2:234/181.8 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 12 07:47:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA21922 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 07:47:51 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17707 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 07:48:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:5892 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19885-686>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 09:48:25 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971010-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 00:58:26 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:1167 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971061-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 00:58:10 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth196.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.196]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id HAA09247 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 07:47:45 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 07:51:15 +0100 Message-ID: <4ea9ebamh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: MORE more more linux... Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Well, here we go again... I've got x running, and can make my ether h card talk to the net, although it still wont talk by default, I have to insmod it by hand, and then ifconfig and route it... Where can I download netscape for ARMlinux? it doesnt seem to be in the RPMS... also, how do I remove users (I adduser'd one, and dunno how to get rid of it) one last point - I cant compile Circlemud - cc complains that it cant find a file, errno.h, although it /is/ present.... Any ideas? PS. thanks for all the help so far... I'm getting somewhere now, honest! -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 12 08:36:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA21944 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 08:36:58 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17712 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 08:37:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:8240 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19764-684>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 10:36:58 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971095-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 01:46:50 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:1261 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971110-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 01:44:07 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id IAA14456 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 08:33:41 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 08:37:06 +0100 Message-ID: <4eed167mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: AAAARGH! Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Ok - I just cocked up the modules thing with the knackered insmod. I cant reduce my machine to sub 32Mb, so could someone tell me /how/ to tell the kernel I only have 16Megs of memory? Perhaps the FAQ should say /how/ to do this? Ta! -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 12 10:29:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA22021 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 10:29:54 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17732 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 10:30:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:31608 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19993-686>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:28:56 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971182-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 03:32:49 -0400 Received: from frosch.intern ([195.35.6.2]:1933 "EHLO frosch.all.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971220-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 03:26:22 -0400 Received: from bolzen.denic.net (root@bolzen.in-berlin.de [194.94.235.1]) by frosch.all.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA19610 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:16:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from yoda!yoda.in-berlin.de!voss@bolzen.denic.net) Received: by bolzen.denic.net (Smail3.2) from yoda with uucp id ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:15:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by yoda.in-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1 #0) id m0ykRdY-000000C; Fri, 12 Jun 98 09:04 GMT Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 10:41:28 +0200 From: Stefan Voss To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: MORE more more linux... Message-ID: <33b6f45448%voss@yoda.in-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <4ea9ebamh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Organization: Individual Network (IN), Berlin, Germany X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40b for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO In message <4ea9ebamh120608@staffs.ac.uk>, Ian Molton wrote: > > I've got x running, and can make my ether h card talk to the net, although > it still wont talk by default, I have to insmod it by hand, and then > ifconfig and route it... You insmod EtherH support? I'd suggest you compile your own kernel with EtherH support built in. Once I had compiled such a kernel here's how I configured my EtherH: 1. Create a file /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 which looks like this: DEVICE=eth0 IPADDR= NETMASK= NETWORK= BROADCAST= ONBOOT=yes 2. Modify /etc/sysconfig/network to look like this: NETWORKING=yes HOSTNAME= GATEWAY= > > Where can I download netscape for ARMlinux? it doesnt seem to be in the > RPMS... I don't think there's such a thing. Or has anybody compiled QtScape or Cyptozilla successfully for ARMLinux? > > also, how do I remove users (I adduser'd one, and dunno how to get rid of > it) Use vipw as root and delete the user's passwd entry. > > one last point - I cant compile Circlemud - cc complains that it cant find > a file, errno.h, although it /is/ present.... No idea. Header files in /usr/include are usually included by '#include '. If the errno.h file is in the application sources and is included by '#include "errno.h"' your compiler options may be wrong. "gcc -I ..." e.g. tells gcc to look in for header files. Regards, Stefan -- Stefan Voss (voss@yoda.in-berlin.de) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 12 10:55:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA22051 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 10:55:40 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17737 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 10:56:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:62008 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20046-685>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:56:18 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971206-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 04:05:57 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:9810 "HELO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971204-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 04:05:46 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ykQRp-0006fe-00; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 10:48:37 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ykQRo-0002zT-00; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 10:48:36 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Ian Molton cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: AAAARGH! In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 12 Jun 1998 08:37:06 BST." <4eed167mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 10:48:35 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >I cant reduce my machine to sub 32Mb, so could someone tell me /how/ to >tell the kernel I only have 16Megs of memory? Try adding a `mem=...' option to the command line. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 12 12:15:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA22204 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:15:23 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17750 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:16:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14868 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20377-686>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 14:16:01 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971269-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 05:25:25 -0400 Received: from cptsg4.univ-mrs.fr ([139.124.7.104]:11147 "HELO cptsg4" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971254-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 05:25:22 -0400 Received: from cptsg4 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cptsg4 (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA29432; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 13:12:17 +0200 Message-ID: <35810D11.167E@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 13:12:17 +0200 From: Vincent PENNE Organization: Centre de Physique Theorique de Marseille X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01S (X11; I; IRIX64 6.2 IP28) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philip Blundell CC: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ELF References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Philip Blundell wrote: > > >I have tried the new binutils with the patch for ARM. It seems to be > >broken for aout format. When I compile a simple hello world program, the > >program does not actually crash, but it print something like "llo world > >!" instead of the right string ... > > It's quite possible. Can you try to narrow down the problem? > > p. Yes : the problem is in gas. When I use binutils from the patched version for ARM-ELF, and gas from the version 2.9.1.0.6 but not patched for ARM-ELF, all come back to the normal. I can also use more early version of gas (like the one in the pre-compiled distribution), which works as well. Vincent Penne. -- /==========================================================\ | Vincent PENNE, Centre de Physique Theorique | |Tel. (0033)4 91 26 95 04 CNRS - LUMINY - Case 907 | |Fax. (0033)4 91 26 95 53 F-13288 MARSEILLE CEDEX 9 | |Email: penne@cpt.univ-mrs.fr FRANCE | |http://www.cpt.univ-mrs.fr | \==========================================================/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 12 12:38:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA22209 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:38:48 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17761 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:39:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:15384 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11220-684>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 14:39:32 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971282-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 05:48:58 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:11146 "HELO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971254-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 05:48:37 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ykS24-0006uD-00; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:30:08 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ykS22-0000CR-00; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:30:06 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Vincent PENNE cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ELF In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 12 Jun 1998 13:12:17 +0200." <35810D11.167E@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:30:06 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >Yes : the problem is in gas. When I use binutils from the patched >version for ARM-ELF, and gas from the version 2.9.1.0.6 but not patched >for ARM-ELF, all come back to the normal. I can also use more early >version of gas (like the one in the pre-compiled distribution), which >works as well. OK. Can you mail me the files you're using; the .S file and the bad .o file? p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 12 12:56:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA22256 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:56:28 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17766 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:57:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:19744 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10368-685>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 14:57:13 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971287-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 06:06:41 -0400 Received: from [194.203.5.194] ([194.203.5.194]:1373 "EHLO mail-gw.ionicaplc.com" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971284-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 06:06:26 -0400 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id MAA29367 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:56:36 +0100 Received: from ionica(12.0.1.3) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com via smap (V2.0beta) id xma029358; Fri, 12 Jun 98 12:56:29 +0100 Received: from mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk [12.0.8.116]) by ionica.ionica.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13753 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:56:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk (unverified [12.0.15.13]) by mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (Integralis SMTPRS 2.04) with SMTP id ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:56:17 +0100 Received: by camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD9601.7D1F7830@camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:56:17 +0100 Message-Id: From: Simon Ogilvie To: "'Philip Blundell'" Cc: "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: RE: Installing - phase 3 (the saga continues!) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:57:20 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Philip Blundell wrote: >By the looks of it some module branched to a wild address. The strange thing >is that it seems to happen before I'd expect any modules to have been loaded >(excepting maybe the FP emulator). > >The kernel's already running by that point (and you can probably boot with >the >"init=/bin/sh" option and get to a prompt...) but something is happening that >makes it fall over when it tries to start userland. I'll try that tonight. Is that just specified at the optional parameters prompt? > >You could try taking them out in any case; there may be some bad interaction >going on. The Scanlight in particular is probably quite rare and it may be >nobody has run Linux on a machine with one before. OK, I'll try that too. Presumably if it does turn out to be one of them, it can be blacklisted to that I don't have to keep pulling it out when I want to run Linux, and putting it back in when I want to use it...? > >Can you remember which modules you selected during installation? Umm, not sure - it's all a bit hazy! What part of the installation process is that exactly?! Thanks, Simon. > > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 12 18:11:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA22663 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 18:11:42 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA17838 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 18:12:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:53321 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20188-685>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 20:12:18 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971647-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:21:12 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:57063 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971617-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:21:02 -0400 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.162]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA18572 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 19:11:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf1) id AA33964; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 19:11:11 +0200 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 19:11:09 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: SCSI driver Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, I've tried to write a scsi driver for my ARXE 16-bit SCSI card ( no problem, it uses the well known fas216 chip in pseudo_dma mode, but has no interrupts so you need to poll it yourself until command is completed) and came along some very strange things. Reading works very fine, when probing the bus fas216-driver complains about "incomplete data transfer detected..." (as usual in fasdma_pio mode) but all works well. The strange things happen when WRITE is enabled & done. If you've got a writable partition (ext2, msdos...) on your scsi disc, you savely can copy to/from the scsi disc. e2fsck & mke2fs return some error like "Kernel stack corrupted. Aiee!!!" which is true (believe me, I'm happy if I still can shutdown) and tar makes the kernel hang with interrupts enabled (cursor still flashes, vt switching works, but you can't do anything else). I've checked my code over and over again and it's most unlikely that there's something wrong since it uses all the same routines for read & writes and ONLY the actual transfer (r/w bytes from mem/chip) is done separately, the datapointers are updated by the same routine again. So I came to the conclusion that there are two possibilities left: 1.) Buggy scsi highlevel driver (which is mostly arch independent) 2.) Buggy highlevel-lowlevel driver interface I'm using kernel v2.0.33 with patches from around 15-04-1998. Anybody's got some help??? (I've just downloaded the most recent kernel patches and will try again if that's what you'd answer.) ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 12 18:17:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA22668 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 18:17:28 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA17842 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 18:18:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:19024 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19927-682>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 20:18:09 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971617-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:27:10 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:58512 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971572-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:25:57 -0400 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.162]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA18926 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 19:16:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf1) id AA27698; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 19:16:19 +0200 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 19:16:19 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: RE: MuPAD Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi out there, I've mailed to mupad.de again and have reached somebody there. They answered that they will see if they can port MuPAD (MUlti Processing Algebra Data tool - would be the first of it's kind for ARM machines) to ARMLinux. Maybe physic students who've decided to own an ARM will be able to do more than just compile kernels under ARMLinux. ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 12 20:15:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA22826 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 20:15:41 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA17861 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 20:16:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:51529 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20221-685>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 22:15:22 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971784-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:58:46 -0400 Received: from poseidon.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.34]:36867 "EHLO poseidon.tcp.net.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971942-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:31:04 -0400 Received: from tonyh (du-089.tcp.co.uk [195.80.1.89]) by poseidon.tcp.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8+antispam) with SMTP id SAA15732 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 18:24:31 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 17:03:06 +0100 From: Tony Houghton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Xdm Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199806091826.TAA16889@odie.barnet.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40a for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.21beta MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO In message <199806091826.TAA16889@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Matthew Wilcox wrote: > Dana K Scully > > > > On 08 Jun, Richard Bradbury wrote: > > > Anybody out there using xdm successfully? > > > > good question. > > > > I'm getting the following when I try to use it. > > [extract from /var/log/messages] > > > > May 31 13:37:15 x-files kernel: fcntl_setlk() called by process 86 > > (syslogd) with broken flock() emulation > > That one's nothing to worry about. It will go away when we move to > glibc. I see something like that each time I boot, but, as you say, it seems harmless. > > May 31 13:37:33 x-files kernel: xrdb: memory violation at pc=0x00c1a638, > > lr=0x00015fc0 (bad address=0x6c2a6e69, code 1) > > May 31 13:37:33 x-files kernel: xdm: memory violation at pc=0x00c1a638, > > lr=0x0002b680 (bad address=0x00000000, code 1) > > > > anyone help? > > Maybe. Bring your config file with you... I tried xdm today but it didn't work. The X background appears for a few seconds, but then it (silently) returns to the console. If I try to run it again nothing at all happens. It didn't print any messages, but seeing that dks had found something in the log, I looked in the same file and found: Jun 12 14:48:53 localhost kernel: xrdb: memory violation at pc=0x00c1a638, lr=0x00015fc0 (bad address=0x6c2a6e69, code 1) Hm, same as one of dks's. Which config file would you want to see? startx works fine. I haven't got a man file for X though :-(. -- \_________________ \ http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~tonyh/ The Curling Pages \ The home of WinEd, Bombz and POPstar for RISC OS unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 12 20:19:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA22830 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 20:19:13 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA17865 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 20:20:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:51529 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20209-682>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 22:20:01 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971929-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:58:57 -0400 Received: from poseidon.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.34]:36867 "EHLO poseidon.tcp.net.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971936-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 12:31:02 -0400 Received: from tonyh (du-089.tcp.co.uk [195.80.1.89]) by poseidon.tcp.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8+antispam) with SMTP id SAA15727 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 18:24:29 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 17:37:39 +0100 From: Tony Houghton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Compiling a kernel with PPP Message-ID: <734e205548%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40a for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.21beta MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I decided to try compiling a kernel with PPP support and encountered a small problem. When assembling /usr/src/linux/arch/arm/mm/proc-sa110.S it couldn't find "constants.h" for including. I copied the one from /usr/src/linux/arch/arm/lib to /usr/src/linux/include as a workaround, and my new kernel compiled and runs OK. I don't know what the proper fix for that problem is though. Now, I haven't finished configuring all the PPP/networking stuff yet, so I don't know whether it will work, but during boot I get: Jun 11 22:02:52 localhost modprobe: Can't locate module net-pf-4 Jun 11 22:02:53 localhost modprobe: Can't locate module net-pf-5 Is that going to stop TCP/IP from working? The rough outline of what I did when installing is: make mrproper make config make dep make zImage make modules make modules_install -- \_________________ \ http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~tonyh/ The Curling Pages \ The home of WinEd, Bombz and POPstar for RISC OS unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 12 21:20:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA22893 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 21:20:03 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA17880 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 21:21:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:62725 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10517-686>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 23:20:29 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971660-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 14:01:41 -0400 Received: from [194.203.5.194] ([194.203.5.194]:1471 "EHLO mail-gw.ionicaplc.com" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <972171-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 13:37:34 -0400 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id UAA13271 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 20:28:16 +0100 Received: from ionica(12.0.1.3) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com via smap (V2.0beta) id xma013267; Fri, 12 Jun 98 20:28:10 +0100 Received: from mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk [12.0.8.116]) by ionica.ionica.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA21088 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 20:28:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk (unverified [12.0.15.13]) by mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (Integralis SMTPRS 2.04) with SMTP id ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 20:27:56 +0100 Received: by camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD9640.9526E730@camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 20:27:56 +0100 Message-Id: From: Simon Ogilvie To: "'Philip Blundell'" Cc: "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: RE: Installing - phase 3 (the saga continues!) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 20:29:19 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Philip Blundell wrote: >You could try taking them out in any case; there may be some bad interaction >going on. The Scanlight in particular is probably quite rare and it may be >nobody has run Linux on a machine with one before. OK tried removing all the expansion cards and the PC card. No joy. >The kernel's already running by that point (and you can probably boot with >the >"init=/bin/sh" option and get to a prompt...) but something is happening that >makes it fall over when it tries to start userland. Tried that too, and it doesn't stack-dump, but it still hangs! However, if I try /bin/csh it works OK and drops me out to a shell with a read-only filesystem, so I still can't change anything. At least this is one stage further though...! > >By the looks of it some module branched to a wild address. The strange thing >is that it seems to happen before I'd expect any modules to have been loaded >(excepting maybe the FP emulator). The rest of the stack trace is: pc : [] lr : [] sp : c2f25ec4 ip : c2f25f1c fp : c2f25f18 r10 : 00000000 r9 : 0001c000 r8 : 00018f80 r7 : 0000007a r6 : c2feec18 r5 : 00000000 r4 : c02189f0 r3 : 00000001 r2 : c3805000 r1 : 00000006 r0 : c380af6c Flags: nZCv IRQs on FIQs on Mode SVC_32 Process insmod (pid: 9, stackpage=c2f25000) Stack: Backtrace: Function entered at [] from [] Function entered at [] from [] r9 = c2f25fb8 r8 = 00017000 r7 = 0001c000 r6 = c00fa7e0 r5 = 00006094 r4 = 03fffd8c Function entered at [] from [] r8 = c2f25ff4 r7 = 00900080 r6 = 00000080 r5 = c2f27018 r4 = 00018f80 Code: pc not in code space At this point it stiffs and requires a reset. The fact that I can get it to boot into a shell suggests that it must be close, doesn't it...?! The only thing I've got left in my machine is the SA110 processor, 48Mb of RAM and 2Mb video RAM. The memory shouldn't affect it, or the version of the SA card should it? Any help greatly appreciated! Thanks, Simon. > > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 12 21:23:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA22897 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 21:23:32 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA17884 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 21:24:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:62725 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19915-682>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 23:23:48 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971893-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 14:29:48 -0400 Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk ([194.131.104.13]:44077 "HELO golden.argonet.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <972255-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 13:57:50 -0400 Received: from (193.130.245.211) [193.130.245.211] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0ykZoO-0004H8-00; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 20:48:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: jhayes@argonet.co.uk ("scijmoz") Reply-To: jhayes@argonet.co.uk To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Fri, 12 Jun 98 20:24:39 X-Mailer: VTi Internet Email reader 1.09 : aa Subject: Re: Installing on A5k Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Tue 9 Jun 98 (14:40:03 +0100), mh120608@cr10m.staffs.ac.uk wrote: >Hi there > >I was told that to install ARM linux on an A5k i'd need to 'do a mkswap >and a swapon' by someone. > >Well, I would, but I dont have a clue how to! > >I've been told to try the FAQ etc. but cant find anything helpful > >anyone got any ideas? > >Ta! when trying to install it on my 4Mb A5000 after asking for the suppliment disk i get the message: symlink 2: out of memory I think that adding the swap earlier should solve this but there is only one terminal available and that is being used by the installer! John Hayes. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 12 21:53:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA22909 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 21:53:34 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA17891 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 21:54:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:56130 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19758-684>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 23:53:59 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <972239-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 14:52:44 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1447 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <972213-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 14:46:51 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0ykFDl-0004LF-00; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 22:49:21 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Simon Ogilvie cc: "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: Re: Installing - phase 3 (the saga continues!) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:14:16 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 22:49:21 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >Internal error: Oops: 0 >CPU: 0 >pc : [] >lr : [] By the looks of it some module branched to a wild address. The strange thing is that it seems to happen before I'd expect any modules to have been loaded (excepting maybe the FP emulator). >Then I tried to boot the system, and it correctly identifies the >kernel and then crashes when it tries to load it! The kernel's already running by that point (and you can probably boot with the "init=/bin/sh" option and get to a prompt...) but something is happening that makes it fall over when it tries to start userland. >that can be it can it? I've got a (blacklisted) Oak SCSI card, >a Scanlight Video256 card and an Acorn MIDI podule, all of which >are irrelevant as far as Linux is concerned. You could try taking them out in any case; there may be some bad interaction going on. The Scanlight in particular is probably quite rare and it may be nobody has run Linux on a machine with one before. Can you remember which modules you selected during installation? p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 12 23:26:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA22964 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 23:26:05 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA17908 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 23:27:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:40304 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19585-685>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 01:26:33 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <972193-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 16:35:17 -0400 Received: from [194.203.5.194] ([194.203.5.194]:1914 "EHLO mail-gw.ionicaplc.com" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <972018-14379>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 16:34:58 -0400 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id XAA15487 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 23:25:49 +0100 Received: from ionica(12.0.1.3) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com via smap (V2.0beta) id xma015483; Fri, 12 Jun 98 23:25:40 +0100 Received: from mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk [12.0.8.116]) by ionica.ionica.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA22407 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 23:25:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk (unverified [12.0.15.13]) by mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (Integralis SMTPRS 2.04) with SMTP id ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 23:25:28 +0100 Received: by camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD9659.62AF3FF0@camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk>; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 23:25:28 +0100 Message-Id: From: Simon Ogilvie To: "'Philip Blundell'" Cc: "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: RE: Installing - phase 3 (the saga continues!) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 23:26:51 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >>However, if I try /bin/csh it works OK and drops me out to >>a shell with a read-only filesystem, so I still can't change >>anything. At least this is one stage further though...! > >You can fix the read-only-ness by using the `rw' parameter. Where do I put the rw? The only place I get to specify anything non-standard is at the optional parameters prompt - is this where I should specify it, and if so how? > >No. I guessed you had 48MB already but I don't think it's likely to be a >problem. That's good - I didn't want to have to strip my machine down again to remove a SIMM! > >Do you have a System.map file for that kernel? (Or, if you're using a >precompiled kernel, can you remind me which one?) The kernel is just the standard 2.0.33 for the rpc off the ARM Linux web site. I haven't done anything with it as I haven't had a system sufficiently up to try regening it! Cheers, Simon. > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Jun 13 14:27:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA23442 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 14:27:09 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18004 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 14:28:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:29805 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10532-685>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 16:27:58 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <972283-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 09:19:12 -0400 Received: from post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.40]:35157 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <972324-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 08:17:39 -0400 Received: from (tardis.home.dave) [194.222.210.232] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0ykpDL-0005Gr-00; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 12:15:19 +0000 Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 13:10:08 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Gilbert X-Sender: gilbertd@tardis.home.dave To: Simon Ogilvie cc: "'Philip Blundell'" , "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: RE: Installing - phase 3 (the saga continues!) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Fri, 12 Jun 1998, Simon Ogilvie wrote: > Tried that too, and it doesn't stack-dump, but it still hangs! > However, if I try /bin/csh it works OK and drops me out to > a shell with a read-only filesystem, so I still can't change > anything. At least this is one stage further though...! OK so you have /bin/csh; try executing /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/misc/fpem.o (I think!) and see what it says. See if you can mount /proc and see /proc/modules to see if the fpem is mounted. Dave> -------------------------------------------------------------------- / Dr. David Alan Gilbert | Running Linux on Alpha & ARM \ \ gro.gilbert @ treblig.org | ------- Happy in hex ------- / \____________________________|___ http://www.treblig.demon.co.uk __/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Jun 13 14:35:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA23455 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 14:35:34 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18008 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 14:36:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:29805 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10278-686>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 16:36:34 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <972322-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 09:19:24 -0400 Received: from hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.16.101]:34928 "HELO hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <972392-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 08:20:16 -0400 Received: from lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk by hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk with SMTP-GLA (MMTA) with ESMTP; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 08:09:43 +0100 Received: from localhost (9606585c@localhost) by lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk (8.8.4/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA07502; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 08:09:36 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 08:09:36 +0100 (BST) From: James Craig <9606585c@udcf.gla.ac.uk> X-Sender: 9606585c@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk To: Tony Houghton cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Compiling a kernel with PPP In-Reply-To: <734e205548%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Fri, 12 Jun 1998, Tony Houghton wrote: > Now, I haven't finished configuring all the PPP/networking stuff yet, so > I don't know whether it will work, but during boot I get: > > Jun 11 22:02:52 localhost modprobe: Can't locate module net-pf-4 > Jun 11 22:02:53 localhost modprobe: Can't locate module net-pf-5 > > Is that going to stop TCP/IP from working? Quite definately NOT. net-pf-4 and net-pf-5 are IPX and AppleTalk support respectively - not a major concern for TCPIP. > The rough outline of what I did when installing is: > > make mrproper > make config > make dep > make zImage > make modules > make modules_install Looks healthy. Hopefully someone else will know what's up with your compile job. :) -- James Craig <9606585c@udcf.gla.ac.uk> unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Jun 13 14:37:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA23459 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 14:37:02 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18012 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 14:38:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:29805 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10406-685>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 16:36:42 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <972325-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 09:19:33 -0400 Received: from hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.16.101]:34928 "HELO hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <972393-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 08:20:17 -0400 Received: from lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk by hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk with SMTP-GLA (MMTA) with ESMTP; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 08:14:30 +0100 Received: from localhost (9606585c@localhost) by lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk (8.8.4/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA07991; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 08:14:26 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 08:14:25 +0100 (BST) From: James Craig <9606585c@udcf.gla.ac.uk> X-Sender: 9606585c@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk To: Simon Ogilvie cc: "'Philip Blundell'" , "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: RE: Installing - phase 3 (the saga continues!) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Fri, 12 Jun 1998, Simon Ogilvie wrote: > Philip Blundell wrote: > >You could try taking them out in any case; there may be some bad interaction > >going on. The Scanlight in particular is probably quite rare and it may be > >nobody has run Linux on a machine with one before. > > OK tried removing all the expansion cards and the PC card. > No joy. > > >The kernel's already running by that point (and you can probably boot with > >the > >"init=/bin/sh" option and get to a prompt...) but something is happening that > >makes it fall over when it tries to start userland. > > Tried that too, and it doesn't stack-dump, but it still hangs! > However, if I try /bin/csh it works OK and drops me out to > a shell with a read-only filesystem, so I still can't change > anything. At least this is one stage further though...! You can get the kernel to mount root as RW instead of RW just by showing exactly that on the command line - i.e. your command line should have "rw" on it somewhere. -- James Craig <9606585c@udcf.gla.ac.uk> unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Jun 13 14:52:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA23466 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 14:52:39 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18017 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 14:53:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:29805 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10799-684>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 16:52:32 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <972317-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 09:24:37 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:50766 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <972481-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 09:11:10 -0400 Received: from (kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) [158.152.220.239] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yklnQ-0005iI-00; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 08:36:21 +0000 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0ykacw-00051K-00; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 21:40:46 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Simon Ogilvie cc: "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: Re: Installing - phase 3 (the saga continues!) In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 12 Jun 1998 20:29:19 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 21:40:46 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >Tried that too, and it doesn't stack-dump, but it still hangs! Thinking more, that's probably because sh is bash and needs floating point to be in place before it will run. One of the endearing features of the ARM. :-) >However, if I try /bin/csh it works OK and drops me out to >a shell with a read-only filesystem, so I still can't change >anything. At least this is one stage further though...! You can fix the read-only-ness by using the `rw' parameter. >it must be close, doesn't it...?! The only thing I've got left >in my machine is the SA110 processor, 48Mb of RAM and >2Mb video RAM. The memory shouldn't affect it, or the >version of the SA card should it? No. I guessed you had 48MB already but I don't think it's likely to be a problem. Do you have a System.map file for that kernel? (Or, if you're using a precompiled kernel, can you remind me which one?) p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Jun 13 14:52:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA23467 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 14:52:40 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18020 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 14:53:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:29805 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11089-684>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 16:53:00 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <972269-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 09:29:40 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:37046 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <972257-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 09:11:39 -0400 Received: from (latrigg.demon.co.uk) [158.152.64.157] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yklfX-0003mg-00; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 09:28:11 +0100 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 22:22:48 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Pringle Subject: How do I create a kernel? To: Linux Mailing List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: At Home, 01285 713514 X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.45] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I am running linux on an A5000, I have tried to compile a kernel (with no success) but it is not finding some sources. Has anyone compiled a kernel on an A5000? If so, could some one write an idiots guide to compiling a kernel? Thanks in advance. Chris Regards, --- Chris Pringle 22, St. Mary's Drive, Fairford, Glos. GL7 4LQ P.S.Check out My web site at http://www.latrigg.demon.co.uk/Chris/index.html unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Jun 13 14:56:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA23474 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 14:56:28 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18024 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 14:57:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:29805 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10395-685>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 16:56:31 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <972422-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 09:43:21 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:51553 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <972330-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 09:20:58 -0400 Received: from (tardis.home.dave) [194.222.210.232] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0ykqCm-00023Y-00; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 13:18:48 +0000 Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 14:13:37 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Gilbert X-Sender: gilbertd@tardis.home.dave To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Phil Blundell - mail bouncing! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO (Sorry about this being to the list guys, but I can't tell him any other way) Hi Phil, I can't seem to mail you: Philip.Blundell@pobox.com: SMTP error from remote mailer after MAIL FROM: : host mx1.pobox.com [208.210.124.27]: 552 ... Domain of envelope sender must resolve treblig.org still seems to be OK; so I don't know if its your end?? Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------- / Dr. David Alan Gilbert | Running Linux on Alpha & ARM \ \ gro.gilbert @ treblig.org | ------- Happy in hex ------- / \____________________________|___ http://www.treblig.demon.co.uk __/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Jun 13 15:25:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA23503 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 15:25:47 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18028 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 15:26:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:12388 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10765-682>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 17:26:39 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970892-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 10:28:13 -0400 Received: from heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.32.11]:2828 "HELO heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970978-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 10:27:47 -0400 Received: from cowslip.cl.cam.ac.uk (cl.cam.ac.uk) [128.232.3.212] (rjb45) by heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ykrFU-0001HM-00; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 15:25:40 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2+CL 2/24/98 To: ARM Linux Subject: Re: Can't locate module net-pf-* In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 12 Jun 1998 17:37:39 BST." <734e205548%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 15:25:38 +0100 From: Richard Bradbury Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Fri, 12 Jun 1998 17:37:39, Tony Houghton wrote: > > Jun 11 22:02:52 localhost modprobe: Can't locate module net-pf-4 > Jun 11 22:02:53 localhost modprobe: Can't locate module net-pf-5 > > Is that going to stop TCP/IP from working? These are references to the (missing) Appletalk and Novell IPX protocol families which aren't supported under ARM Linux. The Internet protocol family is supported, and works just fine without them. In the past, it has been suggested that adding the following lines to your /etc/conf.modules will make the error messages go away: alias net-pf-4 off alias net-pf-5 off This seems to be a frequently enough asked question to be in the FAQ. -- Richard. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Jun 13 17:52:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA23892 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 17:52:03 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA18040 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 17:53:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14956 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10581-684>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 19:52:54 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970952-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 12:53:05 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:35288 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970983-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 12:49:50 -0400 Received: from (tardis.home.dave) [194.222.210.232] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yktTF-0004lT-00; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 17:48:01 +0100 Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 17:42:50 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Gilbert X-Sender: gilbertd@tardis.home.dave To: Chris Pringle cc: Linux Mailing List Subject: Re: How do I create a kernel? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Fri, 12 Jun 1998, Chris Pringle wrote: > I am running linux on an A5000, I have tried to compile a kernel (with no > success) but it is not finding some sources. Has anyone compiled a kernel on > an A5000? If so, could some one write an idiots guide to compiling a kernel? > Thanks in advance. Can you tell us some of the errors you are getting - it might give us an idea of the problem. Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------- / Dr. David Alan Gilbert | Running Linux on Alpha & ARM \ \ gro.gilbert @ treblig.org | ------- Happy in hex ------- / \____________________________|___ http://www.treblig.demon.co.uk __/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Jun 13 21:34:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA24114 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:34:23 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA18063 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:35:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:19744 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11229-682>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 23:35:17 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970885-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 16:35:13 -0400 Received: from [194.203.5.194] ([194.203.5.194]:1542 "EHLO mail-gw.ionicaplc.com" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971022-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 16:29:51 -0400 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id VAA23994 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:28:30 +0100 Received: from ionica(12.0.1.3) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com via smap (V2.0beta) id xma023990; Sat, 13 Jun 98 21:28:18 +0100 Received: from mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk [12.0.8.116]) by ionica.ionica.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA00834 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:28:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk (unverified [12.0.15.13]) by mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (Integralis SMTPRS 2.04) with SMTP id ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:28:06 +0100 Received: by camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD9712.2758D2E0@camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:28:06 +0100 Message-Id: From: Simon Ogilvie To: "'Dave Gilbert'" Cc: "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: RE: Installing - phase 3 (the saga continues!) Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:29:30 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Dave Gilbert wrote: >OK so you have /bin/csh; try executing > >/sbin/insmod /lib/modules/misc/fpem.o >(I think!) >and see what it says. Aha! That gives the same crash and stack dump as I get on normal bootup. >See if you can mount /proc and see /proc/modules to see if the fpem is >mounted. Unfortunately I haven't managed to get the system to boot with both an alternate shell AND with the disk rw. I can get one or the other but not both. Of course if I get rw, I also get the machine stiffed, so I can't change the default root shell in the passwd file, or remove the fpem.o file. Where does that get me? Did I do something wrong on the installation to get to this problem? Simon. > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Jun 13 22:09:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA24130 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 22:08:59 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA18070 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 22:10:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:12400 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10604-682>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 00:09:53 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971072-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 17:03:10 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:40779 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970993-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 16:36:06 -0400 Received: from (eganc.demon.co.uk) [194.222.190.176] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0ykx0h-0002D6-00; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:34:48 +0100 Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:32:03 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Egan Subject: X Window Problem To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Chris Egan @ Home X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.45] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, I've just installed Linux, on my SA RPC, without too many problems. Unfortunately, I can't seem to get X windows to run. I installed all the RPMs from the Acorn Clan CD. When I try to start X I get: X Version 11 Release 6 C Window System (...) Screen: 640 x 480, 16 colors failed to set default font path '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc, /usr/X11R6/ lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/ fonts/75dpi/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ fatal server error: Could not open default font 'fixed' As far as I can see, the directories /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/ and /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ don't exist. As I've changed nothing since installation, this seems strange. I can't find the cause of this, can anybody help? Kind Regards, -- Chris Egan Mailto:chris@eganc.demon.co.uk Web: http://www.eganc.demon.co.uk/ Acorn Codev1.02: A3 rpc7sa*/S1000/I850/Y5/Icdx4/m3/BB1/ed+++/dc/!nl pc--/pr+/wb++/an++/bd--/AW/F3/!bbs unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Jun 13 22:09:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA24134 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 22:09:36 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA18073 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 22:10:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:12400 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10442-684>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 00:10:43 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970889-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 17:10:02 -0400 Received: from [194.203.5.194] ([194.203.5.194]:1746 "EHLO mail-gw.ionicaplc.com" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971017-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 16:45:47 -0400 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id VAA24088 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:44:31 +0100 Received: from ionica(12.0.1.3) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com via smap (V2.0beta) id xma024083; Sat, 13 Jun 98 21:44:27 +0100 Received: from mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk [12.0.8.116]) by ionica.ionica.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA00882 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:44:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk (unverified [12.0.15.13]) by mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (Integralis SMTPRS 2.04) with SMTP id ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:44:12 +0100 Received: by camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD9714.674B9A70@camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:44:12 +0100 Message-Id: From: Simon Ogilvie To: "'Dave Gilbert'" Cc: "'Philip Blundell'" , "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: RE: Installing - phase 3 (the saga continues!) Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:45:36 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Right, now we're getting somewhere! I have booted the system as below, and moved the fpem module out of the way. The system then complains it can't find it on bootup, but continues booting anyway, and goes all the way to the login prompt! At this point it won't log me in though, as it says in the FAQ... Do I need to do what it says in the FAQ about getting a newer insmod and removing some RAM??? I'd thought as I'd downloaded this from the web site this week I would already have the latest insmod and modules, but perhaps not. Simon. >---------- >From: Simon Ogilvie >Sent: 13 June 1998 21:36 >To: 'Dave Gilbert' >Cc: 'Philip Blundell'; 'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu' >Subject: RE: Installing - phase 3 (the saga continues!) > >Dave Gilbert wrote: >See if you can mount /proc and see /proc/modules to see if the fpem is >mounted. > >Thanks to a suggestion from Philip, I have now >been able to run up a csh and then remount the >disk rw using the remount option of mount as >well as rw. (Thanks Philip!) > >I can now mount the proc directory, but /proc/modules >is a zero length file - is that correct? > >Simon. > > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Jun 13 22:10:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA24138 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 22:10:05 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA18076 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 22:11:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:12400 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20421-684>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 00:11:15 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971086-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 17:09:36 -0400 Received: from [194.203.5.194] ([194.203.5.194]:1674 "EHLO mail-gw.ionicaplc.com" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970974-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 16:37:21 -0400 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id VAA24050 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:36:01 +0100 Received: from ionica(12.0.1.3) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com via smap (V2.0beta) id xma024042; Sat, 13 Jun 98 21:35:46 +0100 Received: from mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk [12.0.8.116]) by ionica.ionica.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA00864 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:35:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk (unverified [12.0.15.13]) by mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (Integralis SMTPRS 2.04) with SMTP id ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:35:31 +0100 Received: by camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD9713.30966F60@camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:35:31 +0100 Message-Id: From: Simon Ogilvie To: "'Dave Gilbert'" Cc: "'Philip Blundell'" , "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: RE: Installing - phase 3 (the saga continues!) Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:36:57 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Dave Gilbert wrote: >See if you can mount /proc and see /proc/modules to see if the fpem is >mounted. Thanks to a suggestion from Philip, I have now been able to run up a csh and then remount the disk rw using the remount option of mount as well as rw. (Thanks Philip!) I can now mount the proc directory, but /proc/modules is a zero length file - is that correct? Simon. > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Jun 13 23:02:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA24193 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 23:02:57 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA18086 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 23:04:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:57957 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20165-686>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 01:00:38 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971030-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 18:00:57 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1527 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971040-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 17:59:17 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0ykxzq-0006Nn-00; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 22:37:58 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Simon Ogilvie cc: "'Dave Gilbert'" , "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: Re: Installing - phase 3 (the saga continues!) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:29:30 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 22:37:58 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >Aha! That gives the same crash and stack dump as I get >on normal bootup. What is fpem.o a symlink to? If it's the 2.xx version of the emulator then you're certainly heading for trouble. If it's the correct (4.xx) one then that's a bit more strange. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Jun 13 23:03:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA24196 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 23:03:01 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA18089 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 23:04:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:57957 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19477-685>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 01:01:49 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971020-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 18:01:06 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1530 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971023-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 17:59:32 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yky09-0006O0-00; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 22:38:17 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Simon Ogilvie cc: "'Dave Gilbert'" , "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: Re: Installing - phase 3 (the saga continues!) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:36:57 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 22:38:17 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >I can now mount the proc directory, but /proc/modules >is a zero length file - is that correct? Yes - it just means no modules are loaded. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Jun 13 23:42:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA24260 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 23:42:53 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA18095 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 23:44:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:29282 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20083-684>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 01:44:00 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971046-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 18:44:22 -0400 Received: from [194.203.5.194] ([194.203.5.194]:1998 "EHLO mail-gw.ionicaplc.com" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970967-218>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 18:43:27 -0400 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id XAA24719 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 23:42:33 +0100 Received: from ionica(12.0.1.3) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com via smap (V2.0beta) id xma024714; Sat, 13 Jun 98 23:42:08 +0100 Received: from mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk [12.0.8.116]) by ionica.ionica.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA01265 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 23:42:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk (unverified [12.0.15.13]) by mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (Integralis SMTPRS 2.04) with SMTP id ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 23:41:56 +0100 Received: by camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD9724.D980B6B0@camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk>; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 23:41:55 +0100 Message-Id: From: Simon Ogilvie To: "'Philip Blundell'" Cc: "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: RE: Installing - phase 3 (the saga continues!) Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 23:43:19 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO It's a link to fpem-4.07.o, but the datestamp on that file is Oct 1996 while the datestamp on the 2.87 version is Mar 1997? I've remembered that the RPMs I used were off the Clan CD, so perhaps I should download some more up to date files? How do I add them to an existing install rather than reinstalling from scratch? Or would I be better off just reinstalling? Thanks, Simon. >---------- >From: Philip Blundell[SMTP:Philip.Blundell@pobox.com] >Sent: 13 June 1998 22:37 >To: Simon Ogilvie >Cc: 'Dave Gilbert'; 'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu' >Subject: Re: Installing - phase 3 (the saga continues!) > >>Aha! That gives the same crash and stack dump as I get >>on normal bootup. > >What is fpem.o a symlink to? If it's the 2.xx version of the emulator then >you're certainly heading for trouble. If it's the correct (4.xx) one then >that's a bit more strange. > >p. > > > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Jun 14 07:47:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA24457 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 07:47:47 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA18175 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 07:49:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:49717 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19850-685>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 09:48:36 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971175-218>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 02:47:35 -0400 Received: from frosch.intern ([195.35.6.2]:2716 "EHLO frosch.all.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971188-218>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 02:47:06 -0400 Received: from bolzen.denic.net (root@bolzen.in-berlin.de [194.94.235.1]) by frosch.all.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA04920 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 08:47:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from yoda!yoda.in-berlin.de!voss@bolzen.denic.net) Received: by bolzen.denic.net (Smail3.2) from yoda with uucp id ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 08:47:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by yoda.in-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1 #0) id m0yl8Ul-000000C; Sun, 14 Jun 98 06:50 GMT Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 08:42:44 +0200 From: Stefan Voss To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ELF Message-ID: <4183f15548%voss@yoda.in-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <35810D11.167E@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> X-Organization: Individual Network (IN), Berlin, Germany X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40b for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO In message <35810D11.167E@cpt.univ-mrs.fr>, Vincent Penne wrote: > [...] > > Yes : the problem is in gas. When I use binutils from the patched > version for ARM-ELF, and gas from the version 2.9.1.0.6 but not patched > for ARM-ELF, all come back to the normal. I can also use more early > version of gas (like the one in the pre-compiled distribution), which > works as well. Same behaviour as on my machine. BTW the reason for unresolved "_xstat" symbols when building gcc was that I didn't run configure as "configure arm-unknown-linuxaout" but without this parameter. When building the stage2 compiler /usr/include/sys/stat.h was included instead of /usr/arm-unknown-linuxaout/include/sys/stat.h. > > Vincent Penne. > Regards, Stefan -- Stefan Voss (voss@yoda.in-berlin.de) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Jun 14 12:02:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA24639 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 12:02:49 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA18195 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 12:04:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:60539 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19687-684>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 14:03:54 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971257-218>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 07:01:39 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:24166 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971246-218>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 07:01:14 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id MAA24628; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 12:01:16 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199806141101.MAA24628@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Installing - phase 3 (the saga continues!) To: simon_ogilvie@ionica.co.uk (Simon Ogilvie) Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 12:01:14 +0100 (BST) Cc: gilbertd@treblig.org, Philip.Blundell@pobox.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Simon Ogilvie" at Jun 13, 98 09:36:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Simon Ogilvie > > Dave Gilbert wrote: > >See if you can mount /proc and see /proc/modules to see if the fpem is > >mounted. > > I can now mount the proc directory, but /proc/modules > is a zero length file - is that correct? Many files in /proc have zero length; this does not necessarily mean that they are empty. It means you can't use `less' on them, but you can use `cat'. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Jun 14 12:28:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA24683 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 12:28:54 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA18201 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 12:30:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:10288 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19718-685>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 14:30:00 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971265-218>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 07:27:53 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:24485 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971269-218>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 07:27:39 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id MAA24671; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 12:27:57 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199806141127.MAA24671@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: X Window Problem To: chris@eganc.demon.co.uk (Chris Egan) Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 12:27:56 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Chris Egan" at Jun 13, 98 09:32:03 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Chris Egan > I've just installed Linux, on my SA RPC, without too many problems. > Unfortunately, I can't seem to get X windows to run. I installed all the RPMs > from the Acorn Clan CD. > > When I try to start X I get: > > X Version 11 Release 6 C Window System > (...) > Screen: 640 x 480, 16 colors > failed to set default font path '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc, /usr/X11R6/ > lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/ > fonts/75dpi/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ > fatal server error: > Could not open default font 'fixed' > > As far as I can see, the directories /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/ and > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ don't exist. As I've changed nothing since > installation, this seems strange. This is definitely a FAQ... that isn't in the FAQ. How are you starting X? When I use `startx', it works for me. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From chris@eganc.demon.co.uk Sun Jun 14 13:17:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id NAA24745 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 13:17:43 +0100 Received: from (eganc.demon.co.uk) [194.222.190.176] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0ylBkW-0006zR-00; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 13:19:05 +0100 Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 13:18:47 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Egan Subject: Re: X Window Problem To: Matthew Wilcox In-Reply-To: <199806141127.MAA24671@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Chris Egan @ Home X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.45] Status: RO On Sun 14 Jun, Matthew Wilcox wrote: [snip] > This is definitely a FAQ... that isn't in the FAQ. How are you starting X? > When I use `startx', it works for me. I'm starting it with just 'X', I'll try your way. I checked the FAQ before hand and was surprised not to see anything like this in there. Thanks, -- Chris Egan Mailto:chris@eganc.demon.co.uk Web: http://www.eganc.demon.co.uk/ Acorn Codev1.02: A3 rpc7sa*/S1000/I850/Y5/Icdx4/m3/BB1/ed+++/dc/!nl pc--/pr+/wb++/an++/bd--/AW/F3/!bbs From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Jun 14 14:18:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA24894 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 14:18:00 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18214 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 14:19:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:26466 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19461-684>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 16:19:11 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971320-218>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 09:09:05 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1571 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971327-218>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 08:56:52 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0ylBvP-0000gJ-00; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 13:30:19 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Stefan Voss cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ELF In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 14 Jun 1998 08:42:44 +0200." <4183f15548%voss@yoda.in-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 13:30:18 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >> Yes : the problem is in gas. When I use binutils from the patched >> version for ARM-ELF, and gas from the version 2.9.1.0.6 but not patched >> for ARM-ELF, all come back to the normal. I can also use more early > >Same behaviour as on my machine. I just tried to reproduce this but I can't. Can one of you mail me the .s file you're using and the good and bad .o files? p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Jun 14 14:18:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA24898 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 14:18:19 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18217 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 14:19:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:26466 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20096-682>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 16:19:32 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971300-218>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 09:09:13 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1574 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971329-218>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 08:57:49 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0ylBwx-0000gZ-00; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 13:31:55 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Simon Ogilvie cc: "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: Re: Installing - phase 3 (the saga continues!) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 13 Jun 1998 23:43:19 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 13:31:55 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >I've remembered that the RPMs I used were off the >Clan CD, so perhaps I should download some more >up to date files? How do I add them to an existing install >rather than reinstalling from scratch? Or would I be >better off just reinstalling? The rune is something like `rpm --upgrade foo.rpm'. I think `man rpm' may be your friend. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From mh120608@cr10m.staffs.ac.uk Sun Jun 14 18:26:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (cr10m.staffs.ac.uk [193.60.4.10]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA25151 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 18:26:01 +0100 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA05117; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 18:27:22 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: Matthew Wilcox Cc: chris@eganc.demon.co.uk Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 17:40:54 +0100 Message-ID: <628465emh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Re: X Window Problem In-Reply-To: <199806141127.MAA24671@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO On 14 Jun, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > This is definitely a FAQ... that isn't in the FAQ. How are you > starting X? When I use `startx', it works for me. Likewise - that bit me, too, until I 'discovered' startx :-) X rules, by the way :) -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Jun 14 19:44:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA25281 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 19:44:35 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA18243 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 19:45:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14127 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19879-682>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 21:45:20 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970959-218>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 14:39:27 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:25456 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970806-218>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 14:24:21 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id TAA25263; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 19:27:37 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199806141827.TAA25263@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ELF To: Philip.Blundell@pobox.com (Philip Blundell) Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 19:27:36 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Jun 6, 98 05:49:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Philip Blundell > I've made an initial beta release of the ELF toolset. The release notes are > appended to this message. Enjoy. > Glibc > ----- > > The latest alpha release is 2.0.94 and can be found at > . You will also need to get > the latest versions of the linuxthreads and crypt add-ons. People outside > the US should use the European site for crypt (see the glibc documentation) > due to the US export laws. The other bits are available in the UK, or only small patch files are required from the US. Are there no European mirrors of glibc 2.0.94? Also, there are no glibc-crypt-2.0.9x add-ons available from ftp.ifi.uio.no, is there another site which should be used for the alpha release crypt? Yummy, 5.2MB transatlantic.. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From Philip.Blundell@pobox.com Sun Jun 14 23:04:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org (exim@tazenda.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.239]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id XAA25558 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 23:04:27 +0100 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0ylKMY-0001ZH-00; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 22:30:54 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Matthew Wilcox cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ELF In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 14 Jun 1998 19:27:36 BST." <199806141827.TAA25263@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 22:30:54 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Status: RO >The other bits are available in the UK, or only small patch files >are required from the US. Are there no European mirrors of glibc >2.0.94? Also, there are no glibc-crypt-2.0.9x add-ons available from Not that I know of (though it's possible that part of ftp.kernel.org is mirrored by src.doc.ic.ac.uk). The primary libc site used to be i44ftp.info.uni-karlsruhe.de, but I just checked there and it hasn't been updated in a while. >ftp.ifi.uio.no, is there another site which should be used for the alpha >release crypt? Again I'm not sure. I'll try to find out. The crypt from 2.0.7 may work though, not a lot has changed. p. From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Jun 14 23:20:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA25597 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 23:20:05 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA18280 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 23:21:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:4701 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20371-29399>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 01:21:10 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970998-15556>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 17:28:13 -0400 Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk ([194.131.104.13]:33549 "HELO golden.argonet.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970990-15556>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 17:27:57 -0400 Received: from (193.130.245.114) [193.130.245.114] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0ylKOO-0000PO-00; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 22:32:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: jhayes@argonet.co.uk ("scijmoz") Reply-To: jhayes@argonet.co.uk To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Sun, 14 Jun 98 22:31:46 X-Mailer: VTi Internet Email reader 1.09 : aa Subject: Re: Installing on A5k Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Sun 14 Jun 98 (13:25:57 +0100), cpringle@latrigg.demon.co.uk wrote: >BTW I have 8 MB RAM, I have never tried installaing with less than 8, >please let me know if it works. > I think memory is the problem,I have only 4mb but you are supposed to be able to make 4mb work. If any one has a solution to this please abvise. Thankyou John Hayes unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 15 01:10:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA26002 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 01:10:39 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA18363 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 01:10:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:4701 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20118-10024>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 03:10:22 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971122-15556>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 18:27:00 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:27563 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971111-15556>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 18:22:07 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id XAA25671 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 23:25:33 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199806142225.XAA25671@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: X To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 23:25:32 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Can I just confirm that everyone who is having problems with X is trying to start it by some other means than `startx'? ie could everyone who's reported problems with X test if `startx' works for them, and if _not_, then email here. Thanks. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 15 02:57:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA26074 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 02:57:22 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA18369 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 02:57:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:4701 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19703-29399>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 04:57:15 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971302-15556>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 21:11:03 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:3167 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971291-15556>; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 21:08:07 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id CAA12990 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 02:13:09 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 02:15:49 +0100 Message-ID: <6576af4mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Linux compiling wierdness... Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Ok, I couldnt solve this one, so I saved it to disc and thought I'd post it here - I just tried to compile Circlemud 3-bpl13 out of the box, and got the following:- make ../bin/circle make[1]: Entering directory `/root/circle/src' gcc -c -g -O2 -Wall comm.c In file included from /usr/arm-unknown-linuxaout/include/stdlib.h:42, from sysdep.h:108, from comm.c:14: /usr/include/errno.h:27: linux/errno.h: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [comm.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/circle/src' make: *** [all] Error 2 [root@delenn src]# Any idea whats going on? compiling wget 1.5.1 seems to give similar results... however, I can get helloworld running most satisfactorily :) -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 15 10:17:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA26281 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 10:17:54 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA18409 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 10:17:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:1334 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10504-7151>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:17:36 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970866-2834>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 04:43:55 -0400 Received: from [194.203.5.194] ([194.203.5.194]:1522 "EHLO mail-gw.ionicaplc.com" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970861-2834>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 04:43:12 -0400 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id JAA04027 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:48:57 +0100 Received: from ionica(12.0.1.3) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com via smap (V2.0beta) id xma004025; Mon, 15 Jun 98 09:48:28 +0100 Received: from mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk [12.0.8.116]) by ionica.ionica.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02571 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:48:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk (unverified [12.0.15.13]) by mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (Integralis SMTPRS 2.04) with SMTP id ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:48:24 +0100 Received: by camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD9842.BCF135F0@camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:48:24 +0100 Received: by camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD9842.9E8D8460@camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:47:33 +0100 Message-Id: From: Simon Ogilvie To: "'Philip Blundell'" Cc: "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: RE: Installing - phase 3 (the saga continues!) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:49:53 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Unfortunately I haven't got the system in a sufficiently stable state to be able to run man yet! I had a trawl through the ...man8/rpm.8 man file manually, and it does look correct, but it just says I'm upgrading to the same version (or words to that effect). Which rpm is it I need to upgrade? I tried the modules and arm-aout libraries to no avail. I assume it's just a newer insmod I need as my fpem.o is already version 4.07? Simon. >---------- >From: Philip Blundell[SMTP:Philip.Blundell@pobox.com] >Sent: 14 June 1998 13:31 >To: Simon Ogilvie >Cc: 'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu' >Subject: Re: Installing - phase 3 (the saga continues!) > >>I've remembered that the RPMs I used were off the >>Clan CD, so perhaps I should download some more >>up to date files? How do I add them to an existing install >>rather than reinstalling from scratch? Or would I be >>better off just reinstalling? > >The rune is something like `rpm --upgrade foo.rpm'. I think `man rpm' may be >your friend. > >p. > > > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 15 12:04:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA26487 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:04:36 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA18429 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:04:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:24155 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19493-7151>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 14:04:02 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970935-2834>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 06:38:07 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:29540 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970938-2834>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 06:37:45 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id LAA26433; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:43:30 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199806151043.LAA26433@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Linux compiling wierdness... To: mh120608@cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (Ian Molton) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:43:28 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <6576af4mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> from "Ian Molton" at Jun 15, 98 02:15:49 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Ian Molton > In file included from /usr/arm-unknown-linuxaout/include/stdlib.h:42, > from sysdep.h:108, > from comm.c:14: > /usr/include/errno.h:27: linux/errno.h: No such file or directory > > Any idea whats going on? This one's come up before on the mailing list. Would people mind checking the archives before posting? The problem is that you don't have kernel headers installed. Either install a kernel-headers package which just installs the headers, or install the kernel source and make the following symlinks: /usr/include/linux -> /usr/src/linux/include/linux /usr/include/asm -> /usr/src/linux/include/asm-arm /usr/include/scsi -> /usr/src/linux/include/scsi The three mailing list archives that Russell is aware of are linked to from http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 15 12:56:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA26583 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:56:41 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA18440 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:56:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:56182 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11220-500>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 14:56:07 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970884-2834>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 07:14:00 -0400 Received: from mailhost.owl.co.uk ([194.201.150.8]:2844 "EHLO owl3.owl.co.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970919-2834>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 07:13:39 -0400 Received: from owl.co.uk (194.201.150.49) by owl3.owl.co.uk (Rockliffe SMTPRA 1.2) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:18:09 +0100 Message-ID: <35850354.839366FC@owl.co.uk> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:19:48 +0100 From: Ian Jeffray Organization: Panasonic OWL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cpringle@latrigg.demon.co.uk CC: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Has anyone got the Ether3 driver working on an A5k Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Chris Pringle writes: > Has anyone got the ether3 driver to work on the A5000. Every time I do > an insmod I just get a :> initialization of ether3 failed. > All help is appreciated. Thanks Newer Ether3's (based on NQ80C04A) do not work properly with the linux ether3 driver - I'm currently awaiting driver docs so that I can remedy the driver. This is not just an A5000 problem. So far, I've managed to get mine to bootp, but larger transfers still fail. With kernel 2.0.34 the kernel even says the ethercard RAM is faulty! Odd. Ian. -- ___ (o o) Ian Jeffray - Software Engineer - Panasonic OWL ( V ) Mail@Work: ianj@owl.co.uk Mail@Home: ian@eh.org /--m-m- Web: http://www.eh.org/~ian Phone: 0378 392 963 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 15 16:05:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA26803 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 16:04:59 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18494 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 16:05:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:16931 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10515-24650>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 18:03:15 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970925-2834>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:59:11 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:13901 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970949-2834>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:58:52 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (PAA27518); Mon, 15 Jun 1998 15:05:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 15:05:01 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: ARM Linux Subject: Partitions, and how to find them Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi! I'm currently writing LinuFS, which is a simple filing system hack to allow IscaFS to have its own filing system. I've written the code to allow it to read the linux partition table, but it'll only find it on ADFS drives ATM. I seem to remember RMK mentioning something about a library he has which allows the partition table to be found on all kinds of drive, and I'd like to build the same kind of support into LinuFS (although I'll probably have to rewrite it since LinuFS is in assembler). Since RMK is still on holiday for a while yet, can anyone tell me where I can find this library, if it exists. Thanks, Phil P.S. If anyone has things such as IDEFS etc and would like to test whatever code I produce to read the non-ADFS discs, please let me know. I don't have access to a machine with anything unADFS. -- Rule of programming #4: The length of time taken to find a bug is directly proportional to its simplicity. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 15 16:37:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA26883 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 16:37:18 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18500 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 16:37:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:16931 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10518-29448>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 18:37:22 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970985-2834>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 10:41:00 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:60469 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970992-2834>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 10:37:45 -0400 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.162]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA07036 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 16:43:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf1) id AA13611; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 16:43:55 +0200 Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 16:43:54 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Installing - phase 3 (the saga continues!) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Philip Blundell wrote: > >I can now mount the proc directory, but /proc/modules > >is a zero length file - is that correct? > > Yes - it just means no modules are loaded. > > p. > No, all files in /proc have a zero length, this is 'cause this is no regular file system. You just need to 'cat file' to see it's contents. Even if you'd loaded a whole of 20 modules (if exist) the file would have a length of zero. ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 15 16:46:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA26923 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 16:46:48 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18506 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 16:46:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:16931 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10708-29448>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 18:45:36 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971009-2834>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 10:47:32 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:64447 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970799-2834>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 10:47:19 -0400 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.162]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA07961 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 16:53:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf1) id AA27818; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 16:53:46 +0200 Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 16:53:46 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Installing on A5k In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Sun, 14 Jun 1998, scijmoz wrote: > I think memory is the problem,I have only 4mb but you are supposed to be able > to make 4mb work. > > If any one has a solution to this please abvise. > > Thankyou > John Hayes I one managed it in conjunction with the previous linux release... I installed it (on partition files), made a boot disk with nothing but a shell, libc & mkswap on it and modified the normal bootdiscs to run swapon before anything else. But it's quite a long time ago and I don't know exactly how the last thing worked. It was quite a pain. (I think I had a disk that started swapon & dropped me into a shell, I had to start the second stage install manually and sometimes got error messages saying "Yor're running me on a live system - Thats incredibly stupid" from it) ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 15 17:00:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA26949 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:00:18 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA18511 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:00:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:16931 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10221-24650>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 19:00:04 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971038-2834>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:20:11 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:43242 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971042-2834>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:19:40 -0400 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.162]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA11207 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:26:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf1) id AA29578; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:26:03 +0200 Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:26:03 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: ARXE 16-bit SCSI card Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO So, here it is, if someone's interested, the ARXE 16-bit SCSI card driver which works r/w. It's the only fas216 based scsi driver that needs no interrupts. I found the reported bug myself already. It was a problem between the lowlevel & midlevel driver and it was introduced by me myself (sorry :-) ). It was some kind of re-entrancy problem with the call to scsi_done which sometimes (if an error occurs) retries the command (and since the lowlevel drivers routines where still in use waiting for scsi_done to return, they got re-entered). I solved this problem by a simple call back mechanism using add_timer. ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 15 18:00:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA27116 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 18:00:05 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA18521 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 18:00:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:16931 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10375-500>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 20:00:02 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971036-2834>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:29:24 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:3775 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971061-2834>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:28:30 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id RAA31936 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:34:56 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:38:03 +0100 Message-ID: <6abda20mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Linux compiler funnies... Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I tried the advice in the mailing list about getting the compiler to behave, as qutoed below. BUT it didnt work - gcc now simply spews a huge number of different errors out, I still cant compile circlemud or wget. can anyone give a definitive guide on how to make it work, or, better still, a definitive guide AND a list of the files which were unnecessarily installed by the below instructions, so I can delete them? Here's what I found in the mailinglist - it was followed to the letter... /usr/include/linux to /usr/src/linux/include/linux /usr/include/asm to /usr/src/linux/include/asm /usr/include/scsi to /usr/src/linux/include/scsi Mmm. This _is_ a FAQ though it's not ARMLinux specific and as such probably isn't mentioned in Russell's FAQ. The libc we're currently using (libc 4) requires kernel headers in order to compile (almost) anything. libc 6 which we will move t once we have ELF support is much less dependent upon having the kernel headers. There might be an RPM which contains the kernel headers, but personally, I downloaded the linux kernel source (ftp://sunsite.org.uk/Mirrors/ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.0/ linux-2.0.33.tar.gz), unpacked it into /usr/src/linux, downloaded the latest kernel patch from Russell (ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/kernel-sources/v2.0/), patched the kernel to give armlinux support (cd /usr/src/linux; zcat arm-2.0.33.gz | patch -p1), make config (this is important), \and then set up the appropriate symlinks: ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux /usr/include ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm /usr/include ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/scsi /usr/include I'll get there in the end!!! Thanks! -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 15 20:48:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA27306 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 20:48:10 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA18545 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 20:48:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:18536 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10320-7151>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 22:48:12 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970948-2834>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 13:37:46 -0400 Received: from firewall.cobaltmicro.com ([209.133.34.37]:62482 "EHLO lotus.cobaltmicro.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970945-2834>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 13:37:26 -0400 Received: from localhost (tim@localhost) by lotus.cobaltmicro.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA30852 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 10:47:27 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: lotus.cobaltmicro.com: tim owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 10:47:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Timothy Stonis X-Sender: tim@lotus To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Performance... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, Forgive me if this is a repeat question, but can anybody point me towards some performance numbers on a ARM Linux system? lmbench results maybe? Thanks. _Tim unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 15 21:28:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA27335 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 21:28:10 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA18552 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 21:28:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:18536 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19841-29448>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 23:28:03 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970905-2834>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 14:52:09 -0400 Received: from [194.203.5.194] ([194.203.5.194]:1934 "EHLO mail-gw.ionicaplc.com" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970812-2834>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 14:51:53 -0400 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id TAA26172 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 19:58:45 +0100 Received: from ionica(12.0.1.3) by mail-gw.ionicaplc.com via smap (V2.0beta) id xma026152; Mon, 15 Jun 98 19:58:19 +0100 Received: from mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk [12.0.8.116]) by ionica.ionica.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA13854 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 19:58:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk (unverified [12.0.15.13]) by mimesweeper.ionica.co.uk (Integralis SMTPRS 2.04) with SMTP id ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 19:58:10 +0100 Received: by camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD9897.EBFAAE80@camb5ex.Ionica.co.uk>; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 19:58:10 +0100 Message-Id: From: Simon Ogilvie To: "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: RE: Installing - phase 3 Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 19:59:40 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Thanks to the help of several people on this list, I have now been able to get my RiscPC to run Linux, and I have an X desktop sitting in front of me! Thanks very much for being patient with me! I'm not completely there yet, as I have had to hack a few things to get this far, but hopefully I should be able to go it alone from here on. I've moved the fpem out of the way for now, and forced it to boot correctly by telling it I've got 16M of RAM, but at least I'm now in a position to start correctly my earlier mistakes, and heading for a clean system. Once again, thanks for all the help! Simon. > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 16 15:24:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA28275 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:24:43 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18696 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:25:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:5485 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20037-7151>; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 17:19:38 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971015-2834>; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:10:36 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:3538 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971014-2834>; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:09:49 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA20626 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:18:22 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:21:51 +0100 Message-ID: <72337a7mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: More linux Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Sorry if thi appeared before, but I still cant get anywhere compiling things on Linux - it cant find the libraries. I tried the solution(s) in the mailinglist Archives, but it still wont go. I'm running kernel 2.0.34 what /exactly/ needs doing to make it go? Thanks! -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 16 17:03:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA28553 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 17:03:39 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA18708 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 17:03:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:25632 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT2") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20132-24650>; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 19:02:06 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970983-2834>; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:43:14 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:7267 "HELO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971323-2834>; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:37:38 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ylxrg-0001Vs-00; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 16:41:40 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ylxrY-0001aA-00; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 16:41:32 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Ian Molton cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: More linux In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:21:51 BST." <72337a7mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 16:41:32 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >what /exactly/ needs doing to make it go? What /exactly/ goes wrong? Any number of things might be the problem. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 17 02:11:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA01111 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 02:11:11 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA18799 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 02:37:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:10781 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19817-24650>; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 04:37:06 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970866-2834>; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 20:51:41 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:2339 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970886-2834>; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 19:57:54 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id BAA18491 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 01:07:23 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 01:10:14 +0100 Message-ID: <75915ddmh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Powertec SCSI III Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi there! I dont know if anyones interested, but I could possibly be persuaded to lend out my PowerTec SCSI III card if anyone's interested in writin a module for it for ARMlinux. This would be on condition that it got returned to me as and when I ask for it back, in one (working!) piece. As I need my SCSI drive, If anyone's interested, I'll see if my other SCSI card (acorn SCSI) will speak to my harddisc. /IF/ it will, then someone gets to borrow a nice quick scsi card for a bit.... Any takers? -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 17 03:48:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA01166 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 03:48:10 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA18822 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 04:14:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:10768 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19715-7151>; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 06:14:17 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970847-2834>; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 23:03:48 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:2774 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970841-2834>; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 23:03:30 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id EAA04932 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 04:13:34 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 04:16:37 +0100 Message-ID: <76a265amh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: HHHHEEEELLLLPPP!!! Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO My Linux installation is rapidly going pear shaped... problem 1: In a fit of madness I deleted /usr/include whilst trying to get the compiler to behave. Dont bother backing it up, I told myself, just delete it, you can always get it from the RPM again.... well, I redownloaded the RPM's (it /is/ only the gcc RPM I need, isnt it?) and to my utter dismay, thr rpm wont install. not even with --force I tried rpm --install --force but it just said it couldnt install it. adding -vv gave no clues as to /why/ it couldnt install it... rpm now seems to work on precisely none of the packages (I tried about 5 or 6 of them) problem 2: For some reason, it has forgotten one of it's routes. it /used/ to automagically do a 'route add default gw 192.168.240.254' on startup, but apparently no longer does. why? and what file needs tweaking to repair this? like I said, HEEELP! (I'm going mad with this damn thing. Esp. the compiler, which I (obviously) still cant make behave itself! Thanks! -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 17 05:39:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA01186 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 05:39:30 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA18835 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 06:06:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:25364 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19441-24650>; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 08:05:55 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970908-2834>; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 00:46:41 -0400 Received: from [210.154.37.2] ([210.154.37.2]:26914 "EHLO ns.funai-tky.co.jp" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971030-2834>; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 00:44:23 -0400 Received: from hiropu.funai-tky.co.jp ([192.168.1.19] (may be forged)) by ns.funai-tky.co.jp (8.8.6/3.4W4-FUNAI-TKY-970730) with SMTP id NAA06108 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 13:54:08 +0900 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 13:58:10 +0900 From: hiroshi ishii To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Can't exec init (on brutus) Message-Id: <35874CE2DC.F3F6HIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.24.13 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hello I'm try to work Linux on brutus board. But fault paging when kernel boot. Debug message is; SEGV: init (1): 000725c4 pc : [<000725c4>] lr : [<2000baf8>] sp : 03ffff28 ip : ffffffff fp : c00b5208 r10: 00000000 r9 : 00000001 r8 : 00000000 r7 : ffffffff r6 : c00839cf r5 : c00b51e4 r4 : 00000000 r3 : 00000001 r2 : 00000002 r1 : 0000000a r0 : 00000001 Flags: nzCv IRQs on FIQs on Mode USER_26 What's wrong? ------------- Funai Electric Engineering Co.,LTD Hiroshi Ishii e-mail address : hiroshi@funai-tky.co.jp unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 17 11:39:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA01368 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:39:32 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA18876 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 12:05:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:58122 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10255-7151>; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:05:45 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970915-2834>; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 05:26:40 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:54314 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970907-2834>; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 05:21:03 -0400 Received: from mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16229 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:31:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.157]) by mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA99758 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:31:21 +0200 Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf2) id AA16828; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:31:16 +0200 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:31:16 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: More linux In-Reply-To: <72337a7mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > Sorry if thi appeared before, but I still cant get anywhere compiling > things on Linux - it cant find the libraries. > > I tried the solution(s) in the mailinglist Archives, but it still wont go. > > I'm running kernel 2.0.34 > > what /exactly/ needs doing to make it go? Make sure you have installed *all* rpms that belong to gcc, the arm-aout-libs* and all rpms with 'devel' (for development) in the filename. But this are still not all of the libs available in the world. Some programs depend on libs like Motiv v1.2 or higher, Qt or something else that's not available for ARMLinux. Have a look at the README to see if it depends on non-standard libraries, the /usr/lib & /usr/X11R6/lib dirs and try to compile the missing libraries yourself (in most of the cases this will be static libs since we still have no 100% working ELF support). ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 17 12:43:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA01408 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 12:43:25 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18887 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 13:09:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:8538 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10449-7151>; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:08:11 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970872-2834>; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 06:17:28 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:8313 "HELO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971037-2834>; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 06:13:36 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ymFKA-0002Cn-00; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:20:14 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ymFK2-0006nS-00; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:20:06 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Ian Molton cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: HHHHEEEELLLLPPP!!! In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 Jun 1998 04:16:37 BST." <76a265amh120608@staffs.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:20:06 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >well, I redownloaded the RPM's (it /is/ only the gcc RPM I need, isnt it?) No, the header files will be in the libc rpm. >For some reason, it has forgotten one of it's routes. it /used/ to >automagically do a 'route add default gw 192.168.240.254' on startup, but >apparently no longer does. why? and what file needs tweaking to repair >this? It's somewhere in /etc/sysconfig/network I imagine. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 17 13:34:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA01485 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 13:34:35 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18896 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:01:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:31516 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10511-24650>; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:58:42 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970999-2834>; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 06:46:55 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:55800 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970974-2834>; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 05:26:29 -0400 Received: from mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16620 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:36:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.157]) by mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA66568 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:36:25 +0200 Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf2) id AA25296; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:36:23 +0200 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:36:23 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: ELF Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I can remember I've read in this mailing list about a testing version of ELF gcc & binutils & glibc. Does this mean we have an ELF library standard or will this be a static library??? ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 17 17:16:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA01798 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:16:06 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA18949 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:42:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:62297 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10987-7151>; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:42:22 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970956-2834>; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:50:53 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:9922 "HELO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971123-2834>; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:39:56 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ymIKf-0002Pb-00; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:32:57 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ymIKX-0004uX-00; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:32:49 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Stefan Hanske cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ELF In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:36:23 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:32:49 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >I can remember I've read in this mailing list about a testing version of >ELF gcc & binutils & glibc. Does this mean we have an ELF library >standard or will this be a static library??? It is a full implementation of ELF including shared libraries and dynamic linking. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 17 17:24:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA01834 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:24:55 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA18954 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:51:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:25960 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10933-24650>; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:49:56 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970948-2834>; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:51:08 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:7739 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970939-2834>; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 10:29:35 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (PAA11130); Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:38:13 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:38:13 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: Philip Blundell cc: ARM Linux Subject: Re: ELF In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Sat, 6 Jun 1998, Philip Blundell wrote: > Glibc > ----- > > The latest alpha release is 2.0.94 and can be found at > . You will also need to get > the latest versions of the linuxthreads and crypt add-ons. People outside > the US should use the European site for crypt (see the glibc documentation) > due to the US export laws. What are the uk mirrors? It might be nice if a load of mirror sites were mentioned somewhere on the ftp.arm.uk.linux.org page. Cheers, Phil -- Rule of programming #4: The length of time taken to find a bug is directly proportional to its simplicity. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From Philip.Blundell@pobox.com Wed Jun 17 18:36:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org (exim@tazenda.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.239]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA01923 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 18:35:59 +0100 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0ymMQY-0006ku-00; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 18:55:18 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Matthew Wilcox cc: P.C.F.Norman@exeter.ac.uk (Phil Norman), linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ELF In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:36:34 BST." <199806171636.RAA01853@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 18:55:18 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Status: RO >I haven't got a crypt yet; The answer to that seems to be that any recent crypt should do. The addon hasn't changed for a long time. p. From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 17 22:20:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA02316 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 22:20:21 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA18996 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 22:47:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:4424 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11173-29448>; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 00:46:14 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970841-2834>; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:31:31 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:10343 "HELO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971117-2834>; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 12:01:33 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ymKny-0002ZJ-00; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:11:22 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ymKnq-00014y-00; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:11:14 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Phil Norman cc: ARM Linux Subject: Re: ELF In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:38:13 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:11:12 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >What are the uk mirrors? I'm not sure if there are any to be honest. Since glibc 2.1 is still development software we don't want it spread too widely. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 17 22:56:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA02358 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 22:56:27 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA19008 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 23:23:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:38517 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11181-29448>; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 01:20:48 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970940-2834>; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:25:18 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:7452 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT2") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971227-2834>; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 12:53:29 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id RAA01853; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:36:35 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199806171636.RAA01853@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ELF To: P.C.F.Norman@exeter.ac.uk (Phil Norman) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:36:34 +0100 (BST) Cc: Philip.Blundell@pobox.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Phil Norman" at Jun 17, 98 03:38:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Phil Norman > > On Sat, 6 Jun 1998, Philip Blundell wrote: > > > Glibc > > ----- > > > > The latest alpha release is 2.0.94 and can be found at > > . You will also need to get > > the latest versions of the linuxthreads and crypt add-ons. People outside > > the US should use the European site for crypt (see the glibc documentation) > > due to the US export laws. > > What are the uk mirrors? It might be nice if a load of mirror sites were > mentioned somewhere on the ftp.arm.uk.linux.org page. Okay, here's what I did for lowest-cross-atlantic-bandwidth: from sunsite.org.uk: binutils-2.9.1.0.4 gcc 2.8.1 from tazenda: Phil's three patches from ftp.kernel.org glibc-2.0.94 glibc-linuxthreads-2.0.94 I haven't got a crypt yet; and I've pretty much stopped trying to do anything due to a recent family bereavement. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 18 00:18:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA02397 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 00:18:22 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA19058 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 00:45:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:53836 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11105-7151>; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 02:44:50 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971111-2834>; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:16:42 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:1413 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971372-2834>; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 16:26:59 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id VAA05282 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 21:38:09 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 21:39:24 +0100 Message-ID: <7c99e85mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: What do ppl make of this one? Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Ok, here we go... I have a vanilla 2.0.34 system, which I originally installed using the 2.0.33 kernel, but have upgraded the modules and kernel to 2.0.34. The compiler didnt work. it gave the following error when compiling circle 3.x bpl13 (www.circlemud.org) [[[[ make ../bin/circle make[1]: Entering directory `/root/circle/src' gcc -c -g -O2 -Wall comm.c In file included from /usr/arm-unknown-linuxaout/include/stdlib.h:42, from sysdep.h:108, from comm.c:14: /usr/include/errno.h:27: linux/errno.h: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [comm.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/circle/src' make: *** [all] Error 2 [root@delenn src]# ]]]] I tried this fix from the mailinglist archive - [[[[ Mmm. This _is_ a FAQ though it's not ARMLinux specific and as such probably isn't mentioned in Russell's FAQ. The libc we're currently using (libc 4) requires kernel headers in order to compile (almost) anything. libc 6 which we will move t once we have ELF support is much less dependent upon having the kernel headers. There might be an RPM which contains the kernel headers, but personally, I downloaded the linux kernel source (ftp://sunsite.org.uk/Mirrors/ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.0/ linux-2.0.33.tar.gz), unpacked it into /usr/src/linux, downloaded the latest kernel patch from Russell (ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/kernel-sources/v2.0/), patched the kernel to give armlinux support (cd /usr/src/linux; zcat arm-2.0.33.gz | patch -p1), make config (this is important), \and then set up the appropriate symlinks: ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux /usr/include ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm /usr/include ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/scsi /usr/include ]]]] and I then get these errors (quite long, sorry!) [[[[ [delenn src]# make make ../bin/circle make[1]: Entering directory `/root/circle/src' gcc -c -g -O2 -Wall comm.c In file included from sysdep.h:94, from comm.c:14: /usr/arm-unknown-linuxaout/include/stdio.h:71: warning: empty declaration comm.c:120: warning: parameter has incomplete type comm.c:120: warning: parameter has incomplete type comm.c:121: warning: parameter has incomplete type comm.c:121: warning: parameter has incomplete type comm.c: In function `main': comm.c:268: warning: implicit declaration of function `chdir' comm.c: In function `init_game': comm.c:321: warning: implicit declaration of function `close' comm.c: In function `init_socket': comm.c:340: storage size of `sa' isn't known comm.c:375: warning: implicit declaration of function `socket' comm.c:375: `PF_INET' undeclared (first use this function) comm.c:375: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once comm.c:375: for each function it appears in.) comm.c:375: `SOCK_STREAM' undeclared (first use this function) comm.c:404: `AF_INET' undeclared (first use this function) comm.c:405: warning: implicit declaration of function `htons' comm.c:406: warning: implicit declaration of function `htonl' comm.c:406: `INADDR_ANY' undeclared (first use this function) comm.c:408: warning: implicit declaration of function `bind' comm.c:414: warning: implicit declaration of function `listen' comm.c:340: warning: unused variable `sa' comm.c:339: warning: unused variable `opt' comm.c: In function `game_loop': comm.c:513: `fd_set' undeclared (first use this function) comm.c:513: parse error before `input_set' comm.c:514: storage size of `last_time' isn't known comm.c:514: storage size of `before_sleep' isn't known comm.c:514: storage size of `opt_time' isn't known comm.c:514: storage size of `process_time' isn't known comm.c:514: storage size of `now' isn't known comm.c:514: storage size of `timeout' isn't known comm.c:520: invalid use of undefined type `struct timeval' comm.c:521: invalid use of undefined type `struct timeval' comm.c:524: warning: implicit declaration of function `FD_ZERO' comm.c:524: `null_set' undeclared (first use this function) comm.c:526: warning: implicit declaration of function `gettimeofday' comm.c:534: `input_set' undeclared (first use this function) comm.c:535: warning: implicit declaration of function `FD_SET' comm.c:536: warning: implicit declaration of function `select' comm.c:536: parse error before `)' comm.c:547: `output_set' undeclared (first use this function) comm.c:548: `exc_set' undeclared (first use this function) comm.c:570: type of formal parameter 1 is incomplete comm.c:570: type of formal parameter 2 is incomplete comm.c:570: invalid use of undefined type `struct timeval' comm.c:586: type of formal parameter 1 is incomplete comm.c:586: type of formal parameter 2 is incomplete comm.c:586: invalid use of undefined type `struct timeval' comm.c:586: type of formal parameter 1 is incomplete comm.c:586: type of formal parameter 2 is incomplete comm.c:586: invalid use of undefined type `struct timeval' comm.c:590: type of formal parameter 1 is incomplete comm.c:590: type of formal parameter 2 is incomplete comm.c:590: invalid use of undefined type `struct timeval' comm.c:597: parse error before `)' comm.c:602: parse error before `}' comm.c:605: type of formal parameter 1 is incomplete comm.c:605: type of formal parameter 2 is incomplete comm.c:605: invalid use of undefined type `struct timeval' comm.c:517: warning: unused variable `aliased' comm.c:517: warning: unused variable `pulse' comm.c:516: warning: unused variable `next_d' comm.c:515: warning: unused variable `comm' comm.c:514: warning: unused variable `timeout' comm.c:514: warning: unused variable `now' comm.c:514: warning: unused variable `process_time' comm.c:514: warning: unused variable `opt_time' comm.c:514: warning: unused variable `before_sleep' comm.c:514: warning: unused variable `last_time' comm.c: At top level: comm.c:606: parse error before `while' comm.c:618: warning: data definition has no type or storage class comm.c:618: `next_d' undeclared here (not in a function) comm.c:618: parse error before `)' comm.c:622: parse error before `->' comm.c:622: warning: data definition has no type or storage class comm.c:623: warning: parameter names (without types) in function declaration comm.c:623: conflicting types for `close_socket' comm.h:19: previous declaration of `close_socket' comm.c:623: warning: data definition has no type or storage class comm.c:624: parse error before `}' comm.c:628: warning: data definition has no type or storage class comm.c:628: redefinition of `d' comm.c:618: `d' previously defined here comm.c:628: `next_d' undeclared here (not in a function) comm.c:628: parse error before `)' comm.c:636: warning: data definition has no type or storage class comm.c:636: redefinition of `d' comm.c:628: `d' previously defined here comm.c:636: `next_d' undeclared here (not in a function) comm.c:636: parse error before `)' comm.c:653: parse error before `->' comm.c:654: parse error before `->' comm.c:655: parse error before string constant comm.c:655: conflicting types for `act' comm.h:25: previous declaration of `act' comm.c:655: parse error before `->' comm.c:672: parse error before `->' comm.c:672: conflicting types for `command_interpreter' interpreter.h:20: previous declaration of `command_interpreter' comm.c:672: warning: data definition has no type or storage class comm.c:677: warning: data definition has no type or storage class comm.c:677: redefinition of `d' comm.c:636: `d' previously defined here comm.c:677: `next_d' undeclared here (not in a function) comm.c:677: parse error before `)' comm.c:689: warning: data definition has no type or storage class comm.c:689: redefinition of `d' comm.c:677: `d' previously defined here comm.c:689: invalid type argument of `->' comm.c:689: parse error before `)' comm.c:697: warning: data definition has no type or storage class comm.c:697: redefinition of `d' comm.c:689: `d' previously defined here comm.c:697: `next_d' undeclared here (not in a function) comm.c:697: parse error before `)' comm.c:712: warning: data definition has no type or storage class comm.c:713: parse error before `}' comm.c:718: redefinition of `missed_pulses' comm.c:712: `missed_pulses' previously defined here comm.c:718: warning: data definition has no type or storage class comm.c:719: parse error before `}' ccomm.c:789: parameter `a' has incomplete type comm.c:789: parameter `b' has incomplete type comm.c:789: return-type is an incomplete type comm.c:789: conflicting types for `timediff' comm.c:120: previous declaration of `timediff' comm.c: In function `timediff': comm.c:790: storage size of `rslt' isn't known comm.c:793: warning: `return' with a value, in function returning void comm.c:796: warning: `return' with a value, in function returning void comm.c:800: warning: `return' with a value, in function returning void comm.c:809: warning: `return' with a value, in function returning void comm.c:790: warning: unused variable `rslt' comm.c: At top level: comm.c:815: parameter `a' has incomplete type comm.c:815: parameter `b' has incomplete type comm.c:815: return-type is an incomplete type comm.c:815: conflicting types for `timeadd' comm.c:121: previous declaration of `timeadd' comm.c: In function `timeadd': comm.c:816: storage size of `rslt' isn't known comm.c:826: warning: `return' with a value, in function returning void comm.c:816: warning: unused variable `rslt' comm.c: In function `new_descriptor': comm.c:1075: storage size of `peer' isn't known comm.c:1080: warning: implicit declaration of function `accept' comm.c:1110: `AF_INET' undeclared (first use this function) comm.c:1117: warning: implicit declaration of function `ntohl' comm.c:1075: warning: unused variable `peer' comm.c: In function `write_to_descriptor': comm.c:1246: warning: implicit declaration of function `write' comm.c: In function `process_input': comm.c:1299: warning: implicit declaration of function `read' comm.c: At top level: comm.c:1508: conflicting types for `close_socket' comm.c:623: previous declaration of `close_socket' comm.c: In function `nonblock': comm.c:1623: warning: implicit declaration of function `fcntl' comm.c:1623: `F_GETFL' undeclared (first use this function) comm.c:1624: `O_NDELAY' undeclared (first use this function) comm.c:1625: `F_SETFL' undeclared (first use this function) comm.c: In function `reread_wizlists': comm.c:1644: warning: control reaches end of non-void function comm.c: In function `unrestrict_game': comm.c:1654: warning: control reaches end of non-void function comm.c: In function `reap': comm.c:1661: warning: implicit declaration of function `waitpid' comm.c:1661: `WNOHANG' undeclared (first use this function) comm.c:1663: warning: implicit declaration of function `my_signal' comm.c:1663: `SIGCHLD' undeclared (first use this function) comm.c:1664: warning: control reaches end of non-void function comm.c: In function `checkpointing': comm.c:1673: warning: control reaches end of non-void function comm.c: In function `signal_setup': comm.c:1722: storage size of `itime' isn't known comm.c:1723: storage size of `interval' isn't known comm.c:1726: warning: implicit declaration of function `signal' comm.c:1726: `SIGUSR1' undeclared (first use this function) comm.c:1732: `SIGUSR2' undeclared (first use this function) comm.c:1742: warning: implicit declaration of function `setitimer' comm.c:1742: `ITIMER_VIRTUAL' undeclared (first use this function) comm.c:1743: `SIGVTALRM' undeclared (first use this function) comm.c:1746: `SIGHUP' undeclared (first use this function) comm.c:1747: `SIGCHLD' undeclared (first use this function) comm.c:1749: `SIGINT' undeclared (first use this function) comm.c:1750: `SIGTERM' undeclared (first use this function) comm.c:1751: `SIGPIPE' undeclared (first use this function) comm.c:1751: `SIG_IGN' undeclared (first use this function) comm.c:1752: `SIGALRM' undeclared (first use this function) comm.c:1723: warning: unused variable `interval' comm.c:1722: warning: unused variable `itime' comm.c: At top level: comm.c:1901: conflicting types for `act' comm.c:655: previous declaration of `act' comm.c:106: storage size of `null_time' isn't known make[1]: *** [comm.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/circle/src' make: *** [all] Error 2 [delenn src]# ]]]] Anyone got /any/ idea whats going on? this is driving me nuts! Any help MUCH appreciated! -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 18 10:04:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA02685 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 10:04:19 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19148 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 10:31:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:31764 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19626-24650>; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 12:30:35 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970944-11442>; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 05:17:56 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:10788 "HELO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970963-11442>; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 05:14:23 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ymadU-0003KY-00; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 10:05:36 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ymadT-00007K-00; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 10:05:35 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Ian Molton cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: What do ppl make of this one? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 Jun 1998 21:39:24 BST." <7c99e85mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 10:05:35 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >[delenn src]# make >make ../bin/circle >make[1]: Entering directory `/root/circle/src' >gcc -c -g -O2 -Wall comm.c >In file included from sysdep.h:94, > from comm.c:14: >/usr/arm-unknown-linuxaout/include/stdio.h:71: warning: empty declaration >comm.c:120: warning: parameter has incomplete type >comm.c:120: warning: parameter has incomplete type >comm.c:121: warning: parameter has incomplete type >comm.c:121: warning: parameter has incomplete type >comm.c: In function `main': >comm.c:268: warning: implicit declaration of function `chdir' >comm.c: In function `init_game': >comm.c:321: warning: implicit declaration of function `close' >comm.c: In function `init_socket': >comm.c:340: storage size of `sa' isn't known >comm.c:375: warning: implicit declaration of function `socket' >comm.c:375: `PF_INET' undeclared (first use this function) >comm.c:375: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once >comm.c:375: for each function it appears in.) >comm.c:375: `SOCK_STREAM' undeclared (first use this function) What do you have in /usr/arm-linuxaout/include? p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 18 13:20:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA02867 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 13:20:26 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA19169 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 13:47:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:55816 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20383-29448>; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 15:44:42 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970861-11442>; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 08:31:51 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:2730 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970951-11442>; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 08:25:08 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id NAA17639 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 13:37:24 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 13:40:34 +0100 Message-ID: <8219e14mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Re: What do ppl make of this one? In-Reply-To: <000001bd9a97$efc33990$3196c9c2@nutter.owl.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On 18 Jun, Ian Jeffray wrote: > Ian, > Here's a BIG clue as to what's wrong: > > /usr/include/errno.h:27: linux/errno.h: No such file or directory Yes, and like I said, I tried to put the kernel sources in to fix this, which led to a very long string of errors... > > ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux /usr/include ln -s > > /usr/src/linux/include/asm /usr/include ln -s > > /usr/src/linux/include/scsi /usr/include ]]]] > > > > and I then get these errors (quite long, sorry!) > Of course the "errors" will get long, you've done a VERY silly thing > there! Not only have you tried to link three things to the same place, > you've somehow managed to completely obviate the contents of > /usr/include... which you DID say you had "deleted in a fit of > stupidity" or something! I was only following advice from the mailinglist archive, which I was pointed to by someone else!!! also, IIRC, I did say I'd managed to restore /usr/include. > > Anyone got /any/ idea whats going on? this is driving me nuts! > And YOU are beginning to drive US nuts. Well, sorry! > > Any help MUCH appreciated! > Your spammy compiler output is *NOT* appreciated, especially when you > keep on whinging about the same problem over and over and over. Well, sorry, but I /was/ asked for the compiler's output (cant remember who by, sorry!) > First off, undo all those silly links you made... /usr/include should > NEVER be linked to anything. okay... > Second, go away and install the proper /usr/include files from the > distribution. That's been done. > Third, install the appropriate linux sources for your kernel (ie 2.0.34) > in the usual place (/usr/include/linux) ... there you'll see the > "include/linux" dir, which contains the kernel-specific headers. > Third, /usr/include/linux should be a symlink to > /usr/src/linux/include/linux > (ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux /usr/include/linux ) Okay... > What I've mentioned here is not specific to ARM linux, but to linux in > general, and you would be well advised to read up a bit more about linux > if you're going to try compiling anything, to save your own > embarrasment, if nothing else. Well, I tried man gcc (not a lot of help!) and I've also asked some people on the #linux IRC channel (no-one had any idea what was up) I also tried looking for a linux-general type FAQ, because I've already been told it's a general point of linux. As you may have guessed, I didnt find what I was looking for. So I posted here, where I /know/ there's at least 1 person who knows whats up. > Good luck with your compiling, but, please, no more silly and spammy > posts to the list. it wasnt intended to be spammy - I was asked for a complete list of the output of the compiler. It wasnt /that/ big (3 pages, IIRC) Cya! -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 18 14:39:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA03032 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:39:17 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA19180 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 15:06:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:30468 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19866-29448>; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:03:52 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970870-11442>; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:44:57 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:11407 "HELO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970951-11442>; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:44:10 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ymf8R-0003dI-00; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:53:51 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ymf8O-0002Fr-00; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:53:48 +0100 To: Ian Molton cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: What do ppl make of this one? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Jun 1998 13:40:34 BST." <8219e14mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:53:48 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO In message <8219e14mh120608@staffs.ac.uk>, Ian Molton writes: >On 18 Jun, Ian Jeffray wrote: >> > ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux /usr/include ln -s >> > /usr/src/linux/include/asm /usr/include ln -s >> > /usr/src/linux/include/scsi /usr/include ]]]] >> > >> > and I then get these errors (quite long, sorry!) > >> Of course the "errors" will get long, you've done a VERY silly thing >> there! Not only have you tried to link three things to the same place, No, you haven't. `ln' is like `cp' - if the destination exists and is a directory, then the link is made _inside_ that directory with the same leafname as the source file. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 18 15:46:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA03090 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 15:46:32 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA19194 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:13:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:15883 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19791-7151>; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:13:02 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970796-11442>; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 11:00:13 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:3885 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970790-11442>; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 11:00:02 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id QAA04925 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:12:20 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: ARMlinux mailing list Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:15:13 +0100 Message-ID: <82fc6a7mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: further to the compiler problem Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Here's the directory listing you wanted... Contents of /usr/arm-unknown-linuxaout/include (ls -p) arpa/ dirent.h locale.h resolv.h termcap.h assert.h gnu/ localeinfo.h stdio.h time.h ctype.h iolibio.h netdb.h stdlib.h unistd.h curses.h libio.h nl_types.h sys/ Thanks! -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 18 17:25:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA03244 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:25:43 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA19208 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:52:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:22615 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20025-500>; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:51:33 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970807-11442>; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 12:21:47 -0400 Received: from mraos.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.48.8]:45079 "HELO mraos.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970878-11442>; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 12:17:22 -0400 Received: from mraosc.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk by mraos.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Smail3.1.29.0 #2) id m0ymhZK-0004G5C; Thu, 18 Jun 98 17:29 BST Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:29:46 +0100 (BST) From: Toby Haynes X-Sender: tjwh1@mraosc To: ARM Linux Subject: State of Java? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I'm a bit of a newbie on this mailing list, so I apologise if this has been dealt with earlier (I've already grep'ed my way through the entire mail digest though so I hope I'm safe!). What tools currently exist for Java development under ARM Linux? I've visited the Java-Linux site, which has JDK Linux ports for four platforms, but there's no mention of anything ARM related. A JavaVM, JRE, etc. would prove useful! Or has anything come out from Corel yet, who appear to be looking at Java support for ARMLinux? Thanks, Toby _______________________________________________________________________ Toby Haynes | "Alarm clock? Oh, you mean the sad pile of Rm 965, MRAO | cogs and twisted springs under that dent Uni. of Cambridge | in the wall?" unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 18 20:42:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA03751 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 20:42:04 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA19257 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 21:08:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:37720 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19922-7151>; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:08:39 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971016-11442>; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 15:55:29 -0400 Received: from bits.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.64.1]:1809 "EHLO BITS.bris.ac.uk" ident: "john") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970992-11442>; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 15:55:15 -0400 Received: from localhost (john@localhost) by BITS.bris.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA31099 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 21:08:21 +0100 Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 21:08:20 +0100 (BST) From: John Lindley To: ARMLinuxmailinglist Linux Subject: Re: State of Java? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Toby Haynes wrote: [Snip] > > What tools currently exist for Java development under ARM Linux? I've > visited the Java-Linux site, which has JDK Linux ports for four > platforms, but there's no mention of anything ARM related. A JavaVM, JRE, > etc. would prove useful! Or has anything come out from Corel yet, who > appear to be looking at Java support for ARMLinux? > ATM there is a freeware compiler called guavav. I haven't yet tried compiling itbut AFAIK this is the only java compiler available for Linux outside the JDK. For compiling I've found thesource to a virtual machine for Linux but I can't remember the exact name.Thereis a link from www.doc.ic.ac.uk. +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | | _ |_ ._ | o._ _|| _ | | \_|(_)| || | |_|| |(_||(/_\/ | | / | +-------------------------------+--------------------------------+ | WWW | E-Mail | | www.BITS.bris.ac.uk/~john | john@BITS.bris.ac.uk | +-------------------------------+--------------------------------+ | ...Doh said Pooh, suffering from an identity crisis | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 18 22:02:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA03937 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 22:02:30 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA19272 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 22:29:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:13349 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20154-500>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 00:29:13 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970932-11442>; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:04:25 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:44717 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970897-11442>; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:38:46 -0400 Received: from (causality.com) [158.152.208.192] by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0ymleS-0000Pi-00; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 20:51:20 +0000 Message-ID: <35897A29.8F41719E@causality.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 21:35:53 +0100 From: "Neil A. Carson" Organization: Causality Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Lindley CC: ARMLinuxmailinglist Linux Subject: Re: State of Java? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO John Lindley wrote: > > > > What tools currently exist for Java development under ARM Linux? I've > > visited the Java-Linux site, which has JDK Linux ports for four > > platforms, but there's no mention of anything ARM related. A JavaVM, JRE, > > etc. would prove useful! Or has anything come out from Corel yet, who > > appear to be looking at Java support for ARMLinux? > > > ATM there is a freeware compiler called guavav. I haven't yet tried > compiling itbut AFAIK this is the only java compiler available for Linux > outside the JDK. For compiling I've found thesource to a virtual machine > for Linux but I can't remember the exact name.Thereis a link from > www.doc.ic.ac.uk. Kaffe runs on NetBSD on the ARM, so a Linux port should be trivial because all the changes were ARM- rather than OS-dependant from memory (apart from a couple of things which depend on the locations of registers within a jump buffer, yuck). Neil -- Neil A. Carson unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 18 23:20:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA04126 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:20:49 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA19284 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:47:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:13629 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20416-29448>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 01:47:24 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970999-11442>; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:26:44 -0400 Received: from poseidon.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.34]:61877 "EHLO poseidon.tcp.net.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971060-11442>; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:25:17 -0400 Received: from tonyh (du-096.tcp.co.uk [195.80.1.96]) by poseidon.tcp.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8+antispam) with SMTP id XAA04339 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:38:03 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:34:40 +0100 From: Tony Houghton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Compiling adfs support Message-ID: <212585848%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40a for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.21beta MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Having compiled my own kernel I discovered that it doesn't support the adfs mount type :-(. Looking at the config stuff, it doesn't appear to be mentioned at all in make config or make menuconfig, but it is an option in make xconfig. Unfortunately it stays stubbornly "greyed out" (what do you call that under X)? So how do I enable it? If noone can help there, how do I get the precompiled kernel to support PPP (the second, less ideal alternative)? -- \_________________ \ http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~tonyh/ The Curling Pages \ The home of WinEd, Bombz and POPstar for RISC OS unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 18 23:56:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA04154 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:56:06 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA19323 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 00:23:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:40810 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19528-24650>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 02:22:25 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970945-11442>; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:06:10 -0400 Received: from red.csi.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.8.70]:45796 "EHLO red.csi.cam.ac.uk" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970971-11442>; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:04:09 -0400 Received: from dmf20 (helo=localhost) by red.csi.cam.ac.uk with local-smtp (Exim 1.92 #1) id 0ymnvS-0004XV-00; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 00:17:02 +0100 Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 00:17:02 +0100 (BST) From: David Forbes X-Sender: dmf20@red.csi.cam.ac.uk To: "Neil A. Carson" cc: John Lindley , ARMLinuxmailinglist Linux Subject: Re: State of Java? In-Reply-To: <35897A29.8F41719E@causality.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > Kaffe runs on NetBSD on the ARM, so a Linux port should be trivial It does? I tried compiling it from pkgsrc (supped midnight daily) and it said x86 only? Do I have to go somewhere special to get this? (Apologies if I'm being obtuse here...) Thanks, David. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 19 10:59:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA04541 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 10:59:14 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19410 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:26:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:1380 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10840-24650>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 13:25:16 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970860-2981>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 06:11:08 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:19581 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970800-2981> convert rfc822-to-8bit; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 06:10:46 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (LAA15709); Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:24:10 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:24:10 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: Tony Houghton cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Compiling adfs support In-Reply-To: <212585848%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Tony Houghton wrote: > Having compiled my own kernel I discovered that it doesn't support the > adfs mount type :-(. Looking at the config stuff, it doesn't appear to > be mentioned at all in make config or make menuconfig, but it is an > option in make xconfig. Unfortunately it stays stubbornly "greyed out" > (what do you call that under X)? So how do I enable it? Go to the 'Kernel maturity level' (I think it's in there) and say 'yes' to 'prompt for dodgy development stuff'. This will allow you to select the adfs stuff. Remember to select BOTH adfs things - there's one in the filing systems section and one in device drivers AFAICR. Good luck with the build, Phil -- Linux: The best things in life are free. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 19 12:30:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA04617 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 12:30:21 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA19420 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 12:57:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:62280 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10677-7151>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 14:56:50 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970793-2981>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 07:42:46 -0400 Received: from m2.findmail.com ([209.185.96.135]:3126 "HELO m2.findmail.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970796-2981>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 07:42:28 -0400 Received: (qmail 4796 invoked by uid 505); 19 Jun 1998 11:56:09 -0000 Date: 19 Jun 1998 11:56:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19980619115609.4794.qmail@m2.findmail.com> Received: from 199.33.81.32 (via http) from to list "linux-arm" From: "Jonathan Peace" Subject: Re: problems with swap in 2.0.33? In-Reply-To: <199805121846.TAA02403@odie.barnet.ac.uk> To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Did you get Netscape working Matthew? > > Hi. I've been trying to compile lesstif (I'd like to try to get Netscape > working to demo at Wakefield ;-) and I keep getting memory exhausted > errors. I created a /var/swap _file_, mkswap'ed it, and used swapon. > I'm still getting out of memory problems. Using top while the linker > is running shows that it never touches the swap (either /dev/hda4 or > /var/swap). I compiled a new swapon from linux-utils 2.7.1, but that > didn't improve matters. Anyone know? > > (Replies this evening would be good since I'm away all tomorrow..) > > -- > Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew > "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox > Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ > %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu > > ----- Original Message: http://www.findmail.com/list/linux-arm/?start=494 Start a FREE e-mail list at http://www.FindMail.com/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 19 14:21:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA04818 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 14:21:14 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19443 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 14:48:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:38199 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10755-7151>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 16:45:27 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970867-2981>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 09:12:55 -0400 Received: from mrbounce.compsoc.man.ac.uk ([192.84.78.5]:4129 "EHLO mrbounce.compsoc.man.ac.uk" ident: "rgrint") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970925-2981>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 09:06:57 -0400 Received: from localhost (rgrint@localhost) by mrbounce.compsoc.man.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA28484; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 14:21:35 +0100 Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 14:21:35 +0100 (BST) From: Simon Richard Grint To: Jonathan Peace cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: problems with swap in 2.0.33? In-Reply-To: <19980619115609.4794.qmail@m2.findmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On 19 Jun 1998, Jonathan Peace wrote: > Did you get Netscape working Matthew? > I know he didn`t get it working for Wakefield > > Hi. I've been trying to compile lesstif (I'd like to try to get Netscape > > working to demo at Wakefield ;-) and I keep getting memory exhausted > > errors. I created a /var/swap _file_, mkswap'ed it, and used swapon. It`s not because of the memory available on your machine, or the swap. There`s something fundermental about ARMlinux`s memory management which means you can`t use it to compile something as large as netscape Regards Rich unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 19 15:23:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA04862 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 15:23:17 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi ([128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA19448 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 15:10:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:38199 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10484-500>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 17:07:48 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970814-2981>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 09:16:32 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:16491 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970908-2981>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 09:03:13 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id NAA04768; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 13:47:46 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199806191247.NAA04768@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: problems with swap in 2.0.33? To: jepeace@hotmail.com (Jonathan Peace) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 13:47:45 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <19980619115609.4794.qmail@m2.findmail.com> from "Jonathan Peace" at Jun 19, 98 11:56:09 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Jonathan Peace > > Did you get Netscape working Matthew? > > > > > > Hi. I've been trying to compile lesstif (I'd like to try to get Netscape > > working to demo at Wakefield ;-) and I keep getting memory exhausted No, I didn't. I'm not really terribly interested in X stuff, and the ELF stuff should bypass the problems I was having; but I simply haven't done it. I've been working on the remount-filesystem-on-a-different- mount-point problem, but I'll build myself an ELF environment sometime in the next week. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 19 16:22:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA04909 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 16:22:15 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA19480 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 16:49:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:16968 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19681-29448>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:46:52 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970814-2981>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:22:44 -0400 Received: from cptsg4.univ-mrs.fr ([139.124.7.104]:3539 "HELO cptsg4" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970925-2981>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:21:56 -0400 Received: from cptsg4 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cptsg4 (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA04761 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 17:33:10 +0200 Message-ID: <358A84B6.167E@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 17:33:10 +0200 From: Vincent PENNE Organization: Centre de Physique Theorique de Marseille X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; IRIX64 6.2 IP28) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: problems with swap in 2.0.33? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Stefan Hanske wrote: > > I've tried to compile lesstif and I know the problem. I can remember it > has to do with the older machines and the max. tasksize of 10 MB for > those. One solution could be to type `ulimit` which should tell linux > that it can give more than a 10 MB for programs. No, the problem comes from the use of shared library with a.out format : gcc in the standard arm-linux distribution use the shared version of libc. Since the a.out libc shared library is located on a fixed address (about at 12Mb), a program using it cannot allocate more than 12Mb of memory. I have compiled a new version of gcc, but a static version, which is now able to alocate far more memory (it has been up to 50Mb of virtual memory used !) Of course, the executables of gcc are now a bit bigger, since they contain the libc library, but as they are quite big anyway, it doesn't make a big difference ... Vincent. -- /==========================================================\ | Vincent PENNE, Centre de Physique Theorique | |Tel. (0033)4 91 26 95 04 CNRS - LUMINY - Case 907 | |Fax. (0033)4 91 26 95 53 F-13288 MARSEILLE CEDEX 9 | |Email: penne@cpt.univ-mrs.fr FRANCE | |http://www.cpt.univ-mrs.fr | \==========================================================/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 19 16:23:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA04913 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 16:23:17 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi ([128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA19463 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 15:56:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:50518 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10391-7151>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 17:51:13 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970873-2981>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 10:26:49 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:43356 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970992-2981>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 10:21:27 -0400 Received: from mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15613; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 16:34:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.157]) by mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA153424; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 16:34:23 +0200 Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf2) id AA15371; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 16:34:21 +0200 Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 16:34:20 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: Simon Richard Grint Cc: Jonathan Peace , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: problems with swap in 2.0.33? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, Simon Richard Grint wrote: > > Did you get Netscape working Matthew? > > > > I know he didn`t get it working for Wakefield > > > > Hi. I've been trying to compile lesstif (I'd like to try to get Netscape > > > working to demo at Wakefield ;-) and I keep getting memory exhausted > > > errors. I created a /var/swap _file_, mkswap'ed it, and used swapon. > > It`s not because of the memory available on your machine, or the swap. > There`s something fundermental about ARMlinux`s memory management which > means you can`t use it to compile something as large as netscape > I've tried to compile lesstif and I know the problem. I can remember it has to do with the older machines and the max. tasksize of 10 MB for those. One solution could be to type `ulimit` which should tell linux that it can give more than a 10 MB for programs. The other possibility is that you have the -g compiler flag set which will lead you to a ca. 12 MB library file 'cause all the debugging info like filenames, function names & c-file line number markers (don't know how this is called) are left in there so that gdb can give a verbose output if something goes wrong. Just turn it off since there's no gdb available for public at the moment. ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 19 17:47:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA04953 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 17:47:13 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA19510 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:14:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:15367 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT2") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10756-500>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 20:14:03 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970801-2981>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 12:54:21 -0400 Received: from crl.dec.com ([192.58.206.2]:1494 "EHLO crl.dec.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970897-2981>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 12:44:16 -0400 Received: from quabbin.crl.dec.com (quabbin.crl.dec.com [16.11.0.45]) by crl.dec.com (8.8.8/RWD-1.2) with SMTP id MAA02759; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 12:58:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by quabbin.crl.dec.com; id AA10759; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 12:58:14 -0400 Received: by cambridge.crl.dec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 13:01:22 -0400 Message-Id: From: Edwin Foo To: "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Cc: "'john@BITS.bris.ac.uk'" , Edwin Foo , Jamey Hicks , "'Deborah Wallach'" Subject: Re: State of Java? Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 13:01:20 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Neil A. Carson wrote: >John Lindley wrote: >> > >> > What tools currently exist for Java development under ARM Linux? I've >> > visited the Java-Linux site, which has JDK Linux ports for four >> > platforms, but there's no mention of anything ARM related. A JavaVM, JRE, >> > etc. would prove useful! Or has anything come out from Corel yet, who >> > appear to be looking at Java support for ARMLinux? >> > >> ATM there is a freeware compiler called guavav. I haven't yet tried >> compiling itbut AFAIK this is the only java compiler available for Linux >> outside the JDK. For compiling I've found thesource to a virtual machine >> for Linux but I can't remember the exact name.Thereis a link from >> www.doc.ic.ac.uk. >Kaffe runs on NetBSD on the ARM, so a Linux port should be trivial >because all the changes were ARM- rather than OS-dependant from memory >(apart from a couple of things which depend on the locations of >registers within a jump buffer, yuck). It wasn't quite so trivial. =) It took me about 2 weeks of solid work, actually. But then, I'm not a Kaffe guru either -- someone on this mailing list with better hacking skills than me can probably duplicate the effort in far less time. I was forwarded this by a colleague, so as I am not on the list please include me explicitly in any replies/questions. I have been working with Linux/ARM and the Kaffe JVM in the course of my thesis research here, so among other things, we have a port of Kaffe to Linux/ARM. Unfortunately, I'm not ready/allowed to release my patches yet. But I can give a big hint to all would-be porters of Kaffe out there. I presume that you're trying to port to one of the Acorn machines (I'm doing my work on a completely different StrongARM-based platform), but the following should apply anyway. Use the interpreter, not the translator/JIT, a SP_OFFSET value of 9 (this number is extremely important in getting multithreading to work), and do _not_ use the latest 0.10.1 distribution. You'll have to use a kaffe-snap.tar.gz snapshot from the Kaffe CVS repository to take advantage of some patches made after 0.10.1 was released. Look at the Kaffe homepage (www.kaffe.org) for more information on where to find it. -Edwin ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Edwin Foo | MIT Computer Science - BS '98, MEng '99 efoo@mit.edu | Compaq Computer Corp. - Cambridge Research Lab efoo@crl.dec.com | Residential Computing Consultant (RCC) Developer "Love must be sincere; Hate what is evil; cling to what is good." http://hesed.mit.edu/~efoo - Romans 12:9 <>< ------------------------------------------------------------------------ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 19 18:54:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA05015 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:54:09 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA19519 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 19:21:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:18484 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20277-7151>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 21:20:32 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970880-2981>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 14:04:05 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:23018 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970910-2981>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 13:54:29 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (TAA03057); Fri, 19 Jun 1998 19:05:09 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 19:05:09 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: ARM Linux Subject: Compiling ELF glibc Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi! I'm currently trying to get ELF working on my box in time for the South-East show. I just tried compiling glibc and it complained at me that my makeinfo version was too old. I've downloaded the latest texinfo (3.12) that I could find and tried compiling that, but it died horribly, and it looked like something that wasn't a wrong ./configure option or something similar. I somehow forsee grave problems in getting the required binaries to compile properly - after all, not much else has compiled without a lot of work so far. So I was wondering, since there are others out there with compiled and working ELF stuff, would one of those people mind sending me pre-compiled copies of the following: make 3.75 texinfo 3.11 awk 3.0 autoconf 2.12 If it makes any difference, I'm using an sa110 with 3.0.34. These are the packages that glibc says it needs in order to compile. I'd be really grateful if anyone would send these to me, preferably as soon as possible, since the show is starting to loom. Thanks VERY much in advance, Phil -- Linux: A penguin which jumps through Windows and leaps over Gates. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 19 20:09:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA05061 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 20:09:36 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA19530 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 20:36:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:55628 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20437-7151>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:35:48 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970925-2981>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 14:58:51 -0400 Received: from mail.corelcomputer.com ([209.167.41.130]:3463 "EHLO cccpo.corelcomputer.com" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970989-2981>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 14:45:18 -0400 Received: from cccmail.corelcomputer.com ([209.167.41.133]) by cccpo.corelcomputer.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with ESMTP id 163 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 14:59:54 -0400 Received: from corelcomputer.com ([10.1.100.68]) by cccmail.corelcomputer.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with ESMTP id 266; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 14:58:24 -0400 Message-ID: <358AB4FE.AB99678F@corelcomputer.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 14:59:10 -0400 From: "Scott Bambrough" Organization: Corel Computer Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Phil Norman CC: ARM Linux Subject: Re: Compiling ELF glibc References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I had this problem as well for a long time. It is not serious, you just don't get info files. You can remove manual from the list of subdirs in Makefile and it won't try to build them. Phil Norman wrote: > > Hi! > > I'm currently trying to get ELF working on my box in time for the > South-East show. I just tried compiling glibc and it complained at me > that my makeinfo version was too old. I've downloaded the latest texinfo > (3.12) that I could find and tried compiling that, but it died horribly, > and it looked like something that wasn't a wrong ./configure option or > something similar. > > I somehow forsee grave problems in getting the required binaries to > compile properly - after all, not much else has compiled without a lot of > work so far. > > So I was wondering, since there are others out there with compiled and > working ELF stuff, would one of those people mind sending me pre-compiled > copies of the following: > > make 3.75 > texinfo 3.11 > awk 3.0 > autoconf 2.12 > > If it makes any difference, I'm using an sa110 with 3.0.34. > > These are the packages that glibc says it needs in order to compile. I'd > be really grateful if anyone would send these to me, preferably as soon > as possible, since the show is starting to loom. Thanks VERY much in > advance, > Phil > > -- > Linux: A penguin which jumps through Windows and leaps over Gates. > > Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. > email: forrey@eh.org > URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman > > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 19 20:27:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA05077 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 20:27:43 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA19536 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 20:54:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:19049 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19655-500>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:54:24 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970932-2981>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 15:25:27 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:27790 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970986-2981>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 15:07:48 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (UAA07230); Fri, 19 Jun 1998 20:21:58 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 20:21:58 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: ARM Linux Subject: Re: Compiling ELF glibc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, Phil Norman wrote: > make 3.75 > texinfo 3.11 > awk 3.0 > autoconf 2.12 I downloaded new versions of these and tried building them. I managed to get awk and autoconf working, but I got a load of undefined references when making make and texinfo. Both configured ok but they can't find references, including one called _xstat. Anyone know how I might solve this? Cheers, Phil -- Rule of programming #1: Everything that can go wrong will go wrong, except when you're running the debugger. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Jun 20 00:18:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA05330 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 00:18:07 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA19602 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 00:45:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:51993 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20368-500>; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 02:43:59 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970936-2981>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 19:28:08 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1898 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970989-2981>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 19:22:49 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0ynAWg-00087n-00; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 00:24:58 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Phil Norman cc: ARM Linux Subject: Re: Compiling ELF glibc In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 19 Jun 1998 19:05:09 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 00:24:57 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >South-East show. I just tried compiling glibc and it complained at me >that my makeinfo version was too old. I've downloaded the latest texinfo You can ignore that. It just means you won't get the info pages. The only important things from your list are make and awk. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Jun 20 10:40:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA05647 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 10:40:51 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19654 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 11:08:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:35360 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19596-7151>; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 13:06:59 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971098-2981>; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 05:15:01 -0400 Received: from methan.in-berlin.de ([160.45.10.13]:2846 "HELO methan.in-berlin.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971106-2981>; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 04:49:26 -0400 Received: by methan.in-berlin.de (Smail3.2.0.98) from hirsch.in-berlin.de (192.109.42.6) with esmtp id ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 11:05:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by hirsch.in-berlin.de (Smail3.2.0.98) from yoda with uucp id ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 11:05:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: by yoda.in-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1 #0) id m0ynLUf-000000C; Sat, 20 Jun 98 09:07 GMT Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 10:03:19 +0200 From: Stefan Voss To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Compiling ELF glibc Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Individual Network (IN), Berlin, Germany X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40b for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO In message , Phil Norman wrote: > On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, Phil Norman wrote: > > > make 3.75 > > texinfo 3.11 > > awk 3.0 > > autoconf 2.12 > > I downloaded new versions of these and tried building them. I managed to > get awk and autoconf working, but I got a load of undefined references > when making make and texinfo. Both configured ok but they can't find > references, including one called _xstat. Anyone know how I might solve this? Unresolved references to _xstat? I can remember to have this problem as well. There are two versions of stat.h. One is found in /usr/include/sys/stat.h, the other one somewhere in /usr/local/arm-unknown-linuxaout or /usr/arm-unknown-linuxaout. The latter one should be found (and included) first in your compiler's include search path. You can determine where your compiler looks for include files by running it as "gcc -v ..." It seems that you have progressed further than me. I'm still unsure how to go from a.out to ELF. So far I thought I have to do 1. Compile binutils 2.9.1.0.6 for a.out 2. Compile gcc 2.8.1 for a.out 3. Install these new binutils and gcc 4. Compile binutils for ELF 5. Compile gcc for ELF 6. Compile glibc for ELF At the moment I'm stuck on step 4. I compile binutils that produce ELF but run on an a.out system. Is this some sort of cross compiling? Or I am going the wrong way? > > Cheers, > Phil > Regards, Stefan -- Stefan Voss (voss@yoda.in-berlin.de) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Jun 20 10:40:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA05645 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 10:40:51 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19651 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 11:08:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:35360 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19917-500>; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 13:06:39 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971097-2981>; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 05:14:44 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:15274 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971104-2981>; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 04:49:14 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (KAA10994); Sat, 20 Jun 1998 10:04:51 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 10:04:51 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: Philip Blundell cc: ARM Linux Subject: Re: Compiling ELF glibc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Sat, 20 Jun 1998, Philip Blundell wrote: > You can ignore that. It just means you won't get the info pages. > > The only important things from your list are make and awk. Fair enough. Unfortunately, make is one of the things I can't get to compile. Anyone got an a.out version of make 3.75? Cheers, Phil -- Rule of programming #1: Everything that can go wrong will go wrong, except when you're running the debugger. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 22 10:48:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk (sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk [128.86.8.45]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA06822 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:48:00 +0100 Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk by sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk with UK SMTP (PP); Sat, 20 Jun 1998 11:55:37 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19665 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 11:54:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:27661 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19832-7151>; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 13:53:56 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971030-2981>; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 06:25:47 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:33073 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971115-2981>; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 06:02:47 -0400 Received: from (causality.com) [158.152.208.192] by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0ynKjI-0005zz-00; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 10:18:41 +0000 Message-ID: <3589A9C7.6BA0A7E6@causality.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 00:59:03 +0100 From: "Neil A. Carson" Organization: Causality Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Forbes CC: John Lindley , ARMLinuxmailinglist Linux Subject: Re: State of Java? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO ARM support is *certainly* in the latest Kaffe version. Try ftp.transvirtual.com. from memory, or see the port-arm32 announcement from the guy who ported it. I reckon it shouldn't take more than a few minutes to get a linux version up. -- Neil A. Carson unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 22 10:48:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk (sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk [128.86.8.45]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA06825 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:48:04 +0100 Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk by sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk with UK SMTP (PP); Sat, 20 Jun 1998 14:19:31 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19681 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 14:18:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:25442 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1641-500>; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 16:16:19 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970806-2981>; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 08:59:14 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1921 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970850-2981>; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 08:58:56 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0ynNIr-0000Cs-00; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 14:03:33 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Phil Norman cc: ARM Linux Subject: Re: Compiling ELF glibc In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 19 Jun 1998 20:21:58 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 14:03:32 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >when making make and texinfo. Both configured ok but they can't find >references, including one called _xstat. Anyone know how I might solve this? That smells of a header file/library mismatch. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 22 10:48:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk (sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk [128.86.8.45]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA06831 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:48:11 +0100 Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk by sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk with UK SMTP (PP); Sun, 21 Jun 1998 11:31:39 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19837 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 11:28:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:33594 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10692-24650>; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 13:28:10 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970872-2981>; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 06:10:42 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:2206 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970880-2981>; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 06:08:27 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yngcB-00010r-00; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 10:40:47 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: binutils bug Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 10:40:46 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, Can people who were having trouble with a.out targets using my latest binutils try this patch? It seems to fix the problem for me. p. --- gas/write.c~ Sun Jun 7 00:44:19 1998 +++ gas/write.c Sun Jun 21 10:33:48 1998 @@ -2645,7 +2645,7 @@ seg_reloc_count++; #if !(defined (TC_V850) && defined (OBJ_ELF)) #if !(defined (TC_M68K) && defined (OBJ_ELF)) -#if !(defined (TC_ARM) && defined (OBJ_ELF)) +#if !(defined (TC_ARM)) #if !defined (TC_I386) || !(defined (OBJ_ELF) || defined (OBJ_COFF)) || defined (TE_PE) add_number += S_GET_VALUE (add_symbolP); #endif unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 22 10:48:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk (sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk [128.86.8.45]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA06834 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:48:16 +0100 Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk by sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk with UK SMTP (PP); Sat, 20 Jun 1998 11:49:03 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19658 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 11:47:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:56137 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20127-7151>; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 13:47:10 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970990-2981>; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 06:25:35 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:17007 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971088-2981>; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 05:55:13 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (LAA27514); Sat, 20 Jun 1998 11:11:25 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 11:11:25 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: Stefan Voss cc: ARM Linux Subject: Re: Compiling ELF glibc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Sat, 20 Jun 1998, Stefan Voss wrote: > It seems that you have progressed further than me. I'm still unsure how to > go from a.out to ELF. So far I thought I have to do > > 1. Compile binutils 2.9.1.0.6 for a.out > 2. Compile gcc 2.8.1 for a.out > 3. Install these new binutils and gcc > 4. Compile binutils for ELF > 5. Compile gcc for ELF > 6. Compile glibc for ELF > > At the moment I'm stuck on step 4. I compile binutils that produce ELF but > run on an a.out system. Is this some sort of cross compiling? > > Or I am going the wrong way? Thanks very much - I'll give it a go. I've been told that, to compile something which produces ELF but runs on aout, you do... ./configure --host=arm-linuxaout --target=arm-linux (plus any other args you need) Good luck, Phil -- Linux: A penguin which jumps through Windows and leaps over Gates. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 22 10:48:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk (sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk [128.86.8.45]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA06837 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:48:20 +0100 Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk by sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk with UK SMTP (PP); Sat, 20 Jun 1998 18:43:03 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA19712 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 18:41:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:2066 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20242-24650>; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 20:41:25 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970854-2981>; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 13:23:56 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:2644 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970804-2981>; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 13:23:33 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA06282 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 18:40:03 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: ARMlinux mailing list Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 18:43:06 +0100 Message-ID: <944fc79mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Sorry about this Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO More compiler tales of woe, I'm afraid... I've tried /everything/ mentioned in this list, but nothing seems to help. The compiler just wont play ball. Can anyone tell me exactly what files need fetching, and what commands need entering, starting from a /completely/ /clean/ 2.0.34 ARMlinux installation, in order to get a compiler running, which is capable of compiling (as an example) circle3.xbpl13 (www.circlemud.org), or indeed, anything other than 'hello world' ? I'd be (almost) forever in debt of anyone who could spare the time to do this (which isnt small) since I lose my ethernet access in a week (I'm going home!) and therefore lose my ability to reinstall parts of armlinux easily, since I dont have harddisc space to burn... Thanks! -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 22 10:48:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk (sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk [128.86.8.45]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA06843 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:48:28 +0100 Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk by sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk with UK SMTP (PP); Sun, 21 Jun 1998 14:32:36 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19855 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 14:29:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:30537 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20350-7151>; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 16:22:29 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971067-2981>; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 08:29:27 -0400 Received: from poseidon.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.34]:58620 "EHLO poseidon.tcp.net.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971053-2981>; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 08:29:07 -0400 Received: from tonyh (vt1-124.du.tcp.co.uk [195.80.1.124]) by poseidon.tcp.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8+antispam) with SMTP id NAA11480 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 13:46:17 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 13:31:12 +0100 From: Tony Houghton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Compiling adfs support Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <212585848%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40a for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.21beta MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO In message <212585848%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> Tony Houghton wrote: > Having compiled my own kernel I discovered that it doesn't support the > adfs mount type :-(. Looking at the config stuff, it doesn't appear to > be mentioned at all in make config or make menuconfig, but it is an > option in make xconfig. Unfortunately it stays stubbornly "greyed out" > (what do you call that under X)? So how do I enable it? I haven't booted Linux since, but I've had at least 2 replies with the same solution, so I'll take that as the right way to do it. Thanks. -- \_________________ \ http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~tonyh/ The Curling Pages \ The home of WinEd, Bombz and POPstar for RISC OS unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 22 10:48:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk (sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk [128.86.8.45]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA06849 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:48:35 +0100 Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk by sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk with UK SMTP (PP); Sun, 21 Jun 1998 16:17:36 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA19874 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 16:14:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:44893 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20266-24650>; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 18:13:50 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970934-2981>; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 10:56:10 -0400 Received: from poseidon.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.34]:59478 "EHLO poseidon.tcp.net.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970947-2981>; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 10:52:51 -0400 Received: from tonyh (vt2-136.du.tcp.co.uk [195.80.1.136]) by poseidon.tcp.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8+antispam) with SMTP id QAA15132 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 16:10:13 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 16:03:06 +0100 From: Tony Houghton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: !Linux booting problem Message-ID: <842cba5948%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40a for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.21beta MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Out of the blue !Linux has stopped being able to boot by double-clicking. I have to run it from the command-line, specifying the kernel I want on the RISC OS partition, then typing root=/dev/hda3. The kernel I use when doing this is the same as the /vmlinuz I'm trying to boot from on hda3. The symptoms are that after printing the "Press ALT to access bootloader" message and accessing the disc again (presumably to load the kernel from hda3) it just hangs and I have to press the reset button. The first time, my HDD failed to start up again until I switched off altogether for a few seconds! The strange thing is, I haven't really changed anything, I have still got a valid kernel at /vmlinuz and /etc/boot.conf isn't corrupted. The problem first started while /vmlinuz was actually still the precompiled kernel from the FTP site which was working fine before. -- \_________________ \ http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~tonyh/ The Curling Pages \ The home of WinEd, Bombz and POPstar for RISC OS unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 22 10:48:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk (sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk [128.86.8.45]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA06857 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:48:43 +0100 Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk by sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk with UK SMTP (PP); Sun, 21 Jun 1998 10:37:52 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19829 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 10:36:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:7182 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10798-500>; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 12:36:11 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970863-2981>; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 05:18:42 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:1496 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970859-2981>; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 05:18:37 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA20046 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 10:35:34 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: ARMlinux mailing list Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 07:49:56 +0100 Message-ID: <98d05d5mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: YES!!! Sucess!! Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hm. hope the Subject for this doesnt end up with people binning it... That wouldnt do! I'd just like to say a BIG thankyou to all those here for helping me with the compiler probs. All the bits of advice / tips I've garnered have at last led to a working installation of Linux and GCC. Thankyou all! note: Kira - if you're on the list, thanks also. if not, I'll see you on IRC. Bye (happy again!) -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 22 11:09:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail-relay2.ja.net (mail-relay2.ja.net [193.63.105.201]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA06899 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:09:56 +0100 Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk by mail-relay2.ja.net with UK SMTP (PP); Sat, 20 Jun 1998 18:54:27 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA19708 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 18:02:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:23417 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10803-29448>; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 20:02:35 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970856-2981>; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 12:45:50 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:2552 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970804-2981>; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 12:43:39 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA02729 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 18:00:02 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: ARMlinux mailing list Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 18:03:00 +0100 Message-ID: <94150c2mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Problem with ARCinv6 cards Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi there! I dunno if this has been reported, but ARMlinux wont detect any harddiscs on the second port of my APDL ArcinV6 card. Is this an option, or a genuine bug ? Thanks! -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 22 11:23:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA06932 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:23:32 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20043 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:05:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:1028 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10270-24650>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:55:24 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971115-2981>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 03:31:41 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:48548 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971117-2981>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 03:31:06 -0400 Received: from mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16934 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:48:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.157]) by mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA16580 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:48:53 +0200 Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf2) id AA13337; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:48:52 +0200 Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:48:52 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: !Linux booting problem In-Reply-To: <842cba5948%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Sun, 21 Jun 1998, Tony Houghton wrote: > The strange thing is, I haven't really changed anything, I have still > got a valid kernel at /vmlinuz and /etc/boot.conf isn't corrupted. The > problem first started while /vmlinuz was actually still the precompiled > kernel from the FTP site which was working fine before. Have you compiled a new kernel and overwritten the old one??? Then you need to run loadmap again since the location of the kernel on the disc will have changed, so the values in /boot/boot.map *need* to be updated. ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 22 11:23:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA06935 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:23:33 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20047 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:30:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:43318 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11104-29448>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:26:13 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971088-2981>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 03:59:04 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:55381 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971092-2981>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 03:51:05 -0400 Received: from mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19365 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:08:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (root@aixgraf2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.157]) by mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA35654 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:08:25 +0200 Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf2) id AA22395; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:32:37 +0200 Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:32:36 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Compiling ELF glibc In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, Phil Norman wrote: > I downloaded new versions of these and tried building them. I managed to > get awk and autoconf working, but I got a load of undefined references > when making make and texinfo. Both configured ok but they can't find > references, including one called _xstat. Anyone know how I might solve this? I got these when compiling tkdesk. It seems that xstat is defined in the c library header files (maybe for internal use only), but there is no reference in the c library binary. Don't know how this comes. ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 22 11:23:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA06938 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:23:36 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20020 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 04:38:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:24434 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20200-500>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 06:26:40 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971047-2981>; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:14:25 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:3423 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971045-2981>; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:14:14 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id CAA28384 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:31:58 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: ARMlinux mailing list Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:35:02 +0100 Message-ID: <9f407b4mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Boot probs Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Sorry to ask this question (I know someone else had the same problem yesterday) but the solution was never posted to the list, so could someone mail me the thing? I've got the same problem as someone else - the kernel has been copied, boot.conf has been made, and the root symlink is present, but the bootloader hangs at the press alt for bootloader point. any help appreciated... PS. I will, after I've installed my A5000, produce a 'guide' including as many of my installation woes as I can remember... Cya all! -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 22 11:23:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA06940 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:23:37 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20023 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 04:38:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:24434 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20207-500>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 06:26:41 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971050-2981>; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:18:07 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:3436 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971048-2981>; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:17:43 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id CAA28617 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:35:32 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: ARMlinux mailing list Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:38:43 +0100 Message-ID: <9f45dd4mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: To those who care about this... Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I dont know if anyone's interested, but I have some sucesses to report... Window manager fun! wm2 - this compiles faultlessly after the appropriate symlink to the X11 includes is inserted... AmiWM - also compiles without fuss Window Maker - compiles as long as you disable some graphics libraries. specifically the JPEG one, but I cant remember if TIFF or PNG were problems. Enlightenment - well, when I get my hands on it!!! 'R' - Havent written it yet, but hope to produce a RiscOS lookylike... I'll add more to the list as I go on, I'm sure... Does anyone think it's worth me making packages including the binary, should the licenses allow? -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 22 11:23:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA06947 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:23:39 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA19898 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:20:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:53015 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10672-7151>; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 23:20:38 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970903-2981>; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 16:02:32 -0400 Received: from methan.in-berlin.de ([160.45.10.13]:1807 "HELO methan.in-berlin.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970859-2981>; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 16:02:14 -0400 Received: by methan.in-berlin.de (Smail3.2.0.98) from hirsch.in-berlin.de (192.109.42.6) with esmtp id ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:19:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by hirsch.in-berlin.de (Smail3.2.0.98) from yoda with uucp id ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:19:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: by yoda.in-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1 #0) id m0ynsSl-000000C; Sun, 21 Jun 98 20:19 GMT Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:15:03 +0200 From: Stefan Voss To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: binutils bug Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Individual Network (IN), Berlin, Germany X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40b for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO In message , Philip Blundell wrote: > > Can people who were having trouble with a.out targets using my latest > binutils try this patch? It seems to fix the problem for me. Works for me, too. No problems building gas for a.out with the patch. No problems building gcc for a.out using the newly build gas. > > p. > Regards, Stefan -- Stefan Voss (voss@yoda.in-berlin.de) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 22 12:30:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA07390 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:30:35 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20081 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:58:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:49185 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10498-7151>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:55:11 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971108-2981>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:36:21 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:26764 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970863-2981>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:33:40 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (MAA07801); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:51:40 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:51:40 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: ARM Linux Subject: glibc/gcc problems. Any ideas? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi! As I've mentioned before, I've been trying to compile up a set of ELF compilation tools. I'm currently on the stage of getting glibc to work, and am having a few problems. I compiled up gcc after configuring it so: ./configure --prefix=/usr/elf --host=arm-linuxaout --target=arm-linux And I've compiled binutils with exactly the same arguments (although I had to make symlinks in /usr/elf/bin since binutils created all the binaries with names like arm-linux-ld and arm-linux-as). Now, when I come to compile glibc, with the following configure line: ./configure --prefix=/usr/elf --enable-addons=crypt,linuxthreads --build=arm-linuxaout --host=arm-linux I currently get the following error when making: gcc assert.c -c -O -Wall -Winline -Wno-parentheses -Wstrict-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -g -I. -I.. -I../include -I../libio -I../sysdeps/arm/elf -I../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/arm -I../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux -I../sysdeps/gnu -I../sysdeps/unix/common -I../sysdeps/unix/mman -I../sysdeps/unix/inet -I../sysdeps/unix/sysv -I../sysdeps/unix/arm -I../sysdeps/unix -I../sysdeps/posix -I../sysdeps/arm/fpu -I../sysdeps/arm -I../sysdeps/wordsize-32 -I../sysdeps/ieee754 -I../sysdeps/libm-ieee754 -I../sysdeps/generic -include ../include/libc-symbols.h -o assert.o assert.c:78: section attributes are not supported for this target make[1]: *** [assert.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/glibc-2.0.94/assert' make: *** [assert/subdir_lib] Error 2 This looks like a problem with the compiler (which is why I've included the configure line from that above). Any ideas anyone? BTW, I'm writing a how-to as I go along which should enable people in the future to compile up ELF stuff with fewer problems than I've having. Bye for now, and thanks in advance, Phil -- Rule of programming #3: The number of bugs which exist in a program is approximately equal to the square of the number of bugs which you think exist. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 22 12:50:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA07488 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:50:12 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA20088 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 13:17:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:40241 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10498-29448>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 15:15:29 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971120-2981>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:53:53 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:14995 "HELO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971122-2981>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:53:28 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yo5KE-00078g-00; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 13:03:54 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yo5KD-0007Ch-00; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 13:03:53 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Phil Norman cc: ARM Linux Subject: Re: glibc/gcc problems. Any ideas? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:51:40 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 13:03:53 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >./configure --prefix=/usr/elf --host=arm-linuxaout --target=arm-linux > >And I've compiled binutils with exactly the same arguments (although I >had to make symlinks in /usr/elf/bin since binutils created all the binaries >with names like arm-linux-ld and arm-linux-as). Actually, had you just done "--prefix=/usr" this would have just worked. GCC and binutils are smart enough to spot when you're building a cross-compiler and install it correctly in /usr/arm-linux/... >./configure --prefix=/usr/elf --enable-addons=crypt,linuxthreads >--build=arm-linuxaout --host=arm-linux You need to tell it what compiler to use. Try something like this: $ CC=arm-linux-gcc .../configure --prefix=/usr/arm-linux --enable-add-ons=... Otherwise it will use your native compiler which doesn't understand all the features needed for glibc. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 22 14:22:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA07625 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:22:20 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA20104 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:49:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:5654 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19437-29448>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:34:01 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970894-28915>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:01:26 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:21167 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971168-28915>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:56:40 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id NAA07591; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 13:46:57 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199806221246.NAA07591@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: glibc/gcc problems. Any ideas? To: pb@nexus.co.uk (Philip Blundell) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 13:46:55 +0100 (BST) Cc: P.C.F.Norman@exeter.ac.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Jun 22, 98 01:03:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Philip Blundell > > >./configure --prefix=/usr/elf --host=arm-linuxaout --target=arm-linux > > > >And I've compiled binutils with exactly the same arguments (although I > >had to make symlinks in /usr/elf/bin since binutils created all the binaries > >with names like arm-linux-ld and arm-linux-as). > > Actually, had you just done "--prefix=/usr" this would have just worked. GCC > and binutils are smart enough to spot when you're building a cross-compiler > and install it correctly in /usr/arm-linux/... the plan was to keep everything separate in case anything went wrong. > >./configure --prefix=/usr/elf --enable-addons=crypt,linuxthreads > >--build=arm-linuxaout --host=arm-linux > > You need to tell it what compiler to use. Try something like this: > > $ CC=arm-linux-gcc .../configure --prefix=/usr/arm-linux --enable-add-ons=... > > Otherwise it will use your native compiler which doesn't understand all the > features needed for glibc. ah, /usr/elf/bin was in his $PATH ahead of /usr/bin, and typing `gcc --version' reports 2.8.1 -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 22 14:41:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA07654 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:41:51 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20109 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 15:09:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:2417 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20319-500>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:50:30 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971088-28915>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:01:18 -0400 Received: from [209.167.40.231] ([209.167.40.231]:33484 "EHLO andrewm-pc.corelcomputer.com" ident: "IDENT-NONSENSE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971172-28915>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:00:24 -0400 Received: (from andrewm@localhost) by andrewm-pc.corelcomputer.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA01379 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:18:42 -0400 From: andrewm@corelcomputer.com Message-Id: <199806221318.JAA01379@andrewm-pc.corelcomputer.com> Subject: Re: Compiling ELF glibc To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:18:42 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from "Stefan Hanske" at Jun 22, 98 09:32:36 am Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > I got these when compiling tkdesk. It seems that xstat is defined in the > c library header files (maybe for internal use only), but there is no > reference in the c library binary. Don't know how this comes. I noticed that some packages expect LINUX_STAT_VERSION to be defined, but _my_ headers define _STAT_VER instead. -- Andrew E. Mileski mailto:andrewm@CorelComputer.com Software Developer Corel Computer Corp. http://www.CorelComputer.com/ OSC-CCC Technical Liaison http://www.NetWinder.org/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 22 14:41:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA07658 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:41:54 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20112 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 15:09:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:2417 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19728-24650>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:51:21 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971137-28915>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:15:16 -0400 Received: from relay3.UU.NET ([192.48.96.8]:1602 "EHLO relay3.UU.NET" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971157-28915>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:52:50 -0400 Received: from xedia.com by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: madway.xedia.com [198.202.232.199]) id QQeuwi06321; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:10:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tonga.xedia.com by xedia.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10039; Mon, 22 Jun 98 09:10:58 EDT Received: by tonga.xedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA00568; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:10:34 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:10:34 -0400 Message-Id: <199806221310.JAA00568@tonga.xedia.com> From: Paul Koning Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: penne@cptsu5.univ-mrs.fr Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: problems with swap in 2.0.33? References: <358A84B6.167E@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >>>>> "Vincent" == Vincent PENNE writes: Vincent> Stefan Hanske wrote: >> I've tried to compile lesstif and I know the problem. I can >> remember it has to do with the older machines and the >> max. tasksize of 10 MB for those. One solution could be to type >> `ulimit` which should tell linux that it can give more than a 10 >> MB for programs. Vincent> No, the problem comes from the use of shared library with Vincent> a.out format : gcc in the standard arm-linux distribution Vincent> use the shared version of libc. Since the a.out libc shared Vincent> library is located on a fixed address (about at 12Mb), a Vincent> program using it cannot allocate more than 12Mb of memory. Curious... why couldn't the allocator skip the space taken by libc and continue allocating after whatever place it ends? paul unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 22 16:16:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA07809 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:16:15 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA20138 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:43:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:20257 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10330-24650>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 18:43:36 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970804-28915>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:19:13 -0400 Received: from crl.dec.com ([192.58.206.2]:2095 "EHLO crl.dec.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971159-28915>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:52:58 -0400 Received: from quabbin.crl.dec.com (quabbin.crl.dec.com [16.11.0.45]) by crl.dec.com (8.8.8/RWD-1.2) with SMTP id LAA04923; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:07:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by quabbin.crl.dec.com; id AA23859; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:07:17 -0400 Received: by cambridge.crl.dec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:10:28 -0400 Message-Id: From: Edwin Foo To: "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Cc: "'dmf20@hermes.cam.ac.uk'" , "'john@BITS.bris.ac.uk'" , "'neil@causality.com'" , Jamey Hicks Subject: Re: State of Java? Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:10:17 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Neil Carson Wrote: >ARM support is *certainly* in the latest Kaffe version. Try >ftp.transvirtual.com. from memory, or see the port-arm32 announcement >from the guy who ported it. I reckon it shouldn't take more than a few >minutes to get a linux version up. My previous post was made in reference to Godmar Back's port of Kaffe to ARM/NetBSD. If you ftp the latest version -- kaffe-0.10.1.tar.gz from ftp.transvirtual.com, you will find a configuration file and thread-switch code for ARM/NetBSD. Note that you cannot use that file though; see my previous post for details. If you follow the hints I gave, it should not take that long. Maybe even a few minutes like you claim. The hard part is finding out those little gotchas in the first place, and that is what took me a couple of weeks. If you have ported anything in the past you will know what I mean -- it's easier said than done to simply type "configure; make; make install" and expect things to work when switching OSes, even when using the same CPU. -Edwin ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Edwin Foo | MIT Computer Science - BS '98, MEng '99 efoo@mit.edu | Compaq Computer Corp. - Cambridge Research Lab efoo@crl.dec.com | Residential Computing Consultant (RCC) Developer "Love must be sincere; Hate what is evil; cling to what is good." http://hesed.mit.edu/~efoo - Romans 12:9 <>< ------------------------------------------------------------------------ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 22 18:52:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA08300 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 18:52:54 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA20204 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 19:20:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:46342 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10578-24650>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 21:19:11 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970859-28915>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 13:57:04 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:22664 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT2") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970807-28915>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 13:56:45 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id SAA08288; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 18:47:18 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199806221747.SAA08288@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Changing the display in X To: Chris@eganc.demon.co.uk (Chris Egan) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 18:47:17 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <485a4df032Chris@eganc.demon.co.uk> from "Chris Egan" at Jun 22, 98 06:57:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Chris Egan > fvwm2 ATM. What I'd like to know is how to change the resolution and > colour depth for X. I expected to find a configuration file in > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/ but there seems to be nothing of the kind. I'm fairly I don't /think/ you can right now. However, Geert has some funky new console code which is going into 2.1 as we speak, so things are set to change. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 22 18:52:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA08301 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 18:52:54 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA20207 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 19:20:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:46342 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10767-500>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 21:19:52 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970807-28915>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:00:45 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:58116 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970857-28915>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 13:57:39 -0400 Received: from mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA05112 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 20:16:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from aixterm1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixterm1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.41]) by mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA41074 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 20:16:07 +0200 Received: (from shanske@localhost) by aixterm1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id UAA42520; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 20:16:06 +0200 (METDST) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 20:16:06 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixterm1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Changing the display in X In-Reply-To: <485a4df032Chris@eganc.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Chris Egan wrote: > I have recently installed ArmLinux, and have got X working and I'm using > fvwm2 ATM. What I'd like to know is how to change the resolution and > colour depth for X. I expected to find a configuration file in > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/ but there seems to be nothing of the kind. I'm fairly > new to all this and would appreciate some pointing me in the right > direction. Sorry, you won't be able to do this once ARMLinux is running. The server uses the display that is active at the time you start linux. So, if you want to have other resolutions under X11, you have to switch the mode *before* starting linux. Note that linux only supports up to 1280 x 1024 x 256. ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 23 00:50:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA08845 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 00:50:49 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA20380 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:18:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:31342 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT2") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19550-500>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 03:17:55 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970961-28915>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 19:58:30 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:1866 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970967-28915>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 19:53:52 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth204.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.204]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id BAA07350 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:12:44 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: ARMlinux mailing list Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:16:23 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Hmm. memory... Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I seem to be running out of memory when I try to compile GIMP. the box /doesnt/ seem to want to use it's swap space (it has a total of 88Mb including swap (40Mb is swap)) and 2Mb VRAM I heard that some problem exists with programs not being allowed to use more than a set maximum of memory.... -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 23 09:23:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA09222 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:23:36 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20529 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:51:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:3448 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10293-500>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:49:20 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971037-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 04:29:39 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:16792 "HELO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971022-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 04:29:06 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yoOiL-00081B-00; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:46:05 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yoOiK-00006b-00; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:46:04 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Ian Molton cc: ARMlinux mailing list Subject: Re: Hmm. memory... In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:16:23 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:46:04 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >I heard that some problem exists with programs not being allowed to use >more than a set maximum of memory.... It's not a problem. Read the manual page for ulimit. (and this sort of question isn't ARM specific, so it doesn't really belong on this mailing list) p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 23 10:17:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA09278 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:17:51 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20551 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:45:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:61772 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10229-7151>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:37:31 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970892-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 05:17:33 -0400 Received: from red.csi.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.8.70]:51607 "EHLO red.csi.cam.ac.uk" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970899-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 05:17:13 -0400 Received: from dmf20 (helo=localhost) by red.csi.cam.ac.uk with local-smtp (Exim 1.92 #1) id 0yoP13-0007RV-00; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:05:25 +0100 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:05:24 +0100 (BST) From: David Forbes X-Sender: dmf20@red.csi.cam.ac.uk To: Philip Blundell cc: Ian Molton , ARMlinux mailing list Subject: Re: Hmm. memory... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > >I heard that some problem exists with programs not being allowed to use > >more than a set maximum of memory.... > > It's not a problem. Read the manual page for ulimit. If you can't find a separate man page for ulimit, you might have to look in the bash man page (or tcsh if you're using that, in which case you'll be looking for unlimit instead). D. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 23 11:00:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA09308 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:00:02 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20564 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:27:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:26931 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10458-29448>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:24:19 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971040-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 06:04:19 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:3187 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970892-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 06:02:48 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (LAA24792); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:22:05 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:22:05 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: Ian Molton cc: ARMlinux mailing list Subject: Re: Hmm. memory... (and a bit of ELF glibc) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Ian Molton wrote: > I seem to be running out of memory when I try to compile GIMP. *giggle* Don't try compiling the GIMP. Well, not unless you have absolutely TONS of hard drive space, or if you have an ELF compiler+binutils. I say this because the GIMP contains approximately 100 'plug-ins' which all (using the standard a.out compiler+binutils) have to be statically linked with the right libraries. This results in 100 3-meg (ish) binaries. Not your friend. This is one of the reasons I'm currently trying to compile up some ELF glibc/gcc/binutils. BTW, I mentioned I had that problem with glibc, where it said something about attributes for a certain target type not being supported. All the binaries in the '/usr/src/glibc/csu' directory build perfectly well, and I 'file'd them and they all came out to be ELF 32-bit LSB thingies, so it's not me using the wrong compiler. Any more ideas on that? Cheers, Phil -- Rule of programming #5: If a C program gives more than 50 compiler errors, you've missed out a semicolon. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 23 11:51:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA09404 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:51:36 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (info.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20580 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:19:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:51760 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10963-29448>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:17:19 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971083-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 06:51:03 -0400 Received: from mraos.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.48.8]:57132 "HELO mraos.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971110-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 06:48:49 -0400 Received: from mraosb.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk by mraos.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Smail3.1.29.0 #2) id m0yoQwB-0004LzC; Tue, 23 Jun 98 12:08 BST Received: from localhost by mraosb.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:08:31 +0100 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:08:30 +0100 (BST) From: Toby Haynes X-Sender: tjwh1@mraosb To: ARM Linux Subject: Re: Hmm. memory... (and a bit of ELF glibc) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Phil Norman wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Ian Molton wrote: > > I seem to be running out of memory when I try to compile GIMP. > *giggle* Don't try compiling the GIMP. Well, not unless you have > absolutely TONS of hard drive space, or if you have an ELF compiler+binutils. Ah. Now what is the current availability of ELF compilers/binutils? > I say this because the GIMP contains approximately 100 'plug-ins' which > all (using the standard a.out compiler+binutils) have to be statically > linked with the right libraries. This results in 100 3-meg (ish) > binaries. Not your friend. This is one of the reasons I'm currently > trying to compile up some ELF glibc/gcc/binutils. Any success yet? > BTW, I mentioned I had that problem with glibc, where it said something > about attributes for a certain target type not being supported. All the > binaries in the '/usr/src/glibc/csu' directory build perfectly well, and > I 'file'd them and they all came out to be ELF 32-bit LSB thingies, so > it's not me using the wrong compiler. I'm a bit wary about the version of 'file' on the 2.0.34 distribution. It thought a core dump from one of the rpm-installed programs was an 8086 binary... Cheers, Toby _______________________________________________________________________ Toby Haynes | "Alarm clock? Oh, you mean the sad pile of Rm 965, MRAO | cogs and twisted springs under that dent Uni. of Cambridge | in the wall?" unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 23 12:13:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA09500 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:13:21 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (info.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20599 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:41:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:55650 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10834-29448>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:37:17 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971054-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:11:53 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:17595 "HELO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971119-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:09:20 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yoQzz-0008DY-00; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:12:27 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yoQzy-0004uc-00; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:12:26 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Phil Norman cc: Ian Molton , ARMlinux mailing list Subject: Re: Hmm. memory... (and a bit of ELF glibc) In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:22:05 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:12:26 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >BTW, I mentioned I had that problem with glibc, where it said something >about attributes for a certain target type not being supported. All the >binaries in the '/usr/src/glibc/csu' directory build perfectly well, and >I 'file'd them and they all came out to be ELF 32-bit LSB thingies, so >it's not me using the wrong compiler. It's weird. The error you got is only generated if ASM_OUTPUT_SECTION_NAME isn't defined, and this should be in config/arm/elf.h. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 23 14:02:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA09628 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:02:17 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA20630 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:30:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:50520 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10751-7151>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:29:25 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971095-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:07:14 -0400 Received: from kendy.up.ac.za ([137.215.101.101]:16458 "HELO kendy.up.ac.za" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971100-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:05:51 -0400 Received: from (dos-lan.cs.up.ac.za) [137.215.18.12] by kendy.up.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #3) id 0yoT3z-0002hF-03; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:24:43 +0200 Received: from DOS-LAN/SpoolDir by dos-lan.cs.up.ac.za (Mercury 1.40); 23 Jun 98 15:24:49 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by DOS-LAN (Mercury 1.40); 23 Jun 98 12:37:45 +0200 From: "Samuel Kock" Organization: University of Pretoria To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:37:38 CAT-2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Starting out troubles... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: <8A12D93AE9@dos-lan.cs.up.ac.za> X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi I just about a week ago installed my copy of ARMLinux from the Clan CDROM, using the instructions given by someone whose name I cannot remember right now. It worked like a charm, I must add. Now, I only have a few questions. Bear in mind I do not know *that* much of Linux, so have some patience. First, my machine configuration StrongARM RISCPC, 25Mb (24+1) RAM, 4Gb HDD, 540 Mb HDD( Linux one), Linux kernel version 2.0.34. !linux 3.2 something or other. OK, here goes my questions... 1) If I try to mount my 4Gb drive it accepts the command, but nothing shows! I do a mount -t adfs /dev/hda1 mnt, but when I change to the mnt directory it is empty! What is going on? 2) Just tell me if I have this right: To compile kernel I need the kernel sources for 2.0.34, and the patch (also 2.0.34's) file from the ARMlinux ftp site. 3) Talking of compiling, I tried compiling psutils, but it won't work! It tells me that it cannot find the linux/.h file. Is there something I did not install? If I can get this working, chances are I can compile fvwm2-95 etc. as well. Or is there already one available? 4) Can you make the minimise, maximise, close, etc window buttons look like the RISCOS ones? And in line with this, if I click on the minimize icon the window dissappears! I have to get it back via window list. I know this is a fvwm config option, but I do not know where to set it :-(. 5) How do you configure your modem and PPP-PAP internet connection? I tried running the modem tool from control panel, but it just tells me 'python command not found'. I since have found the source for it, but cannot continue, see above. It is also not on the ARM LInux web site anywhere, I looked :-). 6) And finally :- How do you set up your printer to work? We have a Epson Stylus Colour Pro. I heard it is a schlep because it is not a Postscript printer, is this true? Sorry if these questions does not really pertain to this list, but this is the only place I can think of to post to. Regards Samuel Kock unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 23 14:20:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA09642 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:20:52 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA20634 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:48:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:20839 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10582-500>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:48:32 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971109-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:27:40 -0400 Received: from man01.cogency.co.uk ([195.153.128.51]:44761 "HELO mailhost.cogency.co.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971103-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:26:57 -0400 Received: from cogency.co.uk by mailhost.cogency.co.uk (SMI-8.6/PIPEX simple 1.27) id OAA23874; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:46:32 +0100 Message-ID: <358FB163.CF2BC2FF@cogency.co.uk> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:45:07 +0100 From: David Alan Gilbert Organization: Cogency Technology Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Samuel Kock , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Starting out troubles... References: <8A12D93AE9@dos-lan.cs.up.ac.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Samuel Kock wrote: > > Hi > > I just about a week ago installed my copy of ARMLinux from the Clan > CDROM, using the instructions given by someone whose name I cannot > remember right now. It worked like a charm, I must add. Welcome to ARM Linux!! > Now, I only have a few questions. Bear in mind I do not know *that* > much of Linux, so have some patience. Don't worry we will! > First, my machine configuration > > StrongARM RISCPC, 25Mb (24+1) RAM, 4Gb HDD, 540 Mb HDD( Linux one), > Linux kernel version 2.0.34. !linux 3.2 something or other. > > OK, here goes my questions... > > 1) If I try to mount my 4Gb drive it accepts the command, but nothing > shows! I do a mount -t adfs /dev/hda1 mnt, but when I change to the > mnt directory it is empty! What is going on? When you boot Linux you will see a line somewhere which says: hda: [????] hda1 Or something like that. Can you tell us exactly what it says and if there are any similar lineS? Also, after you have done the 'mount' command are there any messages in the log files? If you then just type 'mount'it should list all the current mounts; does it include the one you just did? > 2) Just tell me if I have this right: To compile kernel I need the > kernel sources for 2.0.34, and the patch (also 2.0.34's) file from the > ARMlinux ftp site. Yep. > 3) Talking of compiling, I tried compiling psutils, but it won't > work! It tells me that it cannot find the linux/.h file. > Is there something I did not install? If I can get this working, > chances are I can compile fvwm2-95 etc. as well. Or is there already > one available? The chances are that you are missing the kernel header files which reside normally in /usr/src/linux/include and are linked to /usr/include/linux. If you get the kernel source and patch it as you suggest in (2) then this will include the kernel headers. Follow the instructions in the linux/README file which comes with the source on making links in /usr/include. > 4) Can you make the minimise, maximise, close, etc window buttons > look like the RISCOS ones? And in line with this, if I click on the > minimize icon the window dissappears! I have to get it back via > window list. I know this is a fvwm config option, but I do not know > where to set it :-(. fvwm can probably do what you want; there are two answers: 1) Read the fvwm manual (BIG but comprehensive) 2) Get as many other peoples fvwmrc's as you can and mix and match! > 5) How do you configure your modem and PPP-PAP internet connection? I > tried running the modem tool from control panel, but it just tells me > 'python command not found'. I since have found the source for it, but > cannot continue, see above. It is also not on the ARM LInux web site > anywhere, I looked :-). You probably didn't install the python package. Python is a scripting language which RedHat seem to like. > 6) And finally :- How do you set up your printer to work? We have a > Epson Stylus Colour Pro. I heard it is a schlep because it is not a > Postscript printer, is this true? Once you get RedHat's control panels working (see 5!) they should do this for you pretty much automatically; Linux can easily be set up to take the Postscript run it through Ghostscript to convert it to something your printer understands and then print that. > Sorry if these questions does not really pertain to this list, but > this is the only place I can think of to post to. You might also like to join a general Linux mailing list; many of these questions aren't ARM specific. Anyway, welcome to ARM Linux!!! Dave -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Dr. David Alan Gilbert - WARNING! This is a beta release .signature- - Work: dg @ cogency.co.uk - +44-(0)161-428-9444 - - Home: gro.gilbert @ treblig.org - - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 23 15:19:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA09802 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:19:21 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20677 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:47:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:60760 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10367-29448>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 17:45:13 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970868-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:24:08 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:3239 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971039-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:12:23 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA24336 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:32:45 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: ARMlinux mailing list Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:05:36 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Re: Hmm. memory... In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On 23 Jun, David Forbes wrote: > > >I heard that some problem exists with programs not being allowed to > > >use more than a set maximum of memory.... > > > > It's not a problem. Read the manual page for ulimit. > If you can't find a separate man page for ulimit, you might have to look > in the bash man page (or tcsh if you're using that, in which case you'll > be looking for unlimit instead). > D. Thanks! - I didnt know it wasnt ARMlinux specific - a PC owning friend of mine said it went straight off... -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 23 16:36:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA09926 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:36:56 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20706 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 17:04:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:32277 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10990-500>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 19:04:21 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971042-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:43:11 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:25113 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971105-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:39:18 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (QAA10217); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:59:28 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:59:27 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: Philip Blundell cc: ARMlinux mailing list Subject: Re: Hmm. memory... (and a bit of ELF glibc) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Philip Blundell wrote: > >BTW, I mentioned I had that problem with glibc, where it said something > >about attributes for a certain target type not being supported. All the > >binaries in the '/usr/src/glibc/csu' directory build perfectly well, and > >I 'file'd them and they all came out to be ELF 32-bit LSB thingies, so > >it's not me using the wrong compiler. > > It's weird. The error you got is only generated if ASM_OUTPUT_SECTION_NAME > isn't defined, and this should be in config/arm/elf.h. Here's what I get after `locate elf.h`: /usr/include/elf.h /usr/include/libelf.h /usr/src/binutils-2.9.1.0.6/gas/config/obj-elf.h /usr/src/gcc-2.8.1/config/alpha/elf.h /usr/src/gcc-2.8.1/config/arm/elf.h /usr/src/gcc-2.8.1/config/arm/linux-elf.h /usr/src/gcc-2.8.1/config/i386/freebsd-elf.h /usr/src/gcc-2.8.1/config/i386/osfelf.h /usr/src/gcc-2.8.1/config/mips/elf.h /usr/src/gcc-2.8.1/config/sh/elf.h /usr/src/gcc-2.8.1/config/sparc/elf.h /usr/src/gcc-2.8.1/config/sparc/sp64-elf.h /usr/src/glibc-2.0.94/elf/elf.h /usr/src/glibc-2.0.94/elf/elf.h.orig /usr/src/glibc-2.0.94/include/elf.h /usr/src/linux/include/asm-alpha/elf.h /usr/src/linux/include/asm-arm/elf.h /usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386/elf.h /usr/src/linux/include/asm-m68k/elf.h /usr/src/linux/include/asm-mips/elf.h /usr/src/linux/include/asm-ppc/elf.h /usr/src/linux/include/asm-sparc/elf.h /usr/src/linux/include/linux/elf.h Which one of these should it be? What would the OUTPUT_SECTION_NAME be called when the compiler was built for producing ELF binaries? ASM_ARM_LINUX? I tried grepping for ASM_ARM_LINUX and it's not defined anywhere. Could it be something to do with me building the gcc/binutils with target=/usr/elf, and then glibc not being able to find the include files? Any idea? Cheers, Phil -- Rule of programming #5: If a C program gives more than 50 compiler errors, you've missed out a semicolon. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 23 16:43:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA09936 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:43:05 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20710 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 17:10:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:32277 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10235-24650>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 19:08:53 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971109-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:47:12 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:18531 "HELO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971137-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:45:59 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yoVZQ-00002r-00; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 17:05:20 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yoVZP-00043L-00; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 17:05:19 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Phil Norman cc: ARMlinux mailing list Subject: Re: Hmm. memory... (and a bit of ELF glibc) In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:59:27 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 17:05:18 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >> It's weird. The error you got is only generated if ASM_OUTPUT_SECTION_NAME >> isn't defined, and this should be in config/arm/elf.h. > >Here's what I get after `locate elf.h`: No - you misunderstand. "config/arm/elf.h" is part of the GCC source code. >What would the OUTPUT_SECTION_NAME be called when the compiler was built >for producing ELF binaries? ASM_ARM_LINUX? I tried grepping for It's a macro that tells the compiler how to output a section name, actually. The relevant bit of elf.h is this (it's at about line 450). /* Switch into a generic section. This is currently only used to support section attributes. We make the section read-only and executable for a function decl, read-only for a const data decl, and writable for a non-const data decl. */ #define ASM_OUTPUT_SECTION_NAME(FILE, DECL, NAME, RELOC) \ fprintf (FILE, ".section\t%s,\"%s\",@progbits\n", NAME, \ (DECL) && TREE_CODE (DECL) == FUNCTION_DECL ? "ax" : \ (DECL) && DECL_READONLY_SECTION (DECL, RELOC) ? "a" : "aw") >ASM_ARM_LINUX and it's not defined anywhere. Could it be something to do >with me building the gcc/binutils with target=/usr/elf, and then glibc >not being able to find the include files? I don't think that's very likely. It sounds like an internal compiler problem. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 23 17:25:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA09988 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 17:25:53 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20715 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 17:53:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:62468 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10405-29448>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 19:53:33 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971124-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:32:09 -0400 Received: from post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.40]:52651 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971143-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:31:15 -0400 Received: from (stormbringer.demon.co.uk) [158.152.96.167] by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yoWIZ-0002gb-00; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:52:00 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by defaid.demon.co.uk (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA03443 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 17:25:31 +0100 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 17:25:31 +0100 (BST) From: Melanie Rhianna Lewis X-Sender: melanie@stormbringer To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: The arm-ps2 uk keyboard map Message-ID: Organization: Trans-world BBS [+44 117 904 0901] X-Mailer: Pine 3.96 X-Host: Melanie's ArmLinux Box - Stormbringer X-MandM-To: ALL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Whats the keycode for the #/~ key next to return as I would like to edit this map so that the keys produce the characters they have on them. Melanie -- ========================================================================== Melanie Rhianna Lewis melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk Brought to you by Melanie's RiscPC, Stormbringer running ArmLinux! ========================================================================== unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 23 17:26:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA09992 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 17:26:33 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20719 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 17:54:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:62468 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20110-7151>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 19:54:13 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971142-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:32:13 -0400 Received: from post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.40]:52662 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971141-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:31:14 -0400 Received: from (stormbringer.demon.co.uk) [158.152.96.167] by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yoWId-0002gb-00; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:52:04 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by defaid.demon.co.uk (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA03435 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 17:24:27 +0100 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 17:24:27 +0100 (BST) From: Melanie Rhianna Lewis X-Sender: melanie@stormbringer To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Cumana 1 scsi interface Message-ID: Organization: Trans-world BBS [+44 117 904 0901] X-Mailer: Pine 3.96 X-Host: Melanie's ArmLinux Box - Stormbringer X-MandM-To: ALL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO The module for this interface has not really been developed. Is this because there isn't a need or is it because of some other problem eg. lack of information/difficulty etc. I have one of these interfaces and it would be useful to be able to access it. I'm quite happy to have a got at developing a module for it if the information is available. Melanie -- ========================================================================== Melanie Rhianna Lewis melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk Brought to you by Melanie's RiscPC, Stormbringer running ArmLinux! ========================================================================== unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 23 19:13:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA10239 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 19:13:52 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA20743 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 19:41:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:16680 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20435-7151>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 21:41:35 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971183-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:14:52 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:39194 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971195-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:07:17 -0400 Received: from mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA12276 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 20:27:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.157]) by mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA43486 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 20:27:58 +0200 Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf2) id AA20956; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 20:27:56 +0200 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 20:27:56 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: loadmap config Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, I've just upgraded to 32MB RAM and I know about the insmod problem. The question I have is the following: How do I get !Linux to accept the 'args = " mem=16M "' flag in /etc/boot.conf ???? (I've run loadmap after applying the changes.) I've looked in /boot/boot.map and it appears there. But after a restart insmod *will fail again*. So I've to type mem=16M every time I boot to ARMLinux. ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 23 19:40:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA10353 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 19:40:03 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA20754 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 20:07:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:21600 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20315-29448>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 22:07:32 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971193-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:45:25 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:4851 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971195-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:45:00 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id UAA20963 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 20:06:18 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: ARMlinux mailing list Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 20:09:18 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: X programming Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi... Where can I get a guide on how to program under X ? (preferably a downloadable one) And does X under ARMlinux have any special differences I need to know about? Thanks... -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 23 20:18:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA10437 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 20:18:39 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA20762 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 20:46:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:43560 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19987-24650>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 22:45:38 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971211-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:19:46 -0400 Received: from chaos.oregan.net ([195.173.86.1]:23388 "EHLO chaos.oregan.net" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971199-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:13:32 -0400 Received: from splodge.oregan.net (splodge.oregan.net [195.173.86.42]) by chaos.oregan.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA04364 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 20:34:40 +0100 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 20:25:38 +0100 From: Dickon Hood To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: X programming Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: The Fluff Disorganisation X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40 for RISC OS X-CC-Request: Please *don't* CC replies to me as well as the list. Thankyou. X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail =?ISO-8859-1?Q?0.21=DF?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60l X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO In message Ian Molton wrote: : Where can I get a guide on how to program under X ? (preferably a : downloadable one) There's free complete documentation in the X source distribution (or so mdw tells me ;-) : And does X under ARMlinux have any special differences I need to know : about? Doubt it. -- ~/bin/Dickon --no-telly refresh-too-low I've now managed to find my .signature file, normal service will be resumed when Connex South Central get their act together. We apologise for the inconvenience in the mean time. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 24 00:10:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA10745 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 00:10:37 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA20881 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 00:38:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:10608 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT2") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11143-7151>; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 02:38:10 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971345-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 19:14:57 -0400 Received: from black.oaktree.co.uk ([193.82.129.7]:3304 "EHLO black.oaktree.co.uk" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971346-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 19:14:19 -0400 Received: from white.oaktree.co.uk (root@white.oaktree.co.uk [193.82.129.2]) by black.oaktree.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA15676 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 00:36:40 +0100 (BST) Received: (from ben@localhost) by white.oaktree.co.uk (8.8.8/8.7.3) id AAA28894; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 00:36:38 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19980624003638.32347@oaktree.co.uk> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 00:36:38 +0100 From: Ben Dooks To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Driver writing Reply-To: ben@fluff.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i X-Disclaimer: These are my views alone. X-URL: http://www.fluff.org/ X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I'm having problems with getting the SimTec IDE driver that I've been writing to work. The podule is correctly identified, and the registers checked and setup correctly. After registering with the ide-driver, /dev/hdc appears, but dosen't work due to IRQ timeouts. Does anyone have any ideas what could be going wrong? -- Ben (graduating, with any luck) Please use ben@fluff.org instead of bjd101@york.ac.uk or bjd101@cs.york.ac.uk. Accounts are soon to be closed. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 24 00:52:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA10769 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 00:52:16 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA20895 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 01:20:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:15656 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10475-7151>; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 03:19:57 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971360-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 19:56:56 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1256 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971370-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 19:53:07 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yoche-0001iH-00; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 00:42:18 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: ben@fluff.org cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Driver writing In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 Jun 1998 00:36:38 BST." <19980624003638.32347@oaktree.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 00:42:18 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >Does anyone have any ideas what could be going wrong? Have you checked that the interrupt line is actually working? p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 24 00:55:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA10773 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 00:55:27 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA20899 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 01:23:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:15656 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11073-7151>; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 03:23:09 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971368-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 19:57:02 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1253 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971367-22453>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 19:52:16 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yocvz-0001j5-00; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 00:57:07 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Ian Molton cc: ARMlinux mailing list Subject: Re: X programming In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Jun 1998 20:09:18 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 00:57:06 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >Where can I get a guide on how to program under X ? (preferably a >downloadable one) There's a whole series of books on X programming. No, ARM X is no different to any other. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 24 09:57:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA11069 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:57:08 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21043 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:25:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:22796 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10650-500>; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:22:58 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970804-22453>; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 04:50:17 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:46706 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970841-22453>; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 04:49:34 -0400 Received: from (gate.sw.milldev.co.uk) [193.237.23.100] by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yold5-0006Gw-00; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:14:11 +0000 Received: from florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (florence.sw.milldev.co.uk [192.168.0.6]) by gate.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA14041 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:10:44 +0100 From: Russell King Received: (from rmk@localhost) by florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.7.3) id KAA04150 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:16:17 +0100 Message-Id: <199806240916.KAA04150@florence.sw.milldev.co.uk> Subject: I'm back! To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:16:16 +0100 (BST) Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi All, Just to let everyone know that I'm now back in the country, after being in Malta for the past two weeks. As a result of the holiday, I've got lots to sort out: - getting my computers back, up and running again - pulling my mail back off of the machines at work, removing the redirection, sorting the mail, and replying to some of them. - synchronising web sites and so forth I'm hoping to be back in the virtual world by tomorrow evening. Due to the large amount of email that I currently have, please be patient with your mails - it may take several days (or even a week) before I get around to replying to it. For those of you who are interested, I shall put the more interesting points of my visit on the web... -- Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 24 10:09:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA11078 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:09:01 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21055 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:37:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:24115 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10561-500>; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:35:07 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970859-22453>; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 05:06:06 -0400 Received: from kendy.up.ac.za ([137.215.101.101]:9444 "HELO kendy.up.ac.za" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970850-22453>; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 04:59:59 -0400 Received: from (dos-lan.cs.up.ac.za) [137.215.18.12] by kendy.up.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #3) id 0yolkw-0001vk-00; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:22:18 +0200 Received: from DOS-LAN/SpoolDir by dos-lan.cs.up.ac.za (Mercury 1.40); 24 Jun 98 11:22:24 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by DOS-LAN (Mercury 1.40); 24 Jun 98 11:22:22 +0200 From: "Samuel Kock" Organization: University of Pretoria To: David Alan Gilbert Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:22:15 CAT-2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Starting out troubles... CC: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-reply-to: <358FB163.CF2BC2FF@cogency.co.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > When you boot Linux you will see a line somewhere which says: > hda: [????] hda1 > Or something like that. Can you tell us exactly what it says and if > there are any similar lineS? > Also, after you have done the 'mount' command are there any messages in > the log files? If you then just type 'mount'it should list > all the current mounts; does it include the one you just did? To answer your questions in order: It says hda [ADFS] hda1 then on next line hdb [ADFS] hdb1 [EXT2] <-- I am not sure of this, but it works... Well, I do not know which log files to look in, so if you can tell me, I'll look. And yes, if I type just mount the new mount is there. But it now has another twist: When I go to the mounted directory and do a ls it tells me: ADFS-fs error (device 03:01): adfs_check_dir: Corrupted directory inode 22200,222 Any idea what this means? I think it has to do because it is a 4Gb drive, under the new filecore. Because it mounts an old 420Mb drive perfectly... > The chances are that you are missing the kernel header files which reside > normally in /usr/src/linux/include and are linked to /usr/include/linux. > If you get the kernel source and patch it as you suggest in (2) then this > will include the kernel headers. Follow the instructions in the > linux/README file which comes with the source on making links in /usr/include. Yes, but noe I have another problem: How do you get the 6mb kernel source gzip file onto Linux partition? I cannot put it on 4gb drive, for reasons stated before. And my RISCOS partition on the other disc is too small :-(. I put it on a DOS partition in RISCOS, but now I have another question: What is that other window in !LinConfig for? You know, the one where you say the device number is 0301 and the path is whatever? Is this too see your DOS parttions under Linux? If so, how do you do it? Instructions are a bit scarce. > You probably didn't install the python package. Python is a scripting > language which RedHat seem to like. And I get the package where? The only one I could find is the i386 one, or the source for it. Like I said, it is not on the ARMLinux web site... > Once you get RedHat's control panels working (see 5!) they should do this > for you pretty much automatically; Linux can easily be set up to take the > Postscript run it through Ghostscript to convert it to something your printer > understands and then print that. I tried that, put I cannot make head or tail from it. Isn't there a HOWTO or something? I think we need an few ARM Linux specific HOWTO's > You might also like to join a general Linux mailing list; many of these > questions aren't ARM specific. Will do. Regards Samuel unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 24 18:02:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA12248 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:02:53 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA21312 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:30:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:42324 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10825-3796>; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 20:27:11 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971508-22453>; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:00:06 -0400 Received: from internet.corel.ca ([209.167.40.2]:57699 "EHLO andrewm-pc.corelcomputer.com" ident: "IDENT-NONSENSE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971513-22453>; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:57:18 -0400 Received: (from andrewm@localhost) by andrewm-pc.corelcomputer.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA01989 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:22:30 -0400 From: andrewm@corelcomputer.com Message-Id: <199806241722.NAA01989@andrewm-pc.corelcomputer.com> Subject: ARM and RPM To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:22:30 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I'm working on RPM and designing a rpmrc we can all live with. I need to know what "uname -m" people see other than "sa110", and what the ARM architecture is for that processor. Thanks. -- Andrew E. Mileski mailto:andrewm@CorelComputer.com Software Developer Corel Computer Corp. http://www.CorelComputer.com/ OSC-CCC Technical Liaison http://www.NetWinder.org/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 24 18:30:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA12281 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:30:00 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA21321 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:58:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:51993 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11034-3796>; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 20:57:50 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971535-22453>; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:31:50 -0400 Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk ([194.131.104.13]:58306 "HELO golden.argonet.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971537-22453>; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:31:18 -0400 Received: from (argbr88) [193.130.245.210] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yotmV-0006ed-00; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:56:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dana K Scully To: Linux-arm mailing list Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:46:05 +0100 Message-ID: <485b441f87dkscully@argonet.co.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.09b for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Acorn South East show Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, sorry if people feel this is off topic... I just want to confirm what the ARMLinux presence at the above show, will be, and whether it will be worth my while bringing my hard drive (and possibly CD drive) along to get the latest version up and running on my system. I seem to remember it was Matthew and Phil(?) going. See you there :) Lesley Mitchell * Let me see what happen when you roll your face on the keyboard. -- "Trust no one" - 'Deep Throat', 'The X Files' "Trust Ivanova, trust yourself. Shoot everyone else!" - Commader Susan Ivanova, 'Babylon 5' "...And trust no, Trust practically no one. All right, except trustworthy people." - Commader Samuel Vimes, Ankh-Morpork City Watch, 'Jingo' unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 24 19:01:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA12377 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:01:00 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21330 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:29:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:17196 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11210-9853>; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:28:10 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971515-22453>; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:02:09 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:30826 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971567-22453>; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:00:46 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id SAA12342; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:57:46 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199806241757.SAA12342@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ARM and RPM To: andrewm@corelcomputer.com Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:57:45 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199806241722.NAA01989@andrewm-pc.corelcomputer.com> from "andrewm@corelcomputer.com" at Jun 24, 98 01:22:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO andrewm@corelcomputer.com > > I'm working on RPM and designing a rpmrc we can all live with. > I need to know what "uname -m" people see other than "sa110", > and what the ARM architecture is for that processor. You can find all the details in linux/arch/arm/kernel/setup.c `arm2', `arm250' and `arm3' are all ARM Architecture 2 processors. ie they only have 26-bit modes. `arm6', `arm610' `arm7' and `arm710' are ARM Architecture 3 processors. For applications, this should be no different to `sa110' (which is ARM Architecture 4). If an `arm810' machine is ever supported, this is also ARM Architecture 4. I doubt Linux will ever support the `arm1' ;-) Though if anyone fancies it I know someone who has one... ;-) -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jun 24 19:08:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA12412 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:08:34 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21334 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:36:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:17234 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10377-9853>; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:36:07 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971533-22453>; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:09:35 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:30832 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971567-22453>; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:07:59 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id TAA12384; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:05:00 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199806241805.TAA12384@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Acorn South East show To: dkscully@argonet.co.uk (Dana K Scully) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:05:00 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <485b441f87dkscully@argonet.co.uk> from "Dana K Scully" at Jun 24, 98 03:46:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Dana K Scully > > Hi, > > sorry if people feel this is off topic... Not at all. > I just want to confirm what the ARMLinux presence at the above show, will > be, and whether it will be worth my while bringing my hard drive (and > possibly CD drive) along to get the latest version up and running on my > system. > > I seem to remember it was Matthew and Phil(?) going. There've been some problems with getting the car, however, everything seems to now be sorted out & I'm meeting Phil Norman in Peterborough on Friday evening. Our plans include two RiscPCs, a PC and an R140. Russell said he might bring an EBSA, but I don't know if he still plans to. We may even have sufficient monitors ;-) Actually, we've only got 2metres of desk, so we're trying to be careful not to bring too much stuff - netbooting my sun3 with 19" monitor has been ruled out ;-) -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From philb@gnu.org Wed Jun 24 21:55:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org (exim@tazenda.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.239]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id VAA12682 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:55:40 +0100 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yovLp-0000WN-00; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 20:37:01 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Matthew Wilcox cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ARM and RPM In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:57:45 BST." <199806241757.SAA12342@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 20:37:01 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Status: RO >I doubt Linux will ever support the `arm1' ;-) Though if anyone fancies >it I know someone who has one... ;-) It would certainly have giggle value, but I think it might be a bit too painful. p. From nealc@lsil.com Thu Jun 25 08:08:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: from lsi.lsil.com (lsi.lsil.com [147.145.40.2]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA13655 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:08:47 +0100 Received: from mhost.lsil.com (mhost.lsil.com [147.145.69.84]) by lsi.lsil.com with SMTP id AAA01434 (8.6.12/IDA-1.6); Thu, 25 Jun 1998 00:36:54 -0700 Received: from lonfs01.lsil.com by mhost.lsil.com id AA16615 (4.1/SMI-4.1 for willy@odie.barnet.ac.uk); Thu, 25 Jun 98 00:35:58 PDT Received: from lsil.com (lonws171) by lonfs01.lsil.com (4.1/LSI-1.2) id AA28919; Thu, 25 Jun 98 08:35:54 BST Sender: nealc@lsil.com Message-Id: <3591FDD8.35CCCE6A@lsil.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:35:52 +0100 From: Neal Crook Organization: LSI Logic X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Wilcox Cc: andrewm@corelcomputer.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ARM and RPM References: <199806241757.SAA12342@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO >From the ARM ARM (Architecture Ref. Manual): "Architecture "Version 4" added halfword loads and stores, sign-extending byte and half-word load, a new privileged mode and defines several new undefined instructions" The ARM7, ARM710, StrongARM1 (eg SA-110) are all Version 4 architectures, as is ARM9. In fact, Most ARM7 are ARM7T (they include the Thumb instruction set) which is architecture 4T. Neal. Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > andrewm@corelcomputer.com > > > > I'm working on RPM and designing a rpmrc we can all live with. > > I need to know what "uname -m" people see other than "sa110", > > and what the ARM architecture is for that processor. > > You can find all the details in linux/arch/arm/kernel/setup.c > `arm2', `arm250' and `arm3' are all ARM Architecture 2 processors. ie > they only have 26-bit modes. > `arm6', `arm610' `arm7' and `arm710' are ARM Architecture 3 processors. > For applications, this should be no different to `sa110' (which is ARM > Architecture 4). > If an `arm810' machine is ever supported, this is also ARM Architecture 4. > I doubt Linux will ever support the `arm1' ;-) Though if anyone fancies > it I know someone who has one... ;-) From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 25 13:23:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA14848 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:23:14 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21848 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:51:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:50236 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19530-15808>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:37:41 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <972040-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:36:01 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:4234 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <972066-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:15:18 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id LAA14280; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:14:05 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199806251014.LAA14280@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ARM and RPM To: nealc@lsil.com (Neal Crook) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:14:04 +0100 (BST) Cc: andrewm@corelcomputer.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <3591FDD8.35CCCE6A@lsil.com> from "Neal Crook" at Jun 25, 98 08:35:52 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Neal Crook > > >From the ARM ARM (Architecture Ref. Manual): > > "Architecture "Version 4" added halfword loads and stores, sign-extending byte and > half-word load, a new privileged mode and defines several new undefined instructions" > > The ARM7, ARM710, StrongARM1 (eg SA-110) are all Version 4 architectures, as is ARM9. > In fact, Most ARM7 are ARM7T (they include the Thumb instruction set) which is > architecture 4T. Incorrect. ARM710 is Architecture 3. All Thumb cores are Architecture 4. This does include the ARM7T. There do not exist any processors which support both Thumb and 26-bit modes, therefore the ARM710 which runs RISC OS in 26-bit mode does not have Thumb. ARM8, ARM9 and StrongARM cores are all Architecture 4. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 25 14:28:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA15001 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:28:20 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21874 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:56:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:47366 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20168-15808>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:47:55 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <972115-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:12:22 -0400 Received: from m2.findmail.com ([209.185.96.135]:6335 "HELO m2.findmail.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <972142-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:06:54 -0400 Received: (qmail 15395 invoked by uid 505); 25 Jun 1998 13:33:03 -0000 Date: 25 Jun 1998 13:33:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19980625133302.15393.qmail@m2.findmail.com> Received: from 199.33.81.32 (via http) from to list "linux-arm" From: "Jonathan Peace" Subject: Re: Changing the display in X In-Reply-To: To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO The only way I have found of changing the resolution is *Configure Mode and the highest res is 800*600 according to the docs. How do get higher resolutions? Jonathan > On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Chris Egan wrote: > > > I have recently installed ArmLinux, and have got X working and I'm using > > fvwm2 ATM. What I'd like to know is how to change the resolution and > > colour depth for X. I expected to find a configuration file in > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/ but there seems to be nothing of the kind. I'm fairly > > new to all this and would appreciate some pointing me in the right > > direction. > > Sorry, you won't be able to do this once ARMLinux is running. The server > uses the display that is active at the time you start linux. So, if you > want to have other resolutions under X11, you have to switch the mode > *before* starting linux. Note that linux only supports up to > 1280 x 1024 x 256. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | > |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | > |phone: I'm not silly | > |--------------------------------------------------------| > | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | > | to forget to remember... | > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu > > ----- Original Message: http://www.findmail.com/list/linux-arm/?start=935 Start a FREE e-mail list at http://www.FindMail.com/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From linux@arm.uk.linux.org Thu Jun 25 20:25:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA15553 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:25:42 +0100 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup2.cymru.net [163.164.160.66]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA29076; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:53:59 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA01992; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:53:23 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00680; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:54:08 +0100 Message-Id: <199806251954.UAA00680@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: 2.0.34 problems To: willy@odie.barnet.ac.uk (Matthew Wilcox) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:54:07 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199806101951.UAA19404@odie.barnet.ac.uk> from "Matthew Wilcox" at Jun 10, 98 08:51:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Matthew Wilcox writes: > I've built myself a 2.0.34 kernel twice now, both hang in the same way; > they get to `Now booting the kernel' and then stop. I _suspect_ Russell > has left the serial console enabled, but unfortunately I can't remember > how to turn it off. If anyone with greater insight than I would like > to help, I'd be most grateful. AFAIK Russell is now on holiday so can't > fix this himself. Not as far as my patches are concerned. It should work. What config are you using? _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 25 20:32:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA15598 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:32:01 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA22049 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:00:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:13864 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1873-15808>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:59:35 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970797-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:41:27 -0400 Received: from poseidon.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.224]:62211 "EHLO poseidon.tcp.net.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970814-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:46:13 -0400 Received: from tonyh (vt2-146.du.tcp.co.uk [195.80.1.146]) by poseidon.tcp.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8+antispam) with SMTP id TAA06469 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 19:14:11 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 19:12:53 +0100 From: Tony Houghton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: X programming Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40a for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.21beta MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO In message Dickon Hood wrote: > In message > Ian Molton wrote: > > : Where can I get a guide on how to program under X ? (preferably a > : downloadable one) > > There's free complete documentation in the X source distribution (or so mdw > tells me ;-) Ah, but is it usable as a *guide*, or just for reference? ;-) BTW, there's no man page for X in the ARM RPMs, which makes life difficult. -- \_________________ \ http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~tonyh/ The Curling Pages \ The home of WinEd, Bombz and POPstar for RISC OS unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 25 20:41:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA15617 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:41:42 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA22058 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:10:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:30490 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11014-3796>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:45:57 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970985-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:15:21 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:63434 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971138-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:42:04 -0400 Received: from mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA26931 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:09:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.157]) by mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA46892 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:10:00 +0200 Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf2) id AA26695; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:09:56 +0200 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:09:56 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Cumana 1 scsi interface In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Melanie Rhianna Lewis wrote: > The module for this interface has not really been developed. Is this > because there isn't a need or is it because of some other problem eg. > lack of information/difficulty etc. I think you should just wait a little. R. King, the developer of ARMLinux came just back from vacation and will certainly have a lot to do. Maybe, completed versions already are in the new V2.1.xx kernels & the V2.0.3x kernels will be updated soon. ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 25 21:45:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA15778 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:45:24 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA22104 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:13:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:13864 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6185-14900>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:05:09 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970814-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:41:38 -0400 Received: from poseidon.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.224]:62207 "EHLO poseidon.tcp.net.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970806-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:46:08 -0400 Received: from tonyh (vt2-146.du.tcp.co.uk [195.80.1.146]) by poseidon.tcp.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8+antispam) with SMTP id TAA06451; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 19:13:57 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 19:09:32 +0100 From: Tony Houghton To: melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The arm-ps2 uk keyboard map Message-ID: <1196da5b48%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40a for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.21beta MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO In message Melanie Rhianna Lewis wrote: > Whats the keycode for the #/~ key next to return as I would like to edit > this map so that the keys produce the characters they have on them. I can't remember, but I had just the same problem. But by browsing related man pages I found a program called showkey IIRC which tells you the codes of any keys you press. -- \_________________ \ http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~tonyh/ The Curling Pages \ The home of WinEd, Bombz and POPstar for RISC OS unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 25 22:40:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA15857 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:40:42 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA22129 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:09:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:17232 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6181-3796>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 00:33:01 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971054-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:20:33 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1554 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971297-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:17:09 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup2.cymru.net [163.164.160.66]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA28833; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:45:11 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA01764; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:09:05 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00493; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:09:52 +0100 Message-Id: <199806251909.UAA00493@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Linux installation To: P.C.F.Norman@exeter.ac.uk (Phil Norman) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:09:52 +0100 (BST) Cc: andy@forum.demon.co.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Phil Norman" at Jun 9, 98 11:04:27 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Phil Norman writes: > > Assuming that I change all references of adfs to idefs, and > > put the zip archive on idefs::4 will it work, or is that too > > simplistic? I'm not familiar with what Phil's done on his web site instructions, but you may have to unzip the archive onto idefs::4 first... _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 25 22:40:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA15861 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:40:43 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA22135 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:09:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:2336 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19420-14900>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 00:54:09 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970883-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:03:24 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1580 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971300-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:17:40 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup2.cymru.net [163.164.160.66]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA28884; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:45:24 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA01820; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:31:54 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00574; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:32:40 +0100 Message-Id: <199806251932.UAA00574@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Installing - phase 3 (the saga continues!) To: simon_ogilvie@ionica.co.uk (Simon Ogilvie) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:32:39 +0100 (BST) Cc: Philip.Blundell@pobox.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Simon Ogilvie" at Jun 12, 98 08:29:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Simon Ogilvie writes: > pc : [] > > At this point it stiffs and requires a reset. This indicates that you need to upgrade your version of the module tools. Get the latest modules package (in RPMS) off of the FTP site, and ask the installer to upgrade it for you. (Put the new RPM in your RPMs directory, and then re-run the installer asking it to upgrade your system). _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 25 22:40:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA15863 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:40:44 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA22138 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:09:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:2336 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19820-3796>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 00:54:21 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970885-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:03:31 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1627 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970907-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:17:55 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup2.cymru.net [163.164.160.66]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA28966; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:45:57 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA01753; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:05:29 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00480; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:06:17 +0100 Message-Id: <199806251906.UAA00480@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Help starting X To: shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Stefan Hanske) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:06:16 +0100 (BST) Cc: tim@reinhouse.demon.co.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Stefan Hanske" at Jun 8, 98 06:15:03 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Stefan Hanske writes: > > I have just install the complete ARM Linux distrubtion, and I can't start X. > > The following is displayed whenever I try to run xinit : > > Just try typing `startx`. You should never need to call xinit directly, startx is the accepted way of starting an X session when you're not using xdm. > xinit needs two files to start X window - xinitrc & xserverrc. It doesn't actually require these files - it has builtin defaults which are to run the X server with no options and to provide one xterm with a title of 'Login'. However, the solution is along these lines - what I have is the system-wide xserverrc file (/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc) containing: exec /usr/X11R6/bin/X -terminate -fp /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ -s 0 This removes the empty font directories from the default font path, and allows the X server to start. (The server doesn't like empty font directories). _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 25 22:40:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA15868 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:40:45 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA22132 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:09:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:2336 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11178-9853>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 00:53:50 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970880-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:03:17 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1541 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971296-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:17:08 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup2.cymru.net [163.164.160.66]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA28821; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:45:00 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA01778; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:13:52 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00518; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:14:39 +0100 Message-Id: <199806251914.UAA00518@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Installing on A5k To: pb@nexus.co.uk (Philip Blundell) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:14:38 +0100 (BST) Cc: mh120608@cr10m.staffs.ac.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Jun 9, 98 03:58:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Philip Blundell writes: > >it will not respond to commands such as ls / although it does print what I > >type on the screen. Where are you typing this? Did you press Alt-F2 after inserting the supplemental disk and allowing the installer to load it? _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 25 22:40:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA15872 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:40:46 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA22144 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:09:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:2336 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1406-9853>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 00:58:39 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971591-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:21:44 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1657 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970997-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:18:45 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup2.cymru.net [163.164.160.66]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA28971; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:46:01 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA01838; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:34:50 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00587; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:35:36 +0100 Message-Id: <199806251935.UAA00587@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Installing - phase 3 (the saga continues!) To: Philip.Blundell@pobox.com (Philip Blundell) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:35:36 +0100 (BST) Cc: simon_ogilvie@ionica.co.uk, gilbertd@treblig.org, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Jun 13, 98 10:38:17 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Philip Blundell writes: > >I can now mount the proc directory, but /proc/modules > >is a zero length file - is that correct? > > Yes - it just means no modules are loaded. Because all 'files' in the /proc filesystem are generated on the fly (except kcore), their size is unknown. Therefore, they always report a size of zero. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 25 22:40:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA15871 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:40:46 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA22141 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:09:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:2336 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1835-15808>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 00:54:31 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970886-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:03:39 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1588 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971302-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:17:42 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup2.cymru.net [163.164.160.66]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA28958; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:45:34 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA01848; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:37:50 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00600; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:38:35 +0100 Message-Id: <199806251938.UAA00600@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Installing - phase 3 (the saga continues!) To: simon_ogilvie@ionica.co.uk (Simon Ogilvie) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:38:34 +0100 (BST) Cc: Philip.Blundell@pobox.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Simon Ogilvie" at Jun 15, 98 09:49:53 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Simon Ogilvie writes: > Unfortunately I haven't got the system in a sufficiently > stable state to be able to run man yet! I had a trawl > through the ...man8/rpm.8 man file manually, and it > does look correct, but it just says I'm upgrading to the > same version (or words to that effect). Which rpm is > it I need to upgrade? I tried the modules and arm-aout > libraries to no avail. I assume it's just a newer insmod > I need as my fpem.o is already version 4.07? You definitely need to upgrade the modules package. On the FAQ, I've said that modules-2.0.0-5a3.arm.rpm is good. See FAQ question 3.3 for full information. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 25 22:46:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA15905 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:46:38 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA22155 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:14:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:19521 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19820-15808>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:10:10 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971086-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:49:13 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1073 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971106-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:33:33 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup2.cymru.net [163.164.160.66]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA29320; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:01:46 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02014; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:01:10 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id VAA00737; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:01:54 +0100 Message-Id: <199806252001.VAA00737@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: I dunno if my other post got out, but as I cant see it, here goes... To: mh120608@cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (Ian Molton) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:01:53 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <497652amh120608@staffs.ac.uk> from "Ian Molton" at Jun 11, 98 04:42:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Ian Molton writes: > Also, I cant get the bootloader to behave itself - I did the stuff detailed > in Q6 of the FAQ with loadmap, but the bootloader crashes with an error > about an assert ldr->0 or something. Any more information please? What exactly were you doing, what command line arguments did you give !Linux, and what was in the boot.conf file? _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Jun 25 22:51:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA15914 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:51:20 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA22159 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:19:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:19521 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10323-15808>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:19:25 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971099-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:49:42 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1260 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971290-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:39:10 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup2.cymru.net [163.164.160.66]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA29422; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:07:18 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02043; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:06:42 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id VAA00770; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:07:26 +0100 Message-Id: <199806252007.VAA00770@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Compiling a kernel with PPP To: tonyh@tcp.co.uk (Tony Houghton) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:07:25 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <734e205548%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> from "Tony Houghton" at Jun 12, 98 05:37:39 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Tony Houghton writes: > I decided to try compiling a kernel with PPP support and encountered a > small problem. When assembling /usr/src/linux/arch/arm/mm/proc-sa110.S > it couldn't find "constants.h" for including. Which kernel source version is this? > Jun 11 22:02:52 localhost modprobe: Can't locate module net-pf-4 > Jun 11 22:02:53 localhost modprobe: Can't locate module net-pf-5 > > Is that going to stop TCP/IP from working? Nope. net-pf-4 and net-pf-5 are the AX.25 and IPX modules, which you're not using (and probably haven't even compiled up). _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 00:06:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA16138 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 00:06:16 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA22234 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 00:34:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:47908 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19479-3796>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:34:14 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970993-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:18:30 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1159 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971262-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:36:00 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup2.cymru.net [163.164.160.66]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA29359; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:04:00 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02031; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:03:24 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id VAA00750; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:04:08 +0100 Message-Id: <199806252004.VAA00750@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Problems with 2.0.34 To: janm@kom.auc.dk (Jan Magnussen) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:04:07 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Jan Magnussen" at Jun 12, 98 02:27:11 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Jan Magnussen writes: > eth0: etherh 500 found at 80000000, IRQ32, ether address 00:c0:32:00:1d:63 10BaseT >... > There is something very wrong with the etherh driver, because now it says, > that I am using a 10BaseT connection, but I am using 10Base2. I, until very > reasantly used 10BaseT, but then the driver said, that it was a 10Base2 > connection, that I was using. Either way I have not been able to get in > contact with any other computer on the network from Linux. It works fine > using RiscOS. Ok, I'll have a look into the etherh problem soon (probably after the weekend). _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 01:17:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA16183 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:17:08 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22249 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:45:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14920 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10862-3796>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:45:09 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971306-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:55:11 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1498 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971404-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:08:23 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup4.cymru.net [163.164.160.68]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA31317; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:36:49 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02188; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:47:04 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id VAA00928; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:47:45 +0100 Message-Id: <199806252047.VAA00928@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Problem with ARCinv6 cards To: mh120608@cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (Ian Molton) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:47:45 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <94150c2mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> from "Ian Molton" at Jun 20, 98 06:03:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Ian Molton writes: > I dunno if this has been reported, but ARMlinux wont detect any harddiscs > on the second port of my APDL ArcinV6 card. Ok, I've got it noted down. Any kernel messages around the IDE detection will be useful, along with what hard drives you have attached to the card on both connectors. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 01:21:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA16187 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:21:02 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22253 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:49:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14920 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10689-3796>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:48:28 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971308-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:55:20 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1509 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971406-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:08:30 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup4.cymru.net [163.164.160.68]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA31320; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:36:54 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02209; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:53:10 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id VAA00962; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:53:51 +0100 Message-Id: <199806252053.VAA00962@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Boot probs To: mh120608@cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (Ian Molton) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:53:50 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <9f407b4mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> from "Ian Molton" at Jun 22, 98 02:35:02 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Ian Molton writes: > I've got the same problem as someone else - the kernel has been copied, > boot.conf has been made, and the root symlink is present, but the > bootloader hangs at the press alt for bootloader point. If you hit 'Alt', is the menu correct? Also, in this case, what is the last bit of text that you see on the screen? _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 01:21:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA16191 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:21:04 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22259 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:49:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14920 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10436-14900>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:48:47 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971053-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:55:26 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1507 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971407-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:08:34 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup4.cymru.net [163.164.160.68]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA31312; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:36:34 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02128; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:28:02 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id VAA00861; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:28:44 +0100 Message-Id: <199806252028.VAA00861@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Can't exec init (on brutus) To: hiroshi@funai-tky.co.jp (hiroshi ishii) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:28:43 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <35874CE2DC.F3F6HIROSHI@ns.funai-tky.co.jp> from "hiroshi ishii" at Jun 17, 98 01:58:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO hiroshi ishii writes: > I'm try to work Linux on brutus board. But fault paging > when kernel boot. Debug message is; > > SEGV: init (1): 000725c4 > pc : [<000725c4>] At a one-off look, it looks like some caching problem, or something along those lines. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 01:21:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA16195 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:21:06 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22256 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:49:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14920 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10898-15808>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:48:37 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971321-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:55:55 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1576 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971427-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:09:19 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup4.cymru.net [163.164.160.68]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA31339; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:37:27 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02119; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:25:02 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id VAA00848; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:25:45 +0100 Message-Id: <199806252025.VAA00848@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Performance... To: tim@cobaltmicro.com (Timothy Stonis) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:25:44 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Timothy Stonis" at Jun 15, 98 10:47:27 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Timothy Stonis writes: > Forgive me if this is a repeat question, but can anybody point me towards > some performance numbers on a ARM Linux system? lmbench results maybe? > Thanks. I haven't generated any for a while now, so any are likely to be out of date. There is a web page that isn't linked in to the tree on my site: http://.../~rmk/armlinux/bench.html. I'm not sure how much is there though. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 01:24:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA16199 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:24:42 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22264 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:53:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14920 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11171-3796>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:52:04 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971314-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:55:31 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1535 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971413-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:08:49 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup4.cymru.net [163.164.160.68]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA31330; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:37:14 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02095; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:16:53 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id VAA00818; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:17:36 +0100 Message-Id: <199806252017.VAA00818@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Can't locate module net-pf-* To: Richard.Bradbury@cl.cam.ac.uk (Richard Bradbury) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:17:35 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Richard Bradbury" at Jun 13, 98 03:25:38 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Richard Bradbury writes: > In the past, it has been suggested that adding the following lines to > your /etc/conf.modules will make the error messages go away: > > alias net-pf-4 off > alias net-pf-5 off > > This seems to be a frequently enough asked question to be in the FAQ. Indeed - it's now on the FAQ. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 01:24:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA16203 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:24:43 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22267 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:53:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14920 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10635-9853>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:52:15 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971315-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:55:40 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1528 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971412-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:08:49 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup4.cymru.net [163.164.160.68]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA31324; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:37:02 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA02284; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:17:23 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id WAA01104; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:18:02 +0100 Message-Id: <199806252118.WAA01104@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Changing the display in X To: jepeace@hotmail.com (Jonathan Peace) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:18:01 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <19980625133302.15393.qmail@m2.findmail.com> from "Jonathan Peace" at Jun 25, 98 01:33:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Jonathan Peace writes: > > The only way I have found of changing the resolution is *Configure Mode and > the highest res is 800*600 according to the docs. > > How do get higher resolutions? What machine type is this? You may want to have a look at the two Basic programs in !Linux, as well as the !Run Obey file. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 01:27:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA16207 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:27:49 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22271 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:56:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14920 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10962-15808>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:55:56 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971033-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:55:49 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1565 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971422-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:09:05 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup4.cymru.net [163.164.160.68]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA31333; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:37:18 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA02247; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:06:10 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id WAA01042; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:06:50 +0100 Message-Id: <199806252106.WAA01042@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: loadmap config To: shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Stefan Hanske) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:06:49 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Stefan Hanske" at Jun 23, 98 08:27:56 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Stefan Hanske writes: > How do I get !Linux to accept the 'args = " mem=16M "' flag in > /etc/boot.conf ???? (I've run loadmap after applying the changes.) Two options: 1. Use the Alpha !Linux loader 2. Give mem=16M on the 'Extra arguments: ' line after selecting the kernel from !Linux's menu. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 01:28:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA16211 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:28:05 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22274 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:56:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14920 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11009-3796>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:56:06 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971338-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:56:57 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1730 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971441-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:11:17 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup4.cymru.net [163.164.160.68]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA31359; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:37:55 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA02263; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:11:26 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id WAA01070; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:12:06 +0100 Message-Id: <199806252112.WAA01070@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Starting out troubles... To: skock@dos-lan.cs.up.ac.za (Samuel Kock) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:12:05 +0100 (BST) Cc: dg@cogency.co.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Samuel Kock" at Jun 24, 98 11:22:15 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Samuel Kock writes: >... > I tried that, put I cannot make head or tail from it. Isn't there a > HOWTO or something? > > I think we need an few ARM Linux specific HOWTO's If someone sees a need and is willing to write them, then I'll happily check them to see if there are any obvious screemers in them (when I've got some spare time on my hands). _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 01:28:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA16215 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:28:25 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22277 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:56:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14920 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11108-14900>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:56:29 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971322-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:56:04 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1578 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971425-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:09:18 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup4.cymru.net [163.164.160.68]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA31343; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:37:33 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02202; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:51:04 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id VAA00950; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:51:45 +0100 Message-Id: <199806252051.VAA00950@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: !Linux booting problem To: tonyh@tcp.co.uk (Tony Houghton) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:51:45 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <842cba5948%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> from "Tony Houghton" at Jun 21, 98 04:03:06 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Tony Houghton writes: > The symptoms are that after printing the "Press ALT to access > bootloader" message and accessing the disc again (presumably to load the > kernel from hda3) it just hangs and I have to press the reset button. > The first time, my HDD failed to start up again until I switched off > altogether for a few seconds! 'start up again'? You mean that your hard drive stops? Have you tried turning off the Autospindown feature? _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 01:28:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA16219 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:28:36 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22280 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:56:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14920 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10262-14900>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:56:37 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971325-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:56:11 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1601 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971429-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:09:22 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup4.cymru.net [163.164.160.68]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA31352; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:37:49 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02110; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:22:50 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id VAA00837; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:23:33 +0100 Message-Id: <199806252023.VAA00837@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Partitions, and how to find them To: P.C.F.Norman@exeter.ac.uk (Phil Norman) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:23:32 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Phil Norman" at Jun 15, 98 03:05:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Phil Norman writes: > I seem to remember RMK mentioning something about a library he has which > allows the partition table to be found on all kinds of drive, and I'd > like to build the same kind of support into LinuFS (although I'll > probably have to rewrite it since LinuFS is in assembler). Since RMK is > still on holiday for a while yet, can anyone tell me where I can find > this library, if it exists. There's a slightly older version of it on the FTP site as part of the alpha ARM fdisk. Being fdisk, it is the Linux variant of it, and it doesn't have the relevent calls to the DiscOp/SectorOp swis there, but it'll give you some idea as to how to use it. The library that you mostly communicate with is 'part' - it knows all about partitions. Have a look at part.h for info on the functions it provides. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 01:28:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA16224 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:28:55 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22283 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:57:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14920 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10644-15808>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:56:59 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971327-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:56:20 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1594 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971428-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:09:20 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup4.cymru.net [163.164.160.68]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA31347; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:37:37 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA02254; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:08:30 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id WAA01057; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:09:10 +0100 Message-Id: <199806252109.WAA01057@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Driver writing To: ben@fluff.org Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:09:09 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <19980624003638.32347@oaktree.co.uk> from "Ben Dooks" at Jun 24, 98 00:36:38 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Ben Dooks writes: > I'm having problems with getting the SimTec IDE driver that > I've been writing to work. The podule is correctly identified, > and the registers checked and setup correctly. After registering > with the ide-driver, /dev/hdc appears, but dosen't work due to > IRQ timeouts. Sounds like the interrupts off the card aren't being enabled, or the card doesn't have any interrupts. After using ecard_find, are you calling ecard_claim on the returned structure? Also, are you using the interrupt number that is in this structure? _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 01:32:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA16235 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:32:49 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22287 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:01:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14920 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10774-9853>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 04:00:56 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971330-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:56:31 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1718 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971438-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:10:43 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup4.cymru.net [163.164.160.68]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA31379; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:38:09 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02175; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:42:58 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id VAA00913; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:43:40 +0100 Message-Id: <199806252043.VAA00913@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: problems with swap in 2.0.33? To: rgrint@compsoc.man.ac.uk (Simon Richard Grint) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:43:39 +0100 (BST) Cc: jepeace@hotmail.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Simon Richard Grint" at Jun 19, 98 02:21:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Simon Richard Grint writes: > On 19 Jun 1998, Jonathan Peace wrote: > > > Did you get Netscape working Matthew? > > > > I know he didn`t get it working for Wakefield > > > > Hi. I've been trying to compile lesstif (I'd like to try to get Netscape > > > working to demo at Wakefield ;-) and I keep getting memory exhausted > > > errors. I created a /var/swap _file_, mkswap'ed it, and used swapon. > > It`s not because of the memory available on your machine, or the swap. > There`s something fundermental about ARMlinux`s memory management which > means you can`t use it to compile something as large as netscape Something fundamental because Linux a.out binaries with fixed-address shared libraries need to run on 26-bit machines. This limits the available virtual memory space for a.out. ELF binaries are 32-bit, and so will not suffer from this problem. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 01:42:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA16239 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:42:15 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22291 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:10:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14200 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT2") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10689-9853>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 04:10:24 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971334-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:56:44 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1552 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971416-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:09:33 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup4.cymru.net [163.164.160.68]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA31336; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:37:23 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA02242; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:05:03 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id WAA01033; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:05:43 +0100 Message-Id: <199806252105.WAA01033@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Cumana 1 scsi interface To: melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk (Melanie Rhianna Lewis) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:05:42 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Melanie Rhianna Lewis" at Jun 23, 98 05:24:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Melanie Rhianna Lewis writes: > I have one of these interfaces and it would be useful to be able to access > it. I'm quite happy to have a got at developing a module for it if the > information is available. You could try asking Cumana for some information on the card - they seem to have become friendly to that sort of thing now. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 01:56:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA16264 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:56:07 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22299 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:24:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14200 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT2") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11080-15808>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 04:24:17 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971354-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:57:11 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1747 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971446-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:11:51 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup4.cymru.net [163.164.160.68]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA31367; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:38:01 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02220; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:57:38 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id VAA01001; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:58:19 +0100 Message-Id: <199806252058.VAA01001@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: problems with swap in 2.0.33? To: pkoning@xedia.com (Paul Koning) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:58:18 +0100 (BST) Cc: penne@cptsu5.univ-mrs.fr, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199806221310.JAA00568@tonga.xedia.com> from "Paul Koning" at Jun 22, 98 09:10:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Paul Koning writes: > Curious... why couldn't the allocator skip the space taken by libc and > continue allocating after whatever place it ends? Because the allocator asks the kernel for more memory, and the kernel just says 'sorry, I've only got 12MB to give you'. The brk man page doesn't give much information, but basically the data segment can only be extended up until the next object present in the memory map (which happens to be the C Library at 12MB). _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 01:58:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA16268 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:58:38 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22303 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:27:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14200 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT2") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10753-15808>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 04:25:48 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971361-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:57:26 -0400 Received: from poseidon.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.224]:64621 "EHLO poseidon.tcp.net.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971693-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:03:08 -0400 Received: from tonyh (vt1-81.du.tcp.co.uk [195.80.1.81]) by poseidon.tcp.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8+antispam) with SMTP id XAA18053 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:31:36 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:29:26 +0100 From: Tony Houghton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: !Linux booting problem Message-ID: <9061f25b48%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <199806252051.VAA00950@raistlin.armlinux.org> X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40a for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.21beta MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO In message <199806252051.VAA00950@raistlin.armlinux.org> Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > Tony Houghton writes: > > The first time, my HDD failed to start up again until I switched off > > altogether for a few seconds! > > 'start up again'? You mean that your hard drive stops? Have you tried > turning off the Autospindown feature? This was immediately after a reset, which AFAIK normally stops the drive if you hold the button in long enough, but then it resets and spins back up again. IIRC it was spinning but just inaccessible for some reason. -- \_________________ \ http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~tonyh/ The Curling Pages \ The home of WinEd, Bombz and POPstar for RISC OS unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 02:22:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA16281 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:22:48 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22307 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:51:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:2925 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10598-9853>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 04:51:05 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971344-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 19:01:24 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1681 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971435-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:09:59 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup4.cymru.net [163.164.160.68]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA31376; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:38:06 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA02231; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:01:27 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id WAA01020; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:02:07 +0100 Message-Id: <199806252102.WAA01020@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Hmm. memory... To: pb@nexus.co.uk (Philip Blundell) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:02:07 +0100 (BST) Cc: mh120608@cr10m.staffs.ac.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Jun 23, 98 09:46:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Philip Blundell writes: > > >I heard that some problem exists with programs not being allowed to use > >more than a set maximum of memory.... > > It's not a problem. Read the manual page for ulimit. > > (and this sort of question isn't ARM specific, so it doesn't really belong on > this mailing list) It is ARM specific, and it's not ulimit. It belongs on this mailing list because it's the position of the C Library at 12MB. If you've got 40MB or so, it's pretty hard to be able to swap, unless you're running a lot of processes... (and I mean a lot - with 50 processes running at the moment, I'm not using any swap so far, but then all I've been doing for the past two hours is processing my email). ;) _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 02:57:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA16309 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:57:48 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA22312 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:26:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:4407 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1969-15808>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 05:26:05 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971052-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 19:46:07 -0400 Received: from poseidon.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.224]:64648 "EHLO poseidon.tcp.net.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971706-22453>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:05:12 -0400 Received: from tonyh (vt1-81.du.tcp.co.uk [195.80.1.81]) by poseidon.tcp.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8+antispam) with SMTP id XAA18148 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:33:41 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:32:12 +0100 From: Tony Houghton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Compiling a kernel with PPP Message-ID: <4aa2f25b48%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <199806252007.VAA00770@raistlin.armlinux.org> X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40a for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.21beta MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO In message <199806252007.VAA00770@raistlin.armlinux.org> Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > Tony Houghton writes: > > I decided to try compiling a kernel with PPP support and encountered a > > small problem. When assembling /usr/src/linux/arch/arm/mm/proc-sa110.S > > it couldn't find "constants.h" for including. > > Which kernel source version is this? I think that was 2.0.33. Someone else (dks?) mentioned the same problem I noticed when looking back over past articles. I've since upgraded to 2.0.34 which appears not to have that problem. -- \_________________ \ http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~tonyh/ The Curling Pages \ The home of WinEd, Bombz and POPstar for RISC OS unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk Fri Jun 26 08:50:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA16752 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:50:58 +0100 Received: from eh.org (talker.eh.org [132.185.132.251]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA22394 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:19:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by eh.org (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA06330; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:20:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from (gate.sw.milldev.co.uk) [193.237.23.100] by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0ypTiy-0007Aw-00; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:19:13 +0000 Received: from florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (florence.sw.milldev.co.uk [192.168.0.6]) by gate.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01951; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:19:29 +0100 From: Russell King Received: (from rmk@localhost) by florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.7.3) id JAA04441; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:19:27 +0100 Message-Id: <199806260819.JAA04441@florence.sw.milldev.co.uk> Subject: Acorn SE show To: willy@eh.org, forrey@eh.org Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:19:27 +0100 (BST) Content-Type: text Status: RO Hi! Can someone give me an update on what's happening about the above please? -- Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk) Millbank Electronics Tel: 01825 764811 Fax: 01825 761620 From P.C.F.Norman@exeter.ac.uk Fri Jun 26 09:46:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA16833 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:46:53 +0100 Received: from eh.org (talker.eh.org [132.185.132.251]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22437 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:15:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk (hermes.ex.ac.uk [144.173.6.14]) by eh.org (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA06415; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:15:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (KAA16156); Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:15:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:15:01 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: Russell King cc: willy@eh.org, forrey@eh.org Subject: Re: Acorn SE show In-Reply-To: <199806260819.JAA04441@florence.sw.milldev.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Russell King wrote: > Hi! > > Can someone give me an update on what's happening about the above > please? Ok - currently, the plan is as follows. MW has a car from Friday sometime until Sunday. So he'll be driving down to Peterborough to meet me this evening, to get to P'boro at about 10pm-11pm. I'm going by train to P'boro this afternoon, getting there about 6:30. We'll be staying at a friend of mine's place (Rob) who has kindly agreed to let us kip over on his floor this weekend. He'll also be coming to the show (although he's not into armlinux, he's very experienced in linux). MW will be driving us, plus 2 RPCs, 1 PC (linux, of course) and an R140 with two monitors up to the show on Saturday morning. Currently we're unsure as to what's happening on Saturday night, but MW says there's likely to be a piss-up at Cambridge, so we'll probably find someone willing to let us kip on their floor on Saturday night, and then MW will be dropping Rob and me back at Rob's place on Sunday. He then has to get back home to give the car back to its owner, and I'll be training back down to Exeter on Monday morning. I think that's about it. Bye, Phil -- Linux: The choice of a GNU generation. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 11:47:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA16934 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:47:37 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22470 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:16:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:64592 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1678-3796>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 14:07:58 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971303-22453>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 05:28:37 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:41678 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971360-22453>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 04:40:19 -0400 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.162]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA18668; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:08:46 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf1) id AA21061; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:08:32 +0200 Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:08:32 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: Tony Houghton Cc: melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The arm-ps2 uk keyboard map In-Reply-To: <1196da5b48%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Tony Houghton wrote: > > > Whats the keycode for the #/~ key next to return as I would like to edit > > this map so that the keys produce the characters they have on them. > > I can't remember, but I had just the same problem. But by browsing > related man pages I found a program called showkey IIRC which tells you > the codes of any keys you press. As I remember, the keys are numbered due to a simple sceme. Key No. 1 is , key #2 is , ... Just go through the rows of you keyboard, number the keys and you should get the right key#. I wrote a german keyboard map for RiscPC and A5K this way. You can put it everywhere you want on disk, but you have to edit /etc/sysconfig/keyboard. ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 11:47:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA16938 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:47:38 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22473 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:16:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:64592 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1338-14900>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 14:08:59 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971307-22453>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 05:28:50 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:44913 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971396-22453>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 04:50:02 -0400 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.162]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA19514; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:19:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf1) id AA21613; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:19:05 +0200 Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:19:05 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: andrewm@corelcomputer.com Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ARM and RPM In-Reply-To: <199806241722.NAA01989@andrewm-pc.corelcomputer.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Wed, 24 Jun 1998 andrewm@corelcomputer.com wrote: > I'm working on RPM and designing a rpmrc we can all live with. > I need to know what "uname -m" people see other than "sa110", > and what the ARM architecture is for that processor. > You can have a look at the kernel source, esp. the file arch/arm/kernel/setup.c. There is a list of all known processors declared and how they are names. This is mostly the same way, ie. arm710, arm610, arm3, arm250, arm3... (I'm not sure anymore if it's arm600 or arm6). ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 11:52:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA16957 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:52:11 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22481 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:20:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:64592 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1739-15808>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 14:16:13 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971320-22453>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 05:29:04 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:45823 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971411-22453>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 04:52:54 -0400 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.162]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA19728 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:21:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf1) id AA23201; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:21:56 +0200 Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:21:56 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ARM and RPM In-Reply-To: <199806241757.SAA12342@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > I doubt Linux will ever support the `arm1' ;-) Though if anyone fancies > it I know someone who has one... ;-) What's that one, actually. Is it the 6502 ??? This would *really* be a gag, having Linux running on that. I know about some sort of unix shell emulation that was running on C64, but it was nothing at all. ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 13:26:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA17190 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 13:26:17 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22527 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 13:54:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:57612 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19971-15808>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 15:51:07 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970917-15880>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 06:03:41 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1763 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971019-22453>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 04:33:00 -0400 Received: from the-village.bc.nu (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA10332 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:02:11 +0100 Received: by the-village.bc.nu (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0ypUUZ-000aOnC; Fri, 26 Jun 98 10:08 BST Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Corel IRC special To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:08:23 +0100 (BST) Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO (From http://slashdot.org - Passed on for the ARMies of interested folk) The following is an announcement from Oliver Bendzsa of Corel Computer. Corel Computer Corp. invites all interested parties to participate in a Live IRC chat Friday, June 26, 4-5 PM EST. Please join senior members of Corel Computer's development team to discuss topics such as the status of the company, its Linux development schedule, and everything you ever wanted to know about the NetWinder and were afraid to ask. In the words of Mark Twain, "Recent reports of the demise of Corel Computer, the NetWinder and Linux development were greatly exaggerated." The company is alive and well. Please read the FACTS about Corel's recent announcement to consolidate the operations of Corel Computer (www.corelcomputer.com), and please join us on Friday. Here are the details of the event: Friday, June 26, 1998 4:00 - 5:00 Eastern Standard Time The IRC server is called irc.corel.com The conference channel will is #corelcomputer Users will have to download a IRC client to use this service Linux Users may find a client @ http://www.xnet.com/~blatura/linapp4.html#inet Users of other OS may find a client @ http://idirect.tucows.com/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 15:33:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA17295 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 15:33:07 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22544 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:01:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:54864 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10996-15808>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:00:31 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971169-15880>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:57:53 -0400 Received: from pyramid.businessmonitor.co.uk ([194.205.10.2]:2118 "EHLO pyramid.businessmonitor.co.uk" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971277-15880>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 06:41:18 -0400 Received: from illuminated.co.uk by pyramid.businessmonitor.co.uk (8.8.7/businessmonitor1.3) id MAA21375; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:01:58 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <359380A4.5028EEB6@illuminated.co.uk> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:06:12 +0100 From: Sam Kington Organization: DataCash X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ARM Linux mailing list Subject: Re: The arm-ps2 uk keyboard map References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Melanie Rhianna Lewis wrote: > > Whats the keycode for the #/~ key next to return as I would like to edit > this map so that the keys produce the characters they have on them. Depends what type of keyboard you have - my Risc PC 600 (since upgraded to StrongARM) has the #/~ key between = and Backspace, and there's a blank space in the relevant .map file that you can fill in. The Gateway machine I'm using here, though, had the #/~ key between ' and Return, and it sounds that's the type of keyboard you have. In general, though, if all the other keys on your keyboard are returning the right codes, but one key isn't doing anything, its entry in the .map file will probably be blank. Keycodes tend to start at the top left and go from left to right, top to bottom, so scanning through the .map file should help you find the missing keys. A tip I can suggest is to use loadmap from the command line as an easy way of experimenting with keyboard layouts. Also, don't do this sort of stuff under X. My machine is now set up to use # and ~ properly, and 3 is set up to produce a pound sign. Unfortunately, I can't get it to actually *print* a pound sign - it recognises the "sterling" name, but won't do anything with it. Any ideas? (I remember someone on this list offering to mail people their keyboard map file, so I know someone's tackled this before.) Sam -- INWO Homebrew: http://www.illuminated.co.uk/inwo/ More of my stuff: http://www.illuminated.co.uk/ Not my employer's opinion, no snappy quote unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 15:56:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA17356 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 15:56:47 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22568 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:25:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:35684 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11180-9853>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:24:55 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971229-15880>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:58:44 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:12360 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971646-15880>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 06:59:59 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id MAA17009; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:00:49 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199806261100.MAA17009@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ARM and RPM To: shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Stefan Hanske) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:00:48 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Stefan Hanske" at Jun 26, 98 11:21:56 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Stefan Hanske > > On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > > I doubt Linux will ever support the `arm1' ;-) Though if anyone fancies > > it I know someone who has one... ;-) > > What's that one, actually. Is it the 6502 ??? This would *really* be a > gag, having Linux running on that. I know about some sort of unix shell > emulation that was running on C64, but it was nothing at all. No.. The 6502 was the 6502, manufactured by Motorola. The ARM1 came in a BBC copro case with up to 4MB of RAM, iirc. They're rather rare and difficult to get hold of, and I'd love to offer a good home to one.. You certainly couldn't get a modern unix running on a 6502, though original development was done on a machine with a 64k address space, so you could maybe port 6th Edition if you have a degree in Advanced Masochism. And the source code is even in the Lions book, and it's only 10,000 lines. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 16:01:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA17365 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:01:35 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22572 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:30:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:35684 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10261-14900>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:29:15 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971250-15880>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:58:58 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:46911 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971664-15880>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 07:04:07 -0400 Received: from (stormbringer.demon.co.uk) [158.152.96.167] by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0ypWku-0000L9-00; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:33:25 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by defaid.demon.co.uk (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA01279 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:27:46 +0100 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:27:45 +0100 (BST) From: Melanie Rhianna Lewis X-Sender: melanie@stormbringer To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The arm-ps2 uk keyboard map In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Trans-world BBS [+44 117 904 0901] X-Mailer: Pine 3.96 X-Host: Melanie's ArmLinux Box - Stormbringer X-MandM-To: ALL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Melanie Rhianna Lewis wrote: > > Whats the keycode for the #/~ key next to return as I would like to edit > this map so that the keys produce the characters they have on them. Sussed it myself thanks. Melanie -- ========================================================================== Melanie Rhianna Lewis melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk Brought to you by Melanie's RiscPC, Stormbringer running ArmLinux! ========================================================================== unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 16:43:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA17487 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:43:34 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22589 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:12:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:59700 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10738-14900>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:11:25 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971415-15880>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:27:55 -0400 Received: from man01.cogency.co.uk ([195.153.128.51]:60959 "HELO mailhost.cogency.co.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971478-15880>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:26:55 -0400 Received: from cogency.co.uk by mailhost.cogency.co.uk (SMI-8.6/PIPEX simple 1.27) id MAA25979; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:51:00 +0100 Message-ID: <35938ACE.D133D37@cogency.co.uk> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:49:34 +0100 From: David Alan Gilbert Organization: Cogency Technology Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stefan Hanske , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ARM and RPM References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Stefan Hanske wrote: > > On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > > I doubt Linux will ever support the `arm1' ;-) Though if anyone fancies > > it I know someone who has one... ;-) > > What's that one, actually. Is it the 6502 ??? No, the ARM1 is rather like an ARM2, but the LDR/STR instructions can take address offsets with register based shifts (i.e. the address offset is basically the same as a data opp second operand I think) - you'll notice that the hole where the undefined instructions are corresponds to that. I think there was some other differences as well (copro support??) but thats the one I remember. Dave -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Dr. David Alan Gilbert - WARNING! This is a beta release .signature- - Work: dg @ cogency.co.uk - +44-(0)161-428-9444 - - Home: gro.gilbert @ treblig.org - - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 17:18:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA17545 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:18:05 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22610 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:46:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:31768 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10400-15808>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:45:46 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971398-15880>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:18:55 -0400 Received: from heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.32.11]:1067 "HELO heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971372-15880> convert rfc822-to-8bit; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:02:56 -0400 Received: from cowslip.cl.cam.ac.uk (cl.cam.ac.uk) [128.232.3.212] (rjb45) by heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ypXfi-0006tE-00; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 13:32:06 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2+CL 2/24/98 To: ARM Linux Subject: Re: ARM and RPM In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:19:05 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 13:32:05 +0100 From: Richard Bradbury Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Wed, 24 Jun 1998 andrewm@corelcomputer.com wrote: > > I'm working on RPM and designing a rpmrc we can all live with. > I need to know what "uname -m" people see other than "sa110", > and what the ARM architecture is for that processor. I've always been baffled by "uname -m". It is supposed to return the machine architecture, but in fact returns the CPU type. The Intel Linux box I use returns "i586" and the variety of other Unix boxes I use give things like "alpha", "sun4u", "RISC" (a MIPS chip) and "9000/725" (HP PA). A newer version of GNU uname (1.16) offers the "-p" option for processor type. This should really be where things like "i486", "arm710", "sa110" and so on should appear. So the question is what can "-m" usefully return? Should it be a generic CPU architecture ("ix86", "alpha", "arm3", "arm4") or should it be an indication of the hardware type ("a5k", "riscpc", "phoebe", "ebsa", "shark", "cats", "netwinder")? The trouble is that with some PCs and workstations, the CPU type implies a particular machine architecture: Intel chip means IBM PC with ISA and PCI buses. This is clearly not the case for the wide variety of ARM Linux machines already out there. At the end of the day, I think it's got to be about binary compatibility. If two machines can run the same set of binaries, then they should return the same value for "uname -m". In a multi-platform Unix environment, I want to be able to write things like: PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin/`uname -m`_`uname -s` In fact, we run a special version of "arch" here which sorts everything out automatically. For example, "arch -bin" reports the correct generic binary directory name: "ix86_linux", "alpha_osf1", "mips_ultrix", etc. In other words, it makes up for the deficiencies of "uname" as implemented in 57 different varieties by the Unix community. For ARM Linux we could have "arm4" for architecture version 4 CPUs and "arm3" for older processors. Or simply "arm" for everything. Comments anyone? -- R. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 19:19:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA17701 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:19:35 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA22658 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:48:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:15680 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10768-14900>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 21:45:58 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971034-15880>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 14:05:30 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:12967 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971777-15880>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:46:25 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id QAA17511; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:47:13 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199806261547.QAA17511@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ARM and RPM To: dg@cogency.co.uk (David Alan Gilbert) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:47:12 +0100 (BST) Cc: shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <35938ACE.D133D37@cogency.co.uk> from "David Alan Gilbert" at Jun 26, 98 12:49:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO David Alan Gilbert > No, the ARM1 is rather like an ARM2, but the LDR/STR instructions can take > address offsets with register based shifts (i.e. the address offset is > basically the same as a data opp second operand I think) - you'll > notice that the hole where the undefined instructions are corresponds to that. ... except they don't actually work ;-) > I think there was some other differences as well (copro support??) > but thats the one I remember. The biggy is MUL. Anyone up for writing a MUL-emulator..? ;-) -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 20:54:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA17910 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 20:54:01 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA22709 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 21:22:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:40232 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10340-9853>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 23:21:43 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971248-15880>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 15:33:58 -0400 Received: from heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.32.11]:3211 "HELO heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970912-5636>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:48:26 -0400 Received: from cowslip.cl.cam.ac.uk (cl.cam.ac.uk) [128.232.3.212] (rjb45) by heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ypbCS-0000QF-00; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:18:08 +0100 To: ARM Linux mailing list Subject: Re: The arm-ps2 uk keyboard map In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:06:12 BST." <359380A4.5028EEB6@illuminated.co.uk> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:18:07 +0100 From: Richard Bradbury Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:06:12, Sam Kington wrote: > > My machine is now set up to use # and ~ properly, and 3 is set up to > produce a pound sign. Unfortunately, I can't get it to actually *print* > a pound sign - it recognises the "sterling" name, but won't do anything > with it. Any ideas? bash doesn't allow you to enter top bit characters directly, although I heard a rumour that there is a clever way to quote such characters (the one in question is octal 243). Curiously, csh lets you do this without needing to quote. In X, things are better worked out, and you should be able to enter top bit characters into text widgets without any problems. -- R. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Jun 26 22:04:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA18092 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 22:04:35 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA22733 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 22:33:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:3433 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19655-14900>; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 00:31:49 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971382-15880>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:29:09 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1850 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971388-5636>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:22:48 -0400 Received: (from alan@localhost) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) id RAA21607; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:52:25 +0100 From: Alan Cox Message-Id: <199806261652.RAA21607@snowcrash.cymru.net> Subject: Re: ARM and RPM To: Richard.Bradbury@cl.cam.ac.uk (Richard Bradbury) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:52:22 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Richard Bradbury" at Jun 26, 98 01:32:05 pm Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > box I use returns "i586" and the variety of other Unix boxes I use give > things like "alpha", "sun4u", "RISC" (a MIPS chip) and "9000/725" > (HP PA). i386,i486,i586 and i686 are architectures, just like sun4c sun4d sun4e sun4m and sun4u > indication of the hardware type ("a5k", "riscpc", "phoebe", "ebsa", > "shark", "cats", "netwinder")? It should report the CPU class arm3/arm4 etc > For ARM Linux we could have "arm4" for architecture version 4 CPUs and > "arm3" for older processors. Or simply "arm" for everything. arm3/arm4 feels right unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Jun 27 01:20:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA18293 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 01:20:22 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22787 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 01:48:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:631 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1230-3796>; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 03:48:21 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971187-15361>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:02:44 -0400 Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk ([194.131.104.13]:55284 "HELO golden.argonet.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971404-15361>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:26:33 -0400 Received: from (193.130.245.231) [193.130.245.231] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0ypgU8-0000ZP-00; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 22:56:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: jhayes@argonet.co.uk ("scijmoz") Reply-To: jhayes@argonet.co.uk To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Fri, 26 Jun 98 22:33:24 X-Mailer: VTi Internet Email reader 1.09 : aa Subject: Installing on A5k (4mb) Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Thankyou for advice but still trying to overcome memory problem:- Symlink 2: out of memory. Is it possible to install on 4mb ,any more suggestions most welcome. John. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Jun 27 02:30:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA18378 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 02:30:50 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22795 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 02:59:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:32028 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1069-14900>; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 04:58:48 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970862-15361>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:09:09 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1222 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "TIMEDOUT2") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970967-15361>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 14:06:41 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0ypcbU-0002mI-00; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:48:04 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Richard Bradbury cc: ARM Linux Subject: Re: ARM and RPM In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 26 Jun 1998 13:32:05 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:48:03 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >For ARM Linux we could have "arm4" for architecture version 4 CPUs and >"arm3" for older processors. Or simply "arm" for everything. I'd suggest just `arm' for everything. As you say, there are other ways to find out the precise CPU type if you want it. Having `uname -m' return the processor type just means that autoconf needs to be able to munge all of the possibilities back to generic `arm' and will mean updating all these scripts when a new CPU comes along. (Also, I believe this is more in line with what other Linux ports do.) p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Jun 27 02:31:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA18385 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 02:31:54 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA22799 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 03:00:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:32028 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1069-14900>; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 04:59:59 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971857-15361>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:21:44 -0400 Received: from jeffray.demon.co.uk ([193.237.58.117]:1052 "EHLO jeffray.demon.co.uk" ident: "ian") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971692-15361>; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 14:09:24 -0400 Received: from localhost (ian@localhost) by jeffray.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA00344 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 09:50:25 +0100 Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 09:50:25 +0100 (BST) From: Ian Jeffray Reply-To: ian@jeffray.demon.co.uk To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ARM and RPM In-Reply-To: <35938ACE.D133D37@cogency.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, David Alan Gilbert wrote: > Stefan Hanske wrote: > > > > On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > > > > I doubt Linux will ever support the `arm1' ;-) Though if anyone fancies > > > it I know someone who has one... ;-) > > > > What's that one, actually. Is it the 6502 ??? > > No, the ARM1 is rather like an ARM2, but the LDR/STR instructions can take > address offsets with register based shifts (i.e. the address offset is > basically the same as a data opp second operand I think) - you'll > notice that the hole where the undefined instructions are corresponds to that. Yes... very odd... know why they did that? > I think there was some other differences as well (copro support??) > but thats the one I remember. I thought that the ARM1 didnt have MUL ... but I could be wrong. Ian -- Ian Jeffray // Tel: 0131 346 0124 // Mobile: 0378 392 963 // ian@eh.org unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Jun 27 20:50:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA19278 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 20:50:47 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA22925 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:19:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:19224 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1047-9853>; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 23:19:18 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971239-28148>; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:45:45 -0400 Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk ([194.131.104.13]:64907 "HELO golden.argonet.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971233-28148>; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:45:18 -0400 Received: from (argbr88) [193.130.245.204] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yq1QY-0007Kg-00; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:18:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dana K Scully To: Linux-arm mailing list Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:16:32 +0100 Message-ID: <485cede27fdkscully@argonet.co.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.09b for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Thanks for help at Acorn SE show Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I'd just like to express my thanks publicly to Phil and Matthew for all their help in getting my system running. Thanks guys, you're great. :) L * You fill a much-needed gap. -- | |\/| / BSc (Hons) Chemistry (So'ton), ZFC A (Sc) |__esley | |itchell / dkscully@argonet.co.uk A woman of many talents. :) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Jun 27 21:14:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA19289 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:14:11 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA22935 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:42:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:9262 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1603-3796>; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 23:37:49 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971122-28148>; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 16:04:05 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1728 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971037-28148>; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 16:03:43 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup0.cymru.net [163.164.160.64]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA16183; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:36:45 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA05928; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 20:56:45 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA03472; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 20:57:35 +0100 Message-Id: <199806271957.UAA03472@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: My catchup state + Mails To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, arm-linux@tardis.ed.ac.uk Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 20:57:34 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi All, I've now caught up with my mail and kernel source code. If I haven't replied to your mail yet, then chances are that I've missed it/it's buried in the depths of my mailboxes. If you still require a reply, please remail your question. Thanks. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Jun 28 00:02:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA19608 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 00:02:52 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA23005 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 00:31:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:30536 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1714-3796>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 02:31:21 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970804-3822>; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 18:57:07 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:43175 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970791-3822>; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 18:52:56 -0400 Received: from (knight-soft.demon.co.uk) [194.222.142.48] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yq4MN-0002ib-00; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 23:26:19 +0000 Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 23:53:31 +0100 (BST) From: Richard Barrass Subject: New installation, compiling problems To: ARM Linux vger mailing list Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Knight Software Solutions. X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.45] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, I've just installed ArmLinux (from the Clan CD) and have a few initial questions. 1) do I need to update the installation (the RedHat bit) since I'm running the latest kernel I think (2.0.34) 2) is there an easy way to update modify the installtion of the RPM's ? there doesn't seem to be a admin tool - there is the control-panel application that runs under X, but that doesn't seem to allow me to alter the packages installed. 3) I downloaded the KDE rpm source and the latest qt 1.33 source, but the compilation of qt fails at the first attempt - I think there is limited mention regarding KDE/qt on this list in the past, but i think the compilation failed due to problems with the headers... /usr/local/errno.h includes but can't find it... is there something missing in my installation ? I've successfully compiled qt and 3/4 the way through compiling KDE when I have a spare moment at work (Sun Ultra) so feel I would like to have a go at getting it working on ArmLinux... Phew, that seems a lot to ask on my first posting... many thanks in advance for the help and I'm sure more in the future. Richard -- Richard Barrass Linux mailinglist, RiscPC 610, Arm710 - 12Mb/1Mb RAM ~500Mb ext2 partition unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Jun 28 11:36:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199] (may be forged)) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA20191 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:36:05 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23091 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:04:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:605 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20095-9853>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:04:14 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970868-3822>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 06:29:35 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:32736 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970897-3822>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 06:28:50 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (MAA22008); Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:02:44 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:02:44 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: rmk@arm.uk.linux.org, pb@nexus.co.uk cc: ARM Linux Subject: ELF Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi! Built GCC & Binutils as crosscompilers on the PC, tried compiling glibc. Everything gets built up to stdio-common/errlist.os which dies complaining about an unrecognised type. We tracked down the problem to line 556 of the error output where it says: .type __old_sys_errlist,@object -- the @ sign is being treated as a line-comment and the "object" is stripped before gas gets to process it. Anyone think of a good fix for it? I assume `@object' has a different meaning to `%object' and `#object'. Matthew Wilcox & Phil Norman. -- Rule of programming #3: The number of bugs which exist in a program is approximately equal to the square of the number of bugs which you think exist. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Jun 28 12:03:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA20427 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:03:53 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23100 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:32:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:26738 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20012-15808>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:31:55 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970956-3822>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 06:54:19 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1888 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971069-3822>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 06:52:42 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup3.cymru.net [163.164.160.67]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id MAA28156; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:26:48 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA06931; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:26:10 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id MAA00795; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:26:58 +0100 Message-Id: <199806281126.MAA00795@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: ELF To: P.C.F.Norman@exeter.ac.uk (Phil Norman) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:26:58 +0100 (BST) Cc: rmk@arm.uk.linux.org, pb@nexus.co.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Phil Norman" at Jun 28, 98 12:02:44 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Phil Norman writes: > .type __old_sys_errlist,@object > > -- the @ sign is being treated as a line-comment and the "object" is > stripped before gas gets to process it. Anyone think of a good fix for > it? I assume `@object' has a different meaning to `%object' and > `#object'. @object and #object mean the same thing. On the ARM, #object should be used instead of @object. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Jun 28 13:04:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA20502 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:04:02 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23108 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:32:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:34640 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19469-9853>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:31:53 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970812-3822>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 07:57:17 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:38098 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970900-3822>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 07:55:00 -0400 Received: from (illuminated.co.uk) [193.237.154.122] by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yqGZz-0003Xw-00; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:29:11 +0000 Message-ID: <35963772.7BBA9113@illuminated.co.uk> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:30:42 +0100 From: Sam Kington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ARM Linux mailing list Subject: Perl 5.004.04 and printf %f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, I've just discovered that the version of Perl 5.004.04 I compiled a month or two ago, has serious problems with printf %f or %g (all other kinds are fine). Although it's perfectly happy adding floats together and casting them to ints, as soon as you say, e.g. printf("%f", 23.23) it hangs, solid. The perl5.001m binary off the ftp site works fine, however. So: is there a patch I need to make to Perl to get it running happily, or a configuration option I missed? (I'm running 2.0.33 on a StrongARM, nothing obviously dodgy I don't think - I've got Apache 1.3, qvwm and a few other dribs and drabs running happily) Sam -- Home page: http://www.illuminated.co.uk/ INWO Homebrew has moved: http://www.illuminated.co.uk/inwo/ Entropy isn't what it used to be. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Jun 28 15:33:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA20657 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:33:27 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA23122 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:02:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:24160 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20276-9853>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:01:42 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970977-3822>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 10:26:45 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1962 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970951-3822>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 10:26:11 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yqIl4-0007e6-00; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:48:46 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin cc: P.C.F.Norman@exeter.ac.uk (Phil Norman), rmk@arm.uk.linux.org, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ELF In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:26:58 BST." <199806281126.MAA00795@raistlin.armlinux.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:48:46 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >Phil Norman writes: >> .type __old_sys_errlist,@object >> >> -- the @ sign is being treated as a line-comment and the "object" is >> stripped before gas gets to process it. Anyone think of a good fix for >> it? I assume `@object' has a different meaning to `%object' and >> `#object'. > >@object and #object mean the same thing. On the ARM, #object should be >used instead of @object. Actually `%object' is the current official recommendation. But you're right, @ # and % are all synonymous. `#' turned out not to be such a good bet because the NetBSD kernel won't build like that (it uses .type in CPP macros). p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Jun 28 15:33:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA20660 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:33:31 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA23125 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:02:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:24160 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19672-14900>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:01:52 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971012-3822>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 10:26:50 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1966 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970956-3822>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 10:26:04 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yqIq3-0007fX-00; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:53:55 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Phil Norman cc: rmk@arm.uk.linux.org, ARM Linux Subject: Re: ELF In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:02:44 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:53:54 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >Everything gets built up to stdio-common/errlist.os which dies >complaining about an unrecognised type. We tracked down the problem to >line 556 of the error output where it says: > >.type __old_sys_errlist,@object Can you work out where this .type directive is coming from? It'll either be GCC generating it or the result of a macro expansion from one of the glibc sysdep.h files. In either case as Russell says it needs to be corrected to use % rather than @. It looks like I may have lost a patch somewhere. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Jun 28 15:46:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA20667 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:46:08 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA23130 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:15:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:42356 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19771-14900>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:14:11 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971016-3822>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 10:39:09 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1976 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971015-3822>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 10:38:57 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yqJ0v-0007i2-00; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:05:09 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Sam Kington cc: ARM Linux mailing list Subject: Re: Perl 5.004.04 and printf %f In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:30:42 BST." <35963772.7BBA9113@illuminated.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:05:09 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >kinds are fine). Although it's perfectly happy adding floats together >and casting them to ints, as soon as you say, e.g. >printf("%f", 23.23) it hangs, solid. Do you mean your machine locks up, or the Perl process just goes catatonic? If the former it's a kernel problem, though it may be being tickled by something Perl is doing. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Jun 28 16:48:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA20766 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:48:50 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23142 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:17:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:35373 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20037-15808>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:17:33 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971086-3822>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:40:35 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1663 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971071-3822>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:36:06 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup4.cymru.net [163.164.160.68]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id RAA31711; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:10:27 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA07085; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:10:06 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id RAA02115; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:10:36 +0100 Message-Id: <199806281610.RAA02115@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: ELF To: philb@gnu.org (Philip Blundell) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:10:35 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux@arm.uk.linux.org, P.C.F.Norman@exeter.ac.uk, rmk@arm.uk.linux.org, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Jun 28, 98 03:48:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin > cc: P.C.F.Norman@exeter.ac.uk (Phil Norman), rmk@arm.uk.linux.org, > linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Erm, excuse me, but this is getting silly. I don't want 3 copies of the same message: linux@arm.uk.linux.org rmk@arm.uk.linux.org linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu -> linux@arm.uk.linux.org Argh! _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Jun 28 18:11:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA20832 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:11:04 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA23163 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:39:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:51486 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <19537-14900>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 20:39:48 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971144-3822>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:03:28 -0400 Received: from hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.16.101]:40532 "HELO hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971166-3822>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:49:14 -0400 Received: from lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk by hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk with SMTP-GLA (MMTA) with ESMTP; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:24:00 +0100 Received: from localhost (9606585c@localhost) by lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk (8.8.4/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA27363; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:23:55 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:23:55 +0100 (BST) From: James Craig <9606585c@udcf.gla.ac.uk> X-Sender: 9606585c@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ELF In-Reply-To: <199806281610.RAA02115@raistlin.armlinux.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > > To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin > > cc: P.C.F.Norman@exeter.ac.uk (Phil Norman), rmk@arm.uk.linux.org, > > linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu > > Erm, excuse me, but this is getting silly. I don't want 3 copies of > the same message: > linux@arm.uk.linux.org > rmk@arm.uk.linux.org > linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu -> linux@arm.uk.linux.org > Argh! Somehow, I manage not to get multiple copies of messages even when people *do* do that. Is it just pine noticing that they are all the same message or is it just luck or something? -- James Craig <9606585c@udcf.gla.ac.uk> unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Jun 28 18:52:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA20926 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:52:15 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA23173 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:21:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:46400 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10359-15808>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 21:20:44 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971149-3822>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:36:39 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:65191 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971150-3822>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:11:28 -0400 Received: from (illuminated.co.uk) [193.237.154.122] by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yqLWq-0003vW-00; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:46:17 +0000 Message-ID: <359681C4.9BBD2364@illuminated.co.uk> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:47:48 +0100 From: Sam Kington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ARM Linux mailing list Subject: Re: Perl 5.004.04 and printf %f References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Philip Blundell wrote: > > >kinds are fine). Although it's perfectly happy adding floats together > >and casting them to ints, as soon as you say, e.g. > >printf("%f", 23.23) it hangs, solid. > > Do you mean your machine locks up, or the Perl process just goes > catatonic? Perl hangs; the rest of the machine is fine, and I can Ctrl-Z it then kill it without any problems. A simple printf statement in C works as expected, and every other aspect of floating-point seems perfectly happy - as I mentioned, this Perl has been running all my web server's scripts quite happily for about a month or so. If I have time, I'll try and dig around in the source to find out where printf is actually defined. I had actually hoped that whoever built the original binary rpm for perl5.001m was reading this list and could jump in with a quick fix. Sam -- Home page: http://www.illuminated.co.uk/ INWO Homebrew has moved: http://www.illuminated.co.uk/inwo/ "... After all, all he did was string together a lot of old, well-known quotations." - H. L. Mencken, on Shakespeare unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Jun 28 19:38:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA20971 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:38:51 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA23180 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 20:07:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:6768 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1381-9853>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:07:36 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971108-3822>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:20:17 -0400 Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk ([194.131.104.13]:40634 "HELO golden.argonet.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971292-3822>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:58:36 -0400 Received: from (193.130.245.169) [193.130.245.169] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yqMGn-0004RR-00; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:33:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: jhayes@argonet.co.uk ("scijmoz") Reply-To: jhayes@argonet.co.uk To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Sun, 28 Jun 98 19:31:32 X-Mailer: VTi Internet Email reader 1.09 : aa Subject: Installing on A5k (4mb) Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Thankyou for advice but still trying to overcome memory problem:- Symlink 2: out of memory. Is it possible to install on 4mb ,any more suggestions most welcome. John. Sorry if This Is a repost, my mail got all screwed up. One reason I want to run Armlinux!! unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Jun 28 20:16:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA21052 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 20:16:36 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA23196 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 20:45:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:1565 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1856-14900>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:44:52 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971162-3822>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:55:26 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:2141 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971229-3822>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:38:48 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yqMiL-0007vA-00; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 20:02:13 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: new binutils patch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 20:02:13 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, I've put another small patch for binutils in the same directory as the last one. It needs to be applied on top of the previous changes; this fixes two bugs (one that was preventing text .init from working and the a.out one reported here). This latter fix is the same one I posted on this list recently. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Jun 28 22:32:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA21310 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:32:38 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA23221 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:01:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:63296 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11097-14900>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 01:00:51 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971279-3822>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:24:34 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:57436 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971245-3822>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:20:59 -0400 Received: from (knight-soft.demon.co.uk) [194.222.142.48] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yqPR4-0007cQ-00; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 21:56:35 +0000 Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:55:15 +0100 (BST) From: Richard Barrass Subject: keyboard driver To: ARM Linux vger mailing list Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Knight Software Solutions. X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.45] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, I'm not sure if perhaps I made a mistake while initially installing ArmLinux, but I'm having some problems getting to grips with the keyboard driver, especially as far as the backspace / delete key go. I normally have my tty's configured as stty erase ^H intr ^C but the backspace key doesn't seem to be generating '^H' and is equivalent to the Delete key (which is the STOP key). Also, CTRL-Z doesn't suspend a foreground task as I would expect. Can anyone explain how I go about cofigureing the keyboard driver Cheers, Richard PS: I think I selected 'UK keyboard' in the RedHat installer but can't really remember now ! -- Richard Barrass Linux mailinglist, RiscPC 610, Arm710 - 12Mb/1Mb RAM ~500Mb ext2 partition unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Jun 28 23:41:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA21367 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:41:13 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA23300 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 00:10:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:52774 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <20331-9853>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 02:09:52 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971284-3822>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:33:49 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:36401 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971269-3822>; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:33:27 -0400 Received: from (reinhouse.demon.co.uk) [212.228.88.2] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yqQZC-0004lp-00; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:09:03 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by reinhouse.demon.co.uk with SMTP; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:24:06 GMT Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:16:24 +0100 From: Timothy Baldwin To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: !Linux alpha Message-ID: <485D7CB227%tim@reinhouse.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.21beta MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I have just downloaded the alpha !Linux following the link on the web site, but I can't dearchive it. I have tried using : ArcFS 0.73a SparkPlug 2.26 unzip 5.31 under RISC OS unzip under ARM Linux tar " gunzip " And get various error messages. I downloaded it twice with Acorn Browse 2.05. Can anybody help? unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 29 07:54:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA21786 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:54:12 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA23351 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:54:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:15653 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1181-15808>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:52:25 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971414-3822>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 02:05:57 -0400 Received: from [210.154.37.2] ([210.154.37.2]:4146 "EHLO ns.funai-tky.co.jp" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971410-3822>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 02:04:40 -0400 Received: from hiropu ([192.168.1.19] (may be forged)) by ns.funai-tky.co.jp (8.8.6/3.4W4-FUNAI-TKY-970730) with SMTP id PAA30938 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 15:39:01 +0900 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 15:39:39 +0900 From: Hiroshi Ishii To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Mystery????(brutus board) Message-Id: <359736AB18E.6DB8HIROSHI@mail.funai-tky.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.24.13 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi. I staggered brutus-linux about one-month. I found mysterious code in init/main.c. printk("skipping start of pageout daemon (swapper)\n"); /* Start the background pageout daemon. */ //kernel_thread(kswapd, NULL, 0); /* XXX try without swapping * Not using pageout daemon!!!!!! Complete work ? -------------------------------------- Funai Electric Engineering Co.,LTD -Hiroshi Ishii unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 29 10:19:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA21986 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:19:35 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23380 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:19:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:53769 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1673-9853>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:19:26 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970945-3822>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 04:41:52 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:44599 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970944-3822>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 04:41:38 -0400 Received: from mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06769 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:18:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.157]) by mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA19178 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:18:35 +0200 Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf2) id AA24451; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:18:34 +0200 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:18:33 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Installing on A5k (4mb) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, scijmoz wrote: > Is it possible to install on 4mb ,any more suggestions most welcome. > I just had to do it again last week. It works if you use the older distribution (it should still be on the ftp server), since you need mkswap from that distrib & a linux box running to modify the boot disks. Btw, it's better to upgrade to 8MB cause Linux on 4MB ram is painfully slow (takes minutes to the login prompt). ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 29 14:22:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA22243 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:22:18 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23456 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:22:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:22121 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1732-14900>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:19:19 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971056-3822>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:39:08 -0400 Received: from relay2.UU.NET ([192.48.96.7]:3387 "EHLO relay2.UU.NET" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971031-3822>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:38:16 -0400 Received: from xedia.com by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: madway.xedia.com [198.202.232.199]) id QQevwf04789; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:15:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tonga.xedia.com by xedia.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15092; Mon, 29 Jun 98 09:15:45 EDT Received: by tonga.xedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA19127; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:15:29 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:15:29 -0400 Message-Id: <199806291315.JAA19127@tonga.xedia.com> From: Paul Koning Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: alan@cymru.net Cc: Richard.Bradbury@cl.cam.ac.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ARM and RPM References: <199806261652.RAA21607@snowcrash.cymru.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >>>>> "Alan" == Alan Cox writes: >> For ARM Linux we could have "arm4" for architecture version 4 CPUs >> and "arm3" for older processors. Or simply "arm" for everything. Alan> arm3/arm4 feels right. Agreed, but how about adding "t" for Thumb when present? Or is that not interesting for our purposes? paul unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 29 14:52:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA22298 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:52:08 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi ([128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23447 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:01:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:5944 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1795-3796>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 15:59:40 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971055-3822>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:21:52 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:26651 "HELO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971089-3822>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:19:39 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yqdNh-0005QO-00; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:50:01 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yqdNg-00035t-00; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:50:00 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Vincent PENNE cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ELF In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:58:53 +0200." <3597817D.41C6@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:50:00 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >They come from the .c source. There are only two files causing this >problem, so this is not too serious. (I don't remember the name of the >second one, sorry) I have a patch to solve this, I might bring it >tomorow. Oh yes, I remember now. I fixed that at one point but the patch must have gotten lost. Sorry. >There was also a problem in clone.S, which contains at the same time new >version and old version of itself ... Yes, that was my fault. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 29 15:20:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA22324 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 15:20:04 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA23475 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 15:20:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:49506 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1525-14900>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:19:09 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971133-3822>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:36:48 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:26792 "HELO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971136-3822>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:34:18 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yqeOI-0005V3-00; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:54:42 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yqeOH-0003FT-00; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:54:41 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Paul Koning cc: alan@cymru.net, Richard.Bradbury@cl.cam.ac.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ARM and RPM In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:15:29 EDT." <199806291315.JAA19127@tonga.xedia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:54:40 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >Agreed, but how about adding "t" for Thumb when present? Or is that >not interesting for our purposes? It's not, really. If somebody wanted to actually _use_ the Thumb instruction set then they could invent a name for that, but there's no real need to encode the mere presence of Thumb in the name. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 29 15:26:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA22334 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 15:26:11 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA23479 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 15:26:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:49506 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1540-15808>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:25:30 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971298-3822>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:47:19 -0400 Received: from mail.corelcomputer.com ([209.167.41.130]:3810 "EHLO cccpo.corelcomputer.com" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971284-3822>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:44:57 -0400 Received: from cccmail.corelcomputer.com ([209.167.41.133]) by cccpo.corelcomputer.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with ESMTP id 274 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:22:59 -0400 Received: from corelcomputer.com ([10.1.110.8]) by cccmail.corelcomputer.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with ESMTP id 474; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:21:12 -0400 Message-ID: <3597A350.79A4FA23@corelcomputer.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:23:12 -0400 From: "Andrew E. Mileski" Organization: Corel Computer Corp. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philip Blundell CC: Richard Bradbury , ARM Linux Subject: Re: ARM and RPM References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > I'd suggest just `arm' for everything. As you say, there are other ways to > find out the precise CPU type if you want it. Having `uname -m' return the > processor type just means that autoconf needs to be able to munge all of the > possibilities back to generic `arm' and will mean updating all these scripts > when a new CPU comes along. > > (Also, I believe this is more in line with what other Linux ports do.) This will make it difficult impossible distinguish an ARM3 compatible RPM from an ARM4 one. RPM relies on "uname -m". -- Andrew E. Mileski mailto:andrewm@CorelComputer.com Software Developer Corel Computer Corp. http://www.CorelComputer.com/ OSC-CCC Technical Liaison http://www.NetWinder.org/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 29 16:18:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA22389 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:18:52 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA23497 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:18:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:3702 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1345-9853>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:17:57 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971137-3822>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:39:42 -0400 Received: from heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.32.11]:3367 "HELO heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970864-3822>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:37:55 -0400 Received: from fiver.cl.cam.ac.uk (cl.cam.ac.uk) [128.232.3.210] (rjb45) by heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yqfeW-0003m7-00; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:15:32 +0100 To: "Andrew E. Mileski" cc: Philip Blundell , ARM Linux Subject: Re: ARM and RPM In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:23:12 EDT." <3597A350.79A4FA23@corelcomputer.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:15:20 +0100 From: Richard Bradbury Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:23:12, "Andrew E. Mileski" wrote: > > > I'd suggest just `arm' for everything. > > This will make it difficult impossible distinguish an ARM3 > compatible RPM from an ARM4 one. RPM relies on "uname -m". I was under the impression that there was only one set of ARM Linux RPMs which ran on both ARM v3 and ARM v4 architecture CPUs. I am mistaken, or is this a distinction made by the Corel port and not by Russel's? (What exactly _is_ the relationship between these two ports?) Is binary compatibility possible with a.out but not with ELF due to memory management difficulties on ARM v3? Did we ever decide whether the ARM610 was v3 or v4? If the former, is it right to lump the ARM3 and the ARM610 together given their different memory management hardware? So many questions... I think I need a lie down :-) -- R. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 29 17:30:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA22495 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:30:19 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23531 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:30:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:4885 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1426-3796>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:30:07 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971142-3822>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:51:59 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1415 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971178-3822>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:51:48 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup2.cymru.net [163.164.160.66]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id RAA25394; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:29:11 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA07735; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:58:09 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id QAA00463; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:59:05 +0100 Message-Id: <199806291559.QAA00463@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: ARM and RPM To: andrewm@corelcomputer.com (Andrew E. Mileski) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:59:04 +0100 (BST) Cc: philb@gnu.org, Richard.Bradbury@cl.cam.ac.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <3597A350.79A4FA23@corelcomputer.com> from "Andrew E. Mileski" at Jun 29, 98 10:23:12 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Andrew E. Mileski writes: > This will make it difficult impossible distinguish an ARM3 > compatible RPM from an ARM4 one. RPM relies on "uname -m". However, as far as RPMs and user programs are concerned, there is very little point in distinguishing between the processors alone. For a.out, since everything runs in 26-bit mode, it is irrelevent. For ELF, the fact that the binary runs in 32-bit mode doesn't affect it's compatability with the older machines. Currently, the only thing that I can think is affected by the processor - the floating point emulator. On Acorn systems, the keyboard mapping that is loaded is influenced by the processor type (since an ARM3 can only mean an older keyboard, whereas ARM610 and up implies newer keyboard). Ok, you could optimise the binaries, for instance, to use StrongARM ldrh/strh instructions, but uname -m won't tell you if the machine is capable of running these, since that is more dependent on the platform than processor. (RiscPC can't use StrongARMs ldrh/strh instructions since IOMD isn't up to it). It also won't tell you the endianness of the machine, since that is again up to the platform designers. Hence, the use of 'uname -m' as it stands for selecting RPMs is meaningless, whether it returns the processor architecture version or the actual processor type. Is there a hole here? I think so, since on the ARM, the processor type/architecture is not sufficient to completely define the machine. There is some extra information that is required to properly define the machine type. Since uname -m is supposed to 'Print the machine (hardware) type.', it would make more sense if it returned something like: armv4h-little for Corel's Netwinder/DECs EBSA285 armv4-little for Acorn's RiscPC with StrongARM armv3-little for Acorn's RiscPC with ARM610/710 The older machines present some problem, because they don't have a defined version. However, we could say that ARM3 (with swp) is version 2, and ARM2 without is version 1, so we end up with: armv2-little for Acorn's A5000 armv1-little for Acorn's Archimedes This then allows for the case where someone decides to build a big-endian ARM system (quite possible, since the ARM chips support it), and it's hardware type would be: armv4h-big Obviously, these could be abbreviated to armv4hl, armv4l and armv4b. A more accurate description could be obtained by using armv4-riscpc but I think that that would be going too far. Note: arch (/bin/arch) uses the same source of information, so any changes here also affects the output of this program as well. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 29 17:32:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA22510 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:32:13 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23534 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:32:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:4885 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1426-15808>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:32:17 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971179-3822>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:54:07 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1517 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971178-3822>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:53:39 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup2.cymru.net [163.164.160.66]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id RAA25397; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:29:15 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA07746; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:02:37 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id RAA00479; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:03:33 +0100 Message-Id: <199806291603.RAA00479@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: ARM and RPM To: pb@nexus.co.uk (Philip Blundell) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:03:32 +0100 (BST) Cc: pkoning@xedia.com, alan@cymru.net, Richard.Bradbury@cl.cam.ac.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Jun 29, 98 02:54:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Philip Blundell writes: > >Agreed, but how about adding "t" for Thumb when present? Or is that > >not interesting for our purposes? > > It's not, really. If somebody wanted to actually _use_ the Thumb instruction > set then they could invent a name for that, but there's no real need to encode > the mere presence of Thumb in the name. Except of you're RPMs were compiled for Thumb (and hence wouldn't work on a StrongARM, for instance). Don't forget that the Thumb instructions are effectively a different dialect. It would also be incorrect to use a separate new name for a Thumb-capable processor since it is still capable of running the full ARM instruction set. Maybe this is something that can be addressed in the /usr/lib/rpmrc using the compatibility matrix? _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 29 17:52:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA22620 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:52:06 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi ([128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA23521 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:56:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:22853 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1754-9853>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:54:26 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971161-3822>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:15:07 -0400 Received: from cptsg4.univ-mrs.fr ([139.124.7.104]:2739 "HELO cptsg4" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971166-3822>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:08:07 -0400 Received: from cptsg4 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cptsg4 (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA03420; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:43:05 +0200 Message-ID: <3597B609.2781@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:43:05 +0200 From: Vincent PENNE Organization: Centre de Physique Theorique de Marseille X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; IRIX64 6.2 IP28) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philip Blundell CC: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ELF References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Philip Blundell wrote: > > >They come from the .c source. There are only two files causing this > >problem, so this is not too serious. (I don't remember the name of the > >second one, sorry) I have a patch to solve this, I might bring it > >tomorow. > > Oh yes, I remember now. I fixed that at one point but the patch must have > gotten lost. Sorry. > > >There was also a problem in clone.S, which contains at the same time new > >version and old version of itself ... > > Yes, that was my fault. > > p. However, after having fixed these three problems, it still doesn't work : I cannot BUILD libc.so, when doing this the linker report many multiple of undefined symbols. Might your last patch to binutils solve this, or is there another problem. I'll try to think to bring the exact error message of ld tomorrow, if it can help you ... I am working under kernel v2.0.33, and it is able to execute ld.so (which is reported as being an ELF executable), does this mean that ELF should work under my kernel, or do I need to go on 2.1.something in order to make really this work. Could my undefined symbol problem come from the use of a wrong kernel version ?? Finally, last question, are you building all this under arm-linux, or are you cross-compiling from an other type machine ? Vincent. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 29 18:26:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA22723 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:26:27 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA23544 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:26:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:62026 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1118-9853>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:25:38 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971220-3822>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:47:22 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:27244 "HELO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971224-3822>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:46:19 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yqhYb-0005kl-00; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:17:33 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yqhYa-00076b-00; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:17:32 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Richard Bradbury cc: ARM Linux Subject: Re: ARM and RPM In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:15:20 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:17:31 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >Did we ever decide whether the ARM610 was v3 or v4? If the former, is >it right to lump the ARM3 and the ARM610 together given their >different memory management hardware? The ARM3 is actually a v2 CPU. The ARM6/7 is v3. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 29 19:34:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA22909 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:34:55 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA23555 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:35:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:22084 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1632-14900>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:33:59 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971264-3822>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:55:42 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:2259 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "TIMEDOUT2") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971277-3822>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:51:00 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yqiYf-0000ZG-00; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:21:41 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: siglist Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:21:41 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Here's the patch for the siglist .type problem that I forgot. I'm still considering whether to put this in or fix it in GAS. Anyway, it should do the trick for now. (I'm not quite sure why I didn't use ASM_TYPE_DIRECTIVE though I have a feeling there was a reason at the time.) p. --- /dev/null Sun Oct 12 19:38:15 1997 +++ libc/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/arm/siglist.c Sat May 23 14:22:57 1998 @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +/* Copyright (C) 1997, 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. + This file is part of the GNU C Library. + + The GNU C Library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or + modify it under the terms of the GNU Library General Public License as + published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the + License, or (at your option) any later version. + + The GNU C Library is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, + but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of + MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU + Library General Public License for more details. + + You should have received a copy of the GNU Library General Public + License along with the GNU C Library; see the file COPYING.LIB. If not, + write to the Free Software Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, + Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA. */ + +#include +#include +#include + +#if defined HAVE_ELF && defined PIC && defined DO_VERSIONING +# define SYS_SIGLIST __new_sys_siglist +# define SYS_SIGABBREV __new_sys_sigabbrev +#else +# define SYS_SIGLIST _sys_siglist +# define SYS_SIGABBREV _sys_sigabbrev +#endif + +#if defined HAVE_ELF && defined PIC && defined DO_VERSIONING +asm (".data; .globl __old_sys_siglist; __old_sys_siglist:"); +#endif + +const char *const SYS_SIGLIST[NSIG] = +{ +#define init_sig(sig, abbrev, desc) [sig] desc, +#include "siglist.h" +#undef init_sig +}; + +#if defined HAVE_ELF && defined PIC && defined DO_VERSIONING +asm (".type __old_sys_siglist,%object;.size __old_sys_siglist," + OLD_SIGLIST_SIZE_STR "*" PTR_SIZE_STR); + +asm (".data; .globl __old_sys_sigabbrev; __old_sys_sigabbrev:"); +#endif + +const char *const SYS_SIGABBREV[NSIG] = +{ +#define init_sig(sig, abbrev, desc) [sig] abbrev, +#include "siglist.h" +#undef init_sig +}; + +#if defined HAVE_ELF && defined PIC && defined DO_VERSIONING +asm (".type __old_sys_sigabbrev,%object;.size __old_sys_sigabbrev," + OLD_SIGLIST_SIZE_STR "*" PTR_SIZE_STR); + +extern const char *const *__old_sys_siglist; +extern const char *const *__old_sys_sigabbrev; + +strong_alias (__old_sys_siglist, _old_sys_siglist) +symbol_version (__old_sys_siglist, _sys_siglist, GLIBC_2.0); +symbol_version (_old_sys_siglist, sys_siglist, GLIBC_2.0); +symbol_version (__old_sys_sigabbrev, sys_sigabbrev, GLIBC_2.0); + +strong_alias (__new_sys_siglist, _new_sys_siglist) +default_symbol_version (__new_sys_siglist, _sys_siglist, GLIBC_2.1); +default_symbol_version (_new_sys_siglist, sys_siglist, GLIBC_2.1); +default_symbol_version (__new_sys_sigabbrev, sys_sigabbrev, GLIBC_2.1); +#else +weak_alias (_sys_siglist, sys_siglist) +weak_alias (_sys_sigabbrev, sys_sigabbrev) +#endif unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jun 29 20:41:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA23024 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:41:16 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA23565 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:41:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14600 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1507-14900>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 22:40:57 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971277-3822>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:59:36 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:2308 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971302-3822>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:58:08 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yqjcF-0000ht-00; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:29:27 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:29:26 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO If I got everything right (ho, ho) this should be OK for both ELF and a.out. Give it a go. p. ------- Forwarded Message From: hjl@lucon.org (H.J. Lu) Subject: binutils 2.9.1.0.7 is released To: linux-gcc@vger.rutgers.edu (linuxgcc) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:11:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-gcc@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-gcc@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Hi, Since I haven't got any bug reports on 2.9.1.0.6 and 2.9.1.0.7 has only ARM bug fixes, I will release it to public in a day or 2. Thanks. - -- H.J. Lu (hjl@gnu.org) - ---- This is the beta release of binutils 2.9.1.0.7 for Linux, which is based on binutils 2.9.1 plus Linux/ARM support and some x86 assembler changes. I am planing to release this to the public as the final public release for binutils 2.9.1.0.x based on binutils 2.9.1 and the current 16-bit x86 assembler changes. The future release will be based on the binutils snapshot, which has a different approach for 16-bit x86 assembly code. Please test it as much as you can. There was some problem on Linux/alpha. The binaries generated by the new binituls may not run correctly on Linux/alpha. It turned out it was a bug in the alpha dynamic linker in glibc 2.0.6. The current glibc 2.1 and glibc 2.0.7 should be ok. This release should work on linux/x86/alpha. There are some ELF bug fixes. But I don't know if it fixes all the bugs reported on linux/sparc, Linux/MIPS and linux/PPC. I'd like to hear reports on them. I'd like to release it to public soon. Please test it as much as you can. Please report any bugs related to binutils 2.9.1.0.7 to hjl@lucon.org. Changes from binutils 2.9.1.0.6: 1. Fix various ARM bugs. Changes from binutils 2.9.1.0.5: 1. A MIPS assembler ".align" bug is fixed. 2. bfd.h, bfd.h and bfdlink.h are included in the binary package. Changes from binutils 2.9.1.0.4: 1. 2 x86 16bit mode assembler bugs, "ret" and "movb $35,0x4(%di)", are fixed. IMPORTANT: The .plt format that the Alpha was using was not thread safe. So I changed it. The new format is *not* binary compatible with the old, thus you must use glibc 2.0.4 to get an ld.so that can understand it. Note that the new ld.so knows how to deal with the old .plt format, so old libraries will still work, but they should be relinked eventually for performance reasons. The file list: 1. binutils-2.9.1.0.7.tar.gz. Source code. 2. binutils-2.9.1.0.6-2.9.1.0.7.diff.gz. Patch against the previous beta source code. 3. binutils-2.9.1.0.7-libc5.x86.tar.gz. Precompiled Linux/x86 binaries for libc 5. 4. binutils-2.9.1.0.7-glibc.x86.tar.gz. Precompiled Linux/x86 binaries for libc 6 (glibc 2.0.5c or above). The primary ftp sites for the compiler/C library: 1. ftp://tsx-11.mit.edu/pub/linux/packages/GCC 2. ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/GCC The beta directory is in private/tofu under the GCC directory. Most of my stuff can also be found at ftp://ftp.yggdrasil.com/private/hjl ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/devel/gcc To install the binary package, please follow the procedure very closely. Please backup/save all the files you are instructed to delete and you should do gzip -dc binutils-2.9.1.0.7-libc5.x86.tar.gz | tar tvvf - or gzip -dc binutils-2.9.1.0.7-glibc.x86.tar.gz | tar tvvf - to see what is in there. Please do back up before you remove things. To install for libc 5, PLEASE DO 1. su root 2. cd / 3. rm -f /usr/bin/encaps /usr/bin/nm 4. gzip -dc binutils-2.9.1.0.7-libc5.x86.tar.gz | tar xvvf - 5. ldconfig To install for libc 6 (glibc 2.0.5c or above), PLEASE DO 1. su root 2. cd / 3. rm -f /usr/bin/encaps /usr/bin/nm 4. gzip -dc binutils-2.9.1.0.7-glibc.x86.tar.gz | tar xvvf - 5. ldconfig Now you have the new gas/binutils under /usr/bin and /usr/ix86-linuxaout/bin. You have to use /usr/ix86-linuxaout/bin/as and /usr/ix86-linuxaout/bin/ld -m i386linux if you want to use a.out as and ld directly. I have changed the target names for Linux/x86 and Linux/x86 (a.out) to ix86-linux and ix86-linuxaout respectively. The precompiled binaries are installed under /usr/ix86-linux and /usr/ix86-linuxaout. You should make appropriate symbolic links if you have a different name for the Linux/x86 target, like i586-unknown-linux. If you have an old linux library in the a.out format and you cannot obtain the newer version in the ELF format for whatever reason, you can try "objcopy --remove-leading-char" on the a.out library and see if it can link with your code in ELF. For Sybase client libraries, I did # cd sybase/lib # for f in *.a do objcopy --remove-leading-char $f done It seems to compile/link fine with libc 5.4.2x. But I don't know if it really works or not. The resulting binaries should work if the libc ABI used by the old library is unchanged in the new libc. According to Bruce Milner : Just a quick note about your example using objcopy for sybase. The sybase a.out libraries "are" dependent on a changed feature of the libc ABI. The ctype macros changed to a byte order independent format (little endian). In order to use the sybase libraries, one needs to rename the the ctype table variables in the sybase library files and link in an old version of the libc's "C-ctype.o ctype-info.o" files. thain@sunquest.sunquest.com put a ELF'ized version of these libraries on ftp://mudshark.sunquest.com/pub/ctlib-linux-elf Thanks. H.J. Lu hjl@lucon.org 06/29/98 ------- End of Forwarded Message unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 30 06:23:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA23562 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:23:13 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23681 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:23:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:55378 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT2") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1291-3796>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 08:22:45 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970853-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 00:42:48 -0400 Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48]:6677 "EHLO irwell.zetnet.co.uk" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970803-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 00:40:32 -0400 Received: from [194.247.40.148] (man-116.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.40.148]) by irwell.zetnet.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA24812 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:19:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: ARMlinux mailing list Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:23:03 +0100 Message-ID: <485e27978bmh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: A5000 still being a pain in the arse Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Well, more on the A5k... It's still a 4meg one (no-one seems to want to offer me a cheap u/g :-( I have got for it (after catastropic failure of it's IDE disc, a replacement harddisc. I bought it a SCSI one (second hand, but working) it's 1Gb I have a 200Meg IDE in the same machine I also have an Acorn SCSI I card. I have SCSIdm (which is pants, but....) I am now stuck I can format the disc, which I have, once. 0 defects. I then tried to work out how to 'initialise' it. I can either dedicate (using SCSIDM) about 1/2 the disc to ADFS, and none to RISC ix, OR I can dediate some to RISC OS /and RISC ix either way, I'm screwed because !Partman wont create anything on the first of the two methods, and will only create RISC ix partitions using the second method. What do I do? suggestions like 'kick it' arent helpful... dont suggest them anyway, because there's a substantial chance I may do just that,... -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 30 14:38:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA24418 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:38:20 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23791 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:38:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:33360 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1565-3796>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:38:17 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970917-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 08:58:24 -0400 Received: from cptsg4.univ-mrs.fr ([139.124.7.104]:4655 "HELO cptsg4" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970947-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 08:57:53 -0400 Received: from cptsg4 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cptsg4 (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA05276; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:34:05 +0200 Message-ID: <3598E94C.41C6@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:34:04 +0200 From: Vincent PENNE Organization: Centre de Physique Theorique de Marseille X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; IRIX64 6.2 IP28) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philip Blundell CC: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: siglist ? References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------167E2781446B" X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------167E2781446B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Philip Blundell wrote: > > If I got everything right (ho, ho) this should be OK for both ELF and a.out. > Give it a go. > > p. > There is not problem only in siglist, but also in errlist.c and clone.S. Here is my patch which solve the three files in libc as an attachment. Vincent. --------------167E2781446B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="libc.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="libc.patch" Only in libc: confdefs.h Only in libc: config.cache Only in libc: config.log diff -ur libc.ori/configure libc/configure --- libc.ori/configure Fri May 15 18:23:35 1998 +++ libc/configure Sun Jun 21 08:34:09 1998 @@ -1455,7 +1455,7 @@ if test -n "$critic_missing"; then { echo "configure: error: *** Some critical program is missing or too old. -*** Check the INSTALL file for required versions." 1>&2; exit 1; } +*** Check the INSTALL file for required versions." 1>&2; } fi test -n "$aux_missing" && echo "configure: warning: Only in libc: configure~ diff -ur libc.ori/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/arm/clone.S libc/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/arm/clone.S --- libc.ori/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/arm/clone.S Sun Jun 21 08:37:19 1998 +++ libc/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/arm/clone.S Sun Jun 21 08:31:04 1998 @@ -79,36 +79,3 @@ PSEUDO_END (__clone) weak_alias (__clone, clone) -/* Copyright (C) 1996, 1997 Free Software Foundation, Inc. - This file is part of the GNU C Library. - - The GNU C Library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or - modify it under the terms of the GNU Library General Public License as - published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the - License, or (at your option) any later version. - - The GNU C Library is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, - but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of - MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU - Library General Public License for more details. - - You should have received a copy of the GNU Library General Public - License along with the GNU C Library; see the file COPYING.LIB. If not, - write to the Free Software Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, - Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA. */ - -/* clone() is even more special than fork() as it mucks with stacks - and invokes a function in the right context after its all over. */ - -#include -#define _ERRNO_H 1 -#include - -/* int clone(int (*fn)(void *arg), void *child_stack, int flags, void *arg); */ - - .text -ENTRY(__clone) - /* Somebody needs to write this. */ -PSEUDO_END (__clone) - -weak_alias (__clone, clone) Only in libc/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/arm: clone.S~ diff -ur libc.ori/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/errlist.c libc/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/errlist.c --- libc.ori/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/errlist.c Thu Apr 9 03:46:07 1998 +++ libc/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/errlist.c Sun Jun 21 08:32:30 1998 @@ -30,7 +30,7 @@ #include #if defined HAVE_ELF && defined PIC && defined DO_VERSIONING -asm (".type __old_sys_errlist,@object;.size __old_sys_errlist," +asm (".type __old_sys_errlist,%object;.size __old_sys_errlist," OLD_ERRLIST_SIZE_STR "*" PTR_SIZE_STR); extern const char *const *__old_sys_errlist; Only in libc/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux: errlist.c~ diff -ur libc.ori/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/siglist.c libc/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/siglist.c --- libc.ori/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/siglist.c Thu Feb 12 19:21:24 1998 +++ libc/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/siglist.c Sun Jun 21 08:32:51 1998 @@ -40,7 +40,7 @@ }; #if defined HAVE_ELF && defined PIC && defined DO_VERSIONING -asm (".type __old_sys_siglist,@object;.size __old_sys_siglist," +asm (".type __old_sys_siglist,%object;.size __old_sys_siglist," OLD_SIGLIST_SIZE_STR "*" PTR_SIZE_STR); asm (".data; .globl __old_sys_sigabbrev; __old_sys_sigabbrev:"); @@ -54,7 +54,7 @@ }; #if defined HAVE_ELF && defined PIC && defined DO_VERSIONING -asm (".type __old_sys_sigabbrev,@object;.size __old_sys_sigabbrev," +asm (".type __old_sys_sigabbrev,%object;.size __old_sys_sigabbrev," OLD_SIGLIST_SIZE_STR "*" PTR_SIZE_STR); extern const char *const *__old_sys_siglist; Only in libc/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux: siglist.c~ --------------167E2781446B-- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 30 14:40:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA24422 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:39:58 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23795 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:40:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:33360 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1710-3796>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:39:58 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970925-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:00:30 -0400 Received: from cptsg4.univ-mrs.fr ([139.124.7.104]:4674 "HELO cptsg4" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970907-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:00:17 -0400 Received: from cptsg4 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cptsg4 (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA05288; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:36:37 +0200 Message-ID: <3598E9E4.794B@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:36:36 +0200 From: Vincent PENNE Organization: Centre de Physique Theorique de Marseille X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; IRIX64 6.2 IP28) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philip Blundell CC: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Error report for ELF References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------15FB59E21CFB" X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------15FB59E21CFB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here is what I get when trying to build libc for ELF, when it is constructing the file libc.so. There is only part of it because it comes from some cut/paste on my xterm window (don't know how to redirect the stderr ...) Vincent. --------------15FB59E21CFB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="PROBLEM" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="PROBLEM" hr.c: first defined here sysdeps/../elf/ld.so: In function `__sbrk': /build/libc/misc/../sysdeps/generic/sbrk.c(.text+0xeac0): multiple definition of `__sbrk' sysdeps/../libc_pic.os(.text+0x7eed0):/build/libc/misc/../sysdeps/generic/sbrk.c: first defined here sysdeps/../elf/ld.so: In function `_IO_default_seek': /build/libc/libio/genops.c(.text+0xd4b4): multiple definition of `_IO_default_seek' sysdeps/../libc_pic.os(.text+0x385e8):/build/libc/libio/genops.c: first defined here sysdeps/../elf/ld.so: In function `__muldi3': /build/gcc-2.8.1/./libgcc2.c(.data+0x1e8): multiple definition of `_IO_list_all' sysdeps/../libc_pic.os(.data+0x11e8):/build/libc/locale/setlocale.c: first defined here sysdeps/../elf/ld.so: In function `__open64': /build/libc/io/../sysdeps/posix/open64.c(.text+0x105ac): multiple definition of `__open64' sysdeps/../libc_pic.os(.text+0x799e0):/build/libc/io/../sysdeps/posix/open64.c: first defined here sysdeps/../elf/ld.so: In function `_IO_un_link': /build/libc/libio/genops.c(.text+0xc514): multiple definition of `_IO_un_link' sysdeps/../libc_pic.os(.text+0x37648):/build/libc/libio/genops.c: first defined here sysdeps/../elf/ld.so: In function `_IO_default_pbackfail': /build/libc/libio/genops.c(.text+0xd3a4): multiple definition of `_IO_default_pbackfail' sysdeps/../libc_pic.os(.text+0x384d8):/build/libc/libio/genops.c: first defined here sysdeps/../elf/ld.so: In function `__strsep': /build/libc/string/../sysdeps/generic/strsep.c(.text+0xe770): multiple definition of `__geteuid' sysdeps/../libc_pic.os(.text+0x690d0):/build/libc/posix/execlp.c: first defined here sysdeps/../elf/ld.so: In function `_wordcopy_bwd_aligned': /build/libc/string/../sysdeps/generic/wordcopy.c(.text+0xe48c): multiple definition of `_wordcopy_bwd_aligned' sysdeps/../libc_pic.os(.text+0x40300):/build/libc/string/../sysdeps/generic/wordcopy.c: first defined here sysdeps/../elf/ld.so: In function `__muldi3': /build/gcc-2.8.1/./libgcc2.c(.data+0x150): multiple definition of `_IO_2_1_stderr_' sysdeps/../libc_pic.os(.data+0x1150):/build/libc/locale/setlocale.c: first defined here sysdeps/../elf/ld.so: In function `strpbrk': /build/libc/string/../sysdeps/generic/strpbrk.c(.text+0x10420): multiple definition of `strpbrk' sysdeps/../libc_pic.os(.text+0x3e768):/build/libc/string/../sysdeps/generic/strpbrk.c: first defined here sysdeps/../elf/ld.so: In function `_IO_switch_to_main_get_area': /build/libc/libio/genops.c(.text+0xc614): multiple definition of `_IO_switch_to_main_get_area' sysdeps/../libc_pic.os(.text+0x37748):/build/libc/libio/genops.c: first defined here sysdeps/../elf/ld.so: In function `raise': /build/libc/signal/../sysdeps/posix/raise.c(.text+0xee68): multiple definition of `raise' sysdeps/../libc_pic.os(.text+0x5d70):/build/libc/signal/../sysdeps/posix/raise.c: first defined here sysdeps/../elf/ld.so: In function `_IO_seekmark': /build/libc/libio/genops.c(.text+0xd308): multiple definition of `_IO_seekmark' sysdeps/../libc_pic.os(.text+0x3843c):/build/libc/libio/genops.c: first defined here sysdeps/../libc_pic.os: In function `__pread': /build/libc/posix/../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/pread.c(.text+0x78548): undefined reference to `__syscall_pread64' sysdeps/../libc_pic.os: In function `__pwrite': /build/libc/posix/../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/pwrite.c(.text+0x78678): undefined reference to `__syscall_pwrite64' sysdeps/../libc_pic.os: In function `__pread64': /build/libc/posix/../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/pread64.c(.text+0x787b4): undefined reference to `__syscall_pread64' sysdeps/../libc_pic.os: In function `__pwrite64': /build/libc/posix/../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/pwrite64.c(.text+0x7891c): undefined reference to `__syscall_pwrite64' sysdeps/../libc_pic.os: In function `sysctl': /build/libc/misc/../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/sysctl.c(.text+0x83c8c): undefined reference to `__syscall__sysctl' --------------15FB59E21CFB-- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 30 15:10:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA24450 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:10:17 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA23809 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:10:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:47886 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1665-9853>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:10:16 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970908-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:30:42 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:29442 "HELO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970892-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:30:34 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yr10v-0006np-00; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:04:05 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yr10u-0007IB-00; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:04:04 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Vincent PENNE cc: Philip Blundell , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Error report for ELF In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:36:36 +0200." <3598E9E4.794B@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:04:03 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >Here is what I get when trying to build libc for ELF, when it is >constructing the file libc.so. There is only part of it because it comes It looks like your libc.a is screwed up somehow. Can you try `make clean && make' and see if the error still happens? p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 30 17:02:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA24558 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:02:03 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23845 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:02:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:44890 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1387-14900>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 19:01:01 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971008-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:18:46 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:57468 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971001-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:16:46 -0400 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.162]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA15872 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:56:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf1) id AA27685; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:56:03 +0200 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:56:02 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: A5000 still being a pain in the arse In-Reply-To: <485e27978bmh120608@staffs.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Ian Molton wrote: > I then tried to work out how to 'initialise' it. I can either dedicate > (using SCSIDM) about 1/2 the disc to ADFS, and none to RISC ix, OR I can > dediate some to RISC OS /and RISC ix > > either way, I'm screwed because !Partman wont create anything on the first > of the two methods, and will only create RISC ix partitions using the > second method. What do I do? Installing on an 4MB a5k is a pain, I agree. You should format the SCSI HD with SCSIDM with both, RiscOS and RiscIX partitions. Linux reads the RiscIX partition table and can handle the Risc ix partition, I've tried it on my RiscPC where I had the same problem. The space the IX partition uses will be allocated under RiscOS, so you can't overwrite it. You will then have to format the RiscIX partition under Linux (with mke2fs, as usual) and thats all. The kernel will not report any Linux partitions, but don't mind that cause 'mount' doesn't bother. Maybe you have to change the bootloader to -bootkernel automatically, but RMK said that more partition table formats will be supported soon by !PartMan (and maybe !Linux). As I remember, you've got a RiscPC, too. Why don't you use that to install on the a5k??? You can copy the whole directory structure (except /dev) to the scsi disc. Make a dir called 'dev' in the root dir of it, copy MAKEDEV there an run it there. The last you have to do is to change the link fpem.o to fpem-2.87.o. ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 30 17:05:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA24569 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:05:08 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23850 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:05:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:42594 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1668-15808>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 19:05:19 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971005-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:25:09 -0400 Received: from cptsg4.univ-mrs.fr ([139.124.7.104]:5078 "HELO cptsg4" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971003-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:24:55 -0400 Received: from cptsg4 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cptsg4 (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id SAA07674; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:01:46 +0200 Message-ID: <35990BE9.FF6@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:01:45 +0200 From: Vincent PENNE Organization: Centre de Physique Theorique de Marseille X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; IRIX64 6.2 IP28) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philip Blundell CC: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Error report for ELF References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Philip Blundell wrote: > > >Here is what I get when trying to build libc for ELF, when it is > >constructing the file libc.so. There is only part of it because it comes > > It looks like your libc.a is screwed up somehow. Can you try `make clean && > make' and see if the error still happens? > > p. > I have tryed maybe ten times already, deleting everything, uncompressing the archive and patching again with your patches and my little patch. I don't think the problem comes from my patch since it concerns only few files and the the error are reported as coming from many files, however since I sent it to you, you might check it is correct ... Vincent. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 30 17:26:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA24613 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:26:34 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23864 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:26:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:53512 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1065-15808>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 19:24:53 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970796-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:43:35 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:30723 "HELO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971024-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:41:28 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yr2yz-000731-00; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:10:13 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yr2yy-0008Qy-00; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:10:12 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Vincent PENNE cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Error report for ELF In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:01:45 +0200." <35990BE9.FF6@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:10:11 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >files and the the error are reported as coming from many files, however >since I sent it to you, you might check it is correct ... It wouldn't be correct to actually put it into the sources, but it looks OK for your purposes. It's unlikely to be the cause of your problem I'd think. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 30 18:23:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA24710 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:23:12 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA23911 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:23:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14931 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1113-9853>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 20:22:50 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970800-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:42:39 -0400 Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48]:5235 "EHLO irwell.zetnet.co.uk" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970790-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:41:36 -0400 Received: from [194.247.40.202] (man-159.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.40.202]) by irwell.zetnet.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA13921 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:21:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: ARMlinux mailing list Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:24:12 +0100 Message-ID: <485e699d71mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Re: A5000 still being a pain in the arse In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I was asked to CC this to the list... On 30 Jun, Tom Palmer wrote: > On Tue 30 Jun, Ian Molton wrote: > > I then tried to work out how to 'initialise' it. I can either dedicate > > (using SCSIDM) about 1/2 the disc to ADFS, and none to RISC ix, OR I > > can dediate some to RISC OS /and RISC ix > > > > either way, I'm screwed because !Partman wont create anything on the > > first of the two methods, and will only create RISC ix partitions > > using the second method. What do I do? > If I understand this correctly you cannot create a linux partition on > your harddisc because of the fact that there is a RISCiX partition table > in the way. I solved this problem a while back by getting hold of the > RiscBSD bootloader archive available at: > ftp://ftp.ph.kcl.ac.uk/pub/acorn/RiscBSD/1.2-release/bootloader.arc > > Inside the misc directory within the archive there should be a BASIC > file called bb_riscbsd. You need to edit this file and change line 1150 > from: > buf%?&1FC = &42 : REM RiscBSD identifier > > to: > > buf%?&1FC = &0 : REM RiscBSD identifier > > You may also need to change line 570 from 'discop$="SCSI_DiscOp' to > 'discop$="SCSIFS_DiscOp"'. > > If you now run the program and press 's' when asked ADFS or SCSI. > Then type in the drive number of the disc that is going to hold the > linux partitions. It will now give some information about your filecore > size on the selected disc and it will ask for the 'RiscBSD Starting > Cyl'. You should enter the number displayed as the number of cylinders > in the 'Filecore partition size'. > The program should go away and clear the disc of the RISCiX partition > table thereby allowing you to use !PartMan to create your linux > partitions. > NB: This procedure worked for me around 8 months ago. Note that I > might have forgotten some things during that time (but I have just > done a dry-run , so it should all work as described :-) ). Therefore > you try this at your own risk and I am not to be held responsible for > any loss of data caused by these instructions. > > Regards, > > Tom > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Tom Palmer, Webmaster, The Netherhall School, Cambridge, United > Kingdom > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 30 21:20:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA24929 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:19:59 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA23992 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:20:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:16688 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1621-15808>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:19:49 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971123-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:36:22 -0400 Received: from mail.corelcomputer.com ([209.167.41.130]:3546 "EHLO cccpo.corelcomputer.com" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971124-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:21:08 -0400 Received: from cccmail.corelcomputer.com ([209.167.41.133]) by cccpo.corelcomputer.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with ESMTP id 217 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:01:27 -0400 Received: from corelcomputer.com ([10.1.110.8]) by cccmail.corelcomputer.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with ESMTP id 384; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:59:37 -0400 Message-ID: <35994421.6382B45F@corelcomputer.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:01:37 -0400 From: "Andrew E. Mileski" Organization: Corel Computer Corp. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Bradbury CC: Philip Blundell , ARM Linux Subject: Re: ARM and RPM References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > I was under the impression that there was only one set of ARM Linux > RPMs which ran on both ARM v3 and ARM v4 architecture CPUs. StrongARM is ARM4 architecture, and not compatible with ARM3 architecture processors. The most notable difference is half-word load/store. -- Andrew E. Mileski mailto:andrewm@CorelComputer.com Software Developer Corel Computer Corp. http://www.CorelComputer.com/ OSC-CCC Technical Liaison http://www.NetWinder.org/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 30 21:22:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA24934 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:22:25 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA23996 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:22:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:16688 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1368-15808>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:22:40 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971029-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:36:38 -0400 Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk ([194.131.104.13]:37340 "HELO golden.argonet.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971098-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:24:10 -0400 Received: from (193.130.246.47) [193.130.246.47] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yr6dE-0004Qg-00; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:04:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: jhayes@argonet.co.uk ("scijmoz") Reply-To: jhayes@argonet.co.uk To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Tue, 30 Jun 98 21:00:44 X-Mailer: VTi Internet Email reader 1.09 : aa Subject: Installing on A5k (4mb) Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Thankyou for advice but still trying to overcome memory problem:- Symlink 2: out of memory. Is it possible to install on 4mb ,any more suggestions most welcome. John. Sorry if This Is a repost, my mail got all screwed up. One reason I want to run Armlinux!! unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 30 22:24:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA25008 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:24:46 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA24006 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:25:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:63094 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1393-9853>; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 00:24:57 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971128-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:44:18 -0400 Received: from mail.corelcomputer.com ([209.167.41.130]:4301 "EHLO cccpo.corelcomputer.com" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971112-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:43:52 -0400 Received: from cccmail.corelcomputer.com ([209.167.41.133]) by cccpo.corelcomputer.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with ESMTP id 115 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:24:18 -0400 Received: from corelcomputer.com ([10.1.110.8]) by cccmail.corelcomputer.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with ESMTP id 484 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:22:29 -0400 Message-ID: <3599578D.7104DA16@corelcomputer.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:24:29 -0400 From: "Andrew E. Mileski" Organization: Corel Computer Corp. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ARM and RPM References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > >StrongARM is ARM4 architecture, and not compatible with > >ARM3 architecture processors. The most notable difference > >is half-word load/store. > > However, you can compile code for v3 and it will then run on v4. This seems > the sensible way to proceed except in a very few cases. Yes, yes, yes! This is the whole point of what I'm hoping to get some agreement on. So can we quit the arguing and come to a "standard" now, rather than later (=headaches)? I think a "reasonable" (ie. not perfect) solution is uname -m to report armN* where N is the architecture, and anything else is optional (like "t" for thumb or whatever). I also think it is "reasonable" (ie. not perfect) to use armN*-*-linux for the ELF compiler and armN*-*-linuxaout for the a.out compiler. Pros: armN* strings have the same easily matchable prefixes Using "linux" and "linuxaout" is also done on the x86. Cons: others may not agree :-) Whatever is agreed upon, it really needs to be done asap before the ARM-aware applications increase in number. -- Andrew E. Mileski mailto:andrewm@CorelComputer.com Software Developer Corel Computer Corp. http://www.CorelComputer.com/ OSC-CCC Technical Liaison http://www.NetWinder.org/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 30 22:33:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA25030 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:33:50 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA24014 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:34:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:63094 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1739-9853>; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 00:33:53 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971136-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:53:07 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1545 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971142-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:52:29 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup3.cymru.net [163.164.160.67]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA23906; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:32:34 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA10976; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:31:48 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id WAA14971; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:32:42 +0100 Message-Id: <199806302132.WAA14971@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: ARM and RPM To: andrewm@corelcomputer.com (Andrew E. Mileski) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:32:41 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <3599578D.7104DA16@corelcomputer.com> from "Andrew E. Mileski" at Jun 30, 98 05:24:29 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Andrew E. Mileski writes: > I think a "reasonable" (ie. not perfect) solution is > uname -m to report armN* where N is the architecture, and > anything else is optional (like "t" for thumb or whatever). Did you get my mail on uname -m? I don't think that this is a good idea. The official name of the ARM3 is ARM3, and it could be confusing to use ARM3 to mean ARM Architecture version 3. Likewise, there is the ARM2, ARM6, ARM7 etc, and I think that we'd be storing up trouble. A better solution may be to use ARMv3 and ARMv4, since there can be no mistaking these. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 30 23:40:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA25093 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:40:04 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA24044 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:40:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:25456 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1112-15808>; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 01:39:55 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971165-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:54:50 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:2454 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971157-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:54:26 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yr8Ac-0002Bi-00; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:42:34 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: "Andrew E. Mileski" cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ARM and RPM In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:24:29 EDT." <3599578D.7104DA16@corelcomputer.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:42:34 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >I think a "reasonable" (ie. not perfect) solution is >uname -m to report armN* where N is the architecture, and >anything else is optional (like "t" for thumb or whatever). That sounds perfectly reasonable to me. >I also think it is "reasonable" (ie. not perfect) to use >armN*-*-linux for the ELF compiler and armN*-*-linuxaout for >the a.out compiler. That also, though the N should be optional. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 30 23:40:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA25097 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:40:07 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA24047 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:40:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:25456 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1406-3796>; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 01:40:17 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971157-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:55:11 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:2467 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971163-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:54:46 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yr8rt-0002Ci-00; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:27:17 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin cc: andrewm@corelcomputer.com (Andrew E. Mileski), linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ARM and RPM In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:32:41 BST." <199806302132.WAA14971@raistlin.armlinux.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:27:17 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >I don't think that this is a good idea. The official name of the >ARM3 is ARM3, and it could be confusing to use ARM3 to mean ARM >Architecture version 3. Likewise, there is the ARM2, ARM6, ARM7 etc, >and I think that we'd be storing up trouble. This seems like a red herring. Can you think of any situation where it would cause trouble? As far as I can see there is no need to be able to refer to specific CPUs in the machine-name string. Any program that has sufficiently detailed knowledge of the ARM architecture that it needs to know which CPU is in use can easily enough include a specific autoconf check for that. Also, if it _did_ turn out that people needed to be able to do this, it wouldn't be the end of the world to extend the machine name string at some future date, either by adding an extra component or extending the first one to, say, `arm4_sa110'. I imagine we could devise some way to do this without terminally upsetting RPM. (On a somewhat unrelated topic, where did the `armo' and `armv' terminology spring from? I've wondered that on and off for years.) p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jul 1 03:33:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA25322 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 03:33:25 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA24142 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 03:33:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:9007 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1585-15808>; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 05:33:32 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971182-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:50:41 -0400 Received: from hydra.robin.de ([193.174.7.1]:30485 "EHLO hydra.RoBIN.de" ident: "uucp") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971181-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:50:06 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by hydra.RoBIN.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) with UUCP id EAA07551 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 04:31:30 +0200 From: Michael_Kosse@f.maus.de (Michael Kosse) Received: by f.maus.de from f.maus.de via mausnet with maustausch; for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Wed 1 Jul 1998 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: 2.0.33 for A5K Message-ID: <199806300707.p1840@f.maus.de> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 07:07:00 +0200 Organization: MAUS Frankfurt (+49-69-96206127) X-Gateway: F gb1.1h 191297.0826 X-Gateway-Administrator: postmaster@f.maus.de Lines: 29 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I've compiled the 2.0.33 kernel for the A5K based on the latest patch ( patch-arm-2.0.33-19980426.gz ). The floppy driver complained that it could not grab DMA6. I've checked the code and found that FLOPPY_DMA in .../floppy.c is defined to be 6 while MAX_DMA_CHANNELS in .../arch-a5k/dma.h is defined to be 2. Changed FLOPPY_DMA to 0 to fix this. BTW, I've got the IOMEGA PARALLEL PORT ZIP DRIVE working with the A5K under ARM Linux 2.0.33 ( and 1.3.35 ) with ppa 0.26 and I/O base address set to 0x278 and nybble mode enabled. --- scsi0 : AcornSCSI at port 80000000 irq 32 v2.0.4 SYNC TAG NOWRITE (0xFE) scsi1 : PPA driver version 0.26 using 4-bit mode on port 0x278. scsi : 2 hosts. scsi0.0: Using synchronous transfer, offset 12, 128 ns Vendor: SAMSUNG Model: WN32162U Rev: 0100 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 TAG Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Vendor: IOMEGA Model: ZIP 100 Rev: D.13 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi removable disk sdb at scsi1, channel 0, id 6, lun 0 scsi : detected 2 SCSI disks total. SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 4236661 [2068 MB] [2.1 GB] SCSI device sdb: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 196608 [96 MB] [0.1 GB] sdb: Write Protect is off --- miko unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Jul 1 04:05:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA25433 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 04:04:59 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA24159 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 04:05:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:65084 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1413-15808>; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:05:07 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971187-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:23:16 -0400 Received: from mail.corelcomputer.com ([209.167.41.130]:2443 "EHLO cccpo.corelcomputer.com" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971185-3822>; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:22:51 -0400 Received: from cccmail.corelcomputer.com ([209.167.41.133]) by cccpo.corelcomputer.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with ESMTP id 188 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:04:49 -0400 Received: from corelcomputer.com ([10.1.110.8]) by cccmail.corelcomputer.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with ESMTP id 519 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:02:59 -0400 Message-ID: <3599A75D.DEA5A6C5@corelcomputer.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:05:01 -0400 From: "Andrew E. Mileski" Organization: Corel Computer Corp. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ARM and RPM References: <199806302132.WAA14971@raistlin.armlinux.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > Did you get my mail on uname -m? Err...probably, but as I got >1500 messages in my box this morning, there's a chance I overlooked it. Sorry. > A better solution may be to use ARMv3 and ARMv4, since there can be > no mistaking these. I agree. Shall we etch this one in stone then? -- Andrew E. Mileski mailto:andrewm@CorelComputer.com Software Developer Corel Computer Corp. http://www.CorelComputer.com/ OSC-CCC Technical Liaison http://www.NetWinder.org/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu