From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri May 1 09:49:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: from orava.funet.fi (orava.funet.fi [128.214.248.46]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA15103 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 09:49:56 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:9830 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by orava.funet.fi with ESMTP id <392114-3135>; Fri, 1 May 1998 11:50:29 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971126-8838>; Fri, 1 May 1998 04:22:10 -0400 Received: from pyramid.businessmonitor.co.uk ([194.205.10.2]:3487 "EHLO pyramid.businessmonitor.co.uk" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971137-8838>; Fri, 1 May 1998 04:21:57 -0400 Received: from illuminated.co.uk by pyramid.businessmonitor.co.uk (8.8.7/businessmonitor1.3) id JAA15582; Fri, 1 May 1998 09:44:33 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <35498D8C.A7C25110@illuminated.co.uk> Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 09:53:32 +0100 From: Sam Kington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.30 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ARM Linux mailing list Subject: Installing ARM Linux on an IDE/PowerTec SCSI system Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, I'm going to be installing ARM Linux on my StrongARM Risc PC this weekend, and I was wondering what the best partition arrangement would be. I currently have a 1.6Gb ADFS IDE hard disc, with about 900Mb of PC Partition, 200Mb of free space, with the rest taken up by Risc OS stuff. I also have a 6Gb SCSI hard disc hooked up to a PowerTec II card, which is currently sitting around doing nothing much. Given that the PC Card doesn't run any faster off the SCSI disc, in a PC-formatted partition, that off a PC partition file on the IDE disc, I see no reason not to keep it on the IDE disc. The Acorn stuff can go either way. Which leaves me with Linux. First question: can I actually install Linux straight on to the SCSI disc, or do I need to mess with the ADFS partition first? Can ARM Linux handle PowerTec partitions once it's up and running on the ADFS partition? And if so, what's the bare minimum I need on the ADFS partition? Oh, BTW, PartMan 0.13 alpha 5 seems to work much better. Russell, I'll get a debug dump off to you tonight; let me know if you want any more test data. Sam -- Home page: http://www.illuminated.co.uk/ INWO Homebrew has moved: http://www.illuminated.co.uk/inwo/ Not my employer's opinion, no snappy quote unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri May 1 17:49:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: from orava.funet.fi (orava.funet.fi [128.214.248.46]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA16743 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 17:49:34 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:22588 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by orava.funet.fi with ESMTP id <392616-3135>; Fri, 1 May 1998 19:48:14 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971185-8838>; Fri, 1 May 1998 12:12:29 -0400 Received: from mail.denic.net ([195.35.6.2]:1242 "EHLO mail.all.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971851-8838>; Fri, 1 May 1998 12:07:21 -0400 Received: by mail.all.de (Smail3.2) from bolzen.denic.net (194.94.235.1) with esmtp id ; Fri, 1 May 1998 18:36:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by bolzen.denic.net (Smail3.2) from yoda with uucp id ; Fri, 1 May 1998 18:36:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by yoda.in-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1 #0) id m0yVKhK-000000C; Fri, 1 May 98 16:38 GMT Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 18:23:45 +0200 From: Stefan Voss To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: PowerTec initialization problem Message-ID: <2ed7d3f48%voss@yoda.in-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <199804302229.XAA01574@raistlin.armlinux.org> Organization: Individual Network (IN), Berlin, Germany X-Mailer: Messenger v1.34c for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60d X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO In message <199804302229.XAA01574@raistlin.armlinux.org>, Russell King wrote: > Stefan Voss writes: > > The boot messages say it's a 53C90-type > > Ok, it's not a new problem then, and it's one that I've seen when trying > to > turn the terminators on... Try inserting the module using: > > insmod powertec_scsi term=0 > > to see if that helps. If it does, then I think I know where the problem > lies. I re-compiled the kernel with powertec support as a module. insmod'ing with term=0 did the trick. Now the initialisation of the PowerTec card is successful. Here's the output of insmod: scsi0.H: fas216: bus reset detected scsi0 : PowerTec SCSI at port 800D1000 irq 33 dma 3 v0.0.2 scsi NCR53C9x terminators off scsi : 1 host. scsi0.2: using synchronous transfer, offset 7, 176 ns Vendor: SONY Model: CD-ROM CDU-76S Rev: 1.1c Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 2, lun 0 Hope this help to identify the problem. > | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- Regards, Stefan -- Stefan Voss (voss@yoda.in-berlin.de) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 4 06:50:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: from orava.funet.fi (orava.funet.fi [128.214.248.46]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA28521 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 06:50:00 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:9364 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by orava.funet.fi with ESMTP id <394876-25452>; Mon, 4 May 1998 01:22:16 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970949-12281>; Sun, 3 May 1998 17:19:09 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:45039 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970912-12281>; Sun, 3 May 1998 17:18:53 -0400 Received: from (marketto.demon.co.uk) [194.222.32.5] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yW6le-00023O-00; Sun, 3 May 1998 22:57:58 +0100 Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 22:15:42 +0100 From: Theo Markettos To: pb@nexus.co.uk Subject: Re: memc1 data Message-ID: <8953a04048%arm-linux@marketto.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Reply-To: theomarkettos@letterbox.com X-Mailer: Messenger v1.34c for RISC OS Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60g X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO In message you wrote: > Hi, > > An exhaustive search of my office has failed to turn up a MEMC datasheet, > which kind of suggests we don't have one. Would anybody be prepared to > send me the details of the control register? Possibly that's because I don't think there was one - it was published in the ARM Family Data Manual. (fx: digs manual out from stack of paper) VL86C110 control register: bits 25-20: %11011X bits 19-17: %111 bits 16-14: %XXX bit 13: %0 - test mode: 0 - disabled 1 - not meaningful for operation bit 12: operating system mode 0 - OS Mode off 1 - OS Mode on bit 11: Sound DMA control 0 - disable 1 - enable bit 10: Video/Cursor DMA control 0 - disable 1 - enable bits 9-8 : DRAM refresh control 00 - none 01 - during video flyback only 10 - none 11 - continuous bits 7-6 : High ROM access time 00 - 450ns (default) 01 - 325ns 10 - 200ns 11 - Not meaningful bits 5-4 : Low ROM access time 00 - 450ns (default) 01 - 325ns 10 - 200ns 11 - Not meaningful bits 3-2 : Page size 00 - 4 Kbytes 01 - 8 Kbytes 10 - 16 Kbytes 11 - 32 Kbytes bits 1-0 : %XX Let me know if you'd like any more info. -- Theo Markettos Home: theomarkettos@letterbox.com Liphook Work: marketto@prl.research.philips.com Hampshire UK Web site, including Acorn backup software http://www.marketto.demon.co.uk/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 4 11:52:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: from orava.funet.fi (orava.funet.fi [128.214.248.46]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA29333 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 11:52:33 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:4390 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by orava.funet.fi with ESMTP id <393126-25452>; Mon, 4 May 1998 00:37:41 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <972363-12281>; Sun, 3 May 1998 06:22:37 -0400 Received: from ubik.virtual-pc.com ([195.11.18.5]:4173 "EHLO ubik.virtual-pc.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <972361-12281>; Sun, 3 May 1998 06:22:20 -0400 Received: (from www@localhost) by ubik.virtual-pc.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA15993; Sun, 3 May 1998 11:52:51 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 11:52:51 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199805031052.LAA15993@ubik.virtual-pc.com> To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu From: chris.sawer@usa.net (Chris Sawer) Subject: New linux user: a few easy (?) problems X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I've just started playing with ArmLinux, and have installed it from last year's Clan CD-Rom, with a little help from Phil Norman's installation guide. I have a couple of (hopefully simple) problems that I hope you lot will be able to help me with. The first problem I have is trying to compile anything. Everything seems to need a directory "/usr/include/linux" with a load of .h files in. My friend's 486 Linux box has this directory, but he installed using Slackware. Where can I get the ArmLinux versions of these files from - are they in the huge kernel source? My other problem is when using X (with fvwm), when dialogue boxes come up, for example when creating a directory using xfm, I don't seem to be able to type anything. Clicking in the text box doesn't help, but keys do work in X, for example in an xterm window, or using q to quit daliclock. This apparent bug is incredibly annoying. Has anyone else had this problem, and is there a fix? I apologize if these questions have already been asked, but I couldn't find the answers to them in any FAQs. Thanks in advance for any help. Chris PS. Am I still a member of this list? I haven't got any messages from it for several weeks. -- Chris Sawer - Worthing, Sussex, England chris.sawer@usa.net PGP public key available on request unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 4 18:31:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: from orava.funet.fi (orava.funet.fi [128.214.248.46]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA30603 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 18:30:56 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:30769 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by orava.funet.fi with ESMTP id <390637-17442>; Mon, 4 May 1998 16:32:43 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971010-12281>; Sun, 3 May 1998 18:07:23 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1221 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971027-12281>; Sun, 3 May 1998 18:05:54 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yW7S0-0001DG-00; Sun, 3 May 1998 23:41:40 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: theomarkettos@letterbox.com cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Installing on an 4 MB A5000 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 03 May 1998 22:46:10 BST." <19980503.224610.33@marketto.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 23:41:40 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >It might be worth adding this to the IDE driver, as it'll make those WDC >drives work, but unlikely to break any others. FWIW, I have a Caviar 2540 in my A5000 and it works fine with Linux. RISC OS won't talk to it but I'm not too bothered about that. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 4 21:07:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: from orava.funet.fi (orava.funet.fi [128.214.248.46]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA31426 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 21:07:46 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:6290 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by orava.funet.fi with ESMTP id <391201-20892>; Mon, 4 May 1998 16:57:50 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971715-12281>; Sun, 3 May 1998 23:19:48 -0400 Received: from entoo.connect.com.au ([192.189.54.8]:57671 "EHLO entoo.connect.com.au" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971713-12281>; Sun, 3 May 1998 23:19:24 -0400 Received: from server (brat5200-25.netconnect.com.au [203.7.198.65]) by entoo.connect.com.au with SMTP id NAA10502 (8.8.6/IDA-1.7 for ); Mon, 4 May 1998 13:59:14 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <354D43BB.108D089@cvs.com.au> Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 14:27:39 +1000 From: Charles Esson Organization: Colour Vision Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01GoldC-Caldera (X11; I; Linux 2.0.29 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Arm linux and a product Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Found this while trying to find out if word perfect supported SGML, might be of interest to some. http://www.corelcomputer.com/products/vnc/index.htm unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 5 00:35:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: from orava.funet.fi (orava.funet.fi [128.214.248.46]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA32355 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 00:35:28 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:6290 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by orava.funet.fi with ESMTP id <392133-21917>; Mon, 4 May 1998 17:31:15 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <972629-12281>; Mon, 4 May 1998 08:19:07 -0400 Received: from zaz.kom.auc.dk ([130.225.51.10]:51707 "HELO zaz.kom.auc.dk" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <972703-12281>; Mon, 4 May 1998 08:02:53 -0400 Received: from trabant.kom.auc.dk [130.225.51.16] (root) by zaz.kom.auc.dk with smtp (Exim 1.80 #1) id 0yWKag-0004Q3-00; Mon, 4 May 1998 14:43:30 +0200 Received: from janm.stud.kom.auc.dk [10.0.171.85] by trabant.kom.auc.dk with smtp (Exim 1.80 #1) id 0yWKaf-00024x-00; Mon, 4 May 1998 14:43:29 +0200 Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 14:43:38 +0200 From: Jan Magnussen Subject: Re: Probs compiling kernel 2.0.33 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Quercus. Denmark. X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.26] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Sun 03 May, Jan Magnussen wrote: > Hello > > I just reinstalled Linux, after accidentally deleting it a few months back, > but when I try to compile the newest (260498) 2.0.33 kernel, I get the > following error: > > gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -m6 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-fra > me-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe -c -o proc-sa110.o ..tmp.s > proc-sa110.S: Assembler messages: > proc-sa110.S:174: Error: Internal_relocation (type 159) not fixed up (OFFSET_IMM) > proc-sa110.S:177: Error: Internal_relocation (type 159) not fixed up (OFFSET_IMM) > proc-sa110.S:178: Error: Internal_relocation (type 159) not fixed up (OFFSET_IMM) > make[2]: *** [proc-sa110.o] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/arm/mm' > make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/arm/mm' > make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2 > > What could be wrong? Hmmm. I found the error. arch/arm/mm/constants.h were missing, so I made a symbolic link from arch/arm/lib/constants.h to mm. That did the trick. Regards, Jan Magnussen http://www.kom.auc.dk/~janm Fidonet : 2:234/181.8 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 5 00:55:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: from orava.funet.fi (orava.funet.fi [128.214.248.46]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA32478 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 00:55:14 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:19548 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by orava.funet.fi with ESMTP id <392863-21917>; Mon, 4 May 1998 17:50:30 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971792-12281>; Mon, 4 May 1998 09:53:35 -0400 Received: from zaz.kom.auc.dk ([130.225.51.10]:52876 "HELO zaz.kom.auc.dk" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970861-12281>; Mon, 4 May 1998 08:20:21 -0400 Received: from trabant.kom.auc.dk [130.225.51.16] (root) by zaz.kom.auc.dk with smtp (Exim 1.80 #1) id 0yWKrj-0004iZ-00; Mon, 4 May 1998 15:01:07 +0200 Received: from janm.stud.kom.auc.dk [10.0.171.85] by trabant.kom.auc.dk with smtp (Exim 1.80 #1) id 0yWKri-0002Jb-00; Mon, 4 May 1998 15:01:06 +0200 Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 15:01:13 +0200 From: Jan Magnussen Subject: Probs with EtherLan 500 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Quercus. Denmark. X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.26] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi I cannot get my I3 EtherLan 500 to work. When I start the kernel, I get the following messages: eth0: etherh 500 found at 80000000, IRQ32, ether address 00:c0:32:00:1d:63 10Base2 --- eth0: Tx timed out, excess collisions. TSR=0x9c, ISR=0x8, t=551. This is wrong, as I am using a 10BaseT connection to out network. Under RO, the autodetection of 10BaseT works fine. What sould I do to make it work? Regards, Jan Magnussen http://www.kom.auc.dk/~janm Fidonet : 2:234/181.8 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 5 03:35:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: from orava.funet.fi (orava.funet.fi [128.214.248.46]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA00751 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 03:35:41 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:27001 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by orava.funet.fi with ESMTP id <393544-21917>; Mon, 4 May 1998 22:21:26 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970797-12281>; Mon, 4 May 1998 10:39:16 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1958 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971055-12281>; Mon, 4 May 1998 10:14:10 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id PAA32149 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 15:55:18 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA13513 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 15:55:11 +0100 From: Russell King Received: (from rmk@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id PAA00413 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Mon, 4 May 1998 15:52:37 +0100 Message-Id: <199805041452.PAA00413@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: PartMan for testing... To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 15:52:36 +0100 (BST) X-Location: london.england.earth.mulky-way.universe Reply-To: rmk@arm.uk.linux.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi All, Could people please test out the latest alpha PartMan, located at: ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/testing/partman-1.13-alpha6-development.arc *** Please note: PartMan generally will not alter any structures on disk. Powertec partitioning is capable of writing back to disk. Since this is ALPHA software, I strongly recommend that you back up your drives before using - it may corrupt the partition tables/wrongly identify your drive. Please send all bug reports to me (rmk@arm.uk.linux.org), along with a log file. This can be found in the Pipe filing system. To access it, use: Filer_Opendir Pipe:$ You can then use the filer to copy the file to your hard drive. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King rmk@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/home.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 5 08:05:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: from orava.funet.fi (orava.funet.fi [128.214.248.46]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA01519 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 08:05:27 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:7843 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by orava.funet.fi with ESMTP id <391990-21917>; Tue, 5 May 1998 01:40:21 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970814-12281>; Mon, 4 May 1998 17:31:44 -0400 Received: from zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk ([132.146.5.1]:1182 "HELO zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971010-12281>; Mon, 4 May 1998 16:40:51 -0400 Received: from vax-b (actually 132.146.127.190) by zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 4 May 1998 22:20:06 +0100 Message-ID: <354E308C.546A@lspace.org> Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 22:18:04 +0100 From: Andy Fawcett Organization: Being Lazy At Home! X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 i86pc) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Installing on an 4 MB A5000 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Philip Blundell wrote: > > >It might be worth adding this to the IDE driver, as it'll make those > >WDC drives work, but unlikely to break any others. > > FWIW, I have a Caviar 2540 in my A5000 and it works fine with Linux. > RISC OS won't talk to it but I'm not too bothered about that. I've got an A5000 with a Caviar IGig drive in (21000?) and it's never been a problem at all. It works with the ICS Wizzo ROM, and nothing has fazed it in nearly three years... Go on, tell me I've been lucky... -- Andy Fawcett I'm at home, not at work, so if it's here, it's a personal opinion. Okay? New to afp? Mail 'newbie@lspace.org' for more information... unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 5 18:10:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: from listserv.funet.fi (listserv.funet.fi [128.214.248.27]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA04207 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 18:09:53 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:42325 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <4417-28062>; Tue, 5 May 1998 20:10:06 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971052-24203>; Tue, 5 May 1998 12:06:07 -0400 Received: from post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.39]:56121 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971365-24203>; Tue, 5 May 1998 12:02:17 -0400 Received: from defaid.demon.co.uk ([158.152.96.167]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa1011880; 5 May 98 16:37 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by defaid.demon.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA04774 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 17:37:48 +0100 Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 17:37:47 +0100 (BST) From: Melanie Rhianna Lewis To: Arm Linux mailing list Subject: Linux boot problem Message-ID: Organization: None what so ever! X-Mailer: Pine 3.95 X-Host: Melanie's linux box - Mournblade MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, I've finally got a larger ADFS drive and found a bit of time to install ArmLinux on my RPC600. I installed the RPMS off of the clan CD using partly Phil Normans installer file and my knowledge of linux together with my i686 linux box. So I have a 410Mb IDE drive with a) 99 mb ADFS partition b) 32 mb linux swap partition (/dev/hda3) c) 279 mb linux native partition (/dev/hda4) All are formatted up and all the RPMS have been installed. As predicted it bombed out at the kernel stage with can't find kernel. I sync ed the disk as suggested and reset. Using !LinConfig I have set the root to *ADFS::4.1 but it don't work. !Linux fails with "invalid bmap magicin first sector of partition". I have a nicely installed system which I can't get to run. Help Melanie -- ===================================================================== Melanie Rhianna Lewis melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk "An it hurt none, do what thou will" http://www.defaid.demon.co.uk ===================================================================== unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 5 18:34:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: from listserv.funet.fi (listserv.funet.fi [128.214.248.27]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA04263 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 18:34:45 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:53018 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <4416-23340>; Tue, 5 May 1998 20:34:17 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971107-24203>; Tue, 5 May 1998 12:43:13 -0400 Received: from mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE ([137.226.144.9]:4487 "EHLO mail.rwth-aachen.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971144-24203>; Tue, 5 May 1998 12:34:32 -0400 Received: from tm913045 (s2m149.dialup.RWTH-Aachen.DE) by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V5.1-10 #23726) with SMTP id <01IWOOO81GUY000290@mail.rwth-aachen.de> for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Tue, 5 May 1998 19:16:17 +0200 Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 18:15:04 +0100 From: Thomas Marx Subject: Is there a driver for PowerTec I? To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-id: <62f7914148%thomas.marx@tm913045.dialup.rwth-aachen.de> Organization: Home MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Messenger v1.34a for RISC OS Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60h X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-Envid: 01IWOOOB6LDO000290@mail.rwth-aachen.de Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi ! I am really glad that there is some PowerTec driver. Does it run with a PowerTec I card ? Is there a driver for it? (or ) How much work is it to change the existing driver to run a PowerTec I ? C U, Tom - No RISC, no FUN - - - - - - - - - - - - No PAIN, no GAIN. ------------------------------------------------------------------ email : thomas.marx@post.rwth-aachen.de Snail : Thomas Marx, Charlottenstr. 11, 52070 Aachen, Germany Voice : +49 241 542886 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 5 19:21:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: from listserv.funet.fi (listserv.funet.fi [128.214.248.27]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA04380 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 19:21:26 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:31840 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <4332-22903>; Tue, 5 May 1998 21:21:33 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971071-24203>; Tue, 5 May 1998 13:13:05 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:1113 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971069-24203>; Tue, 5 May 1998 12:52:07 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id SAA04246; Tue, 5 May 1998 18:33:50 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805051733.SAA04246@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Linux boot problem To: melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk (Melanie Rhianna Lewis) Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 18:33:49 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Melanie Rhianna Lewis" at May 5, 98 05:37:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Melanie Rhianna Lewis > So I have a 410Mb IDE drive with > > a) 99 mb ADFS partition > b) 32 mb linux swap partition (/dev/hda3) > c) 279 mb linux native partition (/dev/hda4) > > As predicted it bombed out at the kernel stage with can't find kernel. I > sync ed the disk as suggested and reset. Using !LinConfig I have set the > root to *ADFS::4.1 but it don't work. !Linux fails with "invalid bmap > magicin first sector of partition". Ah, yes. Mmm. This is one of those bugs I meant to report to Russell and forgot. Sorry. With the bootloader that you have, it only works if hda3 is the root partition, or some such. I tried putting my swap as hda3, but it didn't work. Apologies all round. I suspect the new test bootloader may cope with it better; try the one available from the web page - beware that you now need to give it the partition number, ie ADFS:4.4 in your case. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From linux@arm.uk.linux.org Tue May 5 20:52:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA04888 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 20:52:18 +0100 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup2.cymru.net [163.164.160.66]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA09341; Tue, 5 May 1998 21:22:36 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA14651; Tue, 5 May 1998 20:52:38 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00657; Tue, 5 May 1998 20:52:27 +0100 Message-Id: <199805051952.UAA00657@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Linux boot problem To: willy@odie.barnet.ac.uk (Matthew Wilcox) Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 20:52:27 +0100 (BST) Cc: melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199805051733.SAA04246@odie.barnet.ac.uk> from "Matthew Wilcox" at May 5, 98 06:33:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Matthew Wilcox writes: > > As predicted it bombed out at the kernel stage with can't find kernel. I > > sync ed the disk as suggested and reset. Using !LinConfig I have set the > > root to *ADFS::4.1 but it don't work. !Linux fails with "invalid bmap > > magicin first sector of partition". > > Ah, yes. Mmm. This is one of those bugs I meant to report to Russell and > forgot. Sorry. With the bootloader that you have, it only works if hda3 > is the root partition, or some such. I tried putting my swap as hda3, but > it didn't work. Apologies all round. > > I suspect the new test bootloader may cope with it better; try the one > available from the web page - beware that you now need to give it the > partition number, ie ADFS:4.4 in your case. Indeed, and yes, it is the Partition number now, and not the old number system (what did I call it anyway)? ;) _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | From linux@arm.uk.linux.org Tue May 5 20:52:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA04888 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 20:52:18 +0100 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup2.cymru.net [163.164.160.66]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA09341; Tue, 5 May 1998 21:22:36 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA14651; Tue, 5 May 1998 20:52:38 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00657; Tue, 5 May 1998 20:52:27 +0100 Message-Id: <199805051952.UAA00657@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Linux boot problem To: willy@odie.barnet.ac.uk (Matthew Wilcox) Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 20:52:27 +0100 (BST) Cc: melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199805051733.SAA04246@odie.barnet.ac.uk> from "Matthew Wilcox" at May 5, 98 06:33:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Matthew Wilcox writes: > > As predicted it bombed out at the kernel stage with can't find kernel. I > > sync ed the disk as suggested and reset. Using !LinConfig I have set the > > root to *ADFS::4.1 but it don't work. !Linux fails with "invalid bmap > > magicin first sector of partition". > > Ah, yes. Mmm. This is one of those bugs I meant to report to Russell and > forgot. Sorry. With the bootloader that you have, it only works if hda3 > is the root partition, or some such. I tried putting my swap as hda3, but > it didn't work. Apologies all round. > > I suspect the new test bootloader may cope with it better; try the one > available from the web page - beware that you now need to give it the > partition number, ie ADFS:4.4 in your case. Indeed, and yes, it is the Partition number now, and not the old number system (what did I call it anyway)? ;) _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 5 21:53:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: from listserv.funet.fi (listserv.funet.fi [128.214.248.27]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA05043 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 21:53:23 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:37736 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <4202-28836>; Tue, 5 May 1998 23:52:51 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971244-24203>; Tue, 5 May 1998 15:13:13 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1609 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971434-24203>; Tue, 5 May 1998 15:09:37 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup2.cymru.net [163.164.160.66]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA09323; Tue, 5 May 1998 21:21:21 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA14646; Tue, 5 May 1998 20:51:22 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00648; Tue, 5 May 1998 20:51:12 +0100 Message-Id: <199805051951.UAA00648@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Is there a driver for PowerTec I? To: thomas.marx@post.rwth-aachen.de (Thomas Marx) Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 20:51:11 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <62f7914148%thomas.marx@tm913045.dialup.rwth-aachen.de> from "Thomas Marx" at May 5, 98 06:15:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Thomas Marx writes: > I am really glad that there is some PowerTec driver. > Does it run with a PowerTec I card ? > Is there a driver for it? > (or ) How much work is it to change the existing driver to run a > PowerTec I ? That really depends on what the PowerTec I card is. Come to think of it, I'm not absolutely sure that the card I have is a PTec II. Anyone know what the obvious differences are? _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 5 22:51:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: from listserv.funet.fi (listserv.funet.fi [128.214.248.27]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA05182 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 22:51:13 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:17968 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <4290-6085>; Wed, 6 May 1998 00:50:44 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971094-24203>; Tue, 5 May 1998 15:17:26 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1341 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971400-24203>; Tue, 5 May 1998 15:02:44 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup2.cymru.net [163.164.160.66]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA09260; Tue, 5 May 1998 21:15:53 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA14611; Tue, 5 May 1998 20:45:54 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00624; Tue, 5 May 1998 20:45:44 +0100 Message-Id: <199805051945.UAA00624@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Installing on an 4 MB A5000 To: tap@lspace.org (Andy Fawcett) Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 20:45:43 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <354E308C.546A@lspace.org> from "Andy Fawcett" at May 4, 98 10:18:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Andy Fawcett writes: > Philip Blundell wrote: > > >It might be worth adding this to the IDE driver, as it'll make those > > >WDC drives work, but unlikely to break any others. > > FWIW, I have a Caviar 2540 in my A5000 and it works fine with Linux. > > RISC OS won't talk to it but I'm not too bothered about that. > > I've got an A5000 with a Caviar IGig drive in (21000?) and it's never > been a problem at all. It works with the ICS Wizzo ROM, and nothing has > fazed it in nearly three years... Ho hum. Since I have no record of this thread (does anyone else have the previous 3 emails?) I shall have a brief attempt at answering it. Since !Linux uses RiscOS to gain access to it's partitions, if RiscOS can't read the partition containing the kernel, nor can !Linux. This effectively limits you to having the kernel in the first 512MB of your disk if you're using a version of RiscOS that can't handle large drives. Maybe I ought to add this to the FAQ... (done). _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 6 00:46:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: from listserv.funet.fi (listserv.funet.fi [128.214.248.27]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA05758 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 00:46:50 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:45896 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <4147-1107>; Wed, 6 May 1998 02:47:03 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971530-24203>; Tue, 5 May 1998 18:09:41 -0400 Received: from mars.cableol.net ([194.168.4.224]:2696 "HELO mars.cableol.net" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <972286-24203>; Tue, 5 May 1998 17:47:31 -0400 Received: from belinda-49.cableol.net by mars.cableol.net; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/22Feb96-0403PM) id AA21213; Tue, 5 May 1998 23:30:42 +0100 Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 23:26:52 +0100 From: John Lagrue To: melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Linux boot problem Message-Id: <4841AE833A%jdl@cableol.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Organization: Home account X-Mailer: Messenger v1.34c for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.21_ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60h X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO In message Melanie Rhianna Lewis wrote: > I have a nicely installed system which I can't get to run. > > Help > > Melanie *grin* You're ahead of me Melanie; I have an ICS IDEFS interface and nothing it seems on ARMLinux can yet handle that filing system. I have a large disc partition but am still unable even to begin to install it :-) Good luck! JDL -- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 6 01:01:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: from listserv.funet.fi (listserv.funet.fi [128.214.248.27]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA05773 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 01:00:52 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:43784 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <4125-6085>; Wed, 6 May 1998 03:00:57 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971055-24203>; Tue, 5 May 1998 18:56:30 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1520 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971403-24203>; Tue, 5 May 1998 18:00:33 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id AAA12342; Wed, 6 May 1998 00:13:23 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA15265; Tue, 5 May 1998 23:43:15 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id XAA01089; Tue, 5 May 1998 23:43:14 +0100 Message-Id: <199805052243.XAA01089@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Probs compiling kernel 2.0.33 To: janm@kom.auc.dk (Jan Magnussen) Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 23:43:13 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Jan Magnussen" at May 4, 98 02:43:38 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Jan Magnussen writes: > > I just reinstalled Linux, after accidentally deleting it a few months back, > > but when I try to compile the newest (260498) 2.0.33 kernel, I get the > > following error: > > > > gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -m6 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-fra > > me-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe -c -o proc-sa110.o ..tmp.s > > proc-sa110.S: Assembler messages: > > proc-sa110.S:174: Error: Internal_relocation (type 159) not fixed up (OFFSET_IMM) > > proc-sa110.S:177: Error: Internal_relocation (type 159) not fixed up (OFFSET_IMM) > > proc-sa110.S:178: Error: Internal_relocation (type 159) not fixed up (OFFSET_IMM) > > make[2]: *** [proc-sa110.o] Error 1 > > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/arm/mm' > > make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2 > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/arm/mm' > > make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2 > > > > What could be wrong? > > Hmmm. I found the error. > arch/arm/mm/constants.h were missing, so I made a symbolic link from > arch/arm/lib/constants.h to mm. That did the trick. Or replace the #include "constants.h" with #include "../lib/constants.h". It's good to know that ppl are compiling their own kernels ;) _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 6 10:17:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: from listserv.funet.fi (listserv.funet.fi [128.214.248.27]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA05948 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:17:26 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:57120 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3977-2979>; Wed, 6 May 1998 12:17:36 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970931-540>; Wed, 6 May 1998 05:09:20 -0400 Received: from zaz.kom.auc.dk ([130.225.51.10]:33707 "HELO zaz.kom.auc.dk" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971032-540>; Wed, 6 May 1998 04:56:30 -0400 Received: from trabant.kom.auc.dk [130.225.51.16] (root) by zaz.kom.auc.dk with smtp (Exim 1.80 #1) id 0yWzyS-0000P9-00; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:54:48 +0200 Received: from janm.stud.kom.auc.dk [10.0.171.85] by trabant.kom.auc.dk with smtp (Exim 1.80 #1) id 0yWzyQ-0005aT-00; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:54:46 +0200 Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 10:54:50 +0200 From: Jan Magnussen Subject: Re: Is there a driver for PowerTec I? To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199805051951.UAA00648@raistlin.armlinux.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Quercus. Denmark. X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.26] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Tue 05 May, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > Thomas Marx writes: > > I am really glad that there is some PowerTec driver. > > Does it run with a PowerTec I card ? > > Is there a driver for it? > > (or ) How much work is it to change the existing driver to run a > > PowerTec I ? > > That really depends on what the PowerTec I card is. Come to think of it, > I'm not absolutely sure that the card I have is a PTec II. Anyone know > what the obvious differences are? I think that he means a Powertec SCSI I card, as there are also fast SCSI II, and ultra SCSI III avaiable from Powertec. I myself have a Powertec SCSI II card, and the driver from the 19980426 release of the 2.0.33 patch works if I load it as a module with the terminators turned off. This however makes it very unstable, and crashes 90% of the times I make big reads from sda1, but it crashes all the time, if I try to access sda2, sda3 or sdb1. But now I am able to get in contact with my CDROM (scd0) :-). Has the Powertec drivers been fixed to be able to initialise with the terminators on? If so, will you please send me a patch for this driver. I will be happy to test it and tell you how it works. Regards Jan Magnussen http://www.kom.auc.dk/~janm Fidonet : 2:234/181.8 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 6 12:01:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: from listserv.funet.fi (listserv.funet.fi [128.214.248.27]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA06178 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 12:01:35 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:53853 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3790-6421>; Wed, 6 May 1998 14:01:24 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970935-540>; Wed, 6 May 1998 07:02:29 -0400 Received: from pyramid.businessmonitor.co.uk ([194.205.10.2]:4816 "EHLO pyramid.businessmonitor.co.uk" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971021-540>; Wed, 6 May 1998 07:02:11 -0400 Received: from illuminated.co.uk by pyramid.businessmonitor.co.uk (8.8.7/businessmonitor1.3) id LAA14934; Wed, 6 May 1998 11:55:13 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <35504449.1CEC5C39@illuminated.co.uk> Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 12:06:49 +0100 From: Sam Kington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.30 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ARM Linux mailing list Subject: KDE - anyone got it to compile on ARM Linux? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, Before I start downloading multiple megabytes of source RPMs, I just wanted to check whether anyone has successfully managed to compile KDE for ARM Linux. Sam -- Home page: http://www.illuminated.co.uk/ INWO Homebrew has moved: http://www.illuminated.co.uk/inwo/ Not my employer's opinion, no snappy quote unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 6 12:13:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: from listserv.funet.fi (listserv.funet.fi [128.214.248.27]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA06200 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 12:13:28 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:5236 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3786-6421>; Wed, 6 May 1998 14:13:26 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970891-540>; Wed, 6 May 1998 07:07:49 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:25562 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970951-540>; Wed, 6 May 1998 07:07:30 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (MAA00422); Wed, 6 May 1998 12:05:20 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 12:05:20 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: Ulrich Schwanecke cc: ARM Linux Subject: Re: ARM-Linux In-Reply-To: <199805060727.AA192209630@fb0439.mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Wed, 6 May 1998, Ulrich Schwanecke wrote: > Hi, > > my name is Uli Schwanecke. I'm very interested in having ARM-Linux on > my RISC-PC. I'm an absolut Linux-beginner. I tried to make an > ARM-Linux CD-ROM and to install ARM-Linux, but it doesn't work. I used > partman to set up Linux partitions. I also made a root disk image for > my machine. Everything works fine. After the kernel has been booted, > the installation programm works, till it tries to load something from > the CD-ROM. Do you know where I can get a CD-ROM that works? Or is > there another way to install ARM-Linux? What kind of CDROM do you have? If it's the Cumana Indigo sort designed for the original batch of RiscPCs (the ones with RiscOS 3.5 installed) it won't work, since Cumana used a very bizarre daughter board because Acorn's IDE interface didn't support CDROMs. There is another method of installing, and a zip archive with instructions on how to do this can be obtained from my web page (URL in the .sig). Best of luck, Phil -- Linux: The choice of a GNU generation. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org forrey@odie.barnet.ac.uk URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 6 22:21:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: from listserv.funet.fi (listserv.funet.fi [128.214.248.27]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA07214 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 22:21:17 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:49676 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <4288-20237>; Thu, 7 May 1998 00:20:46 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970800-540>; Wed, 6 May 1998 17:20:17 -0400 Received: from zaz.kom.auc.dk ([130.225.51.10]:45715 "HELO zaz.kom.auc.dk" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970922-540>; Wed, 6 May 1998 17:19:41 -0400 Received: from trabant.kom.auc.dk [130.225.51.16] (root) by zaz.kom.auc.dk with smtp (Exim 1.80 #1) id 0yXBay-00054Z-00; Wed, 6 May 1998 23:19:20 +0200 Received: from janm.stud.kom.auc.dk [10.0.171.85] by trabant.kom.auc.dk with smtp (Exim 1.80 #1) id 0yXBax-0001hW-00; Wed, 6 May 1998 23:19:19 +0200 Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 23:19:37 +0200 From: Jan Magnussen Subject: lesstif To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Quercus. Denmark. X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.26] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi all I have been trying to compile lesstif 0.83 on my system, but I seem to be missing a file called 'libtool'. Does anybody know where I can find this? Regards, Jan Magnussen http://www.kom.auc.dk/~janm Fidonet : 2:234/181.8 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 6 22:35:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: from listserv.funet.fi (listserv.funet.fi [128.214.248.27]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA07231 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 22:35:49 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:2853 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <4370-22574>; Thu, 7 May 1998 00:35:15 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970880-540>; Wed, 6 May 1998 17:34:51 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1631 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970886-540>; Wed, 6 May 1998 17:33:52 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA05403; Wed, 6 May 1998 22:33:28 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA16130; Wed, 6 May 1998 22:10:10 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id WAA02440; Wed, 6 May 1998 22:09:55 +0100 Message-Id: <199805062109.WAA02440@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Is there a driver for PowerTec I? To: janm@kom.auc.dk (Jan Magnussen) Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 22:09:54 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Jan Magnussen" at May 6, 98 10:54:50 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Jan Magnussen writes: > I think that he means a Powertec SCSI I card, as there are also fast SCSI II, > and ultra SCSI III avaiable from Powertec. I myself have a Powertec SCSI II > card, and the driver from the 19980426 release of the 2.0.33 patch works if I > load it as a module with the terminators turned off. This however makes it > very unstable, and crashes 90% of the times I make big reads from sda1, but > it crashes all the time, if I try to access sda2, sda3 or sdb1. But now I am > able to get in contact with my CDROM (scd0) :-). > Has the Powertec drivers been fixed to be able to initialise with the > terminators on? If so, will you please send me a patch for this driver. I > will be happy to test it and tell you how it works. Have you tried the latest kernel? Please please please if you have a problem please please please send some of the information that the kernel gives you. This is especially true for SCSI drivers - they tend to dump out a lot of very useful information which will aid in tracking down the problem. Without it, all I can say is 'ok, you have a problem, please send some more information'. However, the Powertec drivers should be working correctly from this Sunday's release (oops, forgot the kernel patches... ok, they'll be done). I can't guarantee that I'll be able to sort out a patch for just this driver though... _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 6 22:36:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: from listserv.funet.fi (listserv.funet.fi [128.214.248.27]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA07233 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 22:35:58 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:2853 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <4320-20237>; Thu, 7 May 1998 00:35:35 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970883-540>; Wed, 6 May 1998 17:34:56 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1622 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970885-540>; Wed, 6 May 1998 17:33:48 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA05399 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 22:33:26 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA16175 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 22:31:13 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id WAA02985 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Wed, 6 May 1998 22:30:56 +0100 Message-Id: <199805062130.WAA02985@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: README: About Reporting Bugs To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 22:30:55 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, I have always been aware that there are bugs/problems with the Linux distribution. However, I am getting a little concerned that there are some bugs that are not being reported, and hence not getting fixed. Since the ARM Linux port and the machine architectures are quite diverse, it is highly likely that you do not have the exact same setup as I do. This can cause certain bugs to lie dormant on my hardware which could be preventing use of ARM Linux with some peoples systems. Due to this fact, I feel that I need to encourage people to report bugs. This email is intended for guidance purposes on how to report a bug in Linux. 1. When you find a bug, please note the symptoms. This includes any kernel messages or error messages issued by the program concerned. 2. Please check the web site FAQ to see if the bug is already known about. At some later date, I may maintain a bug list as well to make this easier. If you find your problem and there is a solution described there, please try it. 3. If your problem is not mentioned or the solution does not work, please mail the mailing list with *all* relevant information. If the kernel dumps out a register list and/or a backtrace list, please include this along with your email - it may look pretty useless to you, but it'll make a world of difference (both to peoples response times and the speed of the bug fix). 4. Please include the version numbers of the software that you're using, and the exact details of the machine that you're running it on. Also information about whether you compiled the program yourself is very useful. In this case you may be asked some more questions. These four steps will help the process of tracking down problems far easier and faster for all concerned. Thanks. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 7 11:29:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: from listserv.funet.fi (listserv.funet.fi [128.214.248.27]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA07806 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 11:29:10 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:64780 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3851-20237>; Thu, 7 May 1998 13:29:39 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970866-540>; Thu, 7 May 1998 06:28:37 -0400 Received: from zaz.kom.auc.dk ([130.225.51.10]:47045 "HELO zaz.kom.auc.dk" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970847-540>; Thu, 7 May 1998 06:28:19 -0400 Received: from trabant.kom.auc.dk [130.225.51.16] (root) by zaz.kom.auc.dk with smtp (Exim 1.80 #1) id 0yXNuv-0007Pz-00; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:28:45 +0200 Received: from janm.stud.kom.auc.dk [10.0.171.85] by trabant.kom.auc.dk with smtp (Exim 1.80 #1) id 0yXNuu-000219-00; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:28:44 +0200 Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 12:28:56 +0200 From: Jan Magnussen Subject: Re: Is there a driver for PowerTec I? To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199805062109.WAA02440@raistlin.armlinux.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Quercus. Denmark. X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.26] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Wed 06 May, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > Jan Magnussen writes: > > Has the Powertec drivers been fixed to be able to initialise with the > > terminators on? If so, will you please send me a patch for this driver. I > > will be happy to test it and tell you how it works. > > Have you tried the latest kernel? Hmmm. I thought that 19980426 was the latest kernel for 2.0.33. I tried to compile 2.1.99, but failed horribly. Now all I can wait for is a new patch for 2.0.33, unless somebody can tell me how to compile the 2.1.99 kernel, or point me to a newer patch. > Please please please if you have a problem please please please send some > of the information that the kernel gives you. This is especially true > for SCSI drivers - they tend to dump out a lot of very useful information > which will aid in tracking down the problem. Without it, all I can say is > 'ok, you have a problem, please send some more information'. I will let you know how it works, once I manage to compile a newer kernel. > However, the Powertec drivers should be working correctly from this Sunday's > release (oops, forgot the kernel patches... ok, they'll be done). I can't Ahhh. > guarantee that I'll be able to sort out a patch for just this driver though... That is OK, as long as it works ;) Regards, Jan Magnussen http://www.kom.auc.dk/~janm Fidonet : 2:234/181.8 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 7 11:39:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: from listserv.funet.fi (listserv.funet.fi [128.214.248.27]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA07866 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 11:39:27 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:38169 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3647-22574>; Thu, 7 May 1998 13:39:44 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970886-540>; Thu, 7 May 1998 06:38:25 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:8444 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970876-540>; Thu, 7 May 1998 06:37:19 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id LAA07795 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Thu, 7 May 1998 11:27:52 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805071027.LAA07795@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: ARMLinux at Wakefield To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 11:27:51 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Russell isn't able to make it to Wakefield, and we've agreed that I shall go there and demonstrate ARM Linux. Please feel free to pop along to the stand and say hello. Chris Hughes > I have just expanded our stand by 4ft to fit you in! You will be on the > Wakefield Groups stand if that's OK. > > We can supply a chair and table (4ft by 2.5ft). You might want to do an > announcement about where you will be appearing in CSA.Announce, > > Cheers > > Chris > > -- > Chris Hughes, Member of Wakefield Acorn Computer (User) Group > (The views expressed above are mine, and not necessarily the User Group's) > > Wakefield Acorn Spring Show (16/17 May) - Don't miss the launch of RiscPC 2 > -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri May 8 00:47:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA10149 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 00:47:46 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA10189 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 00:48:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:27396 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10676-20801>; Fri, 8 May 1998 02:48:20 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970920-24530>; Thu, 7 May 1998 19:45:36 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:47674 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970955-24530>; Thu, 7 May 1998 19:45:15 -0400 Received: from (defaid.demon.co.uk) [158.152.96.167] by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yXaNd-0001u7-00; Fri, 8 May 1998 00:47:22 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by defaid.demon.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA20318 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 00:48:52 +0100 Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 00:48:50 +0100 (BST) From: Melanie Rhianna Lewis To: Arm Linux mailing list Subject: Re: Linux boot problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: None what so ever! X-Mailer: Pine 3.95 X-Host: Melanie's linux box - Mournblade MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Tue, 5 May 1998, Melanie Rhianna Lewis wrote: > I have a nicely installed system which I can't get to run. It does now thanks to help. I seem to have no comms or printer port? I presume a recomplile of the kernel is in order. Melanie -- ===================================================================== Melanie Rhianna Lewis melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk "An it hurt none, do what thou will" http://www.defaid.demon.co.uk ===================================================================== unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri May 8 02:46:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA10311 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 02:46:01 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA10195 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 02:46:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:52750 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10994-19922>; Fri, 8 May 1998 04:46:17 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970996-24530>; Thu, 7 May 1998 21:27:38 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1328 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971020-24530>; Thu, 7 May 1998 21:16:09 -0400 Received: from the-village.bc.nu (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id CAA05597 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 02:18:34 +0100 Received: by the-village.bc.nu (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0yXbem-000aOnC; Fri, 8 May 98 02:09 BST Message-Id: Date: Fri, 8 May 98 02:09 BST From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: The Corel THing - in full X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO He donated a Corel NC to Dave Neil. And OCLUG gave him a T-shirt and a Running Linux book. Something that everyone who joins OCLUGS gets. pres: Hello everyone. Since it's inseption, a year ago, they have taken a lead in the Open Software project. We have used a lot resources in producing this. We chose linux because of many features. Corel Computer will be giving all of it's development work to the Linux comminity. They will be offering code for both Linux and Java. They want to make it open and subjective to peer review. Corel Computer is promoting Linux as the ultimate platform. But Michael Cowpland will say more about Corel. It is obvious that we can't make good products using Microsoft's techology. Microsoft invented a high volume, low cost solution to the masses. Today, Corel, Symantec, and other must realize have little change at competing against Microsoft on it's own turf. low prices won't do. The solution is to produce a better product, and linux is the only alternative to windows. It's not only more stable, but because of the grass roots, and GPL it is superior. It's been proven that free software does not conflict with building a provitable buisness. services and support are the key to this. Much like roads, OS's are infrastructure. They should not be controled by any vendor. Michael Cowpland is now speaking. We are very proud of being part of the Linux Computer. Comunity, sorry. We have been competeing in Windows, with Ventura, Draw and others. We have could have more application software than MS. It's an uphill battle because they wrote the OS. We are used to competeing in windows, and we will continue to compete. We like free OSs. We also like Java, but it's not moving as expected. We see Java as more of a glue for all the OSs. We see the future OS as Linux because it is open and free. It's interesting to see that the FTC is investigating MS. The thing that the FTC can't do, we see that Linux can do it. We also believe that comercial applications on Linux. So that hte environment becomes rich and robust so that others can join in. We are makjing a comitment to port all applications over to Linux. (applause). (lots of applause). And as the major competitor, we are making a signal to the others to follow us. We are very excited to move ahead. We are going to release WP8 in Linux for $99. Including the rest of the suite. We are looking forward for a veryt long and exciting future with Linux. Mike Cowpland has sat down now. Dave Neil speaking again. We will be having a demonstration. We will be demonstrating the NetWinder. He's appologizing for the fact there was Windows on the screen earlier. That was another mahcine. Just over a year ago, wehen the NetWinder was gaining momentum, we were looking for an OS. We were looking for performance. We were looking for a future of the OS. So we chose Linux. Sorry, the name of the President of CC is Eid Eid. We have been progressing in leaps and bounds. He is introducing the developers I will get the names as soon as possible. I'm the one who organized this. We had nearly completed our Netscape port in 3 days. The virtual network application will allow you to use Windows over the network. There is win95 running in a window in X. It's running Quatro Pro. HE is also running Corel WordPerfect 8. The NC will run with 64 megs and 3 gigs. it will support onboard 10BaseT, ASDL, ISDN. it also has a infrared port and a serial port. GIMP was ported to the NC in 4 hours. He will be giving a demonstration of it now. he is loading up GIMP now. spud> he is loading up GIMP now. The NetWinder has many audio and video capabilities. It also includes telephony suport. It offers SVGA output. It also offers video capture, 16 bit sound. They are passing around a couple motherboards. It supports Zip, floppy, CDROM, and Jazz. The machine can diskless boot by a number of methos, DHCP, Bootp and others. tftp, as well as ftp. The root filesystem can be boot disk, NFS or SMB. If it can't boot from the drive, the firmware can contact a rescue server and reconstruct the disk. They are calling the join OCLUG, Corel, Netwinder development team. Richard Holm engineering manager at Corel. and others... I'll get the list after they are done announcing. Corel Computer would like to recognize and thank the OCLUG people. The corel team is: Richard Hone - Product development and engineering manager San Mehat - Senior Software Engineer Zak Sprackett - Unix Specialist Jim Bridgeman Project Manager Pat Burn - Cheif Engineer Oliver Bendzsa - Media Relations Bill Pope - Market Development Manager Roger Bryanton - Director of Engineering Couple of comments from Caldera and Redhat. Bob Young - Redhat: The entrance of Corel into the Open Code is wonderful. The desision was based on business reasons. I will get the transcript, and post it. He just quoted an article from ZDNet about giving the Linux comunity money in order to hurt MS. It's now time for a Q&A session. And questions? WP is in final testing now. WP7 has been ready for a while for Linux, you can download it off the NET. The cost of the machine will be about $1000. The hardware is available now for a pilot, and they are waiting on the FCC. They haven't decided weither or not they should port their code to other platforms. the code for the NC specifically. Linux gives you the volume and mass appeal. There are many books on Linux. It gives critical mass to enter other unix markets. We are committed to keeping the infrastructure freely available, but the applications are not planed to be free in order to keep the investment on them. Every night, I unplug my computer and take it home because it's so small. That's why I don't have a long uptime. They have a 1.2 gig HD model, and they can support up to 5 gigs. The processor is a sa110, which I do believe is a StrongArm. It uses a digital StrongARM SA-110S. The release date is June first. I am speaking with San Mehat here now. He is the senior engineer at CC. For June first, there will be a couple of releases. One release will be a diskless terminal replacement. With that will be a stand alone 32 meg, 1 gig hd machine. And there will be a developer release of 64 megs and 3 gig hd. We use SODimms, laptop memory. The board has EIDE for the HD, however if the development comunity speaks up, they can be a SCSI interface. For Corel Computer itself, they will be releasing the full source code for any modifications that they have made. Our compiler, assembler, linker. CC has been the main component for making a ELF compiler for StrongArm The process runs at 300Mhz offering 250MIPS of power. Currently they are running 2.0.31, but they will be integrating back to the linux tree, and they will be going ahead with the development. They will be announcing at Linux Expo. They will be available there for orders and demo machines available. any other questions? They are releasing the all the source from Corel Computer that makes the NetWinder work. When we go into full development, we will finalize the price. There may be a discount for registered developers. This must go through OCLUG because they are the liason to the development. They are currently at Phase 1, which is OCLUG only. Can you ask them if them if they are releasing the source to their JIT? Opening the registration to the internet community as a whole is phase 2. The Wordperfect currently uses motif. puffin> It sounds like things are slowing down, so I think we should all thank Dave Kennedy (spud) for commentating, and Clayton Scott for setting up hardware, and Corel, of course. The Win95 viewer is a GPLed app. The size of the machine is 2 inches tall, by 6 inches by 9 inches about. It has an integrated speaker, microphone. On the back, it has the following connectors: line ine (modem), phone out, serial, 10/100Base-t as well as 10Base-t video in, vbideo out, SVGA out. Parallel connector, stereo line in, handset, stereo line out. PS/2 keyboard, PS/2 mouse.. and of course power. Corel Draw is being considered for being released to Linux. There is a software codec that can be used for many things, including a modem. Only the source code from Corel Computer is being released. The following people are part of the OCLUG development team: Chris Herrnberger - Project Founder and Coordinator Dr. Francis Pinteric - Software and Apps Coordinator Andrew Mileski - X windows and kernel coordinator. David Neil - Communications Stan Vardomskiy - Developer Eric Laforest - Developer These are the people who have joined the team and doing work. More are comming, and we are looking for more. I am currently trying to get those quotes I didn't type up. Spud, can you tell us if $99 is the price for the whole office suite or just WP? Lots of people want to know. The suite is being ported now. The suite will be released near the end of the year, or early next year. They have not set a price on the WP Suite yet. I am talking to Oliver Bendzsa from Corel Computer. I also talking to Pat Burn. Word Perfect 7 is available now. WP8 probably by the end of June. for $99 US. $99 is for the desktop version. webmin.com (or soemthing liek that) has a RPM manager which will automatically download the latest kernel. There will be a server version which costs more. I'm unsure how that would work. Word Perfect 8 supports international features like national characters. Last call for questions. corelcomputer's website has a question field and they will take your question and add it to the FAC. Corel computer developed only on the StrongArm processor. They programmed it by toggling switches. The first peice of code was a loop. It went from there. A serial debugger was impletemented, the VGA, then a mini debugger Then we worked on the kernel. It always linux, with crosscompiling gcc. the OS for the NetWinder was always going to be Linux. Sorry for the delay. I have the quotes from the industry, from Robert Young, RedHat Software and Ransom Love, Caldera, Inc. First up is from RedHat., The entrance of a leading commercial hardware vendor, such as Corel Computer, into the Linux model of cooperative development and open code is highly significant. Corel Computer's decision to select Linux for it's network computer was based on solid technical reasons- a robust, reliable, innovative OS they could quickly port to their unique platform. The decision to open this code and support the model is based on solid business reasons-faster development, more reliable offerings and a closer relationship with their customers. Red Hat is enthusiastic about the entrance of Corel Computer to the Linux software development community. And now from Caldera. Caldera applauds Corel Computer for being one of the first hardware vendors to see the value of supporting Open-Source Software. The announcement of the NetWinder solution based on Linux reiterates that Linux is a great technology for the commercial thin-client space. Caldera Continues to focus on a Linux thin-server for business and looks to other hardware providers to follow Corel's lead in considering Linux as an OS Ok.. that's it... I'm out of here.. ;) Everyone in #coreld give David Kennedy (spud) a big hand for his effort A huge round of thanks for spud.... And Nat... Also, if you joined late a full log is available at http://linux.mit.edu/cgi-bin/corel.cgi And for puffin for organizing this whole broadcast unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri May 8 12:18:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: from listserv.funet.fi (listserv.funet.fi [128.214.248.27]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA11062 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:18:25 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:24425 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2319-7948>; Fri, 8 May 1998 14:17:45 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970884-24530>; Fri, 8 May 1998 07:13:27 -0400 Received: from post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.39]:40942 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970892-24530>; Fri, 8 May 1998 07:03:56 -0400 Received: from defaid.demon.co.uk ([158.152.96.167]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa1005883; 8 May 98 10:55 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by defaid.demon.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA24495 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 11:44:29 +0100 Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 11:44:28 +0100 (BST) From: Melanie Rhianna Lewis To: Arm Linux mailing list Subject: More problems... Message-ID: Organization: None what so ever! X-Mailer: Pine 3.95 X-Host: Melanie's linux box - Mournblade MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, I'm trying to recompile the kernel. Everythings is hunky dory until I actually try makeing anything and it all falls over with gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'as': No such file or directory Now as I haven't installed all the RPMS have I missed something (like I missed patch and had to add it manually). Or do I need updates of GCC? Thanks Melanie -- ===================================================================== Melanie Rhianna Lewis melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk "An it hurt none, do what thou will" http://www.defaid.demon.co.uk ===================================================================== unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri May 8 13:06:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: from listserv.funet.fi (listserv.funet.fi [128.214.248.27]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA11141 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 13:06:47 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:853 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <4531-5559>; Fri, 8 May 1998 15:07:31 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970797-24530>; Fri, 8 May 1998 08:03:28 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:12188 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970793-24530>; Fri, 8 May 1998 08:03:16 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (NAA01461); Fri, 8 May 1998 13:02:08 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 13:05:21 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: Melanie Rhianna Lewis cc: Arm Linux mailing list Subject: Re: More problems... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Fri, 8 May 1998, Melanie Rhianna Lewis wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm trying to recompile the kernel. Everythings is hunky dory until I > actually try makeing anything and it all falls over with > > gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'as': No such file or directory Sounds like you don't have the assembler installed. Look for RPMs which start with 'as-' or something similar. I've just had a look at the RPM list, and the only one I can find which sounds rightish is 'ash': ash-0.2-1.arm.rpm I'm not sure if this is the assembler or not though. Hope this helps, Phil -- Rule of programming #4: The length of time taken to find a bug is directly proportional to its simplicity. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri May 8 13:27:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: from listserv.funet.fi (listserv.funet.fi [128.214.248.27]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA11151 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 13:27:05 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:13928 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <4793-7005>; Fri, 8 May 1998 15:27:39 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970821-24530>; Fri, 8 May 1998 08:23:24 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:4160 "HELO globe" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970814-24530>; Fri, 8 May 1998 08:23:07 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yXm7I-000456-00; Fri, 8 May 1998 13:19:08 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yXm7H-0000ze-00; Fri, 8 May 1998 13:19:07 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Phil Norman cc: Melanie Rhianna Lewis , Arm Linux mailing list Subject: Re: More problems... In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 08 May 1998 13:05:21 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 13:19:06 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >Sounds like you don't have the assembler installed. Look for RPMs which >start with 'as-' or something similar. I've just had a look at the RPM >list, and the only one I can find which sounds rightish is 'ash': >ash-0.2-1.arm.rpm >I'm not sure if this is the assembler or not though. It's not - ash is a lightweight Bourne-like shell. The assembler is part of binutils. The other possibility is that you do have the assembler installed but gcc is looking for it in the wrong place. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri May 8 17:19:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: from listserv.funet.fi (listserv.funet.fi [128.214.248.27]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA11553 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 17:19:37 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:37438 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3005-5559>; Fri, 8 May 1998 19:20:20 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970797-24530>; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:15:52 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:43706 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970875-24530>; Fri, 8 May 1998 12:14:01 -0400 Received: from (defaid.demon.co.uk) [158.152.96.167] by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yXpqH-0000Nm-00; Fri, 8 May 1998 17:17:50 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by defaid.demon.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA25802 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 14:09:13 +0100 Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 14:09:12 +0100 (BST) From: Melanie Rhianna Lewis To: Arm Linux mailing list Subject: Re: More problems... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: None what so ever! X-Mailer: Pine 3.95 X-Host: Melanie's linux box - Mournblade MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Fri, 8 May 1998, Philip Blundell wrote: > >Sounds like you don't have the assembler installed. Look for RPMs which > >start with 'as-' or something similar. I've just had a look at the RPM > >list, and the only one I can find which sounds rightish is 'ash': > >ash-0.2-1.arm.rpm > >I'm not sure if this is the assembler or not though. > > It's not - ash is a lightweight Bourne-like shell. The assembler is part of > binutils. I tried re-installing it and it did reinstall and now appears to be working properly. Don't know why it wasn't there as I was dead certain I had included Bin utils in my selection when I first installed linux. Oh well. Thanks for your help. Melanie -- ===================================================================== Melanie Rhianna Lewis melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk "An it hurt none, do what thou will" http://www.defaid.demon.co.uk ===================================================================== unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri May 8 23:36:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: from listserv.funet.fi (listserv.funet.fi [128.214.248.27]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA12379 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 23:36:01 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:11569 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3914-24805>; Sat, 9 May 1998 01:36:34 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971021-3215>; Fri, 8 May 1998 18:31:20 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1818 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971028-3215>; Fri, 8 May 1998 18:25:08 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup2.cymru.net [163.164.160.66]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id XAA28898 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 23:29:15 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA02056 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 23:29:16 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id XAA01073 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Fri, 8 May 1998 23:29:03 +0100 Message-Id: <199805082229.XAA01073@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: The Corel THing - in full To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 23:29:02 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: from "Alan Cox" at May 8, 98 02:09:00 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Full information on Corel's standpoint and details of their announcement can be found on their Corporate Web site at: http://www.corelcomputer.com/ Enjoy! _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat May 9 00:21:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA12453 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 00:21:05 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA10309 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 00:22:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14688 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2255-20801>; Sat, 9 May 1998 02:21:03 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971050-3215>; Fri, 8 May 1998 19:15:10 -0400 Received: from post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.39]:36458 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971062-3215>; Fri, 8 May 1998 19:09:39 -0400 Received: from succexpr.demon.co.uk ([158.152.208.192]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa1009302; 8 May 98 23:03 GMT Message-ID: <3553904B.D7DD0386@causality.com> Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 00:07:55 +0100 From: "Neil A. Carson" Organization: Causality Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin CC: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Corel THing - in full References: <199805082229.XAA01073@raistlin.armlinux.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Just a 2nd person to say 'well done' --- it's always great to see 'pet' projects taking on the world!!! Neil unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat May 9 19:50:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA13318 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 19:50:52 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA10341 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 19:52:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:19976 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11210-27109>; Sat, 9 May 1998 21:51:15 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970941-3215>; Sat, 9 May 1998 14:44:43 -0400 Received: from pyramid.businessmonitor.co.uk ([194.205.10.2]:1046 "EHLO pyramid.businessmonitor.co.uk" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970939-3215>; Sat, 9 May 1998 14:41:46 -0400 Received: from illuminated.co.uk by pyramid.businessmonitor.co.uk (8.8.7/businessmonitor1.3) id TAA24638; Sat, 9 May 1998 19:42:09 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <3554A418.D675D1A@illuminated.co.uk> Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 19:44:41 +0100 From: Sam Kington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ARM Linux mailing list Subject: /etc/includes/linux, newbie questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, /etc/includes/linux (or whatever Perl asks for a lot when compiling) is missing on my system, after an apparently successful install of ARM Linux (with all the RPMs on the ftp site apart from bsdgames). Is there any way to get these includes without fetching the entire kernel source? (And if so, where do I *get* the kernel source?) Oh, PartMan 1.13 alpha 7 definately didn't trash my system when I told it to create partitions on my PowerTec II SCSI drive. As to whether it did anything useful, I have no idea, as I haven't found out how to access the SCSI drives (the PowerTec driver is apparently found, but marked as blacklisted, when the system boots). Is there a decent newbie site for Linux I could have a look at, rather than having to mail the mailing list every time I get stuck? Sam -- Home page: http://www.illuminated.co.uk/ INWO Homebrew has moved: http://www.illuminated.co.uk/inwo/ Although the moon is smaller than the earth, it is farther away. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat May 9 20:11:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA13373 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 20:11:01 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10348 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 20:12:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:549 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10490-27109>; Sat, 9 May 1998 22:10:38 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970944-3215>; Sat, 9 May 1998 15:04:12 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:23652 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970938-3215>; Sat, 9 May 1998 15:04:03 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id UAA13361; Sat, 9 May 1998 20:08:35 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805091908.UAA13361@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: /etc/includes/linux, newbie questions To: sam@illuminated.co.uk (Sam Kington) Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 20:08:34 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <3554A418.D675D1A@illuminated.co.uk> from "Sam Kington" at May 9, 98 07:44:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Sam Kington > /etc/includes/linux (or whatever Perl asks for a lot when compiling) > is missing on my system, after an apparently successful install of ARM > Linux (with all the RPMs on the ftp site apart from bsdgames). > Is there any way to get these includes without fetching the entire > kernel source? (And if so, where do I *get* the kernel source?) /usr/include/linux, I suspect. The Debian & Slackware distributions both have a kernel-headers package that you can install, so I'd be extremely surprised if RedHat didn't. To get the kernel source, first try a mirror of ftp.kernel.org to get linux-2.0.33.tar.gz (or .bz2 if you have bzip2 available), then go to ftp.arm.uk.linux.org, get the latest 2.0.33 patch, and apply the patch. You must run make config before everything will work. There are instructions in the kernel distribution to tell you how to apply patches. Try ftp://sunsite.org.uk/Mirrors/ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.0/ > Is there a decent newbie site for Linux I could have a look at, rather > than having to mail the mailing list every time I get stuck? O'Reilly do lots of good books on Linux (and Unix in general). If you get a book to do with a particular distribution, the current distribution is almost, but not quite entirely like RedHat 4. I don't know about linux newbie websites; but there's an awful lot of docs available in /usr/doc (if you installed it all..) -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat May 9 22:29:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA13884 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 22:29:15 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA10357 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 22:30:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:30496 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10373-8489>; Sun, 10 May 1998 00:30:00 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970981-3215>; Sat, 9 May 1998 17:23:33 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:24643 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970982-3215>; Sat, 9 May 1998 17:23:05 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id WAA13877 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Sat, 9 May 1998 22:27:50 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805092127.WAA13877@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: rc5 for ARMLinux! To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 22:27:50 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Now, I just know you've all got oodles of CPU time spare when you're not busily compiling Russell's kernel-of-the-week, so instead of allowing it to idle, why not join in the rc5 cracking effort: http://www.distributed.net/clients.html I'll prolly be lynched if I don't recommend you join team EH - 865. Currently the leading UK-based team at #24 and we're not far off being #22, just a few more blocks per day required ;-) -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun May 10 08:59:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA14253 for ; Sun, 10 May 1998 08:59:43 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10422 for ; Sun, 10 May 1998 09:00:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:11848 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2553-14830>; Sun, 10 May 1998 11:00:41 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970794-3215>; Sun, 10 May 1998 03:53:36 -0400 Received: from teapot23.bigpond.com ([139.134.5.165]:1366 "HELO teapot23.domain2.bigpond.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970798-3215>; Sun, 10 May 1998 03:53:20 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by teapot23.domain2.bigpond.com (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id xa286231 for ; Sun, 10 May 1998 17:58:49 +1100 Received: from [139.134.41.42] by bigpond.com (Claudes-Conquering-MailRouter V1.1b); 10 May 1998 17:58:47 Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 17:54:32 +0000 From: Dan Todd To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Help installing on RPC Message-ID: <9cc2284448%dantodd@dantodd.bigpond.com> Organization: The House of Dan X-Mailer: Messenger v1.11 for RISC OS X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60h X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I've just tryed to install Armlinux using the RPMs on the clan CD and Phil Normans guide. The RedHat installation program seems to go ok until just after it asks for the root password. It then informs me that it can't find the kernel. What do I do then? I tryed Alt-f2 and typing /mnt/bin/syn After doing this, and configuring !LinConfig as described in the install guide, when !Linux is executed I get a bad magic (0000000) error - aborting error. What do I do now? -- Dan Todd unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun May 10 10:08:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA14313 for ; Sun, 10 May 1998 10:08:33 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10430 for ; Sun, 10 May 1998 10:09:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:18802 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2083-27109>; Sun, 10 May 1998 12:09:19 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970821-3215>; Sun, 10 May 1998 05:02:20 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1258 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970810-3215>; Sun, 10 May 1998 05:00:01 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id KAA30427; Sun, 10 May 1998 10:06:26 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05204; Sun, 10 May 1998 09:24:34 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id JAA00567; Sun, 10 May 1998 09:24:36 +0100 Message-Id: <199805100824.JAA00567@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Help installing on RPC To: dantodd@bigpond.com (Dan Todd) Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 09:24:36 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <9cc2284448%dantodd@dantodd.bigpond.com> from "Dan Todd" at May 10, 98 05:54:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Dan Todd writes: > I've just tryed to install Armlinux using the RPMs on the clan CD and > Phil Normans guide. > > The RedHat installation program seems to go ok until just after it asks > for the root password. It then informs me that it can't find the > kernel. > > What do I do then? > > I tryed Alt-f2 and typing /mnt/bin/syn > After doing this, and configuring !LinConfig as described in the install > guide, when !Linux is executed I get a bad magic (0000000) error - > aborting error. > > What do I do now? Please read the FAQ on my web pages. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun May 10 21:31:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA15073 for ; Sun, 10 May 1998 21:31:00 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA10458 for ; Sun, 10 May 1998 21:32:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:38970 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10756-27109>; Sun, 10 May 1998 23:32:21 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970871-3215>; Sun, 10 May 1998 16:24:25 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:28228 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970877-3215>; Sun, 10 May 1998 16:24:01 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (VAA24511); Sun, 10 May 1998 21:11:34 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 21:11:34 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: Dan Todd cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Help installing on RPC In-Reply-To: <9cc2284448%dantodd@dantodd.bigpond.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Sun, 10 May 1998, Dan Todd wrote: > I tryed Alt-f2 and typing /mnt/bin/syn > After doing this, and configuring !LinConfig as described in the install > guide, when !Linux is executed I get a bad magic (0000000) error - > aborting error. > > What do I do now? Try running linux using: .!Linux.!Run -bootkernel ADFS::4.$.ARMLinux.kernel When you get the prompt: Insert extra arguments: type in 'root=/dev/hda3' (or whatever you specified as your root partition during the install). You should be able to boot into linux using that, and after that you can use RMK's 'loadmap' program (after copying the kernel onto your linux partition) to sort out all the stuff needed to get his bootloader (!Linux) to work properly. Then you should be able to install !Linux in your !Boot application (all explained in !Linux's help file) and everything will work beautifully. Bye, Phil -- Linux: A penguin which jumps through Windows and leaps over Gates. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 11 11:05:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA15970 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:05:20 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10579 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:05:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:1110 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10304-8489>; Mon, 11 May 1998 13:04:03 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971043-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 05:55:45 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:59234 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971032-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 05:52:55 -0400 Received: from defaid.demon.co.uk ([158.152.96.167]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2024969; 11 May 98 9:47 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by defaid.demon.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA04923 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:47:23 +0100 Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:47:23 +0100 (BST) From: Melanie Rhianna Lewis To: Arm Linux mailing list Subject: Kernel Compilation - what no adfs... Message-ID: Organization: None what so ever! X-Mailer: Pine 3.95 X-Host: Melanie's linux box - Mournblade MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I've recompiled the kernel for my RPC600 using 2.0.33 sources from sunsite and the patch from the website. There was a small bug in proc-sa110.c include "constants.h" -> include "../lib/constants.h" which once corrected make it compile correctly. I have a couple of minor problems/questions. Firstly, since I indicated in the config that I'm running an ARM610 should it be using proc-sa110.c at all? I included adfs support in the config but it doesn't seem to be compiled in to the kernel. What happened? Finally, PLIP. I notice there isn't an option for it. Has it been done or do I need to have a go at porting? Is it a trivial matter? I would like to connect my RPC to my i686 linux box and hence on to the house lan but currently an RPC network card is out of the question due to cost. Im currently using a serial/ppp link. Thanks for your help as always. Melanie -- ===================================================================== Melanie Rhianna Lewis melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk "An it hurt none, do what thou will" http://www.defaid.demon.co.uk ===================================================================== unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 11 11:42:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA16015 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:42:22 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10591 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:42:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:62585 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10384-20232>; Mon, 11 May 1998 13:41:43 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971047-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 06:33:27 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:10300 "HELO globe" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971044-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 06:33:20 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yYpho-0005gb-00; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:21:12 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yYphn-00049e-00; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:21:11 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Melanie Rhianna Lewis cc: Arm Linux mailing list Subject: Re: Kernel Compilation - what no adfs... In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 May 1998 11:47:23 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:21:10 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >Finally, PLIP. I notice there isn't an option for it. Has it been done >or do I need to have a go at porting? Is it a trivial matter? I would It should "just work". p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 11 13:27:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA16139 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 13:27:11 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10605 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 13:27:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:29520 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10536-27109>; Mon, 11 May 1998 15:24:38 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971062-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 08:16:02 -0400 Received: from cptsg4.univ-mrs.fr ([139.124.7.104]:30613 "HELO cptsg4" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971061-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 08:12:00 -0400 Received: from cptsg4 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cptsg4 (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA24447; Mon, 11 May 1998 14:16:58 +0200 Message-ID: <3556EC39.41C6@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 14:16:57 +0200 From: Vincent PENNE Organization: Centre de Physique Theorique de Marseille X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01S (X11; I; IRIX64 6.2 IP28) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Melanie Rhianna Lewis CC: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Kernel Compilation - what no adfs... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Melanie Rhianna Lewis wrote: > I included adfs support in the config but it doesn't seem to be compiled > in to the kernel. What happened? > I had the same problem : two options need to be turned on in order to allow ADFS reading. The first one is the ADFS partition system. The second one, the filesystem itself, can be turned on only if you accept in the beginning of the configuration script features of arm-linux (that are not guaranted to work). I succeded in installing a ZIP drive, to my knowledge, arm-linux is the only way to acces a ZIP drive on RiscPC ! My question is : Since the default parallel port on RiscPC is at 0x278, why is the default value of the PPA driver set to 0x378, as if we were on a PC ? Also, it might be interesting to add in the FAQ an other reason why the driver might not load : it happens when you turn on the printer driver in the kernel, which then allocates the parallel port for itself in the very beginning of the boot procedure, preventing the PPA driver to use it ... Finally, for those interesting in compiling c++ programs, I found and empirical solution : I use libg++-2.5.3, with "gcc" compiler command (and not "g++" or "c++") with the library options "-lg -lstdc++" at the end of the command line. The order is important ! it prevents conflict between iostream and stdio functions ... With these options, I could compile the wxWindows library with its example, and all of them worked! What is the difference between "libc.a" and "libg.a" ? When I tried "-lc" instead of "-lg", only half of the examples worked ... (when I say work or not, I don't mean at compile time, in any cases it compiles perfectly, but at execution time) And when I used the usual way, that is using the "g++" command (which is equivalent I think with having the library options "-lstdc++ -lc", in the reversed order), none of the example worked ... Vincent. -- /==========================================================\ | Vincent PENNE, Centre de Physique Theorique | |Tel. (0033)4 91 26 95 04 CNRS - LUMINY - Case 907 | |Fax. (0033)4 91 26 95 53 F-13288 MARSEILLE CEDEX 9 | |Email: penne@cpt.univ-mrs.fr FRANCE | |http://www.cpt.univ-mrs.fr | \==========================================================/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 11 14:38:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA00128 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 14:38:46 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA10613 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 14:38:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:9768 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10611-20232>; Mon, 11 May 1998 16:37:53 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971087-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 09:29:17 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:12382 "HELO globe" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971078-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 09:26:21 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yYsSv-0005z1-00; Mon, 11 May 1998 14:18:01 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yYsSu-0004zl-00; Mon, 11 May 1998 14:18:00 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Vincent PENNE cc: Melanie Rhianna Lewis , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Kernel Compilation - what no adfs... In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 May 1998 14:16:57 +0200." <3556EC39.41C6@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 14:18:00 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >My question is : Since the default parallel port on RiscPC is at 0x278, >why is the default value of the PPA driver set to 0x378, as if we were >on a PC ? Also, it might be interesting to add in the FAQ an other >reason why the driver might not load : it happens when you turn on the >printer driver in the kernel, which then allocates the parallel port for >itself in the very beginning of the boot procedure, preventing the PPA >driver to use it ... Both these problems have gone away in 2.1 kernels. The reason for the first is precisely because the default is set to be correct for more people and PC hardware is considerably more common than RiscPC hardware. A workaround for the second is to make both the printer and the PPA driver modular and load them as necessary. I strongly suggest you _don't_ hack the code to defeat the check_region() calls that prevent you loading both at once -- although this will appear to work, you run the risk of corrupting data on your Zip disks if the printer is in use at the same time. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 11 15:12:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA00177 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 15:12:28 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA10621 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 15:12:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:52572 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10711-20232>; Mon, 11 May 1998 17:11:37 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971078-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 10:03:24 -0400 Received: from [193.131.112.97] ([193.131.112.97]:48865 "HELO mailgate.netherhall.cambs.sch.uk" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971106-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 10:03:08 -0400 Received: (qmail 15977 invoked from network); 11 May 1998 14:10:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO huey.netherhall.cambs.sch.uk) (1.0.128.152) by 1.3.128.25 with SMTP; 11 May 1998 14:10:57 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 15:10:58 +0100 (BST) From: Tom Palmer Subject: ELF Support? To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: The Netherhall School, Cambridge, United Kingdom X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.41] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, Do I need to use gcc-2.8.x and binutils-2.8.x in order to get ELF support on arm-linux? Or is it just not supported? The reason that I ask is that I'm looking to move my machine onto using PAM rather than the standard authentication mechanism. According to the readme file for Linux-PAM (http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/index.html) some of the features won't work on an a.out system. So what't the status of the ELF support for ARM machines? If there's no ELF support yet then I guess I'll just have to stay with the current method :( Cheers, Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Palmer, Webmaster, The Netherhall School, Cambridge, United Kingdom ------------------------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 11 16:08:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA00267 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 16:08:02 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10630 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 16:08:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:19539 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10628-8489>; Mon, 11 May 1998 18:06:44 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971102-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 10:55:29 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:1170 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971134-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 10:53:26 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id QAA00257; Mon, 11 May 1998 16:00:46 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805111500.QAA00257@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ELF Support? To: tom@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk (Tom Palmer) Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 16:00:45 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Tom Palmer" at May 11, 98 03:10:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Tom Palmer > > Hi, > > Do I need to use gcc-2.8.x and binutils-2.8.x in order to get ELF > support on arm-linux? Or is it just not supported? There is currently no publically available support for user-level ELF. There is limited support for kernel-level ELF. You'll have to be patient for a little longer, I'm afraid. From private conversations with Russell, it seems there are various problems with gcc 2.8.1. Oh, and binutils 2.9.1.0.4 is out now - anyone tried using it yet? -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 11 16:18:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA00275 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 16:18:28 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10634 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 16:18:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:19539 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11016-8489>; Mon, 11 May 1998 18:16:12 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971133-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:05:52 -0400 Received: from zaz.kom.auc.dk ([130.225.51.10]:35252 "HELO zaz.kom.auc.dk" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971139-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:03:37 -0400 Received: from trabant.kom.auc.dk [130.225.51.16] (root) by zaz.kom.auc.dk with smtp (Exim 1.80 #1) id 0yYuEl-0007Kl-00; Mon, 11 May 1998 17:11:31 +0200 Received: from janm.stud.kom.auc.dk [10.0.171.85] by trabant.kom.auc.dk with smtp (Exim 1.80 #1) id 0yYuEk-0002k4-00; Mon, 11 May 1998 17:11:30 +0200 Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 17:11:48 +0200 From: Jan Magnussen Subject: Re: ELF Support? To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199805111500.QAA00257@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Quercus. Denmark. X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.26] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Mon 11 May, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > There is currently no publically available support for user-level ELF. Then how do I compile 2.1.xx kernels? I thought that ELF was needed to compile these kernels. Regards, Jan Magnussen http://www.kom.auc.dk/~janm Fidonet : 2:234/181.8 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From pb@nexus.co.uk Mon May 11 16:40:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: from globe (nexusel.demon.co.uk [158.152.30.195]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id QAA00307 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 16:40:48 +0100 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yYugx-0006CS-00; Mon, 11 May 1998 16:40:39 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yYugw-00068S-00; Mon, 11 May 1998 16:40:38 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Matthew Wilcox cc: tom@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk (Tom Palmer), linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ELF Support? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 May 1998 16:00:45 BST." <199805111500.QAA00257@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 16:40:38 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Status: RO >There is limited support for kernel-level ELF. You'll have to be patient >for a little longer, I'm afraid. From private conversations with Russell, >it seems there are various problems with gcc 2.8.1. There do seem to be a couple. Mostly they only seem to happen with -mcpu=strongarm110. I had a look at this earlier but didn't manage to catch it generating wrong code. >Oh, and binutils 2.9.1.0.4 is out now - anyone tried using it yet? I've been using it for a while, yes. It fixes a couple of ARM-related problems in gas, and I went on a bit of a crusade and deleted loads of hopefully-obsolete stuff from tc-arm.c. p. From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 11 17:02:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA00329 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 17:02:00 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA10652 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 17:01:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:7982 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10362-27109>; Mon, 11 May 1998 19:01:34 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971162-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:53:04 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:13417 "HELO globe" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971158-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:52:45 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yYumG-0006DA-00; Mon, 11 May 1998 16:46:08 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yYumF-0006A1-00; Mon, 11 May 1998 16:46:07 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Jan Magnussen cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ELF Support? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 May 1998 17:11:48 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 16:46:07 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >Then how do I compile 2.1.xx kernels? I thought that ELF was needed to >compile these kernels. The current version of binutils should be just about capable of building a kernel as ELF, and probably even user-space applications as well so long as you stick to static binaries. I admit though that it's a long time since I tried it and bit rot may have set in. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 11 17:02:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA00333 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 17:02:02 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA10655 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 17:01:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:7982 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10321-8489>; Mon, 11 May 1998 19:01:54 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971158-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:53:07 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:13419 "HELO globe" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971163-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:52:52 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yYuiA-0006Cq-00; Mon, 11 May 1998 16:41:54 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yYui9-00068k-00; Mon, 11 May 1998 16:41:53 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Tom Palmer cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ELF Support? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 May 1998 15:10:58 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 16:41:53 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > Do I need to use gcc-2.8.x and binutils-2.8.x in order to get ELF support on > arm-linux? Or is it just not supported? It's not supported yet. I hope to have an ELF-capable toolset ready for beta test within the next week or so. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 11 18:07:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA00384 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 18:07:48 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA10665 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 18:07:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:37904 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10432-27109>; Mon, 11 May 1998 20:07:22 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971191-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 12:57:42 -0400 Received: from zaz.kom.auc.dk ([130.225.51.10]:39733 "HELO zaz.kom.auc.dk" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971193-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 12:55:04 -0400 Received: from trabant.kom.auc.dk [130.225.51.16] (root) by zaz.kom.auc.dk with smtp (Exim 1.80 #1) id 0yYvyk-00011d-00; Mon, 11 May 1998 19:03:06 +0200 Received: from janm.stud.kom.auc.dk [10.0.171.85] by trabant.kom.auc.dk with smtp (Exim 1.80 #1) id 0yYvyj-00064r-00; Mon, 11 May 1998 19:03:05 +0200 Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 19:03:13 +0200 From: Jan Magnussen Subject: Probs compiling 2.1.99 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Quercus. Denmark. X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.26] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi there. I have been trying to compile 2.1.99 with the latest patches, but I have been having some problems: 1) A file called autoconf.h was missing. I solved this by making an empty file called /usr/src/linux/include/linux/autoconf.h !! Is this the proper way? 2) When doing 'make xconfig' I got many warnings like this ones: WARNING - broken Config.in! CONFIG_APOLLO was not declared! WARNING - broken Config.in! CONFIG_MAC was not declared! WARNING - broken Config.in! CONFIG_TGA_CONSOLE was not declared! WARNING - broken Config.in! CONFIG_FB_MAC was not declared! WARNING - broken Config.in! CONFIG_FB_TGA was not declared! WARNING - broken Config.in! CONFIG_FB_ACORN was not declared! WARNING - broken Config.in! ARCH was not declared! WARNING - broken Config.in! CONFIG_AMIGA was not declared! WARNING - broken Config.in! CONFIG_ATARI was not declared! WARNING - broken Config.in! CONFIG_PPC was not declared! WARNING - broken Config.in! CONFIG_PMAC was not declared! WARNING - broken Config.in! CONFIG_MIPS_JAZZ was not declared! WARNING - broken Config.in! CONFIG_MCA was not declared! I was able to configure the kernel anyway, but is it supposed to complain about this broken Config.in? 3) After configuring the kernel, I did a 'make dep' which returned : /bin/sh: /usr/src/bin/arm/arm-linuxelf-gcc: No such file or directory usage: genksyms [-gwqdD] directory make[1]: *** [/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/signal.ver] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/kernel' make: *** [dep-files] Error 2 How do I get past this??? Regards, Jan Magnussen http://www.kom.auc.dk/~janm Fidonet : 2:234/181.8 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 11 18:11:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA00390 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 18:11:57 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA10669 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 18:11:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:37904 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10899-27109>; Mon, 11 May 1998 20:11:40 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971194-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 13:03:10 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:64802 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971190-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 13:02:33 -0400 Received: from defaid.demon.co.uk ([158.152.96.167]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2012914; 11 May 98 17:05 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by defaid.demon.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA06913; Mon, 11 May 1998 18:46:20 +0100 Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 18:46:19 +0100 (BST) From: Melanie Rhianna Lewis To: Vincent PENNE cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Kernel Compilation - what no adfs... In-Reply-To: <3556EC39.41C6@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> Message-ID: Organization: None what so ever! X-Mailer: Pine 3.95 X-Host: Melanie's linux box - Mournblade MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Mon, 11 May 1998, Vincent PENNE wrote: > Melanie Rhianna Lewis wrote: > > > I included adfs support in the config but it doesn't seem to be compiled > > in to the kernel. What happened? > > I had the same problem : two options need to be turned on in order to > allow ADFS reading. The first one is the ADFS partition system. The > second one, the filesystem itself, can be turned on only if you accept > in the beginning of the configuration script features of > arm-linux (that are not guaranted to work). Thanks, I'll try that. > I succeded in installing a ZIP drive, to my knowledge, arm-linux is the > only way to acces a ZIP drive on RiscPC ! There is a zip driver for the RiscPC but its commercial. > Also, it might be interesting to add in the FAQ an other > reason why the driver might not load : it happens when you turn on the > printer driver in the kernel, which then allocates the parallel port for > itself in the very beginning of the boot procedure, preventing the PPA > driver to use it ... I do it by having both lp and ppa as modules and load as and when required. Just like my intel box. Melanie -- ===================================================================== Melanie Rhianna Lewis melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk "An it hurt none, do what thou will" http://www.defaid.demon.co.uk ===================================================================== unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 11 18:45:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA00439 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 18:45:01 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA10682 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 18:44:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:21073 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10646-14830>; Mon, 11 May 1998 20:44:22 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971207-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 13:35:31 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:2181 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971215-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 13:32:38 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yYwVY-0003MB-00; Mon, 11 May 1998 18:37:00 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Jan Magnussen cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Probs compiling 2.1.99 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 May 1998 19:03:13 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 18:36:59 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >1) A file called autoconf.h was missing. I solved this by making an empty >file called /usr/src/linux/include/linux/autoconf.h !! Is this the proper >way? It should be created by `make config'. >2) When doing 'make xconfig' I got many warnings like this ones: >WARNING - broken Config.in! CONFIG_APOLLO was not declared! You can ignore those. >3) After configuring the kernel, I did a 'make dep' which returned : >/bin/sh: /usr/src/bin/arm/arm-linuxelf-gcc: No such file or directory >usage: genksyms [-gwqdD] directory >make[1]: *** [/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/signal.ver] Error 1 >make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/kernel' >make: *** [dep-files] Error 2 >How do I get past this??? You need to modify the Makefile a bit. Where it says `CROSS-COMPILE = /usr/ src/...', change that to just `CROSS-COMPILE = arm-linux-'. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 11 19:06:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA00535 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 19:06:09 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA10686 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 19:06:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:4358 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10527-14830>; Mon, 11 May 1998 21:05:39 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971219-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 13:56:34 -0400 Received: from zaz.kom.auc.dk ([130.225.51.10]:42910 "HELO zaz.kom.auc.dk" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971271-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 13:56:01 -0400 Received: from trabant.kom.auc.dk [130.225.51.16] (root) by zaz.kom.auc.dk with smtp (Exim 1.80 #1) id 0yYwvi-0001su-00; Mon, 11 May 1998 20:04:02 +0200 Received: from janm.stud.kom.auc.dk [10.0.171.85] by trabant.kom.auc.dk with smtp (Exim 1.80 #1) id 0yYwvh-0007kA-00; Mon, 11 May 1998 20:04:01 +0200 Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 20:04:12 +0200 From: Jan Magnussen Subject: Re: Probs compiling 2.1.99 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Quercus. Denmark. X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.26] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Mon 11 May, Philip Blundell wrote: > You need to modify the Makefile a bit. Where it says `CROSS-COMPILE = /usr/ > src/...', change that to just `CROSS-COMPILE = arm-linux-'. That didn't work either. I changed it to 'arm-unknown-linuxaout-' instead, but got the following error instead: | /sbin/genksyms -k 2.1.99 > /usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/signal.ver.tmp usage: genksyms [-gwqdD] directory cpp: output pipe has been closed make[1]: *** [/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/signal.ver] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/kernel' make: *** [dep-files] Error 2 Any other suggestions? Regards, Jan Magnussen http://www.kom.auc.dk/~janm Fidonet : 2:234/181.8 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 11 19:06:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA00539 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 19:06:17 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA10690 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 19:06:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:4358 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11059-14830>; Mon, 11 May 1998 21:06:11 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971217-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 13:56:42 -0400 Received: from later.CS.Berkeley.EDU ([128.32.37.29]:1625 "EHLO later.CS.Berkeley.EDU" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971267-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 13:53:38 -0400 Received: from localhost (rmartin@localhost) by later.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA09467 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 11:01:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: later.CS.Berkeley.EDU: rmartin owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:01:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich Martin To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Booting the EBSA110 kernel Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I pulled the ebsa110 kernel over from: ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org//pub/armlinux/distrib/kernels/ebsa-2.0.31-1997.09.13 After "fixing" our bootp to load the kernel into the right spot in dram, we got it loaded , excecuted it, and .... drum roll please... nothing happened, no output to the serial console. The serial debugger was of course, toast :) My question is what's *supposed* to happen with this kernel? Also, I know we'll have to pass args to the kernel to NFS root mount, but that's for later... Is there any magic needed to set up the ebsa first? I know the bootp code works fine, we got very small programs (hello worlds) to work fine with it. -Rich unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 11 20:03:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA00689 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 20:03:28 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10696 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 20:03:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:15188 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10476-27109>; Mon, 11 May 1998 22:03:10 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971228-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 14:45:37 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:2192 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971270-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 14:36:10 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yYxV3-0003hP-00; Mon, 11 May 1998 19:40:33 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Jan Magnussen cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Probs compiling 2.1.99 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 May 1998 20:04:12 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 19:40:32 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >| /sbin/genksyms -k 2.1.99 > /usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/signal.ver. >tmp >usage: genksyms [-gwqdD] directory Your genksyms is too old. But you're unlikely to have much joy compiling 2.1.99 with a.out tools in any case. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 11 20:32:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA00741 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 20:32:32 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10700 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 20:32:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:5748 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10712-27109>; Mon, 11 May 1998 22:31:55 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971244-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 15:08:44 -0400 Received: from pump2.york.ac.uk ([144.32.128.12]:45997 "EHLO pump2.york.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971267-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 14:46:19 -0400 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk (mrw103@tower.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.6]) by pump2.york.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA00671 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 19:54:10 +0100 (BST) From: Matthew Wilcox Received: (from mrw103@localhost) by tower.york.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA24764 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Mon, 11 May 1998 19:54:10 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 19:54:10 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199805111854.TAA24764@tower.york.ac.uk> To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Russell, please include this patch for next time you update against Linus; --- Makefile.old Sun May 10 10:47:07 1998 +++ Makefile Sun May 10 13:09:41 1998 @@ -2,7 +2,7 @@ PATCHLEVEL = 1 SUBLEVEL = 101 -ARCH := $(shell uname -m | sed -e s/i.86/i386/ -e s/sun4u/sparc64/) +ARCH := $(shell uname -m | sed -e s/i.86/i386/ -e s/sun4u/sparc64/ -e s/arm.*/arm/ -e s/sa.*/arm/) # # For SMP kernels, set this. We don't want to have this in the config file Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 11 23:30:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA01035 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 23:30:25 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA10718 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 23:30:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:59720 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2611-8489>; Tue, 12 May 1998 01:30:14 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971382-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 17:41:26 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1063 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971346-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 17:32:08 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup3.cymru.net [163.164.160.67]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA06167; Mon, 11 May 1998 22:40:27 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA01602; Mon, 11 May 1998 21:27:06 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id VAA00449; Mon, 11 May 1998 21:27:01 +0100 Message-Id: <199805112027.VAA00449@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Probs compiling 2.1.99 To: janm@kom.auc.dk (Jan Magnussen) Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 21:27:00 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Jan Magnussen" at May 11, 98 07:03:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Jan Magnussen writes: > 1) A file called autoconf.h was missing. I solved this by making an empty > file called /usr/src/linux/include/linux/autoconf.h !! Is this the proper > way? This is normally created by make config/xconfig or whatever your prefered configuration system is. > 2) When doing 'make xconfig' I got many warnings like this ones: > WARNING - broken Config.in! CONFIG_APOLLO was not declared! > WARNING - broken Config.in! CONFIG_MAC was not declared! > WARNING - broken Config.in! CONFIG_TGA_CONSOLE was not declared! > WARNING - broken Config.in! CONFIG_FB_MAC was not declared! > WARNING - broken Config.in! CONFIG_FB_TGA was not declared! > WARNING - broken Config.in! CONFIG_FB_ACORN was not declared! > WARNING - broken Config.in! ARCH was not declared! > WARNING - broken Config.in! CONFIG_AMIGA was not declared! > WARNING - broken Config.in! CONFIG_ATARI was not declared! > WARNING - broken Config.in! CONFIG_PPC was not declared! > WARNING - broken Config.in! CONFIG_PMAC was not declared! > WARNING - broken Config.in! CONFIG_MIPS_JAZZ was not declared! > WARNING - broken Config.in! CONFIG_MCA was not declared! > I was able to configure the kernel anyway, but is it supposed to complain > about this broken Config.in? This happens on all architectures - it is nothing to worry about, and is something that others are looking into (apparantly from what I've been told). > 3) After configuring the kernel, I did a 'make dep' which returned : > /bin/sh: /usr/src/bin/arm/arm-linuxelf-gcc: No such file or directory > usage: genksyms [-gwqdD] directory > make[1]: *** [/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/signal.ver] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/kernel' > make: *** [dep-files] Error 2 > How do I get past this??? 1. You need a new version of genkeysyms - get the latest modules package and compile it up. Now that some people want it, I shall be uploading patches for it. 2. Please read the Documentation/ARM-README - it will tell you what you need to change. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 12 00:00:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA01081 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 00:00:49 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA10753 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 00:00:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:23651 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2168-8489>; Tue, 12 May 1998 02:00:46 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971392-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 18:32:12 -0400 Received: from relay2.UU.NET ([192.48.96.7]:2802 "EHLO relay2.UU.NET" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971445-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 17:44:44 -0400 Received: from xedia.com by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: madway.xedia.com [198.202.232.199]) id QQeoyp03870; Mon, 11 May 1998 17:53:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tonga.xedia.com ([198.202.232.197]) by xedia.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20364; Mon, 11 May 98 17:53:51 EDT Received: by tonga.xedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA00651; Mon, 11 May 1998 17:52:52 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 17:52:52 -0400 Message-Id: <199805112152.RAA00651@tonga.xedia.com> From: Paul Koning Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: asm-arch/arch-ebsa285/io.h X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO io.h for ebsa285 has two declarations for readw and writew (one with unsigned short, one with unsigned long first arg). It's not obvious to me how to repair this... This is in 2.1.99, pre-patch-2.1.99-19980503-1 . paul unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 12 01:44:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA01251 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 01:44:58 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA10763 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 01:45:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:24096 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2401-14830>; Tue, 12 May 1998 03:44:20 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971325-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 20:30:27 -0400 Received: from entoo.connect.com.au ([192.189.54.8]:41734 "EHLO entoo.connect.com.au" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971315-3215>; Mon, 11 May 1998 20:23:40 -0400 Received: from server (brat5200-24.netconnect.com.au [203.7.198.64]) by entoo.connect.com.au with SMTP id KAA03228 (8.8.6/IDA-1.7 for ); Tue, 12 May 1998 10:31:59 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <35579F71.63BC2E9B@cvs.com.au> Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 11:01:37 +1000 From: Charles Esson Organization: Colour Vision Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01GoldC-Caldera (X11; I; Linux 2.0.29 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Corel THing - in full References: <199805082229.XAA01073@raistlin.armlinux.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Yes congratulations to Russell and all who worked on the Linux kernel and the ARM tool chain. I might be stiring the pot but has any one got a view on the future of the Phoebe project. It looks like they are working on another closed OS where Corel are delivering a solotion with an OPEN OS. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 12 17:59:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA02145 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 17:59:54 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA10841 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 18:00:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:20256 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10577-14830>; Tue, 12 May 1998 19:49:55 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971656-3215>; Tue, 12 May 1998 12:36:49 -0400 Received: from relay7.UU.NET ([192.48.96.17]:4232 "EHLO relay7.UU.NET" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971663-3215>; Tue, 12 May 1998 12:34:31 -0400 Received: from xedia.com by relay7.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: madway.xedia.com [198.202.232.199]) id QQepbn19021; Tue, 12 May 1998 12:47:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tonga.xedia.com ([198.202.232.197]) by xedia.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26461; Tue, 12 May 98 12:02:46 EDT Received: by tonga.xedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA04674; Tue, 12 May 1998 12:01:47 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 12:01:47 -0400 Message-Id: <199805121601.MAA04674@tonga.xedia.com> From: Paul Koning Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: compiler error trying to build kernel X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I'm getting further in my kernel build, but still not far enough... Building for EBSA285, there are two anomalies, one minor, one not. The minor one is warning messages on every compile on string.h lines 30, 31, 34, conflicting types for built-in function memset, memcpy, memcmp. The bigger problem is that the compile of net/ipv4/tcp_ipv4.c crashes the compiler (program cc1 got watal signal 6). That message is preceded by the above warnings along with the error message "...include/asm/byteorder.h:27 asm operand requires impossible reload" Removing the -mcpu=strongarm110 makes that message go away but the compiler crash remains. Any suggestions? I'm using gcc 2.8.0 with Philip's patches, and binutils 2.9.1.0.4. paul unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 12 19:33:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA02388 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 19:33:33 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA10850 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 19:33:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:3180 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11199-8489>; Tue, 12 May 1998 21:33:37 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971706-3215>; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:00:18 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:7339 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971701-3215>; Tue, 12 May 1998 13:47:38 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id TAA02308 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Tue, 12 May 1998 19:00:02 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805121800.TAA02308@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: !Linux booter To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 19:00:02 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO hmm, I'm having problems with !Linux 3.24 (Mar 1st) When I try to boot the kernel, I get: Error: can't read bmap blocksin kernel_load Other details: RISC OS 3.5 (Filecore 2.51), partitions: 1: 461 MB Filecore 2: 1 sector Linux Table 3: 21MB Linux Native 4: 20MB Linux Swap .... and some others I'm booting from ADFS::4.3, which is entirely readable by FileCore. I'm currently emergency-booting by using IscaFS and -bootkernel ;-) -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 12 19:58:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA02418 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 19:58:48 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA10855 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 19:59:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:18461 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10497-8489>; Tue, 12 May 1998 21:57:54 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971680-3215>; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:37:57 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:8307 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971704-3215>; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:34:12 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id TAA02403 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Tue, 12 May 1998 19:46:51 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805121846.TAA02403@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: problems with swap in 2.0.33? To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 19:46:50 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi. I've been trying to compile lesstif (I'd like to try to get Netscape working to demo at Wakefield ;-) and I keep getting memory exhausted errors. I created a /var/swap _file_, mkswap'ed it, and used swapon. I'm still getting out of memory problems. Using top while the linker is running shows that it never touches the swap (either /dev/hda4 or /var/swap). I compiled a new swapon from linux-utils 2.7.1, but that didn't improve matters. Anyone know? (Replies this evening would be good since I'm away all tomorrow..) -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 12 20:07:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA02430 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 20:07:31 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10859 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 20:07:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:17448 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10827-8489>; Tue, 12 May 1998 22:07:21 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971702-3215>; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:45:20 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:43863 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971714-3215>; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:42:03 -0400 Received: from succexpr.demon.co.uk ([158.152.208.192]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2027163; 12 May 98 18:20 GMT Message-ID: <3558725F.D6A98EA2@causality.com> Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 17:01:35 +0100 From: "Neil A. Carson" Organization: Causality Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charles Esson CC: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Corel THing - in full References: <199805082229.XAA01073@raistlin.armlinux.org> <35579F71.63BC2E9B@cvs.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Charles Esson wrote: > I might be stiring the pot but has any one got a view on the future of > the Phoebe project. It looks like they are working on another closed OS > where Corel are delivering a solotion with an OPEN OS. Bit of a waste of time, really. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 14 01:21:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA04255 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 01:21:40 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA11054 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 01:22:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:24912 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2637-28556>; Thu, 14 May 1998 03:21:10 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <972157-3215>; Wed, 13 May 1998 18:39:06 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1796 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <972187-3215>; Wed, 13 May 1998 17:19:24 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA30095; Wed, 13 May 1998 22:35:32 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA03111; Wed, 13 May 1998 22:35:32 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id WAA00818; Wed, 13 May 1998 22:35:20 +0100 Message-Id: <199805132135.WAA00818@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: compiler error trying to build kernel To: pkoning@xedia.com (Paul Koning) Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 22:35:20 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199805121601.MAA04674@tonga.xedia.com> from "Paul Koning" at May 12, 98 12:01:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Paul Koning writes: > The minor one is warning messages on every compile on string.h lines > 30, 31, 34, conflicting types for built-in function memset, memcpy, > memcmp. Unfortunately, the GCC developers changed the type of size_t from unsigned int to unsigned long... ;( > The bigger problem is that the compile of net/ipv4/tcp_ipv4.c crashes > the compiler (program cc1 got watal signal 6). That message is > preceded by the above warnings along with the error message > "...include/asm/byteorder.h:27 asm operand requires impossible reload" > Removing the -mcpu=strongarm110 makes that message go away but the > compiler crash remains. Known about. Phil has a solution. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 14 15:00:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA04863 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 15:00:56 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11122 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 15:01:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:42292 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2842-27402>; Thu, 14 May 1998 17:01:08 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <972625-3215>; Thu, 14 May 1998 09:11:19 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:14134 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <972837-3215>; Thu, 14 May 1998 08:43:48 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id OAA04784; Thu, 14 May 1998 14:00:49 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805141300.OAA04784@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: compiler error trying to build kernel To: linux@arm.uk.linux.org (Russell King - ARM Linux Admin) Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 14:00:48 +0100 (BST) Cc: pkoning@xedia.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199805132135.WAA00818@raistlin.armlinux.org> from "Russell King - ARM Linux Admin" at May 13, 98 10:35:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Russell King - ARM Linux Admin > > Paul Koning writes: > > The minor one is warning messages on every compile on string.h lines > > 30, 31, 34, conflicting types for built-in function memset, memcpy, > > memcmp. > > Unfortunately, the GCC developers changed the type of size_t from unsigned > int to unsigned long... ;( This can be worked around by conditionalising your declarations like this: #if (__GNUC__ == 2) && (__GNUC_MINOR__ < 8) unsigned int memset(...) #else unsigned long memset(...) #endif -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From alan@snowcrash.cymru.net Thu May 14 15:07:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA04872 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 15:07:56 +0100 Received: (from alan@localhost) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) id PAA14469; Thu, 14 May 1998 15:08:27 +0100 From: Alan Cox Message-Id: <199805141408.PAA14469@snowcrash.cymru.net> Subject: Re: compiler error trying to build kernel To: willy@odie.barnet.ac.uk (Matthew Wilcox) Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 15:08:25 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux@arm.uk.linux.org, pkoning@xedia.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199805141300.OAA04784@odie.barnet.ac.uk> from "Matthew Wilcox" at May 14, 98 02:00:48 pm Content-Type: text Status: RO > #if (__GNUC__ == 2) && (__GNUC_MINOR__ < 8) > unsigned int memset(...) > #else > unsigned long memset(...) > #endif Actually memset etc should be defined in terms of size_t anyway from a standards religion viewpoint From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 14 19:15:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA05302 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 19:15:31 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA11154 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 19:16:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:54856 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2361-27402>; Thu, 14 May 1998 21:15:31 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <972995-3215>; Thu, 14 May 1998 13:14:22 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:14627 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <973133-3215>; Thu, 14 May 1998 11:45:13 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id RAA05125 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Thu, 14 May 1998 17:03:30 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805141603.RAA05125@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: wait_queue is bad To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 17:03:30 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Just got these messages out of 2.0.33: wait_queue is bad (eip = c0014634) q = c1ff7eac *q = 00000400 wait_queue is bad (eip = c0014634) q = c1ff7eac *q = c1ff7eac ....so i decided to reboot. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri May 15 23:57:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA06934 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 23:57:29 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA11339 for ; Fri, 15 May 1998 23:58:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:35909 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2767-14987>; Sat, 16 May 1998 01:57:51 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <972753-32480>; Fri, 15 May 1998 17:03:04 -0400 Received: from pyramid.businessmonitor.co.uk ([194.205.10.2]:2885 "EHLO pyramid.businessmonitor.co.uk" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <973472-32480>; Fri, 15 May 1998 15:32:45 -0400 Received: from illuminated.co.uk by pyramid.businessmonitor.co.uk (8.8.7/businessmonitor1.3) id UAA19470; Fri, 15 May 1998 20:50:32 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <355C9E2A.5ED041D9@illuminated.co.uk> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 20:57:30 +0100 From: Sam Kington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ARM Linux mailing list Subject: Stopping a PowerTec SCSI drive spinning down before boot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, I've happily compiled a 2.0.33 kernel with the options I want, most importantly PowerTec support. It seems to recognise the card, but by that time the drive has spun down, so it gets nowhere. I get something like this (this is what /var/log/messages had to say after I tried it as a module). Any ideas? ==Dump starts== scsi0 : PowerTec SCSI at port 800D0000 irq 32 dma 2 v0.0.2 scsi NCR53C90 terminators on scsi : 1 host. scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 0, scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 0x00 00 00 00 00 00 SCSI state trail: 00:00:00:00 00:00:00:00 00:00:00:00 00:00:00:00 00:00:00:00 00:00:00:00 00:00:00:00 00:00:00:00 FAS216_Info = { magic_start=441296BD host=c20c5018 SCpnt=c20c3018 origSCpnt=00000000 scsi={ io_port=800D0C00 io_shift=4 irq=20 cfg={ 7 48 B9 0 } type=c3882810 phase=1 reconnected = { target=0 lun=0 tag=0 } SCp = { ptr=c29aadf8 this_residual=100 buffer=00000000 buffers_residual=0 } msgs async_stp=8 last_message=0 disconnectable=0 aborting=0 } stats={ queues=1 removes=1 fins=0 reads=0 writes=0 miscs=1 disconnects=0 aborts=1 resets=0 } ifcfg={ clockrate=28 select_timeout=FF asyncperiod=C8 sync_max_depth=7 } busyluns[0]=1 dev[0]={ disconnect_ok=1 stp=8 sof=0 negstate=0 } busyluns[1]=0 dev[1]={ disconnect_ok=1 stp=8 sof=0 negstate=0 } busyluns[2]=0 dev[2]={ disconnect_ok=1 stp=8 sof=0 negstate=0 } busyluns[3]=0 dev[3]={ disconnect_ok=1 stp=8 sof=0 negstate=0 } busyluns[4]=0 dev[4]={ disconnect_ok=1 stp=8 sof=0 negstate=0 } busyluns[5]=0 dev[5]={ disconnect_ok=1 stp=8 sof=0 negstate=0 } busyluns[6]=0 dev[6]={ disconnect_ok=1 stp=8 sof=0 negstate=0 } busyluns[7]=0 dev[7]={ disconnect_ok=1 stp=8 sof=0 negstate=0 } dma={ transfer_type=0 setup=c387e114 pseudo=00000000 stop=c387e21c } internal_done=0 magic_end=441296BD FAS216 registers: CTCL=00 CTCM=00 CMD=00 STAT=00 INST=00 IS=00 CFIS=00 CNTL1=00 CNTL2=00 CNTL3=00 CTCH=00 scsi0: fas216_abort: command executing scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 0, scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 0x00 00 00 00 00 00 SCSI state trail: 00:00:00:00 00:00:00:00 00:00:00:00 00:00:00:00 00:00:00:00 00:00:00:00 00:00:00:00 00:00:00:00 FAS216 registers: CTCL=00 CTCM=00 CMD=00 STAT=00 INST=00 IS=00 CFIS=00 CNTL1=00 CNTL2=00 CNTL3=00 CTCH=00 scsi0: fas216_abort: command executing SCSI host 0 abort (pid 0) timed out - resetting SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0. SCSI state trail: 00:00:00:00 00:00:00:00 00:00:00:00 00:00:00:00 00:00:00:00 00:00:00:00 00:00:00:00 00:00:00:00 scsi0: fas216_reset: ### It then loops the previous block of output endlessly ### ==Dump ends== Sam -- Home page: http://www.illuminated.co.uk/ INWO Homebrew has moved: http://www.illuminated.co.uk/inwo/ Did gyre and gimble in the wabe unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat May 16 12:25:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA07309 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 12:25:45 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11362 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 12:26:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:32032 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2645-2836>; Sat, 16 May 1998 14:26:21 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <973462-32480>; Sat, 16 May 1998 06:59:16 -0400 Received: from odalix.TeCNeT.DE ([192.129.5.112]:3301 "EHLO TeCNeT.DE" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <973457-32480>; Sat, 16 May 1998 06:59:08 -0400 Received: from avh.ins-coin.de (ppp70.Ins-CoIn.DE [192.129.5.70]) by TeCNeT.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA08573 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 14:25:36 +0200 From: "Michael Bruck" To: "Linux/ARM mailing list" Subject: Linux on embedded ARM Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 13:26:16 +0200 Message-ID: <01bd80bd$70b7a620$460581c0@avh.ins-coin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Is it possible to make Linux/ARM run on an embedded ARM7 (TDMI) core? (no peripherials, only a serial console). E.g. is the basic stuff able to deal with ARM7? Micha unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat May 16 16:53:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA07525 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 16:53:45 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11373 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 16:54:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:29216 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2415-14987>; Sat, 16 May 1998 18:53:57 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <973515-32480>; Sat, 16 May 1998 11:26:08 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:46797 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <973492-32480>; Sat, 16 May 1998 11:21:49 -0400 Received: from treblig.demon.co.uk ([194.222.210.232]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2002242; 16 May 98 15:46 GMT Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 16:41:33 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Gilbert X-Sender: gilbertd@tardis.home.dave To: Michael Bruck cc: Linux/ARM mailing list Subject: Re: Linux on embedded ARM In-Reply-To: <01bd80bd$70b7a620$460581c0@avh.ins-coin.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Sat, 16 May 1998, Michael Bruck wrote: > > Is it possible to make Linux/ARM run on an embedded ARM7 (TDMI) core? > (no peripherials, only a serial console). E.g. is the basic stuff able to > deal with > ARM7? The main Linux-ARM code relies on the use of the memory manager in the ARM 6x0,7x0,8xx,9xx and StrongARM - so the simple answer is no - it wont run on a 7TDMI core. I seem to remember someone was trying to do a Linux port to processors without memory managers (other than the ELKS port which I thuink took advantage of the x86's segmentation); I have a vague memory of a 68K port - but can't remember where I saw it. Its only the memory memory (and a suitable lump of memory) that you need for Linux; a file system is very useful as well :-) Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------- / Dr. David Alan Gilbert | Running Linux on Alpha & ARM \ \ gro.gilbert @ treblig.org | ------- Happy in hex ------- / \____________________________|___ http://www.treblig.demon.co.uk __/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat May 16 17:12:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA07547 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 17:12:02 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA11377 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 17:13:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:5688 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2537-27402>; Sat, 16 May 1998 19:13:01 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <973520-32480>; Sat, 16 May 1998 11:43:36 -0400 Received: from ns.rwii.com ([206.231.106.2]:64563 "EHLO server.rwii.com" ident: "IDENT-NONSENSE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <973521-32480>; Sat, 16 May 1998 11:38:44 -0400 Received: from ns.rwii.com (gw.rwii.com [192.168.1.254]) by server.rwii.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA31667; Sat, 16 May 1998 12:06:00 -0400 Received: from rwii.com (tyson@rwii-gw.j3.org [206.231.106.194]) by ns.rwii.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA08673; Sat, 16 May 1998 12:05:52 -0400 From: tyson@rwii.com Message-Id: <199805161605.MAA08673@ns.rwii.com> Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 12:05:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Linux on embedded ARM To: gilbertd@treblig.org cc: mbruck@rft.de, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On 16 May, Dave Gilbert wrote: > > I seem to remember someone was trying to do a Linux port to processors > without > memory managers (other than the ELKS port which I thuink took advantage of > the x86's segmentation); I have a vague memory of a 68K port - but can't > remember where I saw it. http://ryeham.ee.ryerson.ca/uClinux/ They are starting to run Linux on 3Com Pilots and other 68K based systems without an MMU. This combined with RT-Linux features would make a very cool embedded RTOS! Cheers! Ty -- Tyson D Sawyer Real World Interface, Inc. Senior Systems Engineer Robots for the Real World tsawyer@rwii.com http://www.rwii.com/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat May 16 20:09:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA07690 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 20:09:14 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA11388 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 20:10:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:3669 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2529-2836>; Sat, 16 May 1998 22:09:55 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <973545-32480>; Sat, 16 May 1998 14:41:20 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1176 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <973544-32480>; Sat, 16 May 1998 14:41:09 -0400 Received: (from alan@localhost) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) id UAA02497; Sat, 16 May 1998 20:09:11 +0100 From: Alan Cox Message-Id: <199805161909.UAA02497@snowcrash.cymru.net> Subject: Re: Linux on embedded ARM To: gilbertd@treblig.org (Dave Gilbert) Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 20:09:10 +0100 (BST) Cc: mbruck@rft.de, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Dave Gilbert" at May 16, 98 04:41:33 pm Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > I seem to remember someone was trying to do a Linux port to processors > without > memory managers (other than the ELKS port which I thuink took advantage of > the x86's segmentation); I have a vague memory of a 68K port - but can't > remember where I saw it. ucLinux. The kernel is working quite well, there are some hairy issues the folks are still working on. The big one is that you need runtime position independant output. Alan unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun May 17 22:45:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA08979 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 22:45:24 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA11492 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 22:46:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:11376 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2127-27402>; Mon, 18 May 1998 00:46:30 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <973845-32480>; Sun, 17 May 1998 17:12:33 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:25246 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <973870-32480>; Sun, 17 May 1998 17:05:22 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id WAA08919 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Sun, 17 May 1998 22:37:12 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805172137.WAA08919@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: The Wakefield Experience To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 22:37:11 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Here's my report from the Wakefield show. I should start by thanking Chris Hughes and the Wakefield User Group for giving me free space on their stand. I'd also like to thank Causality for the use of their netlink. I had a really good time & spoke to probably over a hundred people; mainly about Linux. I'll summarise some of the points that were made to me below: * 2 people requested that a driver be written for the Morley card. * One person requested that the installation guide be annotated with explanations of what each step does. Does anyone fancy doing this? * Quite a lot of people commented that they would like to try linux without having to reformat their hard disc. Does anyone volunteer to attempt to resurrect the old partition file support. * A lot of people have got to various steps in the installation, and then got stuck. This may mean the installation guide isn't clear enough or it might be that their hardware isn't supported. It's extremely difficult to tell from the vague reports I got! * A lot of people were interested in generally finding out more about Linux or Unix in general. I pointed them in the direction of various O'Reilly books because I happened to have `Linux Device Drivers' with me. `Linux in a Nutshell', `Running Linux' and `Learning the Unix Operating System' were the ones I pointed out. * The mailing list often confuses some people and some of the more technical postings do put people off. The obvious step is to split the mailing list into two - one for technical discussions and one for user discussion. I propose redesignating the arm-linux@tardis.ed.ac.uk list for users. If this is unacceptable then I may have an alternate solution in the next couple of weeks. * A lot of people don't want to download the distribution over a modem; understandably. Those with the August 97 Clan disc, I've pointed to Phil Norman's installation guide but there are still a significant number of people without any access to it at all. I think I could have sold 10 to 15 CDs at the show, and there's certainly a market for it. We could probably get free adv^W^Wa news item in the various Acorn magazines for those without any Internet access at all. Hmm, something I've just thought of, how about putting Russell forward for the Regan interview? (Back page of Acorn User) * Paul from IMS came up to me to talk about the Peanut (their new portable). He reckons if we can get ARMLinux to work on the A7000 (or was it the 7000+?) then it should also work on the Peanut. Anyone know how hard it would be to port to the A7000? * John from Castle Technology came to the stand to ask how he'd go about writing a driver for his card. I'll be helping him get set up. * Simtec have loaned us an IDE interface to write a driver for. This won't happen soon due to exams, but will probably be done by the end of June. * Cumana were more than happy to talk to us about a driver for their CD-ROM drive that some RiscPC's are fitted with - the one with the strange daughter card. They were also ecstatically surprised that Russell has already released support for their card. A welcome and enjoyable change in attitude. * A lot of people were asking if we are going to support Phoebe and I had an interesting little chat with someone from Acorn about multiple processor support in the Phoebe. Which, incidentally, has a loathesome colour scheme! I told the Archive webmaster `It sounds like fun. I'm sure someone will do it.' Acorn were apparently suggesting to people that they should be talking to us about multiprocessor support - not about RISC OS! * People liked the RISC OS style fvwm2 customisations - thanks to Piers Wombwell for creating them. I'll try and make them available once I have a couple of details sorted out with Acorn. * The light at the end of the PowerROM tunnel appears to have been turned on. Alsystems are sick of getting complaints from their Linux & BSD using customers about this and have come up with a way to do this. This is the subject of my next email. * A section on the website to describe `what I can use it for' that will appeal to the average RISC OS user. Yes, I was plugging the Corel announcement heavily ;-) Again, Russell doesn't need to do this; would someone like to take this on? As you can see, I've been talking myself hoarse this weekend. It's definitely not good to do this by yourself; there were a number of people who wandered off while I was talking to someone else, so respect to Russell for doing it alone at shows for so long. It was a lot of fun doing it though and if all goes well, I hope to be helping Russell at Acorn World 1998. I'd like to thank Ben Dooks (who also helped me lug stuff from my room in York to Wakefield and back) and everyone else who `minded the stall for 5 minutes' while I attended to business elsewhere. And thanks to everyone who turned up and talked to me; it would have been lonely without you! -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun May 17 23:20:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA09012 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 23:20:47 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA11496 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 23:22:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:18992 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2619-2836>; Mon, 18 May 1998 01:21:51 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <973874-32480>; Sun, 17 May 1998 17:47:40 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:25256 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <974043-32480>; Sun, 17 May 1998 17:46:28 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id XAA09002 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Sun, 17 May 1998 23:18:24 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805172218.XAA09002@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: PowerROMmed cards To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 23:18:23 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO This is the suggestion which was put to me: Each driver which supports a card that can be fitted with a PowerROM should check through the modules which are present on the card. It should look for modules of the form `*TX'. This is the only difference between the ROMs. Apparently it would be prohibitively expensive to change the product ID for each style of card. Here are the cards that have PowerROMs currently available. Acorn AKA30,31,32; Cumana 8 & 16bit; Lindis (all); VTi (16bit, +floppy, +user, 8bit); Oak (all); Morley; Castle (not Storm) They don't support Cumana 32, Connect32 or Technomatic. Here are the thoughts which occur to me: 1. Aargh. 2. How easy is it to read the chunk directory from the podule? I did it in a program called PodHacker once; I'll have to dig it out and see how to do it. If I used RISC OS SWIs and it can't be (easily|at all) done under Linux then see suggestion 4. 3. If this code goes into each SCSI module, it's going to be awfully big. Have a compile time `PowerROM support' option which compiles into the main kernel. This should provide a function which you can call, given a podule number, will attempt to extract the first *TX module name and return the name. The driver can then contain very little extra code. 4. Put the detection code into the booter. While keeping Linux auto- detecting is a wonderful idea in theory, if the rules have been broken for the benefit of RISC OS, then I don't see why we shouldn't fix the problem in RISC OS. The booter should be able to pass parameters to the kernel; I know it can for ether cards though I'm not quite sure how it would work for scsi cards. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 18 08:18:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA09492 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 08:18:58 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11601 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 08:19:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:59444 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2910-8044>; Mon, 18 May 1998 10:17:47 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <973958-32480>; Mon, 18 May 1998 02:42:13 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:63395 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <973952-32480>; Mon, 18 May 1998 02:36:05 -0400 Received: from latrigg.demon.co.uk ([158.152.64.157]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2011976; 18 May 98 7:07 GMT Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 08:07:31 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Pringle Subject: RPMS being installed in the wrong place? To: Linux Mailing List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: At Home, 01285 713514 X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.45] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I have an A5000, and I am now getting to the point, where the linux installer will happily get to the installation of base etc. When it does get here it seems to get slower and slower. By the time it gets to the second RPM package it just stops. It then starts paging in and out of virtual memory rapidly. My machine has 8mb of memory, so it shouldn't be this slow. Could it be possible that the linux installer is installing to the RAM disk rather than to /dev/hda3? I have the latest kernel, and the A5000 bootdisk from the linux FTP site, a 320mb root partition (now formatted) and a 67mb swap partition. If I am successful in installing ARM linux, I will write a HOW-TO and put it on my web pages. So far I have not used a PC or any other networked machine. Regards, --- Chris Pringle 22, St. Mary's Drive, Fairford, Glos. GL7 4LQ P.S.Check out My web site at http://www.latrigg.demon.co.uk/Chris/index.html unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From dmf20@hermes.cam.ac.uk Mon May 18 09:43:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: from red.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@red.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.70]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA09556 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 09:43:01 +0100 Received: from dmf20 (helo=localhost) by red.csi.cam.ac.uk with local-smtp (Exim 1.92 #1) id 0ybLVe-0000AV-00; Mon, 18 May 1998 09:43:02 +0100 Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 09:43:02 +0100 (BST) From: David X-Sender: dmf20@red.csi.cam.ac.uk To: Matthew Wilcox cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Wakefield Experience In-Reply-To: <199805172137.WAA08919@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO > * Paul from IMS came up to me to talk about the Peanut (their new > portable). He reckons if we can get ARMLinux to work on the A7000 > (or was it the 7000+?) then it should also work on the Peanut. > Anyone know how hard it would be to port to the A7000? Fairly fiddly, I should think. I did enquire on this list about this a while ago, and was told that it was unlikely to happen. I have an A7000+ now running NetBSD, although it didn't work first time. There are, as I understand, two main issues. Firstly, memory: last I heard ARMLinux does not support RiscPC style machines without any VRAM. Secondly, there are minor differences (which initially prevented NetBSD from booting) in the hardware (IOMD device numbers and so on), not to mention the fact that the mouse and keyboard are PS2. I have been considering trying to get linux running, but it's going to have to wait until after finals, and until I get a second HD. David. PS - What's a peanut when it's in town? And will it run NetBSD? From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 18 11:26:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA09676 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 11:26:11 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11619 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 11:26:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:60505 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2976-27402>; Mon, 18 May 1998 13:26:06 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <973991-231>; Mon, 18 May 1998 06:26:40 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:17972 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <973990-231>; Mon, 18 May 1998 06:26:19 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (LAA00358); Mon, 18 May 1998 11:24:34 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 11:24:34 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: Chris Pringle cc: Linux Mailing List Subject: Re: RPMS being installed in the wrong place? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Mon, 18 May 1998, Chris Pringle wrote: > I have an A5000, and I am now getting to the point, where the linux installer > will happily get to the installation of base etc. When it does get here it > seems to get slower and slower. By the time it gets to the second RPM package > it just stops. It then starts paging in and out of virtual memory rapidly. > My machine has 8mb of memory, so it shouldn't be this slow. Could it be > possible that the linux installer is installing to the RAM disk rather than > to /dev/hda3? I have the latest kernel, and the A5000 bootdisk from the linux > FTP site, a 320mb root partition (now formatted) and a 67mb swap partition. Firstly, you won't need 67meg of swap unless you're doing something REALLY memory-hungry. I have 20meg mem and almost never go into swap. On to your question, I can certainly rule out it installing onto the RAM disc, since the RAM disc is a fixed size. It is possible that, since you only have 8meg normal ram, the decompression of a large RPM (how large is the one it's getting stuck on?) could cause it to swap, but I rather doubt it. Try, when it seems to have stopped working, switching to the virtual terminal (Alt-F2) and do 'cd /mnt' (this is where your root partition will be mounted AFAICR) and then 'ls'. If you see just one item (lost+found) and the installer has already been through one RPM, you can be sure it's not installing to the hard drive. If there is something there then at least something's working. > If I am successful in installing ARM linux, I will write a HOW-TO and put > it on my web pages. So far I have not used a PC or any other networked > machine. Well really the normal installation guide should suffice for installation via ftp. However, since a lot of people seem to have problems installing armlinux (which is a pain in the neck, I must admit) it might be a nice idea for everyone who has had a problem with installation and can remember the solution to collate their solutions and shove a 'frequently encountered problems' file on the ftp site. I'm quite happy to do the collation myself, so if anyone could send me their problems and solutions please do. It might take a while to get it sorted (final exams coming up) but I'll try and get something ready if enough people respond. Bye for now, Phil -- Rule of programming #4: The length of time taken to find a bug is directly proportional to its simplicity. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 18 15:58:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA10021 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 15:57:58 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11650 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 15:57:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:29288 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2575-14987>; Mon, 18 May 1998 17:57:26 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <974044-231>; Mon, 18 May 1998 10:57:27 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:26715 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <974038-231>; Mon, 18 May 1998 10:57:10 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id PAA10007; Mon, 18 May 1998 15:56:15 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805181456.PAA10007@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: The Wakefield Experience To: dmf20@hermes.cam.ac.uk (David) Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 15:56:14 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "David" at May 18, 98 09:43:02 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO David > > > * Paul from IMS came up to me to talk about the Peanut (their new > > portable). He reckons if we can get ARMLinux to work on the A7000 > > (or was it the 7000+?) then it should also work on the Peanut. > > Anyone know how hard it would be to port to the A7000? > > Fairly fiddly, I should think. I did enquire on this list about this a > while ago, and was told that it was unlikely to happen. I have an A7000+ > now running NetBSD, although it didn't work first time. There are, as I > understand, two main issues. Firstly, memory: last I heard ARMLinux does > not support RiscPC style machines without any VRAM. Secondly, there are > minor differences (which initially prevented NetBSD from booting) in the > hardware (IOMD device numbers and so on), not to mention the fact that the > mouse and keyboard are PS2. Right. It would probably be pointless to try to get this going based on the current console code since there is new universal framebuffer code for all machines that Russell is playing with (see http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/general/today.html for details). > I have been considering trying to get linux running, but it's going to > have to wait until after finals, and until I get a second HD. That would be great. If you have a second machine, then you can use a serial console while you try to get the video sorted out. > PS - What's a peanut when it's in town? And will it run NetBSD? As I said above, it's a portable from IMS. It runs RISC OS, but they'd like it to run other OSes too. It's very very similar to an A7000 (or was it a +? I can't remember). -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 18 17:53:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA10141 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 17:53:52 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA11656 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 17:53:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:39698 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2769-14987>; Mon, 18 May 1998 19:53:40 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970990-231>; Mon, 18 May 1998 12:52:58 -0400 Received: from gatekeeper.prl.philips.co.uk ([193.129.162.20]:3904 "EHLO gatekeeper.prl.philips.co.uk" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <974082-231>; Mon, 18 May 1998 12:52:45 -0400 Received: by gatekeeper.prl.philips.co.uk; id SAA19510; Mon, 18 May 1998 18:52:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from prlhp1.prl.research.philips.com(130.141.10.82) by gatekeeper.prl.philips.co.uk via smap (V3.1.1) id xma019481; Mon, 18 May 98 18:51:54 +0100 Received: from prsun11 by prlhp1.prl.research.philips.com; Mon, 18 May 1998 17:55:49 +0100 Received: from marketto.demon.co.uk (herrena [130.141.143.176]) by prl.research.philips.com (8.8.7/prsun11) with ESMTP id RAA23625 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 17:52:37 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <3560673A.AD5BE0CE@marketto.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 17:52:10 +0100 From: Theo Markettos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: PowerROMmed cards Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > > This is the suggestion which was put to me: > > Each driver which supports a card that can be fitted with a PowerROM should > check through the modules which are present on the card. It should look > for modules of the form `*TX'. This is the only difference between the > ROMs. Apparently it would be prohibitively expensive to change the product > ID for each style of card. I don't think so. What would be expensive is to change the ID _retrospectively_, on ROMs already out there or in stock. I don't see why any future batches of ROMs that are ordered can't have the ID changed - getting a new ID is a simple as emailing the nice Mr Glover at Pineapple and asking for one. > Here are the thoughts which occur to me: > 2. How easy is it to read the chunk directory from the podule? I did it > in a program called PodHacker once; I'll have to dig it out and see how > to do it. If I used RISC OS SWIs and it can't be (easily|at all) done > under Linux then see suggestion 4. The only possible problem is you need to know where the page latch was in the address space, or call the loader, which could be tricky. To clarify what follows, the loader is a bit of ARM code stored in the first page of a podule ROM that allows access to the rest of the podule ROM using a page latch. The page latch must be reset to allow the loader to be read out of ROM correctly without the help of RISC OS. Read the following slowly... On bootup, the hardware is reset, so the page latch contains zero, and therefore RISC OS can see the first page of ROM, which contains the loader. If RISC OS has read data from ROM other than in the first page, the page latch may be pointing to another part of ROM, and without know where the page latch is, you can't reset it to find the loader. In this case, you need to call the loader from RISC OS to access the loader code in ROM - you can't simply read the loader from RISC OS's copy of it, because there's no way of getting a pointer to this copy. Therefore, you'd have to use Podule_ReadBytes (IIRC) to read out the loader (this uses the loader), make a copy of it, go into Linux, then call this loader to read out the rest of the ROM. The loader might call a few SWIs (if it is badly written - it doesn't have to), which could cause problems. I don't know which mode Linux runs in, but there might possibly be problems running the 26-bit loader code on ARMs in 32-bit mode. If you know the page latch address, you can effectively duplicate the loader in the Linux kernel. This address should be easily hackable out of the ROM loader code. It would however be different for every type of podule, so you'd need a PowerROM for each of these cards to find it out. Thinking about this, it might still be possible to read the ROM without calling the loader or knowing the page latch address. IIRC a Ctrl-Break does not assert the /RESET line on the podule bus, so if this is the case, the page latch must always point to the first page of ROM, otherwise a Ctrl-Break would fail to identify the podules correctly because it sees the wrong page of ROM. This all depends on whether RISC OS scans the podules on Ctrl-Break, or just on reset. Once you can read the whole ROM image, examining the modules isn't too difficult. The ROM format is detailed in PRM vol 4, and it's merely a method of decoding this - it's not too tricky a task. Apologies if this was confusing - using a loader to load the loader is not the easiest process to describe. Mail me or to the list if you want more info. Cheers, Theo -- Theo Markettos Home: theomarkettos@letterbox.com Liphook Work: marketto@prl.research.philips.com Hampshire UK Web site, including Acorn backup software http://www.marketto.demon.co.uk/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From neil@causality.com Mon May 18 18:20:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA10198 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 18:20:13 +0100 Received: from succexpr.demon.co.uk ([158.152.208.192]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2002985; 18 May 98 17:19 GMT Sender: neil@post.mail.demon.net Message-ID: <2654867A.40AB3254@causality.com> Date: Sat, 19 May 1990 00:34:18 +0100 From: "Neil A. Carson" Organization: Causality Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Wilcox CC: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Wakefield Experience References: <199805172137.WAA08919@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Matthew Wilcox wrote: > giving me free space on their stand. I'd also like to thank Causality for > the use of their netlink. I had a really good time & spoke to probably > over a hundred people; mainly about Linux. I'll summarise some of the > points that were made to me below: I guess I then ought to thank Andy/Ian/Argo for our net link. Lassooing that huge cable 18ft over a 20ft high stand sure was fun, apart from the poor people underneath :) Neil From neil@causality.com Mon May 18 18:21:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA10204 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 18:21:41 +0100 Received: from succexpr.demon.co.uk ([158.152.208.192]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2003046; 18 May 98 17:19 GMT Sender: neil@post.mail.demon.net Message-ID: <265566DF.488B7177@causality.com> Date: Sat, 19 May 1990 16:31:43 +0100 From: "Neil A. Carson" Organization: Causality Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David CC: Matthew Wilcox , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Wakefield Experience References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Hi, The structure of the Peanut is in fact very similar to the A7000+. Basically all that would need to be done to get something running on that (if it already works on A7k+) is to make it work with an LCD screen. As far as I know this involves about two lines of code required to twiddle something in the VIDC. I think David you are the only user of any kind of unix on an A7000+, apart from one machine inside Acorn :) Neil From neil@causality.com Mon May 18 18:39:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA10245 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 18:39:26 +0100 Received: from succexpr.demon.co.uk ([158.152.208.192]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2002999; 18 May 98 17:19 GMT Sender: neil@post.mail.demon.net Message-ID: <265486B7.A51FCAE3@causality.com> Date: Sat, 19 May 1990 00:35:19 +0100 From: "Neil A. Carson" Organization: Causality Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Wilcox CC: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: PowerROMmed cards References: <199805172218.XAA09002@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Matthew Wilcox wrote: ... There is some interesting news on this PowerTec stuff now. I'll send a mail to Matthew about it, work out what's known, and then post a summary. N. From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 18 18:56:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA10258 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 18:56:30 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA11673 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 18:56:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:18544 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3050-8044>; Mon, 18 May 1998 20:55:14 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <974114-231>; Mon, 18 May 1998 13:38:10 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:38849 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <974140-231>; Mon, 18 May 1998 13:33:31 -0400 Received: from succexpr.demon.co.uk ([158.152.208.192]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2002977; 18 May 98 17:19 GMT Message-ID: <265483D7.C83ABA9F@causality.com> Date: Sat, 19 May 1990 00:23:03 +0100 From: "Neil A. Carson" Organization: Causality Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Cox CC: Dave Gilbert , mbruck@rft.de, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Linux on embedded ARM References: <199805161909.UAA02497@snowcrash.cymru.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Alan Cox wrote: > ucLinux. The kernel is working quite well, there are some hairy issues the > folks are still working on. The big one is that you need runtime position > independant output. Can't the ARM SDK cross-compile register relative code? This might do the job very nicely indeed, providing the total machine memory means you can direct-branch for function calls. Neil unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From dmf20@hermes.cam.ac.uk Mon May 18 19:40:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: from red.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@red.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.70]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA10326 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 19:40:25 +0100 Received: from dmf20 (helo=localhost) by red.csi.cam.ac.uk with local-smtp (Exim 1.92 #1) id 0ybUpv-00007H-00; Mon, 18 May 1998 19:40:35 +0100 Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 19:40:35 +0100 (BST) From: David X-Sender: dmf20@red.csi.cam.ac.uk To: Matthew Wilcox cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Wakefield Experience In-Reply-To: <199805181456.PAA10007@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO > Right. It would probably be pointless to try to get this going based > on the current console code since there is new universal framebuffer > code for all machines that Russell is playing with (see > http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/general/today.html for details). Fair enough - it probably won't get started until July at the earliest anyway. > That would be great. If you have a second machine, then you can use a > serial console while you try to get the video sorted out. I'll look into it over the summer - it may take a while though, because I'll have to cross-compile from NetBSD, which means building a cross-compiler and binutils first. Also, it'll have to wait until I've got my ZIP drive working under NetBSD (so that I can free up some HD space.) > As I said above, it's a portable from IMS. It runs RISC OS, but they'd > like it to run other OSes too. It's very very similar to an A7000 (or > was it a +? I can't remember). Presumably, it'll run NetBSD/arm32 then? (It's very stable on my machine at the mo...) David. From dmf20@hermes.cam.ac.uk Mon May 18 19:43:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: from red.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@red.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.70]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA10336 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 19:43:24 +0100 Received: from dmf20 (helo=localhost) by red.csi.cam.ac.uk with local-smtp (Exim 1.92 #1) id 0ybUso-0000S4-00; Mon, 18 May 1998 19:43:34 +0100 Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 19:43:34 +0100 (BST) From: David X-Sender: dmf20@red.csi.cam.ac.uk To: "Neil A. Carson" cc: Matthew Wilcox , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Wakefield Experience In-Reply-To: <265566DF.488B7177@causality.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO > The structure of the Peanut is in fact very similar to the A7000+. > Basically all that would need to be done to get something running on > that (if it already works on A7k+) is to make it work with an LCD > screen. As far as I know this involves about two lines of code required > to twiddle something in the VIDC. So presumably, two lines are required to get NetBSD working on it? > I think David you are the only user of any kind of unix on an A7000+, > apart from one machine inside Acorn :) I'm gradually getting used to that idea :-) David. From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 18 20:11:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA10379 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 20:11:17 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA11682 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 20:11:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:31605 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2089-14987>; Mon, 18 May 1998 22:11:23 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <974157-231>; Mon, 18 May 1998 14:50:20 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1581 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <974208-231>; Mon, 18 May 1998 13:55:20 -0400 Received: (from alan@localhost) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) id SAA14642; Mon, 18 May 1998 18:55:14 +0100 From: Alan Cox Message-Id: <199805181755.SAA14642@snowcrash.cymru.net> Subject: Re: Linux on embedded ARM To: neil@causality.com (Neil A. Carson) Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 18:55:12 +0100 (BST) Cc: alan@cymru.net, gilbertd@treblig.org, mbruck@rft.de, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <265483D7.C83ABA9F@causality.com> from "Neil A. Carson" at May 19, 90 00:23:03 am Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > the job very nicely indeed, providing the total machine memory means you > can direct-branch for function calls. Not even that if you want any kind of swapping unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From linux@arm.uk.linux.org Mon May 18 21:33:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA10468 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 21:33:22 +0100 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA17967; Mon, 18 May 1998 21:33:32 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA05097; Mon, 18 May 1998 19:59:01 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id TAA00403; Mon, 18 May 1998 19:59:13 +0100 Message-Id: <199805181859.TAA00403@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: The Wakefield Experience To: willy@odie.barnet.ac.uk (Matthew Wilcox) Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 19:59:13 +0100 (BST) Cc: dmf20@hermes.cam.ac.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199805181456.PAA10007@odie.barnet.ac.uk> from "Matthew Wilcox" at May 18, 98 03:56:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Matthew Wilcox writes: > > understand, two main issues. Firstly, memory: last I heard ARMLinux does > > not support RiscPC style machines without any VRAM. Secondly, there are But that's not to say that someone can't put it in at some point (not yet though). > > minor differences (which initially prevented NetBSD from booting) in the > > hardware (IOMD device numbers and so on), not to mention the fact that the > > mouse and keyboard are PS2. This could be easy to get round - it depends on the exact differences. > ... code for all machines that Russell is playing with (see > http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/general/today.html for details). I'm glad to see that someone reads it ;) _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | From linux@arm.uk.linux.org Mon May 18 21:33:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA10469 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 21:33:23 +0100 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA17964; Mon, 18 May 1998 21:33:29 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA05117; Mon, 18 May 1998 20:03:23 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00418; Mon, 18 May 1998 20:03:34 +0100 Message-Id: <199805181903.UAA00418@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: The Wakefield Experience To: willy@odie.barnet.ac.uk (Matthew Wilcox) Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 20:03:34 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199805172137.WAA08919@odie.barnet.ac.uk> from "Matthew Wilcox" at May 17, 98 10:37:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Matthew Wilcox writes: > * The mailing list often confuses some people and some of the more > technical postings do put people off. The obvious step is to split > the mailing list into two - one for technical discussions and one for > user discussion. I propose redesignating the arm-linux@tardis.ed.ac.uk > list for users. If this is unacceptable then I may have an alternate > solution in the next couple of weeks. Ok, I asked about this before. I was thinking about having a linux-arm-announce list for info about patches etc that would be limited posting (ie, moderated). However, it seems maybe we need: linux-arm - for general discussion for users linux-arm-tech - for technical discussions linux-arm-announce - for announcements (moderated). These are the names I would prefer, otherwise it's a bit unclear, especially with arm-linux@tardis.ed.ac.uk. There is one advantage to keeping the mailing lists on vger - I know that Dave Miller mirrors the mailing lists internally to transmeta.com... _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 18 22:53:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA10628 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 22:53:35 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA11708 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 22:53:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:28531 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2093-14987>; Tue, 19 May 1998 00:53:33 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <974225-231>; Mon, 18 May 1998 16:54:36 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1949 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <974325-231>; Mon, 18 May 1998 16:32:49 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA17961; Mon, 18 May 1998 21:33:26 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA05088; Mon, 18 May 1998 19:56:18 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id TAA00390; Mon, 18 May 1998 19:56:30 +0100 Message-Id: <199805181856.TAA00390@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: PowerROMmed cards To: theo@marketto.demon.co.uk (Theo Markettos) Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 19:56:28 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <3560673A.AD5BE0CE@marketto.demon.co.uk> from "Theo Markettos" at May 18, 98 05:52:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Theo Markettos writes: > On bootup, the hardware is reset, so the page latch contains zero... Also, RiscOS will reset the page latches (using the loaders reset entry point) after you pass the modules a Service_PreReset (as !Linux does). > I don't know which mode Linux runs in, but there might possibly be problems > running the 26-bit loader code on ARMs in 32-bit mode. It runs in 32-bit modes, and I have to maintain a blacklist of the loader code that doesn't work. It seems that most code does work, but there are exceptions (eg, the PowerROMs of course). Their code crashes if you call it with 32-bit addresses etc. I think that it may be possible to detect the card by the location of the FAS216 (or NCR53C9x) chip. I personally think that the drivers should not load/initialise if they can't detect the SCSI chip where they believe it should be. This would then get around these problems. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 18 23:24:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA10677 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 23:24:02 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA11712 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 23:24:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:9762 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2149-14987>; Tue, 19 May 1998 01:24:04 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <974142-231>; Mon, 18 May 1998 16:58:11 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:65357 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <974345-231>; Mon, 18 May 1998 16:40:52 -0400 Received: from succexpr.demon.co.uk ([158.152.208.192]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2028118; 18 May 98 20:38 GMT Message-ID: <3561E8F6.9943FBF4@causality.com> Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 21:17:58 +0100 From: "Neil A. Carson" Organization: Causality Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Cox CC: gilbertd@treblig.org, mbruck@rft.de, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Linux on embedded ARM References: <199805181755.SAA14642@snowcrash.cymru.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Alan Cox wrote: > > the job very nicely indeed, providing the total machine memory means you > > can direct-branch for function calls. > > Not even that if you want any kind of swapping Ah, I hadn't realised the embedded Linux could swap. How does it currently support shared libraries, presuming it can't double-map pages it just loads the library twice. In this situation I guess a maximum of 8MB (for the branches) would be too imposing a limit. N. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 18 23:24:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA10684 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 23:24:32 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA11715 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 23:24:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:9762 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2710-8044>; Tue, 19 May 1998 01:24:33 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <974115-231>; Mon, 18 May 1998 17:02:51 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1213 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <974250-231>; Mon, 18 May 1998 16:43:19 -0400 Received: (from alan@localhost) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) id VAA18164; Mon, 18 May 1998 21:44:09 +0100 From: Alan Cox Message-Id: <199805182044.VAA18164@snowcrash.cymru.net> Subject: Re: Linux on embedded ARM To: neil@causality.com (Neil A. Carson) Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 21:44:07 +0100 (BST) Cc: alan@cymru.net, gilbertd@treblig.org, mbruck@rft.de, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <3561E8F6.9943FBF4@causality.com> from "Neil A. Carson" at May 19, 98 09:17:58 pm Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > Ah, I hadn't realised the embedded Linux could swap. How does it > currently support shared libraries, presuming it can't double-map pages > it just loads the library twice. In this situation I guess a maximum of > 8MB (for the branches) would be too imposing a limit. The palmpilot used PalmOS style A5 relative universes last time I looked Im a big release behind so talk that with salt. Libraries are mmap()'d specifying 'wherever the kernel wants to put it' which the kernel responds to by "mapping" the page into the user space at its physical address. This works for the frame buffer console too. Xpalmpilot anyone ? Alan unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 19 00:26:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA10826 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 00:26:08 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA11751 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 00:26:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:3168 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2925-14987>; Tue, 19 May 1998 02:26:14 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <974254-231>; Mon, 18 May 1998 18:14:04 -0400 Received: from skywalker.comnet.co.nz ([131.203.1.204]:3124 "EHLO skywalker.comnet.co.nz" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <974253-231>; Mon, 18 May 1998 17:51:13 -0400 Received: from gemini.comnet.co.nz (gemini.comnet.co.nz [131.203.1.215]) by skywalker.comnet.co.nz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA29520 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 09:52:24 +1200 (NZST) Received: from irlgrace1.grace.cri.nz (irlgrace1.grace.cri.nz [131.203.8.9]) by gemini.comnet.co.nz (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id ia746416 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 09:54:36 +1200 Received: from IRL_GRACE1/SpoolDir by irlgrace1.grace.cri.nz (Mercury 1.21); 19 May 98 09:53:23 GMT+12 Received: from SpoolDir by IRL_GRACE1 (Mercury 1.21); 19 May 98 09:53:03 GMT+12 From: "Glenn Ramsey" Organization: Industrial Research Limited To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 09:52:56 GMT+1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Fvwm95 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-ID: <430F5256AC@irlgrace1.grace.cri.nz> X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, A few questions. Has anybody managed to get fvwm95 working? I used the src rpm from the armlinux website. It compiled OK, after installing librplay, but crashes on startup. Since this didn't work I downloaded qvwm, another win95 lookalike window manager, which I did get to work. In case anyone else is interested here's what I had to do to get it working. First off the configure script reported that the C++ compiler couldn't create executables. I figured that this was because I didn't have the libraries installed. Should they have been there? There are two binaries named /usr/bin/c++ and /usr/bin/g++ in the distribution, what are they? I eventually found that gcc 2.7.2.2 can compile C++, so I downloaded libg++ version 2.7.2. The documentation says that on linux it needs libc 5.2.18 or higher. The libc I have installed, from the ftp distribution. is 4.7.?. I installed it anyway. The configure script still reported the error, so I hacked things so it would try gcc as the c++ compiler, rather than c++ or g++, and it worked. With these changes qvwm compiled and so far (2 days) it works well. g -- Glenn Ramsey G . Ramsey @ irl . cri . nz unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 19 00:45:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA10843 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 00:45:25 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA11757 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 00:45:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:49160 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2700-2836>; Tue, 19 May 1998 02:45:27 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <974209-231>; Mon, 18 May 1998 18:24:17 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:28754 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <974362-231>; Mon, 18 May 1998 17:39:53 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id WAA10586 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Mon, 18 May 1998 22:40:56 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805182140.WAA10586@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: The Wakefield Experience Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 22:40:55 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199805181903.UAA00418@raistlin.armlinux.org> from "Russell King - ARM Linux Admin" at May 18, 98 08:03:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: unlisted-recipients:; (no To-header on input) X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Russell King - ARM Linux Admin > > Matthew Wilcox writes: > > * The mailing list often confuses some people and some of the more > > technical postings do put people off. The obvious step is to split > > the mailing list into two - one for technical discussions and one for > > user discussion. I propose redesignating the arm-linux@tardis.ed.ac.uk > > list for users. If this is unacceptable then I may have an alternate > > solution in the next couple of weeks. > > Ok, I asked about this before. I was thinking about having a > > linux-arm-announce > > list for info about patches etc that would be limited posting (ie, moderated). > However, it seems maybe we need: > > linux-arm - for general discussion for users > linux-arm-tech - for technical discussions > linux-arm-announce - for announcements (moderated). > > These are the names I would prefer, otherwise it's a bit unclear, especially > with arm-linux@tardis.ed.ac.uk. I would prefer linux-arm for technical discussion and linux-arm-users for more general discussion. I think this might well fit better with the other uses of linux-, which are for techy discussions, afaik. > There is one advantage to keeping the mailing lists on vger - I know that > Dave Miller mirrors the mailing lists internally to transmeta.com... interesting.. ;-) Though I don't think anyone at transmeta is terribly interested in how well the arm linux installer works. It might be better to keep it in this country since most of our users are in the UK (afaik anyway). -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From pb@nexus.co.uk Tue May 19 11:12:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: from globe (nexusel.demon.co.uk [158.152.30.195]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA11256 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 11:12:45 +0100 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ybjFa-0007yd-00; Tue, 19 May 1998 11:04:02 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ybjFZ-0001se-00; Tue, 19 May 1998 11:04:01 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin cc: willy@odie.barnet.ac.uk (Matthew Wilcox), linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Wakefield Experience In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 18 May 1998 20:03:34 BST." <199805181903.UAA00418@raistlin.armlinux.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 11:04:00 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Status: RO >linux-arm - for general discussion for users >linux-arm-tech - for technical discussions >linux-arm-announce - for announcements (moderated). I think that would be overkill. If people want a list for nontechnical discussion and announcements then that would be fine, but I think linux-arm should continue to be the list for technical discussion on the ARM port as it was originally intended. I'm still not totally convinced an announcements list is merited - people who are interested will probably be reading either one of the two other putative lists or cola anyway - but as I said before I wouldn't stand in your way if you wanted to create one. >These are the names I would prefer, otherwise it's a bit unclear, especially >with arm-linux@tardis.ed.ac.uk. Why not just let the tardis list die? Nobody uses it as far as I can see. If you take it out of MAINTAINERS then we don't need to worry about it. >There is one advantage to keeping the mailing lists on vger - I know that >Dave Miller mirrors the mailing lists internally to transmeta.com... Are you planning a move to Transmeta then? p. From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 20 12:44:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA12004 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:44:22 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA11887 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 23:07:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:10537 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10731-27402>; Wed, 20 May 1998 01:07:27 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <974561-231>; Tue, 19 May 1998 17:54:41 -0400 Received: from skywalker.comnet.co.nz ([131.203.1.204]:1894 "EHLO skywalker.comnet.co.nz" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <974552-231>; Tue, 19 May 1998 17:54:10 -0400 Received: from gemini.comnet.co.nz (gemini.comnet.co.nz [131.203.1.215]) by skywalker.comnet.co.nz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA15155 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 10:01:54 +1200 (NZST) Received: from irlgrace1.grace.cri.nz (irlgrace1.grace.cri.nz [131.203.8.9]) by gemini.comnet.co.nz (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id ba749815 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 10:04:05 +1200 Received: from IRL_GRACE1/SpoolDir by irlgrace1.grace.cri.nz (Mercury 1.21); 20 May 98 10:02:50 GMT+12 Received: from SpoolDir by IRL_GRACE1 (Mercury 1.21); 20 May 98 10:02:33 GMT+12 From: "Glenn Ramsey" Organization: Industrial Research Limited To: tlawton@on134th.com Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 10:02:32 GMT+1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: PPP with ARMLinux kernel 2.0.33 (fwd) CC: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-ID: <5B388538A1@irlgrace1.grace.cri.nz> X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi Tom, > Bearing in mind that I know almost nothing about Linux except for a brief > period spent as a user on a remote system via telnet and the last two days, I > would really appreciate some instructions on either where to get a kernel (I > have a Risc PC StrongARM with 40+2Mb). If they can be phrased as "get this, > type this" I would be very grateful as I'm mainly used to point-and-click > style behaviour and surprisingly an inside knowledge of ARM programming has > helped me very little in trying to use ARMLinux. I was faced with a similar dilemma and no-one on the list had any suggestions. Here's what I did: 1. Got the kernel source. This is explained on the website. http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux/tools.html I got it from www.kernel.org using RISCOS. Its about 6M so took a while to download. Here's the URL. http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.0/linux-2.0.33.tar.gz 2. get the latest ARMLinux patch from the ARMLinux ftp site, the URL is: ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/kernel-sources/v2.0/patch-arm-2.0.33-19980426 Now follow the instructions in the FAQ to compile the kernel. This is nowhere near as straightforward as it sounds. But the instructions are pretty good if you understand them. You need to include PPP support in the kernel either permanently or as a loadable module. I used the module approach beacuse my machine only has 8M of RAM. You also need to enable network support. You configure the kernel by typing "make config" in the top level directory of the source tree (makes life easy if this is /usr/src/linux) which asks you heaps of questions and at the end tells you what to do next. If you're using X windows and have tcl/tk (what's that? it should be there already) installed then you can use "make xconfig" which I prefer because it provides point and click and allows you to see the whole picture. Some kernel options are dependant on others and those that are not available will be greyed out. In particular if you want adfs readonly support then you have to enable the "code maturity level" option and any option that mentions adfs. If you're using a 640x480 display then the xconfig window will be bigger than the screen. You need to change the display to 800x600. You do this in one of the BASIC files in the Riscos !Linux application directory before you boot Linux. I think its called "SetModeNew". 640x480 was the default on my system. If you used "make zImage" to compile the kernel then the kernel binary will be in arch/arm/boot/zImage (or pretty close, I think the documentation with the kernel tells you exactly where). It takes about 1 hour to compile the kernel on my RPC700. Once you have a new kernel compiled copy it to the /boot directory *but do not overwrite* the exisitng kernel, give it another name, I called mine vmlinuz-2.0.33-0426. Leave the old kernel there because there is a chance that the new one won't work. (Took me 3 tries to get what I wanted). To be able to use your new kernel edit the /etc/boot.conf file and make an entry for your new kernel. More details are in the FAQ but the file is pretty self explanatory. Then run loadmap -v to update the bootloader. When you boot linux you can press the alt key when it asks and you will get a menu that should have your new kernel as an option. I found all this a good learning experience but it still a bit painfull, it went a lot smoother when I compiled a kernel on my linux-PC at work. I've just noticed that there are rpm's on the ftp site named "modules" and "PPP" which may have the required stuff in them. Now, once you have all the right kernel bits sorted out, take a look at the PPP-Howto (from www.linux.org) which tells you how to configure PPP. You're probably going to want a browser. As far as I know the options are limited. I use lynx, a text based browser, because its fast, and Chimera 1.7 if I want to see the pictures. Chimera doesn't seem to work very well, it sometimes doesn't load pages that load fine in lynx. hope this helps g -- Glenn Ramsey G . Ramsey @ irl . cri . nz unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 20 12:44:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA12007 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:44:23 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA11873 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 21:52:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:12883 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2509-27402>; Tue, 19 May 1998 23:52:02 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970841-231>; Tue, 19 May 1998 16:43:43 -0400 Received: from [195.152.9.2] ([195.152.9.2]:2080 "EHLO gateway.copymaster.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970821-231>; Tue, 19 May 1998 16:43:07 -0400 Received: from klmc ([158.152.71.143]) by gateway.copymaster.co.uk (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-45194U100L2S100) with SMTP id AAC254 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 21:39:12 +0000 Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 21:53:01 +0000 From: tlawton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: PPP with ARMLinux kernel 2.0.33 (fwd) Message-ID: <1d485d4848%on134th-com@klmc.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: tlawton@on134th.com Organization: Home X-Mailer: Messenger v1.34c for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60j X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, Having bought a new hard drive at the show and obtaining ARM Linux (thanks masses to Matthew), I'd now like to use it on the internet. Running pppd is my current objective but it seems I need some kind of support added to the kernel. The FAQ is not helpful but I'd guess most people have direct ethernet connections (gits, but I'll have one next year I hope). Bearing in mind that I know almost nothing about Linux except for a brief period spent as a user on a remote system via telnet and the last two days, I would really appreciate some instructions on either where to get a kernel (I have a Risc PC StrongARM with 40+2Mb). If they can be phrased as "get this, type this" I would be very grateful as I'm mainly used to point-and-click style behaviour and surprisingly an inside knowledge of ARM programming has helped me very little in trying to use ARMLinux. Anyway, I think ARMLinux is brilliant and is currently hovering at the stage of entering my boot sequence. I've spent much of the afternoon using emacs to compile our yearbook and I'd like to thank everyone who has made it possible for this OS to be made available. Thanks, Tom PS I posted this to the arm-linux mailing list also. However, judging by the mail just arrived, the linux-arm one is probably better. Sorry. -- .... "It's the quitting that really is hard." - Gene Thibeault unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 20 12:44:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA12010 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:44:25 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA11868 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 21:37:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:7504 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2505-8044>; Tue, 19 May 1998 23:37:47 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970800-231>; Tue, 19 May 1998 16:29:42 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:3270 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970796-231>; Tue, 19 May 1998 16:29:19 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0ybt4F-0003wX-00; Tue, 19 May 1998 21:32:59 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: fp_current Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 21:32:59 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, What's the deal with the FP emulator and 2.1 kernels? The symbol `fp_current' seems to have disappeared (it's now commented out in armksyms.c). p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 20 12:44:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA12013 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:44:26 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA11863 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 19:59:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:41248 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3054-2836>; Tue, 19 May 1998 21:59:08 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <974523-231>; Tue, 19 May 1998 14:38:18 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1858 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <974618-231>; Tue, 19 May 1998 14:12:33 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup2.cymru.net [163.164.160.66]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id TAA11071; Tue, 19 May 1998 19:19:26 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA01940; Tue, 19 May 1998 19:12:41 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id TAA00659; Tue, 19 May 1998 19:12:42 +0100 Message-Id: <199805191812.TAA00659@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: New User Help Please!!! To: jepeace@hotmail.com (Jonathan Peace) Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 19:12:42 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <19980519143311.13815.qmail@m2.findmail.com> from "Jonathan Peace" at May 19, 98 02:33:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Jonathan Peace writes: > So I type ADFS::0.$.!Linux -bootkernel ADFS::0.$.rpc > > and the RiscPC jumps to a lowish resolution (640*480?) text > mode screen, with That is correct. > >Press Alt for boot loader <<<(what does this mean?) Exactly what it says. Press the 'alt' key and it gives you a menu for the boot loader. Maybe I ought to add the word 'menu' to it? > >Enter extra args <<< what args? I'll think about putting extra explaination here if you supply a -bootkernel option to the loader... > >Now booting the kernel > > At this point a get a short row of red pixels at the top left of the screen > and the machine hangs. This has now been added to the FAQ. > I guess the video RAM is getting trampled on, but apart from that I'm stuck. It's because your particular processor is probably an ARM710A, which Linux doesn't yet know about. > Do I need to reinitialise the RiscPC in some way? No. > Do I need to partition or setup the HD in anyway to run this test? No. > Is there some sort of RiscOS upgrade I need to make? No. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 20 12:44:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA12017 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:44:28 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA11858 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 19:41:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:41248 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3020-14987>; Tue, 19 May 1998 21:41:05 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970899-231>; Tue, 19 May 1998 13:42:07 -0400 Received: from m2.findmail.com ([209.185.96.135]:30361 "HELO m2.findmail.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <974671-231>; Tue, 19 May 1998 13:19:16 -0400 Received: (qmail 24835 invoked by uid 505); 19 May 1998 17:25:06 -0000 Date: 19 May 1998 17:25:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19980519172506.24834.qmail@m2.findmail.com> From: "Jonathan Peace" Subject: Re: New User Help Please!!! In-Reply-To: To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > On 19 May 1998, Jonathan Peace wrote: > > > OK, OK, I know, I'm doing something stupid, but what? > > Would any ARMLinux gurus out there please help, I do want to use Linux! > > > > My system > > =========== > > I have a RiscPC, with 40MHz ARM710, 16Mb DRAM, VRAM, IDE CDROM, 850Mb IDE HD, AcornFD, Acorn Ethernet adapter, Acorn keyboard, 3 button mouse in mouseport, ROMs marked RiscOS 3.6. > > The system used to have a 486 coprocessor, but I removed it > > There are no expansion cards. > > ie pretty bog standard > > > > Under RiscOS, the machine is fully operational on the network with Ant internet suite and Omniclient to access an NT server over ethernet > > The machine has had no other software installed since it was shipped from Acorn about 2 years ago. > > > > > > What I did > > =========== > > > > First, I've read Russell's downloading ARMLinux installation guide, Phil Norman's installing from Clan CD (even though I don't have > > the clan CD), I've read the FAQ, and the whole of the ARMLinux website. > > > > I've downloaded the 4 ARMLinux utility files, sparkplugged them onto an ADFS floppy, along with the precompiled self-ungzipping kernel, rpc, v2.0.33. > > > > I have transferred root-pc and supplemental onto MSDOS floppies (though haven't got to use them yet) > > > > And now I try and check if my kernel will run. > > > > > > So I type ADFS::0.$.!Linux -bootkernel ADFS::0.$.rpc > > > > and the RiscPC jumps to a lowish resolution (640*480?) text mode screen, with > > > > >Press Alt for boot loader <<<(what does this mean?) > > >Kernel loader v3.21 > > > > >1. Return to RiscOS > > >2. Linux > > > > I select 2, and see > > > > >Enter extra args <<< what args? > > > > I hit return and get the message > > > > >Uncompressing Linux... > > > > then > > > > >Now booting the kernel > > > > At this point a get a short row of red pixels at the top left of the screen and the machine hangs. > > > > I guess the video RAM is getting trampled on, but apart from that I'm stuck. > > > > Anyone else seen this, or can help? > > > > Do I need to reinitialise the RiscPC in some way? > > Do I need to partition or setup the HD in anyway to run this test? > > Is there some sort of RiscOS upgrade I need to make? > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu > > > Seems you're having the same problem as I did. Are you sure you have an > ARM710 fitted, not an ARM710a ??? > There is no other way of finding out than to read the processor ID > register. This only works with machine code, so you should write a small > program to do this. Maybe I'll do this small task this weekend. > > Here's what might happen: > The kernel tries to find out which processor it is running on even > before starting to actually boot the kernel. The ID register of an ARM710 > contains &4100710x (x is the revision No.) that one of an ARM710 contains > &4104710x. This confuses the kernel and it refuses to boot. > > Btw: 1.) It is useful to partition the hard disc BEFORE attempting to > install arm-linux 'cos the partition manager linux uses still doesn't write > partition tables. > 2.) I've got an running kernel for ARM710a > > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu > > Thanks Stefan, one of your previous postings had already given me the idea (I have indeed a 710a) (Isn't the net wonderful!) Do you think your compiled kernel will work on a RiscPC? If so, could you mail it to me? Jonathan unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 20 12:44:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA12019 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:44:28 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA11850 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 19:14:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:11132 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3005-2836>; Tue, 19 May 1998 21:14:40 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <974501-231>; Tue, 19 May 1998 13:42:23 -0400 Received: from post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.39]:34895 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <974694-231>; Tue, 19 May 1998 13:32:23 -0400 Received: from latrigg.demon.co.uk ([158.152.64.157]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa1000599; 19 May 98 17:15 GMT Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 08:28:03 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Pringle Subject: Re: RPMS being installed in the wrong place? To: Phil Norman cc: Linux Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: At Home, 01285 713514 X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.45] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Mon 18 May, Phil Norman wrote: > On Mon, 18 May 1998, Chris Pringle wrote: > > > I have an A5000, and I am now getting to the point, where the linux installer > > will happily get to the installation of base etc. When it does get here it > > seems to get slower and slower. By the time it gets to the second RPM package > > it just stops. It then starts paging in and out of virtual memory rapidly. > > My machine has 8mb of memory, so it shouldn't be this slow. Could it be > > possible that the linux installer is installing to the RAM disk rather than > > to /dev/hda3? I have the latest kernel, and the A5000 bootdisk from the linux > > FTP site, a 320mb root partition (now formatted) and a 67mb swap partition. > > Firstly, you won't need 67meg of swap unless you're doing something > REALLY memory-hungry. I have 20meg mem and almost never go into swap. > Okay, I will reduce my swap space to 30Meg. > On to your question, I can certainly rule out it installing onto the RAM > disc, since the RAM disc is a fixed size. It is possible that, since > you only have 8meg normal ram, the decompression of a large RPM (how > large is the one it's getting stuck on?) could cause it to swap, but I > rather doubt it. Try, when it seems to have stopped working, switching > to the virtual terminal (Alt-F2) and do 'cd /mnt' (this is where your > root partition will be mounted AFAICR) and then 'ls'. If you see just > one item (lost+found) and the installer has already been through one RPM, > you can be sure it's not installing to the hard drive. If there is > something there then at least something's working. I had already tried this, nothing there. So I decided to try it while it was installing the base files, and it was writing them. I then found that it was installing the packages successfully. It did stop again, but if you switch to a virtual terminal and press return it carries on again. Strange. There must be a bug in the virtual console driver. I have noticed this before, when trying to mount disks, it sometimes wouldn't give me another command line, so if you went back to the installer and did something, the command line recovered. > > > > If I am successful in installing ARM linux, I will write a HOW-TO and put > > it on my web pages. So far I have not used a PC or any other networked > > machine. > > Well really the normal installation guide should suffice for installation > via ftp. Well, a) the Ether3 driver doesn't work on the A5000 at the moment in the installer, and b) installing linux on the A5000 can be difficult, as you have to use utilities such as mknod. However, since a lot of people seem to have problems installing > armlinux (which is a pain in the neck, I must admit) it might be a nice > idea for everyone who has had a problem with installation and can > remember the solution to collate their solutions and shove a 'frequently > encountered problems' file on the ftp site. I'm quite happy to do the > collation myself, so if anyone could send me their problems and solutions > please do. It might take a while to get it sorted (final exams coming > up) but I'll try and get something ready if enough people respond. > > Bye for now, > Phil > Regards, --- Chris Pringle 22, St. Mary's Drive, Fairford, Glos. GL7 4LQ P.S.Check out My web site at http://www.latrigg.demon.co.uk/Chris/index.html unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 20 12:44:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA12025 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:44:31 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA11845 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 17:59:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:55304 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2509-14987>; Tue, 19 May 1998 19:59:17 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <974491-231>; Tue, 19 May 1998 12:31:22 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:39554 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971081-231>; Tue, 19 May 1998 11:48:08 -0400 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.162]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA27606 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 17:55:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf1) id AA20713; Tue, 19 May 1998 17:55:03 +0200 Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 17:55:02 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: X compile errors Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, I've tried to compile several X utilities but there seem to be some mistakes in the X-libraries and/or Xlib header files. Compiling is just fine, but when I attempt to run the programms, a lot of segmentation faults is the result. Even fvwm95 from the SRPMS directory produces segm. faults without -s option. Is this a known problem ??? Is it possible to recompile the Xlibs without modifications??? Th@nx unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 20 12:44:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA12029 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:44:34 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA11841 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 17:53:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:26888 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2225-8044>; Tue, 19 May 1998 19:52:54 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <974509-231>; Tue, 19 May 1998 12:08:54 -0400 Received: from m2.findmail.com ([209.185.96.135]:25329 "HELO m2.findmail.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <974511-231>; Tue, 19 May 1998 11:56:04 -0400 Received: (qmail 19356 invoked by uid 505); 19 May 1998 16:01:36 -0000 Date: 19 May 1998 16:01:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19980519160136.19355.qmail@m2.findmail.com> From: "Jonathan Peace" Subject: Re: New User Help Please!!! In-Reply-To: <19980519142330.13232.qmail@m2.findmail.com> To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Cc: rmk@arm.uk.linux.org X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO After looking at the linux-2.0.33-arm-3.diff file, it seems that the ARM710a processor which I have is not defined only the 710, + { 0x41007100, 0xffffff00, F_MMU|F_32BIT , "ARM/VLSI", "arm710" , (the 710a should be 0x41047100 according to Stefan Hanske) hence the debug display of a red line on the screen because of unrecognised architecture. I'm not very well up on compiling the kernel yet; is there any chance this kind of thing will get fixed in a future compiled kernel on the ARM Linux web site (Russell??) Does anyone have a compiled kernel they can mail me for a ARM710a RPC? > OK, OK, I know, I'm doing something stupid, but what? > Would any ARMLinux gurus out there please help, I do want to use Linux! > > My system > =========== > I have a RiscPC, with 40MHz ARM710, 16Mb DRAM, VRAM, IDE CDROM, 850Mb IDE HD, AcornFD, Acorn Ethernet adapter, Acorn keyboard, 3 button mouse in mouseport, ROMs marked RiscOS 3.6. > The system used to have a 486 coprocessor, but I removed it > There are no expansion cards. > ie pretty bog standard > > Under RiscOS, the machine is fully operational on the network with Ant internet suite and Omniclient to access an NT server over ethernet > The machine has had no other software installed since it was shipped from Acorn about 2 years ago. > > > What I did > =========== > > First, I've read Russell's downloading ARMLinux installation guide, Phil Norman's installing from Clan CD (even though I don't have > the clan CD), I've read the FAQ, and the whole of the ARMLinux website. > > I've downloaded the 4 ARMLinux utility files, sparkplugged them onto an ADFS floppy, along with the precompiled self-ungzipping kernel, rpc, v2.0.33. > > I have transferred root-pc and supplemental onto MSDOS floppies (though haven't got to use them yet) > > And now I try and check if my kernel will run. > > > So I type ADFS::0.$.!Linux -bootkernel ADFS::0.$.rpc > > and the RiscPC jumps to a lowish resolution (640*480?) text mode screen, with > > >Press Alt for boot loader <<<(what does this mean?) > >Kernel loader v3.21 > > >1. Return to RiscOS > >2. Linux > > I select 2, and see > > >Enter extra args <<< what args? > > I hit return and get the message > > >Uncompressing Linux... > > then > > >Now booting the kernel > > At this point a get a short row of red pixels at the top left of the screen and the machine hangs. > > I guess the video RAM is getting trampled on, but apart from that I'm stuck. > > Anyone else seen this, or can help? > > Do I need to reinitialise the RiscPC in some way? > Do I need to partition or setup the HD in anyway to run this test? > Is there some sort of RiscOS upgrade I need to make? > > > Thanks in advance > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu > > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 20 12:44:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA12036 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:44:41 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11828 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 16:55:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:19039 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2680-2836>; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:55:21 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <974001-231>; Tue, 19 May 1998 11:40:34 -0400 Received: from m2.findmail.com ([209.185.96.135]:21569 "HELO m2.findmail.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <974257-231>; Tue, 19 May 1998 10:27:58 -0400 Received: (qmail 13816 invoked by uid 505); 19 May 1998 14:33:11 -0000 Date: 19 May 1998 14:33:11 -0000 Message-ID: <19980519143311.13815.qmail@m2.findmail.com> From: "Jonathan Peace" Subject: New User Help Please!!! To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO OK, OK, I know, I'm doing something stupid, but what? Would any ARMLinux gurus out there please help, I do want to use Linux! My system =========== I have a RiscPC, with 40MHz ARM710, 16Mb DRAM, VRAM, IDE CDROM, 850Mb IDE HD, AcornFD, Acorn Ethernet adapter, Acorn keyboard, 3 button mouse in mouseport, ROMs marked RiscOS 3.6. The system used to have a 486 coprocessor, but I removed it There are no expansion cards. ie pretty bog standard Under RiscOS, the machine is fully operational on the network with Ant internet suite and Omniclient to access an NT server over ethernet The machine has had no other software installed since it was shipped from Acorn about 2 years ago. What I did =========== First, I've read Russell's downloading ARMLinux installation guide, Phil Norman's installing from Clan CD (even though I don't have the clan CD), I've read the FAQ, and the whole of the ARMLinux website. I've downloaded the 4 ARMLinux utility files, sparkplugged them onto an ADFS floppy, along with the precompiled self-ungzipping kernel, rpc, v2.0.33. I have transferred root-pc and supplemental onto MSDOS floppies (though haven't got to use them yet) And now I try and check if my kernel will run. So I type ADFS::0.$.!Linux -bootkernel ADFS::0.$.rpc and the RiscPC jumps to a lowish resolution (640*480?) text mode screen, with >Press Alt for boot loader <<<(what does this mean?) >Kernel loader v3.21 >1. Return to RiscOS >2. Linux I select 2, and see >Enter extra args <<< what args? I hit return and get the message >Uncompressing Linux... then >Now booting the kernel At this point a get a short row of red pixels at the top left of the screen and the machine hangs. I guess the video RAM is getting trampled on, but apart from that I'm stuck. Anyone else seen this, or can help? Do I need to reinitialise the RiscPC in some way? Do I need to partition or setup the HD in anyway to run this test? Is there some sort of RiscOS upgrade I need to make? Thanks in advance unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 20 12:44:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA12039 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:44:42 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA11836 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 17:31:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:51308 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2228-8044>; Tue, 19 May 1998 19:31:14 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971097-231>; Tue, 19 May 1998 11:47:10 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:35887 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <974596-231>; Tue, 19 May 1998 11:36:40 -0400 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.162]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA26665 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 17:43:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf1) id AA29534; Tue, 19 May 1998 17:43:29 +0200 Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 17:43:28 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: New User Help Please!!! In-Reply-To: <19980519142330.13232.qmail@m2.findmail.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On 19 May 1998, Jonathan Peace wrote: > OK, OK, I know, I'm doing something stupid, but what? > Would any ARMLinux gurus out there please help, I do want to use Linux! > > My system > =========== > I have a RiscPC, with 40MHz ARM710, 16Mb DRAM, VRAM, IDE CDROM, 850Mb IDE HD, AcornFD, Acorn Ethernet adapter, Acorn keyboard, 3 button mouse in mouseport, ROMs marked RiscOS 3.6. > The system used to have a 486 coprocessor, but I removed it > There are no expansion cards. > ie pretty bog standard > > Under RiscOS, the machine is fully operational on the network with Ant internet suite and Omniclient to access an NT server over ethernet > The machine has had no other software installed since it was shipped from Acorn about 2 years ago. > > > What I did > =========== > > First, I've read Russell's downloading ARMLinux installation guide, Phil Norman's installing from Clan CD (even though I don't have > the clan CD), I've read the FAQ, and the whole of the ARMLinux website. > > I've downloaded the 4 ARMLinux utility files, sparkplugged them onto an ADFS floppy, along with the precompiled self-ungzipping kernel, rpc, v2.0.33. > > I have transferred root-pc and supplemental onto MSDOS floppies (though haven't got to use them yet) > > And now I try and check if my kernel will run. > > > So I type ADFS::0.$.!Linux -bootkernel ADFS::0.$.rpc > > and the RiscPC jumps to a lowish resolution (640*480?) text mode screen, with > > >Press Alt for boot loader <<<(what does this mean?) > >Kernel loader v3.21 > > >1. Return to RiscOS > >2. Linux > > I select 2, and see > > >Enter extra args <<< what args? > > I hit return and get the message > > >Uncompressing Linux... > > then > > >Now booting the kernel > > At this point a get a short row of red pixels at the top left of the screen and the machine hangs. > > I guess the video RAM is getting trampled on, but apart from that I'm stuck. > > Anyone else seen this, or can help? > > Do I need to reinitialise the RiscPC in some way? > Do I need to partition or setup the HD in anyway to run this test? > Is there some sort of RiscOS upgrade I need to make? > > > Thanks in advance > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu > Seems you're having the same problem as I did. Are you sure you have an ARM710 fitted, not an ARM710a ??? There is no other way of finding out than to read the processor ID register. This only works with machine code, so you should write a small program to do this. Maybe I'll do this small task this weekend. Here's what might happen: The kernel tries to find out which processor it is running on even before starting to actually boot the kernel. The ID register of an ARM710 contains &4100710x (x is the revision No.) that one of an ARM710 contains &4104710x. This confuses the kernel and it refuses to boot. Btw: 1.) It is useful to partition the hard disc BEFORE attempting to install arm-linux 'cos the partition manager linux uses still doesn't write partition tables. 2.) I've got an running kernel for ARM710a unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 20 12:44:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA12051 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:44:46 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11814 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 15:16:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:15116 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2741-14987>; Tue, 19 May 1998 17:16:22 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970799-231>; Tue, 19 May 1998 09:36:57 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:59519 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <974482-231>; Tue, 19 May 1998 09:21:25 -0400 Received: from mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14947 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 15:27:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from aixgraf1 (shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.162]) by mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA22020 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 15:27:26 +0200 Message-ID: <356188BB.167E@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 15:27:23 +0200 From: Stefan Hanske Organization: Universitaet Heidelberg X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; AIX 2) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: RE: CL-PS7111 (contains the ARM710a internally) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, I've had problems with my ARM710a too. The only problem is the Processor ID-Register which contains 0x41047100 instead of 0x41007100. I got a running kernel by changing the values in the kernel source tree (one in arch/arm/kernel/head-armv.S and one in arch/arm/kernel/setup???.c, don't known exactly what the second filename is.) Maybe this helps. On the other hand, try to read the processor ID register from RiscOS with a (very) small assembler program. Don't forget to "SWI OS_EnterOS" first to prevent getting unknown instruction errors. Good luck unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 20 15:48:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA12800 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 15:48:49 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA11975 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 15:48:49 +0100 (BST) Received: by nic.funet.fi id AA03519; Wed, 20 May 1998 17:41:04 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <974782-231>; Wed, 20 May 1998 08:02:07 -0400 Received: from mailgate1.uea.ac.uk ([139.222.230.1]:55362 "EHLO mailgate1.uea.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <974795-231>; Wed, 20 May 1998 07:59:30 -0400 Received: from cpca11.uea.ac.uk by mailgate1.uea.ac.uk with SMTP (PP UEA); Wed, 20 May 1998 12:38:15 +0100 Received: from cpca4.uea.ac.uk [139.222.130.4] by cpca11.uea.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0yc7CG-0005aP-00; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:38:13 +0100 Received: from u9530037 by cpca4.uea.ac.uk with local (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0yc7CG-0000uS-00; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:38:12 +0100 Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 12:38:11 +0100 (BST) From: John Houston X-Sender: u9530037@cpca4.uea.ac.uk To: arm-linux Subject: Problems with eth0 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I'm a new user but I've managed to install Arm Linux on my Risc PC 700 (ARM 710 processor) finally but now I'm having problems with my Etherlan 600 card. The card is recognized correctly but for some reason during boot up I get the message "Delaying eth0 initialization" and having logged in the network is unreachable. Attempting to use ifconfig with eth0 gives an error about the eth0 device not existing which is a bit worrying. Have I done something wrong during the installation process or is there something I need to do before I can use the etherlan card? Thanks, John Houston unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 20 18:22:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA13104 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 18:22:47 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA11998 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 18:22:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:30043 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10770-503>; Wed, 20 May 1998 19:54:28 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <977011-231>; Wed, 20 May 1998 11:58:48 -0400 Received: from m2.findmail.com ([209.185.96.135]:27623 "HELO m2.findmail.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <977064-231>; Wed, 20 May 1998 11:54:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 26328 invoked by uid 505); 20 May 1998 16:03:53 -0000 Date: 20 May 1998 16:03:53 -0000 Message-ID: <19980520160353.26327.qmail@m2.findmail.com> From: "Jonathan Peace" Subject: Re: New User Help Please!!! In-Reply-To: To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > On 19 May 1998, Jonathan Peace wrote: > > > Thanks Stefan, one of your previous postings had already given me the idea (I have indeed a 710a) > > > > (Isn't the net wonderful!) > > > > Do you think your compiled kernel will work on a RiscPC? If so, could you mail it to me? > > > Of course I can compile and mail you a kernel for ARM710a but I suppose > it's better to mail a kernel for ARM710 and ARM710a to this mailing list > (if Russel doesn't get angry). Just send me the config specs (i.e. which > drivers should be included, which file_systems a.s.o.) > > > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu > > The config is a standard RiscPC with no expansion cards and an Acorn Ethernet adapter. As for file-systems, I just want to access my IDE FD, IDE CDROM, Network and standard floppy. Is this enough info? I think such a compiled kernel for 2.0.33 would be useful to other people too, so I'm sure Russell would not be upset. (I asked him to do it but I guess 2.0 on an ARM7 is all rather old hat for him!) Thanks in advance. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 20 18:27:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: from sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk (sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk [128.86.8.50]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA13120 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 18:27:52 +0100 Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk by sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk with UK SMTP (PP); Wed, 20 May 1998 18:27:54 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA11995 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 18:22:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:30043 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10308-503>; Wed, 20 May 1998 19:45:07 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <976969-231>; Wed, 20 May 1998 11:11:57 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:42129 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <976913-231>; Wed, 20 May 1998 11:11:26 -0400 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.162]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA03917 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 17:21:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf1) id AA27870; Wed, 20 May 1998 17:19:50 +0200 Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 17:19:50 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: New User Help Please!!! In-Reply-To: <19980519172506.24834.qmail@m2.findmail.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On 19 May 1998, Jonathan Peace wrote: > Thanks Stefan, one of your previous postings had already given me the idea (I have indeed a 710a) > > (Isn't the net wonderful!) > > Do you think your compiled kernel will work on a RiscPC? If so, could you mail it to me? > Of course I can compile and mail you a kernel for ARM710a but I suppose it's better to mail a kernel for ARM710 and ARM710a to this mailing list (if Russel doesn't get angry). Just send me the config specs (i.e. which drivers should be included, which file_systems a.s.o.) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 20 18:33:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA13144 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 18:33:26 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA12002 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 18:33:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:35366 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11167-504>; Wed, 20 May 1998 20:31:56 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <974835-231>; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:56:21 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:14436 "HELO globe" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <974785-231>; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:33:44 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ycBwH-0001cD-00; Wed, 20 May 1998 17:42:01 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0ycBwG-0001Ir-00; Wed, 20 May 1998 17:42:00 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Stefan Hanske cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: New User Help Please!!! In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 20 May 1998 17:19:50 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 17:41:59 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >Of course I can compile and mail you a kernel for ARM710a but I suppose >it's better to mail a kernel for ARM710 and ARM710a to this mailing list >(if Russel doesn't get angry). Just send me the config specs (i.e. which >drivers should be included, which file_systems a.s.o.) If you start mailing complete kernels to this list then I think lots of people will get angry (and Russell will probably drop dead from apoplexy). Either send it in private mail to people who want it, or put it on an ftp site and post the location. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 20 18:47:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA13162 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 18:47:51 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA12011 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 18:47:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:21845 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10691-502>; Wed, 20 May 1998 20:46:46 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <974847-231>; Wed, 20 May 1998 13:24:18 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1374 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <976910-231>; Wed, 20 May 1998 13:05:55 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id SAA03426; Wed, 20 May 1998 18:17:08 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA03530; Wed, 20 May 1998 18:16:55 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id SAA00791; Wed, 20 May 1998 18:17:01 +0100 Message-Id: <199805201717.SAA00791@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: New User Help Please!!! To: jepeace@hotmail.com (Jonathan Peace) Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 18:17:00 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <19980520160353.26327.qmail@m2.findmail.com> from "Jonathan Peace" at May 20, 98 04:03:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Jonathan Peace writes: > I think such a compiled kernel for 2.0.33 would be useful to other people > too, so I'm sure Russell would not be upset. (I asked him to do it but I > guess 2.0 on an ARM7 is all rather old hat for him!) Not at all, since I'm running 2.0.34 to death on the RiscPC at the moment. I'm going to get the complete info off Stephan (?) and integrate it in the 2.0.34 once it comes out. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 20 19:02:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA13206 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 19:02:22 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA12015 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 19:02:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:21845 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10521-503>; Wed, 20 May 1998 21:01:59 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <977048-231>; Wed, 20 May 1998 13:41:40 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:2173 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <977130-231>; Wed, 20 May 1998 13:39:34 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id SAA13167; Wed, 20 May 1998 18:50:11 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805201750.SAA13167@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: New User Help Please!!! To: jepeace@hotmail.com (Jonathan Peace) Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 18:50:10 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <19980520160353.26327.qmail@m2.findmail.com> from "Jonathan Peace" at May 20, 98 04:03:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Can people please line-wrap at less than 77 columns? It's actually rather difficult to read from this SGI. Jonathan Peace > > > On 19 May 1998, Jonathan Peace wrote: > > > > > Thanks Stefan, one of your previous postings had already given me > > > the idea (I have indeed a 710a) > > > > > > (Isn't the net wonderful!) > > > > > > Do you think your compiled kernel will work on a RiscPC? If so, > > > could you mail it to me? > > > > > Of course I can compile and mail you a kernel for ARM710a but I suppose > > it's better to mail a kernel for ARM710 and ARM710a to this mailing list > > (if Russel doesn't get angry). Just send me the config specs (i.e. which > > drivers should be included, which file_systems a.s.o.) You should not send a kernel to a mailing list. By all means compile one and make it available on an ftp or web site. If you don't have write access to a site, there are many people on this list who do. You will annoy everyone (particularly Russell!) by sending a 400k uuencode to the list! > The config is a standard RiscPC with no expansion cards and an Acorn > Ethernet adapter. > > As for file-systems, I just want to access my IDE FD, IDE CDROM, Network > and standard floppy. > > Is this enough info? > > I think such a compiled kernel for 2.0.33 would be useful to other people > too, so I'm sure Russell would not be upset. (I asked him to do it but I > guess 2.0 on an ARM7 is all rather old hat for him!) If you look on the `What I'm doing today' section of the website, you'll see that Russell is working on the 2.0.34pre15 code and currently has that working. Expect 2.0.34 `imminently' - and now that this problem has been pointed out, I suspect it will have a fix in this release. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 20 21:29:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA13425 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 21:29:27 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA12025 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 21:29:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:18200 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10744-500>; Wed, 20 May 1998 23:29:12 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <977199-231>; Wed, 20 May 1998 15:50:07 -0400 Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk ([194.131.104.13]:56374 "HELO golden.argonet.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <977662-231>; Wed, 20 May 1998 15:45:30 -0400 Received: from (193.130.245.208) [193.130.245.208] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0ycEz8-0001rf-00; Wed, 20 May 1998 20:57:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Edwards To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 20:47:34 +0100 Message-ID: <48495977eadge@argonet.co.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Re: The Wakefield Experience In-Reply-To: <199805172137.WAA08919@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On 17 May, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > Here's my report from the Wakefield show. [snip] > * The mailing list often confuses some people and some of the more > technical postings do put people off. The obvious step is to split > the mailing list into two - one for technical discussions and one for > user discussion. I propose redesignating the > arm-linux@tardis.ed.ac.uk list for users. If this is unacceptable > then I may have an alternate solution in the next couple of weeks. Yes I was one of the people that spoke with you at the show and would like to give Linux a try, but find that this mailing list is far too technical. Perhaps others are also put off by it? > * A lot of people don't want to download the distribution over a modem; > understandably. Those with the August 97 Clan disc, I've pointed to > Phil Norman's installation guide but there are still a significant > number of people without any access to it at all. I think I could > have sold 10 to 15 CDs at the show, and there's certainly a market > for it. We could probably get free adv^W^Wa news item in the various > Acorn magazines for those without any Internet access at all. I am quite prepared to reformat/partition my hard drive in order to try Linux out but even after reading the Linux website I am really none the wiser as to what I require for my machine, why I need it or what it does, and there appears to be so many different versions of things, also many differnet ways of installing it it seems. I appreciate that the OS is constntly being updated/improved but for those dipping their toe in the water there needs to be a better way of explaining what is required for what hardware, what/where is the latest stable version for people to download and what devices etc this will support. Dave -- - Roy 'Chubby' BROWN is at - http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/dge/rcb.html - | | ----------- Official Site is at - http://www.chubbybrown.com ----------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 20 22:08:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA13508 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 22:08:25 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA12030 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 22:08:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:54358 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10525-502>; Thu, 21 May 1998 00:07:42 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <977172-231>; Wed, 20 May 1998 16:45:13 -0400 Received: from m2.findmail.com ([209.185.96.135]:5252 "HELO m2.findmail.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <977253-231>; Wed, 20 May 1998 16:21:28 -0400 Received: (qmail 8904 invoked by uid 505); 20 May 1998 20:31:56 -0000 Date: 20 May 1998 20:31:56 -0000 Message-ID: <19980520203156.8903.qmail@m2.findmail.com> From: "Jonathan Peace" Subject: Netscape on ARM To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I notice several people are working on this port. Anyone have an idea when we might see this? Or is this just a pipedream? unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 20 22:40:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA13544 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 22:40:31 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA12038 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 22:40:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:29217 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10466-503>; Thu, 21 May 1998 00:40:08 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <977209-231>; Wed, 20 May 1998 16:52:14 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:8866 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <977288-231>; Wed, 20 May 1998 16:37:24 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (VAA18046); Wed, 20 May 1998 21:49:24 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 21:49:24 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: John Houston cc: arm-linux Subject: Re: Problems with eth0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Wed, 20 May 1998, John Houston wrote: > I'm a new user but I've managed to install Arm Linux on my Risc PC 700 > (ARM 710 processor) finally but now I'm having problems with my Etherlan > 600 card. The card is recognized correctly but for some reason during > boot up I get the message "Delaying eth0 initialization" and having > logged in the network is unreachable. Attempting to use ifconfig with > eth0 gives an error about the eth0 device not existing which is a bit > worrying. Aha! I know that one. That's because either: 1: Your kernel doesn't have the relevant ethernet driver compiled in, or 2: Your kernel has the driver compiled as a module and the module isn't loaded yet. If it's the former, you need to compile a kernel with the correct driver in, and if it's the latter you need to go into /lib/modules/ and do 'insmod foo.o' where foo.o is the name of the module for your ethernet card. Unfortunately you'll have to do this every time you reboot in the module case, so it's easier to shove an insmod /lib/modules/2.0.33/ether.o or similar in one of the initialisation scripts. Say in /etc/rc.d/init.d/network-scripts (the path may be wrong - this is all from memory). This should fix the problem. Hope this helps, Phil -- Rule of programming #5: If a C program gives more than 50 compiler errors, you've missed out a semicolon. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 20 23:05:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA13597 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 23:04:59 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA12043 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 23:05:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:43529 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10408-500>; Thu, 21 May 1998 01:03:57 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <977183-231>; Wed, 20 May 1998 17:35:52 -0400 Received: from mailgate1.uea.ac.uk ([139.222.230.1]:36439 "EHLO mailgate1.uea.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <977266-231>; Wed, 20 May 1998 16:58:20 -0400 Received: from cpca11.uea.ac.uk by mailgate1.uea.ac.uk with SMTP (PP UEA); Wed, 20 May 1998 22:10:41 +0100 Received: from cpca4.uea.ac.uk [139.222.130.4] by cpca11.uea.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0ycG8F-0005LR-00; Wed, 20 May 1998 22:10:39 +0100 Received: from u9530037 by cpca4.uea.ac.uk with local (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0ycG8E-0007YK-00; Wed, 20 May 1998 22:10:38 +0100 Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 22:10:37 +0100 (BST) From: John Houston X-Sender: u9530037@cpca4.uea.ac.uk To: Phil Norman cc: arm-linux Subject: Re: Problems with eth0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Wed, 20 May 1998, Phil Norman wrote: > On Wed, 20 May 1998, John Houston wrote: > > > I'm a new user but I've managed to install Arm Linux on my Risc PC 700 > > (ARM 710 processor) finally but now I'm having problems with my Etherlan > > 600 card. The card is recognized correctly but for some reason during > > boot up I get the message "Delaying eth0 initialization" and having > > logged in the network is unreachable. Attempting to use ifconfig with > > eth0 gives an error about the eth0 device not existing which is a bit > > worrying. > > Aha! I know that one. That's because either: > > 1: Your kernel doesn't have the relevant ethernet driver compiled > in, or > 2: Your kernel has the driver compiled as a module and the module > isn't loaded yet. > Sounds pretty nasty. > If it's the former, you need to compile a kernel with the correct driver > in, and if it's the latter you need to go into /lib/modules/ number of the kernel you're using> and do 'insmod foo.o' where foo.o is > the name of the module for your ethernet card. Unfortunately you'll have > to do this every time you reboot in the module case, so it's easier to > shove an insmod /lib/modules/2.0.33/ether.o or similar in one of the > initialisation scripts. Say in /etc/rc.d/init.d/network-scripts (the > path may be wrong - this is all from memory). This should fix the problem. > Ok, sounds easy enough. Now if I don't have a directory in /lib/modules then I've done something wrong haven't I? John unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 21 00:37:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA13733 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 00:37:43 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA12079 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 00:37:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:44091 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2526-503>; Thu, 21 May 1998 02:37:20 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <977288-231>; Wed, 20 May 1998 18:57:35 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1103 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <977297-231>; Wed, 20 May 1998 18:37:00 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id XAA09775; Wed, 20 May 1998 23:49:18 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA04578; Wed, 20 May 1998 23:49:06 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id XAA01704; Wed, 20 May 1998 23:49:00 +0100 Message-Id: <199805202249.XAA01704@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Problems with eth0 To: J.Houston@uea.ac.uk (John Houston) Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 23:48:59 +0100 (BST) Cc: P.C.F.Norman@exeter.ac.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "John Houston" at May 20, 98 10:10:37 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO John Houston writes: > > If it's the former, you need to compile a kernel with the correct driver > > in, and if it's the latter you need to go into /lib/modules/ > number of the kernel you're using> and do 'insmod foo.o' where foo.o is > > the name of the module for your ethernet card. Unfortunately you'll have > > to do this every time you reboot in the module case, so it's easier to > > shove an insmod /lib/modules/2.0.33/ether.o or similar in one of the > > initialisation scripts. Say in /etc/rc.d/init.d/network-scripts (the > > path may be wrong - this is all from memory). This should fix the problem. Not quite. Try editing the /etc/conf.modules file to include something like the line: alias eth0 etherh and then your module will be loaded automatically. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 21 02:58:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA13915 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 02:58:24 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA12089 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 02:58:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:64876 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2346-500>; Thu, 21 May 1998 04:58:21 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <977321-231>; Wed, 20 May 1998 21:36:42 -0400 Received: from skywalker.comnet.co.nz ([131.203.1.204]:2888 "EHLO skywalker.comnet.co.nz" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <977403-231>; Wed, 20 May 1998 21:14:59 -0400 Received: from gemini.comnet.co.nz (gemini.comnet.co.nz [131.203.1.215]) by skywalker.comnet.co.nz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA02515 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 13:27:35 +1200 (NZST) Received: from irlgrace1.grace.cri.nz (irlgrace1.grace.cri.nz [131.203.8.9]) by gemini.comnet.co.nz (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id ra753627 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 13:29:44 +1200 Received: from IRL_GRACE1/SpoolDir by irlgrace1.grace.cri.nz (Mercury 1.21); 21 May 98 13:28:27 GMT+12 Received: from SpoolDir by IRL_GRACE1 (Mercury 1.21); 21 May 98 13:27:58 GMT+12 From: "Glenn Ramsey" Organization: Industrial Research Limited To: J.Houston@uea.ac.uk Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 13:27:50 GMT+1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Problems with eth0 CC: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-ID: <76A5CE7614@irlgrace1.grace.cri.nz> X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > > > shove an insmod /lib/modules/2.0.33/ether.o or similar in one of the > > > initialisation scripts. Say in /etc/rc.d/init.d/network-scripts (the > > > path may be wrong - this is all from memory). This should fix the problem. > > Not quite. Try editing the /etc/conf.modules file to include something > like the line: > > alias eth0 etherh And if you want more details it is all explained in the module-HOWTO and in the kerneld-mini-HOWTO. g -- Glenn Ramsey G . Ramsey @ irl . cri . nz unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 21 08:09:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA14017 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 08:09:29 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12116 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 08:09:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:21509 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2122-504>; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:09:22 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <977312-231>; Thu, 21 May 1998 02:54:39 -0400 Received: from zaz.kom.auc.dk ([130.225.51.10]:53996 "HELO zaz.kom.auc.dk" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <977301-231>; Thu, 21 May 1998 02:52:03 -0400 Received: from trabant.kom.auc.dk [130.225.51.16] (root) by zaz.kom.auc.dk with smtp (Exim 1.80 #1) id 0ycPQE-0001Fc-00; Thu, 21 May 1998 09:05:50 +0200 Received: from janm.stud.kom.auc.dk [10.0.171.85] by trabant.kom.auc.dk with smtp (Exim 1.80 #1) id 0ycPQD-0007ID-00; Thu, 21 May 1998 09:05:49 +0200 Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 09:05:42 +0200 From: Jan Magnussen Subject: Re: The Wakefield Experience To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <48495977eadge@argonet.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Quercus. Denmark. X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.26] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Wed 20 May, Dave Edwards wrote: > I am quite prepared to reformat/partition my hard drive in order to try > Linux out but even after reading the Linux website I am really none the > wiser as to what I require for my machine, why I need it or what it does, > and there appears to be so many different versions of things, also many > differnet ways of installing it it seems. Hmm. I posted a way (one of many) how exactly to install Linux onto an IDE harddisk including all the Linux commands used and including two scripts used for linking all the RPMs from the ADFS formatted hda1 to the ext2 formatted hda3 partition. If people are interested, then i could post it again. This guide however assumes, that you have already reformatted and repartitioned your harddisk with the proper Linux partitions. Regards, Jan Magnussen http://www.kom.auc.dk/~janm Fidonet : 2:234/181.8 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 21 10:39:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA14095 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:39:38 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12139 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:39:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:21334 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2772-504>; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:39:23 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <977351-231>; Thu, 21 May 1998 05:24:41 -0400 Received: from mail8.geocities.com ([209.1.224.42]:34107 "EHLO geocities.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <977349-231>; Thu, 21 May 1998 05:24:18 -0400 Received: from SunNetra1 ([194.73.245.2]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA28156; Thu, 21 May 1998 02:37:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <35646A72.4BC5@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 10:54:58 -0700 From: Alex Holden Reply-To: alex_holden@geocities.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Edwards CC: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Wakefield Experience References: <48495977eadge@argonet.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Dave Edwards wrote: > > * The mailing list often confuses some people and some of the more > > technical postings do put people off. The obvious step is to split > > the mailing list into two - one for technical discussions and one for > > user discussion. I propose redesignating the > > arm-linux@tardis.ed.ac.uk list for users. If this is unacceptable > > then I may have an alternate solution in the next couple of weeks. > > Yes I was one of the people that spoke with you at the show and would like > to give Linux a try, but find that this mailing list is far too technical. > Perhaps others are also put off by it? I don't think there is a problem with the list as it is; it's not exactly high traffic, is it? I get an average of about two mails a day from it. On another list I am on, I get more than a hundred a day. I went on the kernel list for about a fortnight but I had to unsubscribe because I pay my own phone bills and it was taking forever to download my mail every night, there was so much traffic. If you split it up, there would be so little traffic on the list that it might just die out altogether. If you don't understand something because it is too technical for you, can't you just ignore it? It takes less than a second to hit the delete key, so two seconds a day can't be much to ask. I can't help with any of the rest, as I don't have an Acorn myself. I'm just here because I fancy the idea of building an embedded ARM system running Linux one day. If I can get anyone to sell me a processor that is- everyone I have asked either will not sell to private individuals or want you to buy a minimum of about 25. -- --------------- Linux- the choice of a GNU generation. -------------- : Alex Holden (M1CJD)- Caver, Programmer, Land Rover nut, Radio Ham : ---------- http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1532/ --------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 21 14:45:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA14327 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 14:45:54 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12148 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 14:45:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:64076 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2430-500>; Thu, 21 May 1998 16:45:19 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <977439-231>; Thu, 21 May 1998 09:08:59 -0400 Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk ([194.131.104.13]:64619 "HELO golden.argonet.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <977470-231>; Thu, 21 May 1998 08:45:01 -0400 Received: from (193.130.245.83) [193.130.245.83] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0ycUwY-0004mL-00; Thu, 21 May 1998 13:59:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Edwards To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 13:36:24 +0100 Message-ID: <4849b5d445dge@argonet.co.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Re: The Wakefield Experience In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On 21 May, Jan Magnussen wrote: > Hmm. I posted a way (one of many) how exactly to install Linux onto an > IDE harddisk including all the Linux commands used and including two > scripts used for linking all the RPMs from the ADFS formatted hda1 to > the ext2 formatted hda3 partition. If people are interested, then i > could post it again. This guide however assumes, that you have already > reformatted and repartitioned your harddisk with the proper Linux > partitions. > Regards, > Jan Magnussen Yes please, I would be very grateful as long as it is idiot level, I think that I am going to need it ;) Thanks Dave -- - Roy 'Chubby' BROWN is at - http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/dge/rcb.html - | | ----------- Official Site is at - http://www.chubbybrown.com ----------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 21 17:07:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA14472 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 17:07:10 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12156 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 17:07:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:54393 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3050-504>; Thu, 21 May 1998 19:07:09 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <977570-231>; Thu, 21 May 1998 11:07:11 -0400 Received: from zaz.kom.auc.dk ([130.225.51.10]:65372 "HELO zaz.kom.auc.dk" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <977523-231>; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:35:40 -0400 Received: from trabant.kom.auc.dk [130.225.51.16] (root) by zaz.kom.auc.dk with smtp (Exim 1.80 #1) id 0ycWg2-0004sV-00; Thu, 21 May 1998 16:50:38 +0200 Received: from janm.stud.kom.auc.dk [10.0.171.85] by trabant.kom.auc.dk with smtp (Exim 1.80 #1) id 0ycWg1-0003MH-00; Thu, 21 May 1998 16:50:37 +0200 Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 16:51:07 +0200 From: Jan Magnussen Subject: Installing Linux for dummies ;-) To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Quercus. Denmark. X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.26] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi This little guide explains (in dummy terms?) how to install ArmLinux. It is assumed, that the harddisk is already partitioned with a valid ADFS formatted hda1 with at least 80MB free, and a Linux compatible partition table, created by PartMan. Is is also assumed, that you are in possession of the ARMLinux binaries: mv, cp and ln. Here is what to do: Copy the RedHat/base files to your ADFS hdd as RedHat/base/* Copy the RedHat/RPMS files to your ADFS hdd as RedHat/RPMS/0-4/* ie: RedHat/RPMS/0/* RedHat/RPMS/1/* . . RedHat/RPMS/4/* Make sure that no rpms overwrite each other if the files are truncated. Copy cp, ln and mv-binaries to msdos-floppy Copy maketree, linkbase and linkrpms to msdos-floppy Copy kernel to msdos-floppy as vmlinux or copy it to the ADFS hdd as vmlinux Start linux with .!Run -bootkernel Follow installation until both Root and Supplemental disk is loaded. Press Alt-F2 Type: mknod /dev/fd0 b 2 0 mknod /dev/hda1 b 3 1 mknod /dev/hda3 b 3 3 mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /fd0 mount -t adfs /dev/hda1 /hda1 mke2fs /dev/hda3 mount -t ext2 /dev/hda3 /hda3 cd /fd0 PATH=$PATH:. cp mv /bin/ cp ln /bin/ cp maketree / cp link* / cd maketree linkbase linkrpms cd umount /fd0 umount /hda3 Alt+F1 Follow installation as if you have copied the installation files to the root of /dev/hda3. Do *NOT* format hda3 when asked. ------ linkbase ------ cd /hda1/RedHat/base for i in *; do ln -s /hda1/RedHat/base/$i /hda3/RedHat/base/$i; done cd /hda3/RedHat/base mv skeleton.c skeleton.cgz cd ------ linkrpms ------ cd /hda1/RedHat/RPMS/0 for i in *; do ln -s /hda1/RedHat/RPMS/0/$i /hda3/RedHat/RPMS/$i.rpm; done cd /hda1/RedHat/RPMS/1 for i in *; do ln -s /hda1/RedHat/RPMS/1/$i /hda3/RedHat/RPMS/$i.rpm; done cd /hda1/RedHat/RPMS/2 for i in *; do ln -s /hda1/RedHat/RPMS/2/$i /hda3/RedHat/RPMS/$i.rpm; done cd /hda1/RedHat/RPMS/3 for i in *; do ln -s /hda1/RedHat/RPMS/3/$i /hda3/RedHat/RPMS/$i.rpm; done cd /hda1/RedHat/RPMS/4 for i in *; do ln -s /hda1/RedHat/RPMS/4/$i /hda3/RedHat/RPMS/$i.rpm; done cd ------ maketree ------ mkdir /hda3/RedHat mkdir /hda3/RedHat/RPMS mkdir /hda3/RedHat/base ---------------------- Remember to read the FAQ about installing the kernel (Look for question: Where are the kernel and kernel-module packages?) I will mail the binaries to whoever will need them, or maybe they can be put on the ARMLinux-site (Russel?) for people to download them. Regards, Jan Magnussen http://www.kom.auc.dk/~janm Fidonet : 2:234/181.8 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 21 17:12:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA14476 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 17:12:55 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12161 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 17:13:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:54534 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2914-504>; Thu, 21 May 1998 19:12:57 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <977531-231>; Thu, 21 May 1998 11:34:27 -0400 Received: from post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.40]:65371 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <977545-231>; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:57:29 -0400 Received: from (causality.com) [158.152.208.192] by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0ycX1G-00074R-00; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:12:34 +0000 Message-ID: <3565649A.8EFAB342@causality.com> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 12:42:18 +0100 From: "Neil A. Carson" Organization: Causality Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alex_holden@geocities.com CC: Dave Edwards , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Wakefield Experience References: <48495977eadge@argonet.co.uk> <35646A72.4BC5@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Alex Holden wrote: > I can't help with any of the rest, as I don't have an Acorn myself. I'm > just here because I fancy the idea of building an embedded ARM system > running Linux one day. If I can get anyone to sell me a processor that > is- everyone I have asked either will not sell to private individuals or > want you to buy a minimum of about 25. There was a discussin that went down on comp.sys.arm recently about availability, and a firm was mentioned that would do this. You could try trawling back in the last month with DejaNews. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 21 17:20:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA14484 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 17:19:59 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12166 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 17:20:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:54534 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2122-502>; Thu, 21 May 1998 19:19:45 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <977537-231>; Thu, 21 May 1998 11:34:41 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:4741 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <977562-231>; Thu, 21 May 1998 11:03:07 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id QAA14406; Thu, 21 May 1998 16:17:50 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805211517.QAA14406@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: The Wakefield Experience To: dge@argonet.co.uk (Dave Edwards) Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 16:17:49 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <4849b5d445dge@argonet.co.uk> from "Dave Edwards" at May 21, 98 01:36:24 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Dave Edwards > > On 21 May, Jan Magnussen wrote: > > > > Hmm. I posted a way (one of many) how exactly to install Linux onto an > > IDE harddisk including all the Linux commands used and including two > > scripts used for linking all the RPMs from the ADFS formatted hda1 to > > the ext2 formatted hda3 partition. If people are interested, then i > > could post it again. This guide however assumes, that you have already > > reformatted and repartitioned your harddisk with the proper Linux > > partitions. > > > Regards, > > > Jan Magnussen > > Yes please, I would be very grateful as long as it is idiot level, I think > that I am going to need it ;) Just to remind people that there are mailing list archives available and listed on the web page. Mine are in standard unix mailbox format, and are available from ftp.barnet.ac.uk/pub/Acorn/armlinux/mail/, arranged by month. Some of the other sites allow you to search by author, or whatever. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From tom@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk Fri May 22 09:18:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mailgate.netherhall.cambs.sch.uk (mailgate.netherhall.cambs.sch.uk [193.131.112.97]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id JAA15134 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 09:18:38 +0100 Received: (qmail 5435 invoked from network); 22 May 1998 08:18:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO huey.netherhall.cambs.sch.uk) (1.0.128.152) by 1.3.128.25 with SMTP; 22 May 1998 08:18:58 -0000 Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 09:19:01 +0100 (BST) From: Tom Palmer Subject: Re: The Wakefield Experience To: Matthew Wilcox cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199805211517.QAA14406@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: The Netherhall School, Cambridge, United Kingdom X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.41] Status: RO On Thu 21 May, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > listed on the web page. Mine are in standard unix mailbox format, and > are available from ftp.barnet.ac.uk/pub/Acorn/armlinux/mail/, arranged > by month. Some of the other sites allow you to search by author, Yes the mailbox files are there. The only problem is the permissions on some them make it impossible to download them. Could you chmod 644 them all so that they can be downloaded from the ftp site? Cheers, Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Palmer, Webmaster, The Netherhall School, Cambridge, United Kingdom ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri May 22 20:10:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA15953 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 20:10:36 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA12279 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 20:11:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:51768 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2315-504>; Fri, 22 May 1998 22:09:16 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <977717-29686>; Fri, 22 May 1998 06:27:50 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:61589 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <977787-231>; Fri, 22 May 1998 06:16:18 -0400 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.162]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA12672; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:35:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf1) id AA13882; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:35:36 +0200 Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 12:35:34 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: David Alan Gilbert Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: New User Help Please!!! In-Reply-To: <3562FDF3.551AE090@cogency.co.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Wed, 20 May 1998, David Alan Gilbert wrote: > It would be a lot better to put the kernel on an ftp or web server and just > tell people where you put it. > > Dave Yes, I agree, but I just don't have the possibilities. As you might see, I'm using my University account. AFAIK they just don't allow ftp access to user's home dirs, but I'm not sure. I won't stay here for long anyway so it would be better to upload is somewhere, where it's accessable for some time. Stefan unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri May 22 22:14:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA16054 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 22:14:54 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA12289 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 22:15:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:51768 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2875-500>; Sat, 23 May 1998 00:15:09 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971935-31161>; Fri, 22 May 1998 11:42:41 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:12396 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <974766-31161>; Fri, 22 May 1998 10:31:09 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id LAA15349; Fri, 22 May 1998 11:50:16 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805221050.LAA15349@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: The Wakefield Experience To: tom@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk (Tom Palmer) Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 11:50:14 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Tom Palmer" at May 22, 98 09:19:01 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Tom Palmer > > On Thu 21 May, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > listed on the web page. Mine are in standard unix mailbox format, and > > are available from ftp.barnet.ac.uk/pub/Acorn/armlinux/mail/, arranged > > by month. Some of the other sites allow you to search by author, > > Yes the mailbox files are there. The only problem is the permissions > on some them make it impossible to download them. Could you chmod 644 > them all so that they can be downloaded from the ftp site? Fixed. Please wrap your lines at less than 77 columns in future. Thanks. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat May 23 00:29:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA16222 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 00:29:36 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA12333 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 00:30:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:51768 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2413-504>; Sat, 23 May 1998 02:29:23 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <974742-31161>; Fri, 22 May 1998 11:45:40 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:39009 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <978178-31161>; Fri, 22 May 1998 11:27:16 -0400 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.162]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA18073 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 14:11:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf1) id AA27517; Fri, 22 May 1998 14:11:25 +0200 Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 14:11:25 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: RE X compile errors Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO AFAICS the DISPLAY variable is set correctly to :0.0 after starting X. At least bash says so when `echo $DISPLAY`. This wouldn't explain the problems I have with programs that use keyboard inputs under X with some Xtra libs (more than libX11). Could it be that. Btw, I found `new` X11 packages on the ftp server (didn't look for a long time in the packages). I'll try that ones. Maybe it's fixed there. ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat May 23 00:32:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA16228 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 00:32:23 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA12340 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 00:32:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:51768 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2166-503>; Sat, 23 May 1998 02:32:13 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <977299-31161>; Fri, 22 May 1998 11:46:07 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:39009 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <978179-31161>; Fri, 22 May 1998 11:27:18 -0400 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.162]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA15071 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 13:19:45 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf1) id AA28875; Fri, 22 May 1998 13:19:45 +0200 Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 13:19:45 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: MuPAD sybolic calc package Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, as I know, nobody still made the attempt to port any of the symbolic calculating packages to any form of ARM OS (neither RiscOS nor RiscBSD nor ARMLinux). There is however something developed on a license like that from StarOffice called MuPAD, a free package for Un*x, Linux, Win, Mac ... That's the reason why I actually started interesting in ARMLinux. The problem is as ever, they didn't release the source codes. I've worked with it on PC already and it should not be difficould to port as the number of binaries is very small, just basic I/O functions and a small kernel, most of the other stuff is done in MuPADs own programming language. I already mailed them to perhaps just try to compile it for ARMLinux and requested at least an answer, but I heard nothing of them so far. Could someone of the ARMLinux developer team perhaps send some requests to distribution@mupad.de to ask them for a port???? I would arrange the rest like help to build a cross compiler, get them the needy include files and libs, do the testing... (Here between most of the universities we have special network connections that ARE fast. Th@nx in advance unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat May 23 00:32:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA16227 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 00:32:22 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA12337 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 00:32:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:51768 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2089-500>; Sat, 23 May 1998 02:32:09 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <977256-31161>; Fri, 22 May 1998 11:45:52 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:39009 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <978177-31161>; Fri, 22 May 1998 11:27:15 -0400 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.162]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA16153 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 13:35:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf1) id AA28874; Fri, 22 May 1998 13:35:28 +0200 Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 13:35:28 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Tools Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Got some basic tools compiled like a new version of mount (don't need losetup for that, accepts -o loop=/dev/loop?,offset=xxx) or at last new mtools (with vfat support, good for exchange between Unixes). Mtools suffers from gcc's PACKED bug so you have to change the vfat_subentry struct to use char instead of struct unicode_char. Ask me for a list of changes (Don't know how to create patches). Stefan unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat May 23 00:33:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA16234 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 00:33:30 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA12344 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 00:34:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:51768 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2166-500>; Sat, 23 May 1998 02:33:40 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <977523-31161>; Fri, 22 May 1998 11:46:21 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:39009 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <978180-31161>; Fri, 22 May 1998 11:27:20 -0400 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.162]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA13520; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:50:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf1) id AA13798; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:50:49 +0200 Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 12:50:49 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: New User Help Please!!! In-Reply-To: <199805201710.SAA00741@raistlin.armlinux.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Wed, 20 May 1998, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > Erm, mailing a kernel to the mailing list won't go down well with a lot of > people. > > Is the only change to add that non-standard code for the ARM710a? If it > is, then I'll need to update everything properly - !Linux, and the > kernel itself. (to do it properly, it's not as simple as you have mentioned). > _____ I mailed some people @ ARM and they said the only difference between the ARM710 and ARM710a is the fastbus extension, only a hardware change to allow in a supporting hardware a modified and faster mem access. They stated in the programmers model nothing at all changed. So all there is to do is to change the mask values in the processor recognising routines to 0xFFF0F000 & 0xFFF0FF00 in arch/arm/kernel/head-armv.S and arch/arm/kernel/setup.c . At least that's what I do and it seems to work properly. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat May 23 01:30:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA16290 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 01:30:40 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA12350 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 01:31:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:51768 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2771-504>; Sat, 23 May 1998 02:55:09 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <977980-31161>; Fri, 22 May 1998 15:06:53 -0400 Received: from relay7.UU.NET ([192.48.96.17]:4119 "EHLO relay7.UU.NET" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <978350-31161>; Fri, 22 May 1998 14:00:16 -0400 Received: from xedia.com by relay7.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: madway.xedia.com [198.202.232.199]) id QQeqmr20845; Fri, 22 May 1998 14:21:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tonga.xedia.com by xedia.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27564; Fri, 22 May 98 14:22:37 EDT Received: by tonga.xedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA24056; Fri, 22 May 1998 14:21:47 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 14:21:47 -0400 Message-Id: <199805221821.OAA24056@tonga.xedia.com> From: Paul Koning Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Tools References: X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >>>>> "Stefan" == Stefan Hanske writes: Stefan> Mtools suffers from gcc's PACKED bug so you have to change Stefan> the vfat_subentry struct to use char instead of struct Stefan> unicode_char. Ask me for a list of changes (Don't know how to Stefan> create patches). What PACKED bug? paul unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat May 23 01:33:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA16298 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 01:33:47 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA12358 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 01:34:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:50713 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2355-503>; Sat, 23 May 1998 03:30:39 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <977792-31161>; Fri, 22 May 1998 19:25:30 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1547 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <978148-31161>; Fri, 22 May 1998 17:59:05 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id XAA29621; Fri, 22 May 1998 23:20:48 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA07168; Fri, 22 May 1998 22:54:03 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id WAA03854; Fri, 22 May 1998 22:54:01 +0100 Message-Id: <199805222154.WAA03854@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: PowerROMmed cards To: theomarkettos@letterbox.com Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 22:54:01 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux@arm.uk.linux.org, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <19980522.202014.98@marketto.demon.co.uk> from "Theo Markettos" at May 22, 98 08:20:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Theo Markettos writes: > > I think that it may be possible to detect the card by the location of the > > FAS216 (or NCR53C9x) chip. I personally think that the drivers should > > not load/initialise if they can't detect the SCSI chip where they believe > > it should be. This would then get around these problems. > > That sounds _very_ dodgy. Firstly, IIRC some cards used a 5380 (A3000-style > 8 bit ones spring to mind). Secondly, if I had to design a podule with a > ROM, page latch and SCSI chip in 4K of address space, there are a few obvious > ways to do it, which might be used on more than one card, which would make > telling the difference difficult. Also, hardware probing may well be > dangerous - you may be accessing read sensitive hardware, which could do > nasty things (like generate an interrupt or FIQ) that you're not expecting. Hang on - what I said was 'should not load'. In other words, you're trying to put a driver in that might not be correct for the card. If you don't check that the SCSI chip is there, then you'll read/write it anyway later to initialise it and perform the SCSI bus scan. If there is a different chip there, then yes, there is the possibility of crashing the computer anyway *because* it's the wrong driver. However, what I said was that if possible, the driver should *refuse* to initialise if it can't find the hardware it expects. That way, if your machine *doesn't* crash, then the driver also hasn't been initialsed, and it has been unloaded. You can then try another driver. I wasn't talking about creating one driver for all PowerROMmed cards, since there is little point for that. I would however, prefer it if it didn't crash, and that each PowerROMmed card had it's original idents etc etc, and in light of that, I believe as I have always believed that drivers should not initialise themselves if they believe that no hardware is present. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat May 23 01:38:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA16303 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 01:38:12 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA12362 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 01:38:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:51768 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2391-504>; Sat, 23 May 1998 02:55:54 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971060-31161>; Fri, 22 May 1998 15:10:29 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1840 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <977748-31161>; Fri, 22 May 1998 14:34:22 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id TAA26228; Fri, 22 May 1998 19:55:37 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA06589; Fri, 22 May 1998 19:55:24 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id TAA00572; Fri, 22 May 1998 19:55:15 +0100 Message-Id: <199805221855.TAA00572@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Tools To: shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Stefan Hanske) Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 19:55:14 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Stefan Hanske" at May 22, 98 01:35:28 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Stefan Hanske writes: > for a list of changes (Don't know how to create patches). diff -urN /path/to/unmodified/source /path/to/modified/source > patchfile _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat May 23 01:47:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA16314 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 01:47:30 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA12367 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 01:48:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:51768 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2457-502>; Sat, 23 May 1998 02:56:45 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <977897-31161>; Fri, 22 May 1998 15:36:19 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:12893 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <977941-31161>; Fri, 22 May 1998 15:03:38 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id UAA15966; Fri, 22 May 1998 20:21:16 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805221921.UAA15966@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: New User Help Please!!! To: shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Stefan Hanske) Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 20:21:15 +0100 (BST) Cc: dg@cogency.co.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Stefan Hanske" at May 22, 98 12:35:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Stefan Hanske > > On Wed, 20 May 1998, David Alan Gilbert wrote: > > > It would be a lot better to put the kernel on an ftp or web server and just > > tell people where you put it. > > > > Dave > Yes, I agree, but I just don't have the possibilities. As you might see, > I'm using my University account. AFAIK they just don't allow ftp access > to user's home dirs, but I'm not sure. I won't stay here for long anyway > so it would be better to upload is somewhere, where it's accessable for > some time. I am (currently) able to provide a limited amount of ftp space on ftp.barnet.ac.uk. The situation should be improving RSN. Some Pointy Haired stuff needs sorting first. When it does, everything will move, including the mailing list archives. More details when it happens though. So please send me this precompiled kernel, uuencoded, and I will put it in place. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat May 23 01:51:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA16319 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 01:51:45 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA12371 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 01:52:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:51768 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2740-502>; Sat, 23 May 1998 02:57:01 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971722-31161>; Fri, 22 May 1998 17:07:49 -0400 Received: from post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.40]:62913 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <977936-31161>; Fri, 22 May 1998 15:15:48 -0400 Received: from (marketto.demon.co.uk) [194.222.32.5] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0ycxd5-0001zb-00; Fri, 22 May 1998 19:37:24 +0000 To: linux@arm.uk.linux.org Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu From: arm-linux@marketto.demon.co.uk (Theo Markettos) Subject: Re: PowerROMmed cards Reply-To: theomarkettos@letterbox.com In-Reply-To: <199805181856.TAA00390@raistlin.armlinux.org> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 20:20:14 +0100 Message-ID: <19980522.202014.98@marketto.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: TTFN version 0.41 (Acorn RISC OS) X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60g X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Mon, 18 May 1998 19:56:28 +0100 (BST), linux@arm.uk.linux.org said: > Theo Markettos writes: > It runs in 32-bit modes, and I have to maintain a blacklist of the loader > code that doesn't work. It seems that most code does work, but there are > exceptions (eg, the PowerROMs of course). Their code crashes if you call > it with 32-bit addresses etc. > > I think that it may be possible to detect the card by the location of the > FAS216 (or NCR53C9x) chip. I personally think that the drivers should > not load/initialise if they can't detect the SCSI chip where they believe > it should be. This would then get around these problems. That sounds _very_ dodgy. Firstly, IIRC some cards used a 5380 (A3000-style 8 bit ones spring to mind). Secondly, if I had to design a podule with a ROM, page latch and SCSI chip in 4K of address space, there are a few obvious ways to do it, which might be used on more than one card, which would make telling the difference difficult. Also, hardware probing may well be dangerous - you may be accessing read sensitive hardware, which could do nasty things (like generate an interrupt or FIQ) that you're not expecting. A better (IMHO) solution I would propose would be to find out where the page latch for each card is (should be hackable out of the PowerROM or original loader), and then drive the ROM paging directly. If the loader doesn't do funny things, like map even pages to the first half of ROM and odd pages to the second, it should be a case of bits 0 - x-1 of the ROM space address, where x=LOG2(ROM size), are part of the podule address, and bits x - x+7 are the page register value. If you hack the Risc OS loader, you can also find out the purpose of any other latched bits (eg reset, interrupt control), and how they should be set for normal operation. -- Theo Markettos Home: theomarkettos@letterbox.com Liphook Work: marketto@prl.research.philips.com Hampshire UK Web site, including Acorn backup software http://www.marketto.demon.co.uk/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat May 23 13:49:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA16833 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 13:49:40 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12396 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 13:50:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:16508 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2101-502>; Sat, 23 May 1998 15:49:56 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <978036-31161>; Sat, 23 May 1998 08:24:36 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:15379 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <978033-31161>; Sat, 23 May 1998 08:24:23 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id NAA16826 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Sat, 23 May 1998 13:48:08 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805231248.NAA16826@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: ARM710a kernel available To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 13:48:07 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Thanks to Stefan Hanske, there is now a kernel available for those who have had problems with the ARM710a. ftp://ftp.barnet.ac.uk/pub/Acorn/armlinux/arm710a The cause of this problem appears to be an errata in the ARM A.R.M. and Russell now has this fixed in his source tree. BTW, anyone notice how much smaller the .103 diff is compared to all the others? The integration looks to be going well. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat May 23 16:26:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA17114 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 16:26:36 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12405 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 16:27:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:21509 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2958-504>; Sat, 23 May 1998 18:26:37 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <978077-31161>; Sat, 23 May 1998 11:00:51 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:56973 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <978069-31161>; Sat, 23 May 1998 11:00:22 -0400 Received: from (latrigg.demon.co.uk) [158.152.64.157] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0ydGAg-0005nW-00; Sat, 23 May 1998 16:25:20 +0100 Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 16:25:26 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Pringle Subject: ncurses - Help Russ To: Linux Mailing List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: At Home, 01285 713514 X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.45] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I am installing linux on an A5000. I have got the installer working. It starts to install the RPM packages, until it gets to ncurses. It then gets to the end of that and stops. If you go to a virtual console and press return, that will not come up with another command line. It completely screws the machine. What can I do to prevent/get around this. I have thought we were doing well until now. I have had three attemps, all with the same result. I have the latest A5K kernel, the latest (not alpha) version of partman, and the previous version of the supplemental disk. I also have a copy of the a5k bootdisk, that is in the disks directory on the ftp site. All help is appreciated. Regards, --- Chris Pringle 22, St. Mary's Drive, Fairford, Glos. GL7 4LQ P.S.Check out My web site at http://www.latrigg.demon.co.uk/Chris/index.html unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat May 23 16:32:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA17144 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 16:32:11 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12409 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 16:32:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:2570 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2958-503>; Sat, 23 May 1998 18:32:39 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <978074-31161>; Sat, 23 May 1998 11:06:55 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:17053 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <978069-31161>; Sat, 23 May 1998 11:06:46 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id QAA17136; Sat, 23 May 1998 16:30:59 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805231530.QAA17136@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ncurses - Help Russ To: cpringle@latrigg.demon.co.uk (Chris Pringle) Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 16:30:58 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Chris Pringle" at May 23, 98 04:25:26 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Chris Pringle > > I am installing linux on an A5000. I have got the installer working. It > starts to install the RPM packages, until it gets to ncurses. It then gets > to the end of that and stops. If you go to a virtual console and press return, > that will not come up with another command line. It completely screws the > machine. What can I do to prevent/get around this. I have thought we were doing > well until now. I have had three attemps, all with the same result. I have the > latest A5K kernel, the latest (not alpha) version of partman, and the previous > version of the supplemental disk. I also have a copy of the a5k bootdisk, that > is in the disks directory on the ftp site. All help is appreciated. How about only installing the really basic essential packages with the installer and then manually (with rpm) installing the other packages you want later? -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat May 23 19:47:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA17313 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 19:47:17 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA12421 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 19:47:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:60459 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2112-500>; Sat, 23 May 1998 21:47:49 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <978110-31161>; Sat, 23 May 1998 14:21:36 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:64274 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <978109-31161>; Sat, 23 May 1998 14:21:22 -0400 Received: from marketto.demon.co.uk ([194.222.32.5]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2020920; 23 May 98 18:44 GMT To: linux@arm.uk.linux.org Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu From: Theo Markettos Subject: Re: PowerROMmed cards Reply-To: theomarkettos@letterbox.com In-Reply-To: <199805222154.WAA03854@raistlin.armlinux.org> Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 15:17:30 +0100 Message-ID: <19980523.151730.27@marketto.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: TTFN version 0.42 (Acorn RISC OS) X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60j X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Fri, 22 May 1998 22:54:01 +0100 (BST), linux@arm.uk.linux.org said: > Theo Markettos writes: > > > I think that it may be possible to detect the card by the location of > > > the FAS216 (or NCR53C9x) chip. I personally think that the drivers > > > should not load/initialise if they can't detect the SCSI chip where > > > they believe it should be. This would then get around these problems. > > > > That sounds _very_ dodgy. Firstly, IIRC some cards used a 5380 > > (A3000-style 8 bit ones spring to mind). Secondly, if I had to design a > > podule with a ROM, page latch and SCSI chip in 4K of address space, there > > are a few obvious ways to do it, which might be used on more than one > > card, which would make telling the difference difficult. Also, hardware > > probing may well be dangerous - you may be accessing read sensitive > > hardware, which could do nasty things (like generate an interrupt or FIQ) > > that you're not expecting. > > Hang on - what I said was 'should not load'. In other words, you're trying > to put a driver in that might not be correct for the card. If you don't > check that the SCSI chip is there, then you'll read/write it anyway later > to initialise it and perform the SCSI bus scan. I see - so you mean that once you've worked out what card it is and therefore what the memory map is, you then check to see whether the chip is where you think it is, and if it's not then you don't initialise the driver. That makes sense - it's something that might be handy for all podules, SCSI or not. If there's, say, a bad connection with the podule bus, you might be able to read the ROM without problems, then find that you couldn't access the driver chip. If this was in the middle of some critical data transfer the driver might hang waiting for a ready signal that never came because the chip wasn't being read and rubbish was returned instead. Apologies if this already happens for most drivers - I'm speaking as a RISC OS and hardware person with a users knowledge of Unix, not a Unix hacker. Cheers, Theo -- Theo Markettos Home: theomarkettos@letterbox.com Liphook Work: marketto@prl.research.philips.com Hampshire UK Web site, including Acorn backup software http://www.marketto.demon.co.uk/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat May 23 20:17:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA17331 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 20:17:19 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA12425 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 20:18:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:41776 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2390-504>; Sat, 23 May 1998 22:16:56 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <978122-31161>; Sat, 23 May 1998 14:47:44 -0400 Received: from post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.39]:49640 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <978133-31161>; Sat, 23 May 1998 14:47:06 -0400 Received: from latrigg.demon.co.uk ([158.152.64.157]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa1006167; 23 May 98 19:11 GMT Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 20:12:04 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Pringle Subject: Could somebody send me "rpm" and "tar" To: Linux Mailing List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: At Home, 01285 713514 X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.45] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Could somebody who has installed ARM linux please send me rpm and tar ASAP. Thanks in advance. Regards, --- Chris Pringle 22, St. Mary's Drive, Fairford, Glos. GL7 4LQ P.S.Check out My web site at http://www.latrigg.demon.co.uk/Chris/index.html unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat May 23 23:51:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA17588 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 23:51:39 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA12468 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 23:52:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:26120 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2575-504>; Sun, 24 May 1998 01:52:13 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970854-31161>; Sat, 23 May 1998 18:19:35 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:3603 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970921-31161>; Sat, 23 May 1998 18:18:52 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0ydKLO-0004A0-00; Sat, 23 May 1998 20:52:38 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: theomarkettos@letterbox.com cc: linux@arm.uk.linux.org, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: PowerROMmed cards In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 23 May 1998 15:17:30 BST." <19980523.151730.27@marketto.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 20:52:38 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >I see - so you mean that once you've worked out what card it is and >therefore what the memory map is, you then check to see whether the chip is >where you think it is, and if it's not then you don't initialise the driver. [...] >driver chip. If this was in the middle of some critical data transfer the >driver might hang waiting for a ready signal that never came because the chip >wasn't being read and rubbish was returned instead. > >Apologies if this already happens for most drivers - I'm speaking as a RISC Most drivers do at least make an attempt at not locking the machine if something goes wrong. If the chip was missing then it would be fairly obvious the first time you tried to talk to it. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun May 24 01:30:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA17678 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 01:30:11 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA12477 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 01:30:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:20278 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2996-504>; Sun, 24 May 1998 03:30:38 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971326-31161>; Sat, 23 May 1998 19:53:04 -0400 Received: from violet.csi.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.8.58]:54099 "EHLO violet.csi.cam.ac.uk" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <974544-31161>; Fri, 22 May 1998 10:33:13 -0400 Received: from mup.pet.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.209.211] ident=kjm25) by violet.csi.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.92 #1) for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu id 0ycsT4-0004yb-00; Fri, 22 May 1998 15:06:42 +0100 Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 15:07:01 +0100 (BST) From: Kieran Mansley Subject: Re: New User Help Please!!! To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Peterhouse, Cambridge. X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.41] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Fri 22 May, Stefan Hanske wrote: > On Wed, 20 May 1998, David Alan Gilbert wrote: > > > It would be a lot better to put the kernel on an ftp or web server and just > > tell people where you put it. > > > > Dave > Yes, I agree, but I just don't have the possibilities. As you might see, > I'm using my University account. AFAIK they just don't allow ftp access > to user's home dirs, but I'm not sure. I won't stay here for long anyway > so it would be better to upload is somewhere, where it's accessable for > some time. > If there isn't already a central repositry then I'm happy to put some space aside for it on my machine as anonymous ftp. Unless anyone else has a better location that is... Kieran -- Kieran Mansley, Peterhouse, Cambridge. CB2 1RD kjm25@cam.ac.uk http://mup.pet.cam.ac.uk/ I tell all my friends but they never believe me. They think that I've finally lost it completely. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun May 24 12:54:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA18217 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 12:54:50 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12510 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 12:55:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:54034 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2932-503>; Sun, 24 May 1998 14:55:33 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970993-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 07:24:23 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1926 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970985-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 07:24:07 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id MAA25065; Sun, 24 May 1998 12:54:31 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11176; Sun, 24 May 1998 09:44:43 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id JAA00357; Sun, 24 May 1998 09:44:42 +0100 Message-Id: <199805240844.JAA00357@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: New User Help Please!!! To: kjm25@cam.ac.uk (Kieran Mansley) Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 09:44:41 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Kieran Mansley" at May 22, 98 03:07:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Kieran Mansley writes: > > On Fri 22 May, Stefan Hanske wrote: > > On Wed, 20 May 1998, David Alan Gilbert wrote: > > > > > It would be a lot better to put the kernel on an ftp or web server and just > > > tell people where you put it. > > > > > > Dave > > Yes, I agree, but I just don't have the possibilities. As you might see, > > I'm using my University account. AFAIK they just don't allow ftp access > > to user's home dirs, but I'm not sure. I won't stay here for long anyway > > so it would be better to upload is somewhere, where it's accessable for > > some time. > > > > If there isn't already a central repositry then I'm happy to put some space > aside for it on my machine as anonymous ftp. Unless anyone else has a better > location that is... On ftp.arm.uk.linux.org? _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun May 24 12:54:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA18218 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 12:54:50 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12513 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 12:55:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:54034 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2519-503>; Sun, 24 May 1998 14:55:34 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970985-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 07:24:25 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1939 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970990-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 07:24:10 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id MAA25069; Sun, 24 May 1998 12:54:36 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA10727; Sat, 23 May 1998 22:39:19 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id WAA25170; Sat, 23 May 1998 22:39:11 +0100 Message-Id: <199805232139.WAA25170@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: ncurses - Help Russ To: cpringle@latrigg.demon.co.uk (Chris Pringle) Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 22:39:09 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Chris Pringle" at May 23, 98 04:25:26 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Chris Pringle writes: > I am installing linux on an A5000. I have got the installer working. It > starts to install the RPM packages, until it gets to ncurses. It then gets > to the end of that and stops. If you go to a virtual console and press return, > that will not come up with another command line. Try switching to tty4 and pressing shift-scroll-lock, control-scroll-lock, and so on - they dump out various info. If you get nothing, does the caps LED work? _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun May 24 12:55:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA18225 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 12:55:18 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12516 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 12:56:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:54034 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10448-503>; Sun, 24 May 1998 14:56:01 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970990-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 07:25:09 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1960 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970996-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 07:24:42 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id MAA25072; Sun, 24 May 1998 12:54:38 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA10400; Sat, 23 May 1998 21:14:33 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id VAA18987; Sat, 23 May 1998 21:14:29 +0100 Message-Id: <199805232014.VAA18987@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: PowerROMmed cards To: theomarkettos@letterbox.com Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 21:14:27 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux@arm.uk.linux.org, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <19980523.151730.27@marketto.demon.co.uk> from "Theo Markettos" at May 23, 98 03:17:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Theo Markettos writes: > ... If there's, say, a bad connection with the podule bus, you might be > able to read the ROM without problems, then find that you couldn't access the > driver chip. If this was in the middle of some critical data transfer the > driver might hang waiting for a ready signal that never came because the chip > wasn't being read and rubbish was returned instead. I already do this with some of the drivers - ether3 checks whether the chip is on an 8bit or 16bit bus, and then checks the on-board RAM (as does the ether1). > Apologies if this already happens for most drivers - I'm speaking as a RISC > OS and hardware person with a users knowledge of Unix, not a Unix hacker. ;) Well, until I started ARMLinux, I wasn't a unix hacker ;) _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun May 24 14:11:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA18306 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 14:11:25 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12521 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 14:12:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:17214 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10272-500>; Sun, 24 May 1998 16:11:59 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971010-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 08:40:54 -0400 Received: from [195.152.9.20] ([195.152.9.20]:2755 "EHLO gateway.copymaster.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971009-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 08:40:42 -0400 Received: from klmc ([158.152.71.143]) by gateway.copymaster.co.uk (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-45194U100L2S100) with SMTP id AAA103 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 13:59:53 +0000 Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 13:05:25 +0000 From: tlawton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Compilation of BitchX Message-ID: <75fe434b48%on134th-com@klmc.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: tlawton@on134th.com Organization: Home X-Mailer: Messenger v1.34c for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60j X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, Has anyone managed to compile BitchX for ARMLinux, or can anyone tell me what's wrong? I don't think there's anything wrong with my system as I've managed to compile a kernel, and PINE. So far I've set up symbolic links from the places it's looking for some files to the places where those can be found but it's still not working. Thanks, Tom Below here is a selection, taken from te configure log, of the bits that failed. configure:857: gcc -E conftest.c >/dev/null 2>conftest.out configure:853: sys/select.h: No such file or directory configure: failed program was: #line 852 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" #include configure:847: checking for sys/syslimits.h configure:857: gcc -E conftest.c >/dev/null 2>conftest.out configure:853: sys/syslimits.h: No such file or directory configure: failed program was: #line 852 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" #include configure:847: checking for sys/filio.h configure:857: gcc -E conftest.c >/dev/null 2>conftest.out configure:853: sys/filio.h: No such file or directory configure: failed program was: #line 852 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" #include configure:1768: gcc -o conftest -O2 conftest.c -ldir 1>&5 ld: cannot open -ldir: No such file or directory configure: failed program was: #line 1757 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char opendir(); int main() { opendir() ; return 0; } configure: In function `main': configure:2909: warning: initialization discards `const' from pointer target type configure:3217: gcc -o conftest -O2 conftest.c -lsocket -lncurses 1>&5 ld: cannot open -lsocket: No such file or directory configure: failed program was: #line 3206 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char socket(); int main() { socket() ; return 0; } configure:3241: checking for socket in -linet configure:3260: gcc -o conftest -O2 conftest.c -linet -lncurses 1>&5 ld: cannot open -linet: No such file or directory configure: failed program was: #line 3249 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char socket(); int main() { socket() ; return 0; } configure:3284: checking for gethostname in -lnsl configure:3303: gcc -o conftest -O2 conftest.c -lnsl -lncurses 1>&5 ld: cannot open -lnsl: No such file or directory configure: failed program was: #line 3292 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char gethostname(); int main() { gethostname() ; return 0; } configure:3326: checking for getpwnam in -lsun configure:3345: gcc -o conftest -O2 conftest.c -lsun -lncurses 1>&5 ld: cannot open -lsun: No such file or directory configure: failed program was: #line 3334 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char getpwnam(); int main() { getpwnam() ; return 0; } configure:3366: checking for inet_addr in -ldgc configure:3385: gcc -o conftest -O2 conftest.c -ldgc -lncurses 1>&5 ld: cannot open -ldgc: No such file or directory configure: failed program was: #line 3374 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char inet_addr(); int main() { inet_addr() ; return 0; } configure:3406: checking for gethostbyname in -lresolv configure:3425: gcc -o conftest -O2 conftest.c -lresolv -lncurses 1>&5 ld: cannot open -lresolv: No such file or directory configure: failed program was: #line 3414 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char gethostbyname(); int main() { gethostbyname() ; return 0; } configure:3446: checking for crypt in -lcrypt configure:3465: gcc -o conftest -O2 conftest.c -lcrypt -lncurses 1>&5 ld: cannot open -lcrypt: No such file or directory configure: failed program was: #line 3454 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char crypt(); int main() { crypt() ; return 0; } configure:3486: checking for malloc in -lgnumalloc configure:3505: gcc -o conftest -O2 conftest.c -lgnumalloc -lncurses 1>&5 ld: cannot open -lgnumalloc: No such file or directory configure: failed program was: #line 3494 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char malloc(); int main() { malloc() ; return 0; } configure:3524: checking for malloc in -lbsdmalloc configure:3543: gcc -o conftest -O2 conftest.c -lbsdmalloc -lncurses 1>&5 ld: cannot open -lbsdmalloc: No such file or directory configure: failed program was: #line 3532 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char malloc(); int main() { malloc() ; return 0; } -- .... The United States has never lost a war in which mules were used. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun May 24 14:58:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA18353 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 14:58:05 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12526 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 14:58:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:4725 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11057-504>; Sun, 24 May 1998 16:58:41 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971026-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 09:27:04 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:22786 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971053-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 09:24:48 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id OAA18346; Sun, 24 May 1998 14:54:27 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805241354.OAA18346@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Compilation of BitchX To: tlawton@on134th.com Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 14:54:25 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <75fe434b48%on134th-com@klmc.demon.co.uk> from "tlawton" at May 24, 98 01:05:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO tlawton > > Hi, > > Has anyone managed to compile BitchX for ARMLinux, or can anyone tell me > what's wrong? I don't think there's anything wrong with my system as I've > managed to compile a kernel, and PINE. So far I've set up symbolic links from > the places it's looking for some files to the places where those can be found > but it's still not working. Umm. can you be more precise about `set up symlinks'? In particular, you should have symlinks from: /usr/include/linux to /usr/src/linux/include/linux /usr/include/asm to /usr/src/linux/include/asm /usr/include/scsi to /usr/src/linux/include/scsi Configuring the kernel will set the rest of the necessary symlinks up. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun May 24 18:13:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA18487 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 18:13:08 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA12535 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 18:13:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:19996 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10717-504>; Sun, 24 May 1998 20:13:46 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971066-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 12:41:36 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1351 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971064-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 12:41:25 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id SAA31085; Sun, 24 May 1998 18:12:03 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12219; Sun, 24 May 1998 15:24:28 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id PAA04385; Sun, 24 May 1998 15:24:24 +0100 Message-Id: <199805241424.PAA04385@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Compilation of BitchX To: tlawton@on134th.com Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 15:24:23 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <75fe434b48%on134th-com@klmc.demon.co.uk> from "tlawton" at May 24, 98 01:05:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO tlawton writes: > Below here is a selection, taken from te configure log, of the bits that > failed. Erm, yes - that log looks correct. What exactly is the problem? _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun May 24 18:37:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA18569 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 18:37:27 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA12539 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 18:38:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:40754 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11210-504>; Sun, 24 May 1998 20:37:58 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971086-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 13:05:22 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1033 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971085-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 13:02:07 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0ydbeb-0000Sn-00; Sun, 24 May 1998 15:21:37 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: tlawton@on134th.com cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Compilation of BitchX In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 24 May 1998 13:05:25 -0000." <75fe434b48%on134th-com@klmc.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 15:21:37 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >configure:857: gcc -E conftest.c >/dev/null 2>conftest.out >configure:853: sys/select.h: No such file or directory >configure: failed program was: >#line 852 "configure" >#include "confdefs.h" >#include You're missing some system header files. Try reinstalling the libc headers. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun May 24 20:32:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA18810 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 20:32:19 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA12562 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 20:33:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:20762 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10692-504>; Sun, 24 May 1998 22:33:00 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971103-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 14:59:39 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1776 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970845-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 14:58:27 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA00920; Sun, 24 May 1998 20:29:47 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA12964; Sun, 24 May 1998 20:29:51 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA01261; Sun, 24 May 1998 20:29:43 +0100 Message-Id: <199805241929.UAA01261@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Compilation of BitchX To: Philip.Blundell@pobox.com (Philip Blundell) Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 20:29:39 +0100 (BST) Cc: tlawton@on134th.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at May 24, 98 03:21:37 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Philip Blundell writes: > >configure:857: gcc -E conftest.c >/dev/null 2>conftest.out > >configure:853: sys/select.h: No such file or directory > >configure: failed program was: > >#line 852 "configure" > >#include "confdefs.h" > >#include > > You're missing some system header files. Try reinstalling the libc headers. Not if you're using libc4. All that this log contains is the results of the autoconf configuration script detecting what resources the system has available, which it has detected properly. What I'd like to know is what the real problem is. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun May 24 22:18:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA18940 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 22:18:55 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA12568 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 22:19:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:59516 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10738-503>; Mon, 25 May 1998 00:19:35 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970953-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 16:46:10 -0400 Received: from hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.16.101]:36152 "HELO hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970918-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 16:45:58 -0400 Received: from lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk by hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk with SMTP-GLA (MMTA) with ESMTP; Sun, 24 May 1998 22:18:26 +0100 Received: from localhost (9606585c@localhost) by lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk (8.8.4/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA17872 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 22:18:23 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 22:18:22 +0100 (BST) From: James Craig <9606585c@udcf.gla.ac.uk> X-Sender: 9606585c@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk To: ARM Linux mailing list Subject: Re: Compilation of BitchX In-Reply-To: <199805241929.UAA01261@raistlin.armlinux.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Sun, 24 May 1998, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > Philip Blundell writes: > > >configure:857: gcc -E conftest.c >/dev/null 2>conftest.out > > >configure:853: sys/select.h: No such file or directory > > >configure: failed program was: > > >#line 852 "configure" > > >#include "confdefs.h" > > >#include > > > > You're missing some system header files. Try reinstalling the libc headers. > > Not if you're using libc4. > > All that this log contains is the results of the autoconf configuration script > detecting what resources the system has available, which it has detected properly. > What I'd like to know is what the real problem is. Yep, I saw the log, and wondered what exactly was wrong. All those things are *meant* to fail, they're just it finding out that things aren't present - quite normal really. It's nice to know I'm in good company in that belief. :) -- James Craig <9606585c@udcf.gla.ac.uk> unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun May 24 23:12:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA19122 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 23:12:55 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA12585 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 23:13:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:13098 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11086-503>; Mon, 25 May 1998 01:13:46 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970985-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 17:40:30 -0400 Received: from mailgate1.uea.ac.uk ([139.222.230.1]:54625 "EHLO mailgate1.uea.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970971-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 17:40:10 -0400 Received: from cpca11.uea.ac.uk by mailgate1.uea.ac.uk with SMTP (PP UEA); Sun, 24 May 1998 23:13:02 +0100 Received: from cpca4.uea.ac.uk [139.222.130.4] by cpca11.uea.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0ydj0m-0002So-00; Sun, 24 May 1998 23:13:00 +0100 Received: from u9530037 by cpca4.uea.ac.uk with local (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0ydj0l-0005df-00; Sun, 24 May 1998 23:12:59 +0100 Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 23:12:59 +0100 (BST) From: John Houston X-Sender: u9530037@cpca4.uea.ac.uk To: arm-linux Subject: EtherLan 600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Has anyone managed to get the Etherlan 600 card from i-cubed to work with Arm Linux? I've tried installing from the ftp site (ftp.arm.uk.linux.org) twice and I've tried installing the modules from the ftp site but nothing seems to work and I'm at a bit of a loss as to what to do. Any ideas? John unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun May 24 23:51:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA19212 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 23:51:51 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA12642 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 23:52:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:15688 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10881-502>; Mon, 25 May 1998 01:52:40 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971023-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 18:19:08 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1568 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971010-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 18:18:51 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup4.cymru.net [163.164.160.68]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id XAA04434; Sun, 24 May 1998 23:51:41 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA13492; Sun, 24 May 1998 23:52:03 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id XAA09396; Sun, 24 May 1998 23:51:37 +0100 Message-Id: <199805242251.XAA09396@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: EtherLan 600 To: J.Houston@uea.ac.uk (John Houston) Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 23:51:36 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "John Houston" at May 24, 98 11:12:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO John Houston writes: > Has anyone managed to get the Etherlan 600 card from i-cubed to work with > Arm Linux? I've tried installing from the ftp site > (ftp.arm.uk.linux.org) twice and I've tried installing the modules from > the ftp site but nothing seems to work and I'm at a bit of a loss as to > what to do. Any ideas? Yes, I use one every day. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 25 00:38:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA19440 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 00:38:32 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA12664 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 00:38:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:29538 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10934-504>; Mon, 25 May 1998 02:38:16 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971029-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 19:04:16 -0400 Received: from [195.152.9.2] ([195.152.9.2]:3106 "EHLO gateway.copymaster.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971021-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 19:04:02 -0400 Received: from klmc ([158.152.71.143]) by gateway.copymaster.co.uk (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-45194U100L2S100) with SMTP id AAA243 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 00:25:47 +0000 Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 23:34:44 +0000 From: tlawton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Compilation of BitchX Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199805241424.PAA04385@raistlin.armlinux.org> Reply-To: tlawton@on134th.com Organization: Home X-Mailer: Messenger v1.34c for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60j X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, >> Below here is a selection, taken from te configure log, of the bits that >> failed. >Erm, yes - that log looks correct. What exactly is the problem? Apologies. I'd thought it was the fact it couldn't find the files that was causing problems. Wonderfully helpful is make - give me ARM assembler and its handy errors any day over C :) *** I found in the dox: Linux kernel version 1.3.80 made changes to the system include files. A small definition was removed which will cause a lot of screen orientated programs to fail on compiling. Both ircii-2.8 and BitchX will fail when compiling on the file alias.c with an error message about speed_t or ospeed being undefined. Instead of hacking around this behaviour within BitchX, edit include/defs.h and supply at the start of the file either one of the following for the offending error: Solution: (ospeed) add "extern short ospeed;" Solution: (speed_t) add "#define speed_t unsigned short" But I don't have an defs.h anywhere on the HD, except for in /usr/src/BitchX/include/, and making these changes to that file still gives the same trouble except the "parse error before 'ospeed" changes to the fact that it is multiply defined. *** (stdout and stderr combined from doing "make" in /usr/src/BitchX) make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/BitchX/source' gcc -O2 -D_VERSION_=\"BitchX\" -I../include -c alias.c In file included from ../include/irc.h:88, from alias.c:11: /usr/arm-unknown-linuxaout/include/termcap.h:39: parse error before `ospeed' /usr/arm-unknown-linuxaout/include/termcap.h:39: warning: data definition has no type or storage class make[1]: *** [alias.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/BitchX/source' make: *** [BitchX] Error 2 Thanks for any info, Tom PS Can anyone tell me what is "net-pf-5" and why every time I boot up I am told it can't be found. The system works fine so I guess it's not vital. PPS Does the "strip" command remove debugging information from a binary and therefore decrease its size? PPPS Can anyone supply the mknod numbers for using hde and hdf. Before the messing around with my system I've done, they were working but now only hda is mentioned when the kernel boots up, and in the /dev/ directory there is only up to hdd -- .... "I'm tired." - Jussie Hammalein unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 25 00:39:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA19444 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 00:39:41 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA12667 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 00:39:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:29538 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10775-504>; Mon, 25 May 1998 02:39:34 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971038-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 19:05:49 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1086 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971021-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 19:05:42 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0ydkHJ-0004EI-00; Mon, 25 May 1998 00:34:09 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: aem@netcom.ca cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: FPU Emulator In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 24 May 1998 17:32:11 EDT." <199805242132.RAA12571@netcom.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 00:34:09 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >I understand there isn't OPEN SOURCE for the ARM FPU emulator. >Apparently it is available as a module only, as it was ported >from Acorn code(?) That's correct, yes. It's a pretty unhappy state of affairs. I have a working-but-inefficient soft-float library (based on Neil's efforts for NetBSD) but a proper emulator would be good to have as well. >I'm interested in writing OPEN SOURCE for such a beast. Excellent. I was planning to do that myself (in fact I was thinking about it again only this afternoon). >outputs. So far looking at ARM kernel source hasn't been too >helpful. It wouldn't be; the kernel has very little to do with the FP emulator. What exactly do you mean by the expected inputs and outputs? >I've also been told that the current FPU emulator has a problem >with byte ordering. Could someone enlighten me if this is the >case. I hadn't heard that. You're likely to come unstuck on big-endian systems with it, but that's as much as a result of simply not being able to rebuild the thing as any inherent limitation of the code (I haven't seen the source, so I can't comment on how easy it would be to make it work with big-endian machines). I _have_ heard rumours that the ARM emulator has problems with accuracy. Certainly the glibc math library fails `make check' when run under it. I haven't tried this test with my soft library so I can't say if that's any better. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 25 00:41:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA19448 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 00:41:22 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA12671 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 00:41:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:29538 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10775-504>; Mon, 25 May 1998 02:41:05 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971021-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 19:07:10 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1091 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971036-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 19:07:05 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0ydkId-0004Eg-00; Mon, 25 May 1998 00:35:31 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: "Neil A. Carson" cc: aem@netcom.ca, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: FPU Emulator In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 24 May 1998 22:33:35 BST." <3568922F.621DD6BD@causality.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 00:35:31 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >I wrote one a couple of years ago, in C. It was in an older NetBSD/arm32 >tree, under 'fpe-sp.' These days an FP library, rather than an emulator, You might be interested to know that there's a newer (and presumably better) version of SoftFloat out now. I did the hacks to basically get the same stuff working in it as you'd done for the old version. The code is sitting on my machine at work at the moment but I can mail it to anybody who wants it next week. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 25 00:42:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA19456 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 00:42:33 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA12674 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 00:42:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:29538 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10934-503>; Mon, 25 May 1998 02:42:18 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971021-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 19:08:40 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1096 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971029-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 19:08:23 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0ydkK3-0004F2-00; Mon, 25 May 1998 00:36:59 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: John Houston cc: arm-linux Subject: Re: EtherLan 600 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 24 May 1998 23:12:59 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 00:36:59 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >(ftp.arm.uk.linux.org) twice and I've tried installing the modules from >the ftp site but nothing seems to work and I'm at a bit of a loss as to >what to do. Any ideas? You could start by explaining what the symptoms of it not working are. Do you mean the driver doesn't load, or you can't send anything, or you can't receive anything, or none of the above? If you use a different card with the same setup, does it work then? p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 25 00:50:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA19460 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 00:50:35 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA12679 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 00:50:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:44648 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10934-503>; Mon, 25 May 1998 02:50:06 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971021-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 19:15:30 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:39458 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971029-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 19:15:18 -0400 Received: from (causality.com) [158.152.208.192] by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0ydkV6-00017Q-00; Mon, 25 May 1998 00:48:25 +0100 Message-ID: <3568942E.7F5FEB0D@causality.com> Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 22:42:06 +0100 From: "Neil A. Carson" Organization: Causality Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: aem@netcom.ca CC: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: FPU Emulator References: <199805242132.RAA12571@netcom.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO aem@netcom.ca wrote: > I've also been told that the current FPU emulator has a problem > with byte ordering. Could someone enlighten me if this is the > case. > > Any suggestions, or advice on how to proceed? I don't know if that's a problem with the emulator. The ARM and FPA as a whole has, for double-precision words, the bytes within a word in little endian form, but the two 32-bit words that make up the 64-bit one in big endian form! This is bizarre but it's the standard. Your best bet if you want to write a new one will be to get a copy of the ARM FPA data sheet, from your local ARM office or distributor. Regards, Neil unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 25 00:59:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA19465 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 00:59:12 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA12683 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 00:59:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:32637 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10241-504>; Mon, 25 May 1998 02:58:34 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971066-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 19:24:43 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:39818 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971103-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 19:20:32 -0400 Received: from (causality.com) [158.152.208.192] by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0ydkaB-0001Mx-00; Mon, 25 May 1998 00:53:39 +0100 Message-ID: <3568B29A.DF98976@causality.com> Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 00:51:54 +0100 From: "Neil A. Carson" Organization: Causality Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philip Blundell CC: aem@netcom.ca, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: FPU Emulator References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Philip Blundell wrote: > That's correct, yes. It's a pretty unhappy state of affairs. I have a > working-but-inefficient soft-float library (based on Neil's efforts for > NetBSD) but a proper emulator would be good to have as well. I didn't find that code was too bad. It still ran better than the FPE did, in any case. I'm planning to do a version of NetBSD's libc with the ARM soft float library (I can only redistribute this in binary form though) and Linux is welcome to do the same if it wishes. Doesn't help the open source thing though. Actually back last year I got a new version of the SoftFloat (v2) library, but I've not got round to doing it yet. Fixed a few bugs but performance didn't seem much better. The main thing is it's free :-) > I _have_ heard rumours that the ARM emulator has problems with accuracy. > Certainly the glibc math library fails `make check' when run under it. I > haven't tried this test with my soft library so I can't say if that's any > better. Blimey. That may have been fixed in a more recent version {than the one Acorn use}. N. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 25 01:53:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA19502 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 01:53:11 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA12695 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 01:53:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:18512 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10396-502>; Mon, 25 May 1998 03:52:51 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971026-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 20:19:00 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1120 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970982-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 20:18:37 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0ydlQZ-0004gV-00; Mon, 25 May 1998 01:47:47 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: "Neil A. Carson" cc: aem@netcom.ca, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: FPU Emulator In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 24 May 1998 22:42:06 BST." <3568942E.7F5FEB0D@causality.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 01:47:47 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >I don't know if that's a problem with the emulator. The ARM and FPA as a >whole has, for double-precision words, the bytes within a word in little >endian form, but the two 32-bit words that make up the 64-bit one in big >endian form! This is bizarre but it's the standard. Now you mention it I remember having a problem related to this with the soft-float stuff. I think gcc was getting the two words of a double backwards some of the time. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 25 02:17:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA19507 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 02:17:43 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA12699 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 02:17:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:37460 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10364-503>; Mon, 25 May 1998 04:17:35 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971074-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 20:43:33 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1138 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970982-31161>; Sun, 24 May 1998 20:43:15 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0ydlUE-0004h0-00; Mon, 25 May 1998 01:51:34 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: "Neil A. Carson" cc: aem@netcom.ca, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: FPU Emulator In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 25 May 1998 00:51:54 BST." <3568B29A.DF98976@causality.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 01:51:34 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >I didn't find that code was too bad. It still ran better than the FPE >did, in any case. I'm planning to do a version of NetBSD's libc with the >ARM soft float library (I can only redistribute this in binary form >though) and Linux is welcome to do the same if it wishes. Doesn't help That might be a nice idea. We wouldn't actually put it into the Linux C library, for all sorts of reasons (not least the GPL doesn't allow it) but distributing it as a separate library shouldn't be a problem. >> I _have_ heard rumours that the ARM emulator has problems with accuracy. >> Certainly the glibc math library fails `make check' when run under it. I > >Blimey. That may have been fixed in a more recent version {than the one >Acorn use}. To be fair I can't quite remember what the problems were. It's possible the fault doesn't lie entirely with the emulator, though it did look like it at the time. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 25 11:39:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA19801 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 11:39:55 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA12727 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 11:40:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:16400 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2899-504>; Mon, 25 May 1998 13:39:07 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971277-31161>; Mon, 25 May 1998 05:59:48 -0400 Received: from mailgate1.uea.ac.uk ([139.222.230.1]:58455 "EHLO mailgate1.uea.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971286-31161>; Mon, 25 May 1998 05:53:26 -0400 Received: from cpca11.uea.ac.uk by mailgate1.uea.ac.uk with SMTP (PP UEA); Mon, 25 May 1998 11:29:39 +0100 Received: from cpca4.uea.ac.uk [139.222.130.4] by cpca11.uea.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0yduVd-0006I6-00; Mon, 25 May 1998 11:29:37 +0100 Received: from u9530037 by cpca4.uea.ac.uk with local (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0yduVc-0007sg-00; Mon, 25 May 1998 11:29:36 +0100 Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 11:29:36 +0100 (BST) From: John Houston X-Sender: u9530037@cpca4.uea.ac.uk To: arm-linux Subject: Re: EtherLan 600 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Mon, 25 May 1998, Philip Blundell wrote: > >(ftp.arm.uk.linux.org) twice and I've tried installing the modules from > >the ftp site but nothing seems to work and I'm at a bit of a loss as to > >what to do. Any ideas? > > You could start by explaining what the symptoms of it not working are. Do you > mean the driver doesn't load, or you can't send anything, or you can't receive > anything, or none of the above? If you use a different card with the same > setup, does it work then? > Well, when I start Linux it says that it's delaying the initialisation of eth0 which is because in the /lib/modules directory I only have the misc directory containing the fpem module. I've tried installing the modules rpm from the ftp site but I just get errors telling me that the modules are already installed (if I use the latest version). I've tried using an old set of modules along with the relevant version of the kernel but that gives errors that say that the symbols in the module don't match those in the kernel which makes no sense to me at all! So, I can't send or recieve as I have no driver installed (or available) and I don't have another card that I can try as all the people I know use PCs (well, nobody's perfect!). Perhaps I should just buy a cheap PC and install Linux on that! :) John unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 25 11:53:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA19822 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 11:53:18 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA12740 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 11:53:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:35379 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2323-500>; Mon, 25 May 1998 13:53:19 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971267-31161>; Mon, 25 May 1998 06:16:32 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1363 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971274-31161>; Mon, 25 May 1998 06:16:09 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id LAA16804; Mon, 25 May 1998 11:52:26 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA14076; Mon, 25 May 1998 10:48:05 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id KAA01717; Mon, 25 May 1998 10:48:27 +0100 Message-Id: <199805250948.KAA01717@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: FPU Emulator To: neil@causality.com (Neil A. Carson) Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 10:48:25 +0100 (BST) Cc: Philip.Blundell@pobox.com, aem@netcom.ca, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <3568B29A.DF98976@causality.com> from "Neil A. Carson" at May 25, 98 00:51:54 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Neil A. Carson writes: > Actually back last year I got a new version of the SoftFloat (v2) > library, but I've not got round to doing it yet. Fixed a few bugs but > performance didn't seem much better. The main thing is it's free :-) > > > I _have_ heard rumours that the ARM emulator has problems with accuracy. > > Certainly the glibc math library fails `make check' when run under it. I > > haven't tried this test with my soft library so I can't say if that's any > > better. > > Blimey. That may have been fixed in a more recent version {than the one > Acorn use}. Phil, you're probably using 2.87, which does have accuracy problems. 4.07 is apparantly ok, but that's for 32-bit machines. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 25 14:22:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA19945 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 14:22:17 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12752 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 14:22:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:52317 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2504-502>; Mon, 25 May 1998 16:21:03 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971309-31161>; Mon, 25 May 1998 08:43:36 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1191 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971307-31161>; Mon, 25 May 1998 08:43:25 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0ydw7r-0006WE-00; Mon, 25 May 1998 13:13:11 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: FPU Emulator In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 25 May 1998 10:48:25 BST." <199805250948.KAA01717@raistlin.armlinux.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 13:13:10 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >Phil, you're probably using 2.87, which does have accuracy problems. 4.07 >is apparantly ok, but that's for 32-bit machines. That's true - I was using my A5000 at the time. I haven't tried the 400 version yet. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 25 14:57:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA19964 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 14:57:47 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12757 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 14:57:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:1654 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2920-502>; Mon, 25 May 1998 16:57:20 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971304-31161>; Mon, 25 May 1998 09:18:59 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:42294 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971306-31161>; Mon, 25 May 1998 09:18:43 -0400 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.162]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA16801 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 15:55:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf1) id AA19722; Mon, 25 May 1998 15:55:37 +0200 Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 15:55:37 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: mtools V3.6 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-2117150046-2078917053-896104537=:28402" X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---2117150046-2078917053-896104537=:28402 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi here is a little patch that should allow mtools 3.6 to compile under ARMLinux. If you take a look at it you will possibly know what I mean with gcc's PACKED bug. It doesn't layout the struct vfat_subentry the way it's meant to be. And because the struct is written to disc as is, mtools checks the size of all important structs first. I compiled mtools under AIX and PC-Linux and they didn't have the problems. The structure expects to have struct unicode_char (sizeof(...)=2) inserted correctly, but instead of 2 bytes it takes 4 bytes when being inserted in vfat_subentry. By adressing it as *char[index] this is avoided. 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25 15:54:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA19998 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 15:54:06 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12762 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 15:54:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:2880 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2593-502>; Mon, 25 May 1998 17:53:57 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971318-31161>; Mon, 25 May 1998 10:14:35 -0400 Received: from poseidon.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.34]:61444 "EHLO poseidon.tcp.net.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971346-31161>; Mon, 25 May 1998 10:07:44 -0400 Received: from tonyh (du-123.tcp.co.uk [195.80.1.123]) by poseidon.tcp.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8+antispam) with SMTP id PAA22577 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 15:45:14 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 15:34:56 +0100 From: Tony Houghton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ARMLinux Partition Problem Message-ID: <7f6d04b48%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <6jse4h$aif$4@pump1.york.ac.uk> X-Organization: Home X-Mailer: Messenger v1.39 for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.21beta MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60k X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO In Matthew Wilcox wrote: > Ulrik, you've forgotten to edit boot.conf and run `loadmap'. Note that > you can boot your way in using -bootkernel and specifying > `root=/dev/hda3 ro' in the extra options section of the booter. I installed it yesterday [1] and I'm still having to use the above way to boot it because loadmap crashes with a memory violation (I can't remember the code address, but it was trying to access 0x00000008). It didn't seem to make any difference what I had in my /etc/boot.conf, it still crashed in the same place. BTW, can't you get stack backtraces under ARMLinux? Last time I installed it I had to give up in the end, because I couldn't find any way of entering a ~. With the newer bits [1] the ~ key itself still doesn't work, but at least I can get it by typing Alt-126 now. [1] I used the latest kernel and root and supplemental images from the FTP site, but sets from the Clan CD and base.tar and instimage.tar from Phil Norman's site. Could this have caused compatibility problems? I don't know if someone wants to look into !PartMan, but neither the latest version nor the version on the Clan CD work for me, I had to use 1.05. -- \_________________ \ http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~tonyh/ The Curling Pages \ The home of WinEd, Bombz and POPstar for RISC OS unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 25 16:46:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA20029 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 16:46:23 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12771 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 16:46:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:49254 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT2") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2911-830>; Mon, 25 May 1998 18:42:55 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970804-31161>; Mon, 25 May 1998 10:39:15 -0400 Received: from violet.csi.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.8.58]:53727 "EHLO violet.csi.cam.ac.uk" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970859-31161>; Mon, 25 May 1998 10:29:05 -0400 Received: from mup.pet.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.209.211] ident=kjm25) by violet.csi.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.92 #1) for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu id 0ydypn-0006qB-00; Mon, 25 May 1998 16:06:43 +0100 Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 16:04:51 +0100 (BST) From: Kieran Mansley Subject: Re: ARMLinux Partition Problem To: Tony Houghton In-Reply-To: <7f6d04b48%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Peterhouse, Cambridge. X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.45] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Mon 25 May, Tony Houghton wrote: > > [1] I used the latest kernel and root and supplemental images from the > FTP site, but sets from the Clan CD and base.tar and instimage.tar from > Phil Norman's site. Could this have caused compatibility problems? > You need to alter the keytable that you're using (usr/lib/kbd/keytables on my system). I can mail you the version that I put together after finding no ~, #, " in the wrong place etc. Kieran -- Kieran Mansley, Peterhouse, Cambridge. CB2 1RD kjm25@cam.ac.uk http://mup.pet.cam.ac.uk/ I tell all my friends but they never believe me. They think that I've finally lost it completely. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 25 16:52:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA20034 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 16:52:56 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12775 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 16:53:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:49254 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT2") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2708-829>; Mon, 25 May 1998 18:52:49 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970871-31161>; Mon, 25 May 1998 11:13:13 -0400 Received: from oskar.hagenuk.com ([194.49.67.1]:37598 "EHLO hagenuk.de" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970997-31161>; Mon, 25 May 1998 11:02:31 -0400 Received: from at21159 by hagenuk.de (8.8.8/SMI-SVR4) id RAA21661; Mon, 25 May 1998 17:41:28 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <35699167.4672@hagenuk.de> Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 17:42:31 +0200 From: Andreas Schweigstill Reply-To: Andreas.Schweigstill@hagenuk.de Organization: Hagenuk GmbH, Kiel, Germany X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: ARM based computers in Germany Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi all ! Can somebody tell me if it is still possible to purchase new ARM based computers like Acorn Archimedes in Germany or other parts of Europe (UK), please ? Where can I buy ARM bpards from DEC ? Regards, Andreas Schweigstill -- ========================================= Dipl.-phys. Andreas Schweigstill Hagenuk GmbH Abteilung RDC Westring 431 24118 Kiel Tel.: +49 431 8818 6223 Fax.: +49 431 8818 258 E-Mail: andreas.schweigstill@hagenuk.de ========================================= unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 25 19:37:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA20164 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 19:37:57 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA12803 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 19:38:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:60164 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2529-674>; Mon, 25 May 1998 21:37:49 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971206-31161>; Mon, 25 May 1998 13:20:52 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1247 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971273-31161>; Mon, 25 May 1998 13:16:51 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0ydz8Y-00089Z-00; Mon, 25 May 1998 16:26:06 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Tony Houghton cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ARMLinux Partition Problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 25 May 1998 15:34:56 BST." <7f6d04b48%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 16:26:06 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >still crashed in the same place. BTW, can't you get stack backtraces >under ARMLinux? The C library doesn't give you postmortems like the RISC OS one does. You do get a core dump though and you can then use the debugger to find out where the program crashed, and it wouldn't be that hard to fiddle things so you got a backtrace on abnormal termination. GCC doesn't put function names into the prologue like Norcroft does, though, which makes it harder to produce meaningful output. (There's a -fpoke-function-names option, or something like that, but it's not fully implemented at the moment). The kernel does give you a backtrace if it performs a bad access itself, incidentally. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 25 20:02:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA20175 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 20:02:09 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA12808 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 20:02:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:22548 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2228-673>; Mon, 25 May 1998 22:02:05 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971354-31161>; Mon, 25 May 1998 13:51:26 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1257 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971136-31161>; Mon, 25 May 1998 13:20:50 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0ye1Rd-0004TL-00; Mon, 25 May 1998 18:53:57 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Andreas.Schweigstill@hagenuk.de cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ARM based computers in Germany In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 25 May 1998 17:42:31 +0200." <35699167.4672@hagenuk.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 18:53:56 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >Can somebody tell me if it is still possible to purchase new >ARM based computers like Acorn Archimedes in Germany or other >parts of Europe (UK), please ? The Archimedes itself has been out of production for several years but you can still buy Acorn's latest efforts. There are a few other companies who make machines based on the ARM - are you looking for anything in particular? You can buy StrongARM evaluation boards from your local Intel distributor. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From bug-hurd-request@gnu.org Mon May 25 22:39:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mescaline.gnu.org (we-refuse-to-spy-on-our-users@mescaline.gnu.org [158.121.106.21]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA20517 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 22:39:31 +0100 Received: by mescaline.gnu.org (8.8.5/8.6.12GNU) id RAA18782; Mon, 25 May 1998 17:39:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 17:39:31 -0400 Received: from bambam.m-tech.ab.ca by mescaline.gnu.org (8.8.5/8.6.12GNU) with ESMTP id RAA18184 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 17:28:21 -0400 Received: from trick.profitpress.com (bambam-r1 [10.0.2.1]) by bambam.m-tech.ab.ca (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA25764 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 15:21:42 -0600 Received: (qmail 19757 invoked by uid 1001); 25 May 1998 21:32:46 -0000 To: Roland McGrath Cc: Ulrich Drepper , GNU Libc Alpha Testers , Hurd Bug List Subject: Re: glibc-19980524: invalid use of GCC's `transparent union' References: <199805251700.NAA08873@baalperazim.frob.com> X-Attribution: Gord Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Gordon Matzigkeit Date: 25 May 1998 15:32:45 -0600 In-Reply-To: Roland McGrath's message of Mon, 25 May 1998 13:00:32 -0400 Message-ID: <864syeox36.fsf@trick.profitpress.com> Lines: 97 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.2 Resent-Message-ID: <"OeGZu3.0.IS4.-9UQr"@mescaline.gnu.org> Resent-From: bug-hurd@gnu.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67 X-Loop: bug-hurd@gnu.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: bug-hurd-request@gnu.org Status: RO Hi! >>>>> Roland McGrath writes: RM> That is not correct. The entire purpose of `transparent_union' RM> is for this hack, and the purpose of the hack is exactly that RM> such redeclarations will work without an error. I disagree, and believe that it is a good idea to give an error for such redeclarations. RM> If the boneheads broke this in GCC again, either it has to get RM> fixed or we have to just punt this feature entirely and break all RM> programs that use `union wait'. It may very well be that `transparent_union' does not have the same semantics as when it was originally implemented, but I believe it is both simpler than the original semantics, and just as functional. As far as I can tell, you are complaining because it is not possible to do: typedef union { union wait *__uptr; int *__iptr; } __WAIT_STATUS __attribute__ ((__transparent_union__)); /* Declaration */ extern __pid_t __wait __P ((__WAIT_STATUS __stat_loc)); /* Definition */ __pid_t __wait (int *__stat_loc) /* GCC complains about differing types in __wait's signature */ { /* some expression involving an int *. */ return *__stat_loc = 0; } Now, I suggest that the above sequence of code is in bad style. The definition of __wait should use __WAIT_STATUS as its argument type. The GCC implementors seem to agree with me. So, my patch changes libc to do something like the following, in line with the example in the GCC manual (*Note (gcc)Type Attributes::): [omitting some hairy #if blocks...] # define __WAIT_PTR(stat_loc) ((stat_loc).__iptr) [...] /* Definition */ __pid_t __wait (__WAIT_STATUS __stat_loc) { return *__WAIT_PTR (stat_loc) = 0; } How many packages both #include libc's *and* define their own __wait function. I would assert that there are no such packages, except libc itself. Even if there *are* packages who do this, then it is certainly no inconvenience for them to use the macros I have supplied. But, that's only half the story (otherwise, there would be no reason to use a transparent union at all). The macros I define are fine for smart implementors of wait, but what about naive users of wait? The transparent_union allows them to do: { union wait wu; int wi; float wf; wait (&wu); wait (&wi); wait (&wf); } causing GCC to warn about typecasts only on the last `wait' call, even though to the naked eye it appears as if at least one of the other two `wait' calls needs a typecast. I believe that this behaviour is exactly the intention of the original `transparent_union' flag, and that allowing different function prototypes is both confusing and unnecessary, and therefore undesirable. So, please have another look at my patch. It implements the above semantics, and makes them obvious to a reader of the libc code. Thanks, -- Gordon Matzigkeit \ Proudly running pieces of the GNU operating system. gord@profitpress.com \ Jacques Cousteau loved programming in assembler. From bug-hurd-request@gnu.org Mon May 25 23:03:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mescaline.gnu.org (we-refuse-to-spy-on-our-users@mescaline.gnu.org [158.121.106.21]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA20563 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 23:03:09 +0100 Received: by mescaline.gnu.org (8.8.5/8.6.12GNU) id SAA20359; Mon, 25 May 1998 18:02:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 18:02:57 -0400 Received: from life.ai.mit.edu by mescaline.gnu.org (8.8.5/8.6.12GNU) with ESMTP id RAA19847; Mon, 25 May 1998 17:50:08 -0400 Received: from baalperazim.frob.com (baalperazim.frob.com [128.52.23.2]) by life.ai.mit.edu (8.8.8/AI1.22/ai.master.life:1.23) with ESMTP id RAA25671; Mon, 25 May 1998 17:50:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from roland@localhost) by baalperazim.frob.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA11980; Mon, 25 May 1998 17:50:01 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 17:50:01 -0400 Message-Id: <199805252150.RAA11980@baalperazim.frob.com> From: Roland McGrath MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Gordon Matzigkeit Cc: Ulrich Drepper , GNU Libc Alpha Testers , Hurd Bug List Subject: Re: glibc-19980524: invalid use of GCC's `transparent union' In-Reply-To: Gordon Matzigkeit's message of , 25 May 1998 15:32:45 -0600 <864syeox36.fsf@trick.profitpress.com> X-Windows: no hardware is safe. Resent-Message-ID: <"sDRi93.0.Fs4.JUUQr"@mescaline.gnu.org> Resent-From: bug-hurd@gnu.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68 X-Loop: bug-hurd@gnu.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: bug-hurd-request@gnu.org Status: RO > I disagree, and believe that it is a good idea to give an error for > such redeclarations. That defeats the explicit purpose of the feature. > As far as I can tell, you are complaining because it is not possible > to do: > > typedef union > { > union wait *__uptr; > int *__iptr; > } __WAIT_STATUS __attribute__ ((__transparent_union__)); > > /* Declaration */ > extern __pid_t __wait __P ((__WAIT_STATUS __stat_loc)); > > /* Definition */ > __pid_t > __wait (int *__stat_loc) > /* GCC complains about differing types in __wait's signature */ > { > /* some expression involving an int *. */ > return *__stat_loc = 0; > } I don't care about that per se. But it *must* be possible to do: #include pid_t wait(int *); and it is highly desireable that it work for a prototype using `union wait *' too. > Now, I suggest that the above sequence of code is in bad style. There is no question about that. It really doesn't matter to me what machinations are required in the wait.h decls or in the definitions of the wait functions. But redeclarations with prototypes must be allowed; that is the whole point of this ridiculous kludge. > But, that's only half the story (otherwise, there would be no reason > to use a transparent union at all). The macros I define are fine for > smart implementors of wait, but what about naive users of wait? > > The transparent_union allows them to do: > > { > union wait wu; > int wi; > float wf; > wait (&wu); > wait (&wi); > wait (&wf); > } > > causing GCC to warn about typecasts only on the last `wait' call, even > though to the naked eye it appears as if at least one of the other two > `wait' calls needs a typecast. > > I believe that this behaviour is exactly the intention of the original > `transparent_union' flag, and that allowing different function > prototypes is both confusing and unnecessary, and therefore > undesirable. I happen to know, being the original instigator of the functionality that became transparent_union. That is only half of the job originally intended. The other half is that naive wait users can do: #include ... { extern pid_t wait(int *); int wi; float wf; wait(&wi); wait(&wf); } and the only type error should be the last wait call, just as if the original decl were `pid_t wait(int *);'. From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon May 25 23:39:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA20610 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 23:39:26 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA12819 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 23:39:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:48976 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10570-673>; Tue, 26 May 1998 01:39:19 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970888-31161>; Mon, 25 May 1998 17:47:31 -0400 Received: from poseidon.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.34]:65285 "EHLO poseidon.tcp.net.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971089-31161>; Mon, 25 May 1998 17:40:47 -0400 Received: from tonyh (du-075.tcp.co.uk [195.80.1.75]) by poseidon.tcp.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8+antispam) with SMTP id XAA08290; Mon, 25 May 1998 23:20:33 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 23:05:45 +0100 From: Tony Houghton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Cc: kjm25@cam.ac.uk Subject: Keymap and restoretext (was Re: ARMLinux Partition Problem) Message-ID: <904cf94b48%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home X-Mailer: Messenger v1.38 for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.21beta MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60j X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO In message Kieran Mansley wrote: > You need to alter the keytable that you're using > (usr/lib/kbd/keytables on my system). I can mail you the version that > I put together after finding no ~, #, " in the wrong place etc. I managed to get it working after poking around in man and the keymap files, thanks. The problem was that it was mapped to "sterling" and "currency", neither of which seem to work. Is there any way of getting a pound sign? Also, I found a directory /usr/lib/kbd/videomodes containing a README which said I could use the "restoretextmode" command so I can save mode details for the resize command. Unfortunately I can't find restoretextmode. I have to say getting X to work is a lot more painless than NetBSD though :-). -- \_________________ \ http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~tonyh/ The Curling Pages \ The home of WinEd, Bombz and POPstar for RISC OS unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 26 09:19:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA20904 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 09:19:45 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12885 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 09:20:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:17268 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT2") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2868-541>; Tue, 26 May 1998 11:19:40 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970881-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 03:35:25 -0400 Received: from bits.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.64.1]:1712 "EHLO BITS.bris.ac.uk" ident: "dooby") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971122-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 03:34:15 -0400 Received: from localhost (dooby@localhost) by BITS.bris.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA24123 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 09:17:44 +0100 Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 09:17:43 +0100 (BST) From: dooby To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Something makes gcc crash on my A5000 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, I tried compiling a very simple 'Hello World' type program, and got this... miracle:~/mycprog# gcc myne.c Internal error: Oops - address exception: 403 CPU: 0 pc : [<01a28344>] lr : [<49a28347>] sp : 026c2210 ip : 026c2218 fp : 00000000 r10: 01a2dfd0 r9 : 20092894 r8 : 00000007 r7 : 00000000 r6 : 00000000 r5 : 0017f100 r4 : 00000000 r3 : 0215f910 r2 : 02434018 r1 : 01a2e058 r0 : 02153e28 Flags: nZcv IRQs off FIQs on Mode SVC_26 Process cc1 (pid: 214, stackpage=026c125c) Stack: Code: pc not in code space gcc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 7 miracle:~/mycprog# I am currently using the latest 2.0.31 A5000 kernel. I actually did the RedHat install on a SA RPC - could this be the problem? If so, can I just reinstall the binutils, gcc, etc. bits (and how?). If not, can some kind soul compile and send me working binaries of everything I need to compile stuff myself please? My RedHat install tree contains this package :- RedHat/RPMS/binutils-2.7-1a2.arm.rpm The machine then proceeds to bring up similar messages to the above when trying to run almost anything - including rebooting, and is generally stuffed. Any ideas anyone? TIA, dooby unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 26 09:20:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA20908 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 09:20:14 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12888 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 09:20:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:17268 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT2") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2541-542>; Tue, 26 May 1998 11:20:22 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970947-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 03:35:34 -0400 Received: from bits.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.64.1]:1707 "EHLO BITS.bris.ac.uk" ident: "dooby") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970921-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 03:32:55 -0400 Received: from localhost (dooby@localhost) by BITS.bris.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA24118 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 09:16:22 +0100 Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 09:16:21 +0100 (BST) From: dooby To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Loadmap and Filecore problems on an A5000 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi all, I have tried setting up Linux (with loadmap) to use a kernel on my root partition, but when I try to run !Linux I get the message Error: unable to access sectors 0x1A3966 above 0xFFFFF My /etc/boot.conf file is as follows :- riscos { name = "Risc OS"; }; kernel { name = "Linux 2.0.31"; path = "/vmlinuz"; root = "/dev/hdb3"; ramdisk = 0; flags = readonly; }; This also causes IscaFS to say 'This partition is not readable by your version of Filecore. error when reading ADFS::Utils.Linux.IscaFS0-04.Support.GetPartns.0'. I have used PartMan 1.11 to set up partitions on ADFS 5 :- Partition Start End Size Type 1 0 1046303 511 MB Filecore 2 1046304 1046305 1 KB Linux Table 3 1046306 2092834 511 MB Linux Native (root) 4 2092835 3077923 481 MB Linux Native (usr) 5 3077924 3324383 120 MB Linux Swap I guess this is probably due to Risc OS 3.11 Filecore limitations? If this is the case, is there any way of moving/reducing partitions such that I can access the (smaller) partitions without a full re-install? I briefly tried Clan's beta Filecore patch, but it didn't work, and I'm not sure that it isn't overwritten by linux anyway... Thanks for any help, dooby unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 26 09:25:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA20925 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 09:25:58 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12892 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 09:26:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:33040 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2950-541>; Tue, 26 May 1998 11:25:59 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970893-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 03:37:56 -0400 Received: from bits.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.64.1]:1740 "EHLO BITS.bris.ac.uk" ident: "dooby") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970835-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 03:37:34 -0400 Received: from localhost (dooby@localhost) by BITS.bris.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA24248 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 09:20:59 +0100 Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 09:20:59 +0100 (BST) From: dooby To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Module dependencies and unreslved symbols... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Oh dear - me again with another niggle ;-) When Linux is starting up it says Finding module dependencies .. /lib/modules/2.0.33/modules.dep then is sulks 'cos it can't find that file. I changed the 2.0.33 to 2.0.31 (my kernel version) and got lots of lovely 'unresolved symbol' errors about various modules. Can I get the 2.0.31 version os the file anywhere? Is that the solution anyway? Cheers, dooby unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 26 12:45:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA21373 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 12:45:25 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12934 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 12:45:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:42254 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2564-541>; Tue, 26 May 1998 14:45:29 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971460-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 07:01:09 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:30867 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971459-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 07:00:57 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id MAA21348; Tue, 26 May 1998 12:43:59 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805261143.MAA21348@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Loadmap and Filecore problems on an A5000 To: dooby@BITS.bris.ac.uk (dooby) Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 12:43:59 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "dooby" at May 26, 98 09:16:21 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO dooby > > Hi all, > > I have tried setting up Linux (with loadmap) to use a kernel on my root > partition, but when I try to run !Linux I get the message > > Error: unable to access sectors 0x1A3966 above 0xFFFFF Yes. Your filecore is incapable of accessing past the first 512MB. This is not fixable by anyone except Acorn releasing a new filecore for RISC OS 3.1, which there is insufficient demand for. > This also causes IscaFS to say 'This partition is not readable by your > version of Filecore. error when reading > ADFS::Utils.Linux.IscaFS0-04.Support.GetPartns.0'. That's correct. It's defined in the documentation. > I have used PartMan 1.11 to set up partitions on ADFS 5 :- > > Partition Start End Size Type > 1 0 1046303 511 MB Filecore > 2 1046304 1046305 1 KB Linux Table > 3 1046306 2092834 511 MB Linux Native (root) > 4 2092835 3077923 481 MB Linux Native (usr) > 5 3077924 3324383 120 MB Linux Swap > > I guess this is probably due to Risc OS 3.11 Filecore limitations? If this is > the case, is there any way of moving/reducing partitions such that I can access > the (smaller) partitions without a full re-install? Not really. You could reformat the filecore and put a new linux partition in below the linux table. Maybe. I wouldn't like to try it though. What you can do is boot with -bootkernel and then specify `root=/dev/hda3 ro' Maybe I'll rewrite some of the documentation post-exams to make this more clear. (And reread other bits of it so I understand some of the options I don't use.. my hazy memory tells me it should be possible to boot with a kernel somewhere else without having to enter those extra options elsewhere..) -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 26 12:53:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: from sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk (sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk [128.86.8.50]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA21396 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 12:53:40 +0100 Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk by sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk with UK SMTP (PP); Tue, 26 May 1998 12:53:20 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12938 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 12:47:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:42254 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2936-540>; Tue, 26 May 1998 14:47:37 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971470-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 07:03:21 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:30873 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971463-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 07:03:07 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id MAA21380; Tue, 26 May 1998 12:46:38 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805261146.MAA21380@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Module dependencies and unreslved symbols... To: dooby@BITS.bris.ac.uk (dooby) Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 12:46:37 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "dooby" at May 26, 98 09:20:59 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO dooby > > Oh dear - me again with another niggle ;-) > > When Linux is starting up it says > > Finding module dependencies .. /lib/modules/2.0.33/modules.dep > > then is sulks 'cos it can't find that file. The command it's executing reads your kernel version. You're using 2.0.33. > I changed the 2.0.33 to 2.0.31 (my kernel version) and got lots of lovely > 'unresolved symbol' errors about various modules. > > Can I get the 2.0.31 version os the file anywhere? Is that the solution > anyway? you need to run mkdep. Possibly telling it to `fake' which kernel version you have. `man mkdep' for more details. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 26 13:11:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA21419 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 13:11:24 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12942 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 13:11:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:13610 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10878-541>; Tue, 26 May 1998 15:11:19 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971471-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 07:25:53 -0400 Received: from carbon.uunet.be ([194.7.1.21]:1033 "EHLO carbon.uunet.be" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971476-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 07:25:25 -0400 Received: from suninbar (suninbar.barco.com [194.7.240.2]) by carbon.uunet.be (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA09738 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 14:09:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from barco.com (intranet3.barco.com [150.158.0.126]) by suninbar (SMI-8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA17008 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 14:04:36 +0200 Message-ID: <356AB06E.18BDA908@barco.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 14:07:10 +0200 From: John Tytgat Organization: Barco Graphics NV X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Loadmap and Filecore problems on an A5000 References: <199805261143.MAA21348@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Matthew Wilcox wrote: > Yes. Your filecore is incapable of accessing past the first 512MB. This > is not fixable by anyone except Acorn releasing a new filecore for RISC OS > 3.1, which there is insufficient demand for. But don't you also need to upgrade the ADFS/SCSI modules which are >512MB aware (ie. which implement the new FileCore calls) ? I thought that an upgrade of FileCore is not sufficent enough. John. -- John Tytgat And Bill said: "What's a network?" John.Tytgat@barco.com http://www.idg.co.nz/interview/Hauser.html unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 26 13:18:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA21425 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 13:18:56 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12946 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 13:19:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:13610 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2090-538>; Tue, 26 May 1998 15:17:51 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971446-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 07:33:30 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:26788 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971479-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 07:33:00 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (NAA12905); Tue, 26 May 1998 13:16:54 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 13:16:54 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: John Houston cc: arm-linux Subject: Re: EtherLan 600 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Mon, 25 May 1998, John Houston wrote: > Well, when I start Linux it says that it's delaying the initialisation of > eth0 which is because in the /lib/modules directory I only have the misc > directory containing the fpem module. I've tried installing the modules > rpm from the ftp site but I just get errors telling me that the modules > are already installed (if I use the latest version). I've tried using an > old set of modules along with the relevant version of the kernel but that > gives errors that say that the symbols in the module don't match those in > the kernel which makes no sense to me at all! Well, probably the best thing to do (well, the thing I did anyway) is to compile your own kernel up with ether1 support in the kernel rather than as an external module. If you like, I'll compile up a kernel for you with ether1 support in and email it to you. Just let me know anything you do or do not want in the kernel and I'll get my box working on a shiny new kernel for you. > Perhaps I should just buy a cheap PC and install Linux on that! :) NOOOOOOOO!!!! Evil CISC!! -- Rule of programming #3: The number of bugs which exist in a program is equal to the square of the number of bugs which you think exist. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From P.C.F.Norman@exeter.ac.uk Tue May 26 13:30:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: from exeter.ac.uk (hermes.ex.ac.uk [144.173.6.14]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA21454 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 13:30:48 +0100 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (NAA17320); Tue, 26 May 1998 13:31:05 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 13:31:05 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: Matthew Wilcox cc: dooby , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Loadmap and Filecore problems on an A5000 In-Reply-To: <199805261143.MAA21348@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO On Tue, 26 May 1998, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > Not really. You could reformat the filecore and put a new linux partition > in below the linux table. Maybe. I wouldn't like to try it though. > What you can do is boot with -bootkernel and then specify `root=/dev/hda3 > ro' Maybe I'll rewrite some of the documentation post-exams to make this > more clear. (And reread other bits of it so I understand some of the > options I don't use.. my hazy memory tells me it should be possible to > boot with a kernel somewhere else without having to enter those extra > options elsewhere..) There is a way to hack the bootloader so it automatically assumes what extra arguments you want it to assume. I did it to mine in the following manner: 1: Ran the bootloader through the debugger and got it to decompress itself, and then used the *command thing from the debugger's main menu to *save the now-decompressed !RunImage (*save $.foo 8000 - use the debugger's window to scroll down to the end if application memory to find this out). 2: Load the decompressed !RunImage into your favourite text editor and clip as much of the end off as you feel safe clipping (most of the wimpslot you saved will be data or random garbage, which can be safely removed without changing the way the program runs). 3: With your newly-shortened, decompressed !RI still in the text editor, search for the instruction (you'll have to be in disassembly mode to do this) OS_ReadLine and replace it with a branch to the end of the binary, where you should insert the following: STMDB r13!,{r0-r8,r14} ADR r1,foo LDMIA r1,{r2-r5} STMIA r0,{r2-r5} LDMIA r13!,{r0-r8,pc}^ .foo EQUS "root=/dev/hda3"+CHR$10 ALIGN Now, running the bootloader with "-bootkernel ADFS::4.$.ARMLinux.kernels.wibble" should automatically assume that /dev/hda3 is the root partition. The operation of the program will be exactly as if you had typed "root=/dev/hda3" at the prompt yourself. SANITY WARNING: DO NOT attempt this unless you are confident with hacking about with binaries. SANITY WARNING #2: KEEP A COPY OF THE ORIGINAL !RunImage!!! However, if you do know what you're doing and hack it correctly, it should work fine. Mine currently works like a dream, and I've even got an alias set up so all I have to do to boot into linux is to type *linux at the command prompt :-). Enjoy your hacking should you feel up to it, Phil -- Rule of programming #3: The number of bugs which exist in a program is equal to the square of the number of bugs which you think exist. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 26 14:14:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA21482 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 14:14:56 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12955 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 14:15:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:26629 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2757-538>; Tue, 26 May 1998 16:14:27 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971485-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 08:28:49 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:3479 "HELO globe" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971489-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 08:27:00 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yeJPj-00075i-00; Tue, 26 May 1998 14:05:11 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yeJPi-0005yc-00; Tue, 26 May 1998 14:05:10 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Phil Norman cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Loadmap and Filecore problems on an A5000 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 26 May 1998 13:31:05 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 14:05:09 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >There is a way to hack the bootloader so it automatically assumes what >extra arguments you want it to assume. I did it to mine in the following Ye gods. Russell, how about releasing the source to the thing? p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From linux@arm.uk.linux.org Tue May 26 19:46:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA21896 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 19:46:27 +0100 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id TAA29308; Tue, 26 May 1998 19:46:48 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA17550; Tue, 26 May 1998 19:46:29 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id TAA00507; Tue, 26 May 1998 19:46:47 +0100 Message-Id: <199805261846.TAA00507@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Module dependencies and unreslved symbols... To: willy@odie.barnet.ac.uk (Matthew Wilcox) Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 19:46:47 +0100 (BST) Cc: dooby@BITS.bris.ac.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199805261146.MAA21380@odie.barnet.ac.uk> from "Matthew Wilcox" at May 26, 98 12:46:37 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Matthew Wilcox writes: > > I changed the 2.0.33 to 2.0.31 (my kernel version) and got lots of lovely > > 'unresolved symbol' errors about various modules. > > > > Can I get the 2.0.31 version os the file anywhere? Is that the solution > > anyway? > > you need to run mkdep. Possibly telling it to `fake' which kernel > version you have. `man mkdep' for more details. Thats depmod -a , and man depmod. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 26 20:06:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA21909 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 20:06:25 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA12995 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 20:06:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:27424 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2100-541>; Tue, 26 May 1998 22:06:25 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971494-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 13:39:06 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1144 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971872-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 13:15:36 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id TAA28423; Tue, 26 May 1998 19:02:23 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA17352; Tue, 26 May 1998 19:01:58 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id TAA00403; Tue, 26 May 1998 19:02:19 +0100 Message-Id: <199805261802.TAA00403@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Loadmap and Filecore problems on an A5000 To: dooby@BITS.bris.ac.uk (dooby) Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 19:02:18 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "dooby" at May 26, 98 09:16:21 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO dooby writes: > I have tried setting up Linux (with loadmap) to use a kernel on my root > partition, but when I try to run !Linux I get the message > > Error: unable to access sectors 0x1A3966 above 0xFFFFF Looks like old filecore to me ;) > I guess this is probably due to Risc OS 3.11 Filecore limitations? If this is > the case, is there any way of moving/reducing partitions such that I can access > the (smaller) partitions without a full re-install? Not currently. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 26 20:07:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA21913 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 20:07:12 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA12999 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 20:07:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:27424 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11041-540>; Tue, 26 May 1998 22:06:45 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971533-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 13:39:16 -0400 Received: from [195.152.9.22] ([195.152.9.22]:1146 "EHLO gateway.copymaster.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971873-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 13:18:51 -0400 Received: from klmc ([158.152.71.143]) by gateway.copymaster.co.uk (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-45194U100L2S100) with SMTP id AAG283 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 18:54:38 +0000 Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 15:17:06 +0000 From: tlawton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: BitchX compilation and other qns Message-ID: Reply-To: tlawton@on134th.com Organization: Home X-Mailer: Messenger v1.34c for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60j X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, >> Below here is a selection, taken from te configure log, of the bits that >> failed. >Erm, yes - that log looks correct. What exactly is the problem? Apologies. I'd thought it was the fact it couldn't find the files that was causing problems. Wonderfully helpful is make - give me ARM assembler and its handy errors any day over C :) *** I found in the dox: Linux kernel version 1.3.80 made changes to the system include files. A small definition was removed which will cause a lot of screen orientated programs to fail on compiling. Both ircii-2.8 and BitchX will fail when compiling on the file alias.c with an error message about speed_t or ospeed being undefined. Instead of hacking around this behaviour within BitchX, edit include/defs.h and supply at the start of the file either one of the following for the offending error: Solution: (ospeed) add "extern short ospeed;" Solution: (speed_t) add "#define speed_t unsigned short" But I don't have an defs.h anywhere on the HD, except for in /usr/src/BitchX/include/, and making these changes to that file still gives the same trouble except the "parse error before 'ospeed" changes to the fact that it is multiply defined. *** (stdout and stderr combined from doing "make" in /usr/src/BitchX) make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/BitchX/source' gcc -O2 -D_VERSION_=\"BitchX\" -I../include -c alias.c In file included from ../include/irc.h:88, from alias.c:11: /usr/arm-unknown-linuxaout/include/termcap.h:39: parse error before `ospeed' /usr/arm-unknown-linuxaout/include/termcap.h:39: warning: data definition has no type or storage class make[1]: *** [alias.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/BitchX/source' make: *** [BitchX] Error 2 Thanks for any info, Tom PS Can anyone tell me what is "net-pf-5" and why every time I boot up I am told it can't be found. The system works fine so I guess it's not vital. PPS Does the "strip" command remove debugging information from a binary and therefore decrease its size? PPPS Can anyone supply the mknod numbers for using hde and hdf. Before the messing around with my system I've done, they were working but now only hda is mentioned when the kernel boots up, and in the /dev/ directory there is only up to hdd -- .... DRIVE - the means of getting to the latest regatta. It is best done in groups...in groups with beer. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 26 20:29:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA21939 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 20:29:20 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA13003 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 20:29:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:43125 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10635-541>; Tue, 26 May 1998 22:28:51 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971497-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 14:23:51 -0400 Received: from poseidon.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.34]:45812 "EHLO poseidon.tcp.net.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971668-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 13:53:18 -0400 Received: from tonyh (du-073.tcp.co.uk [195.80.1.73]) by poseidon.tcp.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8+antispam) with SMTP id TAA25482 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 19:40:27 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 18:33:01 +0100 From: Tony Houghton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Loadmap and Filecore problems on an A5000 Message-ID: <512a644c48%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home X-Mailer: Messenger v1.38 for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.21beta MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60j X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO In message Phil Norman wrote: > On Tue, 26 May 1998, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > > What you can do is boot with -bootkernel and then specify `root=/dev/hda3 > > There is a way to hack the bootloader so it automatically assumes what > extra arguments you want it to assume. I did it to mine in the following > manner: That's handy, because I'm having to boot that way because loadmap crashes on my SA RPC and nobody seems to know why. Will it crash if I've got something wrong with /etc/boot.conf ? I've also got the impression that it's ARM-sepcific and I don't know its purpose. Could someone kindly explain it or perhaps point me to the right message to look up in the archive if it's been explained before? > 1: Ran the bootloader through the debugger and got it to decompress > itself, and then used the *command thing from the debugger's main menu to > *save the now-decompressed !RunImage (*save $.foo 8000 final address in the current wimpslot is> - use the debugger's window to > scroll down to the end if application memory to find this out). That's a complicated way to unsqueeze it (I presume the compression is Squeeze). If you've got !Patch you should have !Patch.Modules.UnSqueeze. Load that and type "*unsqueeze .!RunImage". -- \_________________ \ http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~tonyh/ The Curling Pages \ The home of WinEd, Bombz and POPstar for RISC OS unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 26 20:59:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA21974 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 20:59:03 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA13021 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 20:59:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:8512 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2217-541>; Tue, 26 May 1998 22:58:41 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971556-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 14:47:45 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1125 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971667-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 14:29:42 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup4.cymru.net [163.164.160.68]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA29844; Tue, 26 May 1998 20:16:22 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA17610; Tue, 26 May 1998 20:00:22 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00580; Tue, 26 May 1998 20:00:39 +0100 Message-Id: <199805261900.UAA00580@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Something makes gcc crash on my A5000 To: dooby@BITS.bris.ac.uk (dooby) Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 20:00:39 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "dooby" at May 26, 98 09:17:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO dooby writes: > pc : [<01a28344>] > lr : [<49a28347>] That looks like it's in the FPEmulator module - what version of the fpemulator are you using, and what other modules do you have loaded (lsmod)? _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 26 21:07:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA21985 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 21:07:00 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA13025 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 21:07:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:3146 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2217-540>; Tue, 26 May 1998 23:06:49 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971630-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 14:48:17 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1190 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971663-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 14:29:51 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup4.cymru.net [163.164.160.68]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA29858; Tue, 26 May 1998 20:16:33 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA17633; Tue, 26 May 1998 20:04:21 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00602; Tue, 26 May 1998 20:04:37 +0100 Message-Id: <199805261904.UAA00602@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: EtherLan 600 To: P.C.F.Norman@exeter.ac.uk (Phil Norman) Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 20:04:37 +0100 (BST) Cc: J.Houston@uea.ac.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Phil Norman" at May 26, 98 01:16:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Phil Norman writes: > > Well, when I start Linux it says that it's delaying the initialisation of > > eth0 which is because in the /lib/modules directory I only have the misc > > directory containing the fpem module. I've tried installing the modules > > rpm from the ftp site but I just get errors telling me that the modules > > are already installed (if I use the latest version). I've tried using an > > old set of modules along with the relevant version of the kernel but that > > gives errors that say that the symbols in the module don't match those in > > the kernel which makes no sense to me at all! > > Well, probably the best thing to do (well, the thing I did anyway) is to > compile your own kernel up with ether1 support in the kernel rather than > as an external module. If you like, I'll compile up a kernel for you > with ether1 support in and email it to you. Just let me know anything > you do or do not want in the kernel and I'll get my box working on a > shiny new kernel for you. I don't think it's a question of compilation of a custom kernel - it's more a problem with not getting the right modules... There are two modules 'packages' - the real modules packages containing the tools (modules-*.arm.rpm), and the kernel modules themselves (modules-2.0.33-rpc.tar.gz). Please make sure that you get the right one. The correct one is located in the same directory as the kernels, and you must get the same version *and* date as your kernel. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 26 21:09:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA21990 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 21:09:10 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA13029 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 21:09:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:22608 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2217-542>; Tue, 26 May 1998 23:09:22 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971334-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 14:58:58 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1139 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971661-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 14:29:02 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup4.cymru.net [163.164.160.68]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA29848; Tue, 26 May 1998 20:16:24 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA17613; Tue, 26 May 1998 20:00:58 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00589; Tue, 26 May 1998 20:01:15 +0100 Message-Id: <199805261901.UAA00589@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Module dependencies and unreslved symbols... To: dooby@BITS.bris.ac.uk (dooby) Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 20:01:15 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "dooby" at May 26, 98 09:20:59 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO dooby writes: > When Linux is starting up it says > Finding module dependencies .. /lib/modules/2.0.33/modules.dep Don't you mean lib/modules/2.0.31/modules.dep if you're using the 2.0.31 kernel? _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 26 21:09:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA21994 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 21:09:48 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA13032 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 21:10:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:22608 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2347-541>; Tue, 26 May 1998 23:10:02 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971613-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 14:59:03 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1160 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971662-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 14:29:04 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup4.cymru.net [163.164.160.68]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA29852; Tue, 26 May 1998 20:16:28 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA17565; Tue, 26 May 1998 19:51:45 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id TAA00526; Tue, 26 May 1998 19:52:03 +0100 Message-Id: <199805261852.TAA00526@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Loadmap and Filecore problems on an A5000 To: pb@nexus.co.uk (Philip Blundell) Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 19:52:02 +0100 (BST) Cc: P.C.F.Norman@exeter.ac.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at May 26, 98 02:05:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Philip Blundell writes: > Ye gods. Russell, how about releasing the source to the thing? Once the bl**dy new PartMan has been tested properly - it's all using the same code. Suggestions are apprechiated how to handle multiple-concurrent development for RiscOS. As far as I am concerned, RiscOS has a single-person development model *only* (only one person can have the source and modify it). There is a reason for tight control on this - common code is used in: 1. Linux fdisk 2. !Linux 3. !PartMan I will not distribute the sources separately, so until I'm happy with this final alpha version, it's not going anywhere. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 26 22:10:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA22133 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 22:10:22 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA13037 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 22:10:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:25360 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2142-542>; Wed, 27 May 1998 00:10:09 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971447-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 16:18:19 -0400 Received: from skywalker.comnet.co.nz ([131.203.1.204]:3938 "EHLO skywalker.comnet.co.nz" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971419-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 16:18:00 -0400 Received: from gemini.comnet.co.nz (gemini.comnet.co.nz [131.203.1.215]) by skywalker.comnet.co.nz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA08632 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 09:06:39 +1200 (NZST) Received: from irlgrace1.grace.cri.nz (irlgrace1.grace.cri.nz [131.203.8.9]) by gemini.comnet.co.nz (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id za768403 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 09:08:55 +1200 Received: from IRL_GRACE1/SpoolDir by irlgrace1.grace.cri.nz (Mercury 1.21); 27 May 98 09:07:38 GMT+12 Received: from SpoolDir by IRL_GRACE1 (Mercury 1.21); 27 May 98 09:07:21 GMT+12 From: "Glenn Ramsey" Organization: Industrial Research Limited To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 09:07:18 GMT+1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: EtherLan 600 CC: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-ID: <2ED89E0046@irlgrace1.grace.cri.nz> X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin > There are two modules 'packages' - the real modules packages containing the > tools (modules-*.arm.rpm), and the kernel modules themselves > (modules-2.0.33-rpc.tar.gz). Please make sure that you get the right one. > > The correct one is located in the same directory as the kernels, and you > must get the same version *and* date as your kernel. Russell can you clarify this please? The current modules 'package' is found at: ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/distrib/RedHat/RPMS/modules-2.0.0-5a3.arm.rpm and this contains binaries for tools such as insmod, rmmod, lsmod and depmod. The kernel modules are found in directory ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/distrib/kernels/ and are the files named: modules-rpc-199?.??.gz and modules-rpc-20071997.gz These contain the module binaries such as etherh.o, serial.o and binfmt_elf.o. The kernel binaries in this directory are the ones named: rpc-2.0.??-199?.??.??.gz and a5k-2.0.??-* and ebsa-2.0.31-* Is this right? Would anyone find it useful if there was an archive with all the bits necessary to get dialup net access eg basic kernel, ppp and slip modules? I know I would have found this useful as I wouldn't have had to download the kernel source. I can provide the files and some tips on how to set it up if people on the list think it is a good idea. g -- Glenn Ramsey G . Ramsey @ irl . cri . nz unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 26 22:54:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA22245 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 22:54:37 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA13055 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 22:55:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:840 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2557-540>; Wed, 27 May 1998 00:54:00 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970822-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 17:00:09 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1760 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970903-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 16:58:58 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup2.cymru.net [163.164.160.66]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA01451; Tue, 26 May 1998 22:46:26 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA18342; Tue, 26 May 1998 22:46:18 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id WAA03617; Tue, 26 May 1998 22:46:25 +0100 Message-Id: <199805262146.WAA03617@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: EtherLan 600 To: G.Ramsey@irl.cri.nz (Glenn Ramsey) Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 22:46:24 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux@arm.uk.linux.org, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <2ED89E0046@irlgrace1.grace.cri.nz> from "Glenn Ramsey" at May 27, 98 09:07:18 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Glenn Ramsey writes: > Russell can you clarify this please? > > The current modules 'package' is found at: > ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/distrib/RedHat/RPMS/modules-2.0.0-5a3.arm.rpm > and this contains binaries for tools such as insmod, rmmod, lsmod and > depmod. > > The kernel modules are found in directory > ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/distrib/kernels/ > and are the files named: modules-rpc-199?.??.gz and > modules-rpc-20071997.gz > These contain the module binaries such as etherh.o, serial.o and > binfmt_elf.o. > > The kernel binaries in this directory are the ones named: > rpc-2.0.??-199?.??.??.gz and a5k-2.0.??-* and ebsa-2.0.31-* I don't see any need to clarify it any more than that ;), especially if ppl read the READMEs on the FTP site ;) README's not always contain random garbage ;) _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 26 22:54:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA22249 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 22:54:47 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA13059 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 22:55:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:840 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2550-540>; Wed, 27 May 1998 00:55:01 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970854-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 17:00:25 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:2099 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970795-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 17:00:06 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id WAA22226; Tue, 26 May 1998 22:48:51 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805262148.WAA22226@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Loadmap and Filecore problems on an A5000 To: P.C.F.Norman@exeter.ac.uk (Phil Norman) Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 22:48:50 +0100 (BST) Cc: dooby@BITS.bris.ac.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Phil Norman" at May 26, 98 01:31:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Phil Norman > > On Tue, 26 May 1998, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > > Not really. You could reformat the filecore and put a new linux partition > > in below the linux table. Maybe. I wouldn't like to try it though. > > What you can do is boot with -bootkernel and then specify `root=/dev/hda3 > > ro' Maybe I'll rewrite some of the documentation post-exams to make this > > more clear. (And reread other bits of it so I understand some of the > > options I don't use.. my hazy memory tells me it should be possible to > > boot with a kernel somewhere else without having to enter those extra > > options elsewhere..) > > There is a way to hack the bootloader so it automatically assumes what > extra arguments you want it to assume. I did it to mine in the following > manner: Phil, you're a sick, evil and twisted individual ;-) Surely it's simpler to compile your own kernel, having changed the default settings for ROOT_DEV in the Makefile -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 26 23:30:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA22279 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 23:30:46 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA13065 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 23:31:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:30214 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2531-540>; Wed, 27 May 1998 01:30:45 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970793-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 17:35:05 -0400 Received: from poseidon.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.34]:48536 "EHLO poseidon.tcp.net.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970791-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 17:18:39 -0400 Received: from tonyh (du-108.tcp.co.uk [195.80.1.108]) by poseidon.tcp.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8+antispam) with SMTP id XAA06551 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 23:08:05 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 23:06:45 +0100 From: Tony Houghton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Loadmap and Filecore problems on an A5000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199805261933.UAA00758@raistlin.armlinux.org> X-Organization: Home X-Mailer: Messenger v1.38 for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.21beta MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60j X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO In message <199805261933.UAA00758@raistlin.armlinux.org> Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > Tony Houghton writes: > > That's handy, because I'm having to boot that way because loadmap > > crashes on my SA RPC and nobody seems to know why. Will it crash if I've > > got something wrong with /etc/boot.conf ? I've also got the impression > > that it's ARM-sepcific and I don't know its purpose. Could someone > > kindly explain it or perhaps point me to the right message to look up in > > the archive if it's been explained before? > > Remove the config entry, or upgrade loadmap. Where do I get the upgrade from? -- \_________________ \ http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~tonyh/ The Curling Pages \ The home of WinEd, Bombz and POPstar for RISC OS unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue May 26 23:37:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA22283 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 23:37:10 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA13069 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 23:37:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:57869 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2850-542>; Wed, 27 May 1998 01:37:16 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970810-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 17:40:14 -0400 Received: from mailgate1.uea.ac.uk ([139.222.230.1]:61111 "EHLO mailgate1.uea.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970897-21547>; Tue, 26 May 1998 17:31:20 -0400 Received: from cpca11.uea.ac.uk by mailgate1.uea.ac.uk with SMTP (PP UEA); Tue, 26 May 1998 23:20:57 +0100 Received: from cpca5.uea.ac.uk [139.222.130.5] by cpca11.uea.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0yeS5X-0000NE-00; Tue, 26 May 1998 23:20:55 +0100 Received: from u9530037 by cpca5.uea.ac.uk with local (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0yeS5W-0004bm-00; Tue, 26 May 1998 23:20:54 +0100 Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 23:20:54 +0100 (BST) From: John Houston X-Sender: u9530037@cpca5.uea.ac.uk To: arm-linux Subject: Re: EtherLan 600 In-Reply-To: <199805262146.WAA03617@raistlin.armlinux.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Thanks for everyone's help with this, I now have linux running and I can connect to the net and everything - hurray! John unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 27 18:17:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA23220 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 18:17:24 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA13197 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 18:17:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:16739 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2930-668>; Wed, 27 May 1998 20:17:48 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970917-21547>; Wed, 27 May 1998 12:24:30 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:38740 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970892-21547>; Wed, 27 May 1998 12:24:02 -0400 Received: from mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA11162 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 19:16:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from aixterm7.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixterm7.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.47]) by mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA29412 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 19:16:18 +0200 Received: (from shanske@localhost) by aixterm7.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id TAA68636; Wed, 27 May 1998 19:16:17 +0200 (METDST) Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 19:16:17 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixterm7.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Something makes gcc crash on my A5000 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Tue, 26 May 1998, dooby wrote: > I actually did the RedHat install on a SA RPC - could this be the problem? If so, can I just reinstall the binutils, gcc, etc. bits (and how?). If not, > can some kind soul compile and send me working binaries of everything I need to compile stuff myself please? > > My RedHat install tree contains this package :- > RedHat/RPMS/binutils-2.7-1a2.arm.rpm > > The machine then proceeds to bring up similar messages to the above when > trying to run almost anything - including rebooting, and is generally > stuffed. > > Any ideas anyone? TIA, Yes, you're right. The problem is the fpemulator(s) since there're two of them. One for older ARM machines and one for RPC's. There is a link set up in /lib/modules/misc (I think, try looking for fpem* in /lib/modules). Since you installed on a SA RPC the link will be set to version 4 of fpem. You need to change this link to point to fpem version 2.87. ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 27 18:37:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA23322 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 18:37:28 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA13201 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 18:38:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:44041 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2454-669>; Wed, 27 May 1998 20:37:34 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970917-21547>; Wed, 27 May 1998 12:40:20 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:43532 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970983-21547>; Wed, 27 May 1998 12:39:51 -0400 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.218.162]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA11809 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 19:32:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixgraf1) id AA29697; Wed, 27 May 1998 19:31:45 +0200 Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 19:31:44 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixgraf1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Problems with X Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Has anyone managed to compile the Qt library on an ARM710/ARM710a???? Could anyone try please and send me a message wether the demo progs work??? (qt's available from ftp.troll.no/qt/source/qt-1.33.tar.gz) ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed May 27 19:43:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA23435 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 19:43:09 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA13222 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 19:43:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:26237 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2645-668>; Wed, 27 May 1998 21:43:25 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970917-21547>; Wed, 27 May 1998 13:50:12 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1369 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970909-21547>; Wed, 27 May 1998 13:47:44 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup2.cymru.net [163.164.160.66]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id TAA24706; Wed, 27 May 1998 19:40:04 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA18743; Wed, 27 May 1998 19:29:06 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id TAA00476; Wed, 27 May 1998 19:29:29 +0100 Message-Id: <199805271829.TAA00476@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Loadmap and Filecore problems on an A5000 To: tonyh@tcp.co.uk (Tony Houghton) Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 19:29:28 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Tony Houghton" at May 26, 98 11:06:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Tony Houghton writes: > Where do I get the upgrade from? The FTP site: ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/RedHat/RPMS/loadmap*.arm.rpm, and look for the one with the highest number (should be the only one there). _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 28 12:50:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA24662 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 12:50:00 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13346 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 12:50:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:39696 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2058-669>; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:50:30 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970905-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 06:54:33 -0400 Received: from heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.32.11]:3245 "HELO heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970861-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 06:54:18 -0400 Received: from cowslip.cl.cam.ac.uk (cl.cam.ac.uk) [128.232.3.212] (rjb45) by heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yf1Bo-0001ll-00; Thu, 28 May 1998 12:49:44 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma+CL 97/01/24 To: ARM Linux Subject: RedHat installer hates my Ethernet card! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 12:49:43 +0100 From: Richard Bradbury Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Having a spot of bother installing ARM Linux on a 12MByte RiscPC 600 with two different Ethernet cards inside: one is an Atomwide Ether3 card in podule slot 0 and the other is an ANT EtherB card in the network slot. Removing the Ether3 doesn't help. Any ideas for coercing the RedHat installer into recognising either of these? I'm using the 1998/05/03 root disk with a 2.0.33 kernel. The console on Alt-F3 reads: * running: /bin/insmod /bin/insmod /modules/ether3.o * insmod failed! Why is insmod mentioned twice? Ta, -- Richard. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 28 13:13:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA24743 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 13:13:50 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13354 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 13:14:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:18460 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2628-670>; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:14:00 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970929-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 07:18:04 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:8227 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971043-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 07:16:20 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id NAA24731; Thu, 28 May 1998 13:10:57 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805281210.NAA24731@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: RedHat installer hates my Ethernet card! To: Richard.Bradbury@cl.cam.ac.uk (Richard Bradbury) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 13:10:56 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Richard Bradbury" at May 28, 98 12:49:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Richard Bradbury > > Having a spot of bother installing ARM Linux on a 12MByte RiscPC 600 with > two different Ethernet cards inside: one is an Atomwide Ether3 card in > podule slot 0 and the other is an ANT EtherB card in the network slot. > Removing the Ether3 doesn't help. Does your machine have a StrongARM in? Have you tried removing the EtherB and just using the Ether3 instead? -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 28 14:13:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA24912 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:13:49 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13367 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:14:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:63843 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2372-666>; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:14:23 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971024-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 08:18:11 -0400 Received: from heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.32.11]:4104 "HELO heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971058-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 08:17:59 -0400 Received: from cowslip.cl.cam.ac.uk (cl.cam.ac.uk) [128.232.3.212] (rjb45) by heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yf2Ut-0008FY-00; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:13:31 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma+CL 97/01/24 To: ARM Linux Subject: Re: RedHat installer hates my Ethernet card! In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 28 May 1998 13:10:56 BST." <199805281210.NAA24731@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 14:13:29 +0100 From: Richard Bradbury Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Thu, 28 May 1998 13:10:56, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > Have you tried removing the EtherB and just using the Ether3 instead? This did the trick: it was the ANT EtherB card causing the trouble, not the Atomwide Ether3 as I had suspected: loading device 'eth0'... eth0: ether3 found at 800000000, IRQ32, ether address 00:02:07:00:fe:50 loading device 'eth1'... eth1: unable to identify podule bus width Can anyone explain why the EtherB card is causing problems? -- Richard. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 28 14:16:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA24922 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:16:10 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13371 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:16:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:63843 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2372-668>; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:16:45 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971024-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 08:20:52 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:45868 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971042-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 08:20:35 -0400 Received: from mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03259 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:16:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from aixterm7.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixterm7.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.47]) by mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA39672 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:16:03 +0200 Received: (from shanske@localhost) by aixterm7.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id PAA48242; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:16:02 +0200 (METDST) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 15:16:02 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixterm7.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: mtools 3.6 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO There is a patch for mtools 3.6 available under http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske/links. The problem with mtools I had was that gcc didn't layout the structure vfat_subentry as it's ment to be and since this struct is written to disc 'as is' (as a block of memory instead of fields) this is a problem that corrupts discs. Have a look at the following code: struct unicode_char { char lchar; char uchar; }; struct vfat_subentry { ... struct unicode_char text1[x] PACKED; ... }; This should advise gcc to create x copies of unicode_char in vfat_subentry, allocating 2*x bytes of memory. I don't know why but gcc makes it use 4 bytes per copy instead. Thats what I called the PACKED bug. Any suggestions?? Is this repeatable on other machines??? ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 28 14:25:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA24937 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:25:19 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13375 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:26:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:33385 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2741-670>; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:25:48 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971060-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 08:28:23 -0400 Received: from ws-mj5.dur.ac.uk ([129.234.213.10]:36330 "EHLO SMLtd.Com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971064-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 08:28:02 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by SMLtd.Com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA10400 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:20:57 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: gatekeeper.smltd.com: mail set sender to using -f Received: from dse3.smltd.com(129.234.213.7) by gatekeeper via smap (V2.0beta) id xma010398; Thu, 28 May 98 14:20:37 +0100 Received: from sml1 by dse3.durham.mj (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA03210; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:26:11 +0100 Message-Id: <9805281326.AA03210@dse3.durham.mj> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 14:20:25 +0100 (BST) From: Martin.Ward@SMLtd.Com (Martin Ward) Subject: backups To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Reply-To: Martin.Ward@SMLtd.Com X-Mailer: MMail B2.25 (contact: mmail@atelier.demon.co.uk) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO A simple question: How can I back up a complete partition as an image file using RiscOs? Background: I want to install Linux! I have already partitioned my IDE drive and installed NetBSD (the installer looked a bit easier than Linux, so I thought I would have a play with that one first!). I have a jaz drive on a Castle SCSI card which I can use for backups, but neither BSD nor Linux can use it currently and there is not enough room on my IDE drive for both Linux and BSD. Martin Martin.Ward@durham.ac.uk http://www.dur.ac.uk/~dcs0mpw/ Maintainer of the G.K.Chesterton web site: http://www.dur.ac.uk/~dcs0mpw/gkc/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 28 14:26:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA24942 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:26:08 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13378 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:26:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:63857 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2392-669>; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:26:40 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971043-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 08:30:36 -0400 Received: from relay1.UU.NET ([192.48.96.5]:1564 "EHLO relay1.UU.NET" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971024-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 08:30:14 -0400 Received: from xedia.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: madway.xedia.com [198.202.232.199]) id QQerib23236; Thu, 28 May 1998 09:25:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tonga.xedia.com by xedia.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02880; Thu, 28 May 98 09:26:02 EDT Received: by tonga.xedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA21800; Thu, 28 May 1998 09:25:17 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 09:25:17 -0400 Message-Id: <199805281325.JAA21800@tonga.xedia.com> From: Paul Koning Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: mtools 3.6 References: X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >>>>> "Stefan" == Stefan Hanske writes: Stefan> The problem with mtools I had was that gcc didn't layout the Stefan> structure vfat_subentry as it's ment to be and since this Stefan> struct is written to disc 'as is' (as a block of memory Stefan> instead of fields) this is a problem that corrupts Stefan> discs. Have a look at the following code: struct unicode_char { char lchar; char uchar; }; struct vfat_subentry { ... struct unicode_char text1[x] PACKED; ... }; Stefan> This should advise gcc to create x copies of unicode_char in Stefan> vfat_subentry, allocating 2*x bytes of memory. I don't know Stefan> why but gcc makes it use 4 bytes per copy instead. Stefan> Thats what I called the PACKED bug. Any suggestions?? Is this Stefan> repeatable on other machines??? I once made the assumption that the standard alignment and sizing of data items (each primitive of n bytes is aligned/sized to n bytes) is the exact standard alignment/size rule. C/C++ language experts pointed out that this is not true; the standard says that it is the MINIMUM alignment and implementations may force larger alignment. So the minimum size of struct unicode_char is 2 and the minimum alignment is 1, but implementations are allowed to increase that. Most don't, but ARM does. This has caused problems in lots of places that make the same assumption I did... You might try one of the following: struct unicode_char { char lchar; char uchar; } PACKED; or struct unicode_char { char lchar PACKED; char uchar PACKED; }; So what this means, if I understood everything right, is that the bug is in mtools (for making a language assumption not supported by the standard) rather than in gcc. paul unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 28 14:37:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA24958 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:37:03 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13382 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:37:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:36727 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2611-669>; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:37:39 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970999-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 08:41:35 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:51727 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971037-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 08:41:24 -0400 Received: from mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA04926 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:36:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from aixterm7.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixterm7.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.47]) by mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16698 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:36:09 +0200 Received: (from shanske@localhost) by aixterm7.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id PAA66660; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:36:08 +0200 (METDST) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 15:36:08 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixterm7.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: mtools 3.6 In-Reply-To: <199805281325.JAA21800@tonga.xedia.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Thu, 28 May 1998, Paul Koning wrote: > You might try one of the following: > > struct unicode_char { > char lchar; > char uchar; > } PACKED; > > or > > struct unicode_char { > char lchar PACKED; > char uchar PACKED; > }; > I tried, no success. I think I've tried nearly everything to keep the structure of vfat_subentry as is but there was no way. ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 28 15:15:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA24989 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:15:45 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA13387 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:16:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:47905 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2529-668>; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:16:04 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971003-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 09:19:37 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:14450 "HELO globe" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971001-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 09:19:21 -0400 Received: from (spring.nexus.co.uk) [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yf3Mz-0000pg-00; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:09:25 +0100 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yf3My-0000Cu-00; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:09:24 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Paul Koning cc: shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: mtools 3.6 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 28 May 1998 09:25:17 EDT." <199805281325.JAA21800@tonga.xedia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 15:09:23 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >So what this means, if I understood everything right, is that the bug >is in mtools (for making a language assumption not supported by the >standard) rather than in gcc. That's right. You can often use __attribute__ to turn off this padding, but you shouldn't rely on it in code that's supposed to be portable. And there are times when even that isn't sufficient, for example the infamous `unaligned short' problem. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 28 15:20:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA25002 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:20:11 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA13395 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:20:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:47905 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2945-669>; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:20:41 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971022-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 09:24:44 -0400 Received: from relay5.UU.NET ([192.48.96.15]:3928 "EHLO relay5.UU.NET" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971003-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 09:24:32 -0400 Received: from xedia.com by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: madway.xedia.com [198.202.232.199]) id QQerif19374; Thu, 28 May 1998 10:20:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tonga.xedia.com by xedia.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03507; Thu, 28 May 98 10:20:45 EDT Received: by tonga.xedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA25776; Thu, 28 May 1998 10:19:54 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 10:19:54 -0400 Message-Id: <199805281419.KAA25776@tonga.xedia.com> From: Paul Koning Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pb@nexus.co.uk Cc: shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: mtools 3.6 References: <199805281325.JAA21800@tonga.xedia.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >>>>> "Philip" == Philip Blundell writes: >> So what this means, if I understood everything right, is that the >> bug is in mtools (for making a language assumption not supported >> by the standard) rather than in gcc. Philip> That's right. You can often use __attribute__ to turn off Philip> this padding, but you shouldn't rely on it in code that's Philip> supposed to be portable. And there are times when even that Philip> isn't sufficient, for example the infamous `unaligned short' Philip> problem. That's fine when you don't say "packed" but I would argue that packed structs shouldn't be treated that way. I remember someone claiming that the compiler should be entitled to pad things even if they are marked "packed" -- I objected strongly then and will continue to do so. So if it's not possible to make the right thing happen with application of "packed" in all the right places, then I would say there IS a compiler bug. After all, what sense does it make to have "packed" that doesn't pack? paul unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 28 15:55:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA25042 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:55:29 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA13402 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:56:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:48218 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2823-668>; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:55:45 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971072-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 09:59:06 -0400 Received: from mrbounce.compsoc.man.ac.uk ([192.84.78.5]:27208 "EHLO mrbounce.compsoc.man.ac.uk" ident: "roger") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971061-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 09:55:30 -0400 Received: (from roger@localhost) by mrbounce.compsoc.man.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.4) id PAA29899 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:51:37 +0100 From: Roger Lynn Message-Id: <199805281451.PAA29899@mrbounce.compsoc.man.ac.uk> Subject: Re: FPU Emulator To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 15:51:37 +0100 (BST) Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Russell King wrote: > Phil, you're probably using 2.87, which does have accuracy problems. 4.07 > is apparantly ok, but that's for 32-bit machines. It also works on 26-bit machines (under RISC OS). The RISC OS RC5 client crashes without it. Roger unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 28 16:04:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA25046 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:04:22 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13406 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:05:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:10345 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2238-666>; Thu, 28 May 1998 18:04:52 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971064-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 10:08:40 -0400 Received: from pecan.acorn.co.uk ([136.170.131.22]:63077 "HELO pecan.acorn.co.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971065-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 10:08:26 -0400 Received: from acorn.co.uk by pecan.acorn.co.uk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA19520; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:03:44 +0100 Message-ID: <356D7CCF.FA6F88BB@acorn.co.uk> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 16:03:43 +0100 From: Chris Berry Organization: Acorn Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: FPU Emulator References: <199805281451.PAA29899@mrbounce.compsoc.man.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Roger Lynn wrote: > > It also works on 26-bit machines (under RISC OS). The RISC OS RC5 > client crashes without it. > FYI, the newest versions of the RISC OS RC5 client no longer needs the FPU emulator. It's come a long way recently, largely because I've stopped doing the builds :-) Chris. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 28 17:59:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA25242 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:59:29 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA13421 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 18:00:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:59261 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3044-670>; Thu, 28 May 1998 19:59:45 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971109-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 12:02:49 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:2819 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971100-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 11:57:59 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (RAA05984); Thu, 28 May 1998 17:53:53 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 17:53:53 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: Martin Ward cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: backups In-Reply-To: <9805281326.AA03210@dse3.durham.mj> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Thu, 28 May 1998, Martin Ward wrote: > A simple question: How can I back up a complete partition as an image file > using RiscOs? This would involve reading all the sectors using the correct FileCore SWIs and saving them into a file (not amazingly surprising). I mentioned in my email about IscaFS that I was planning a filing system which would pretend that your ext2 partition(s) were ext2 image files, and if that were implemented, copying your partitions to files would simply be a case of typing: *copy WhateverFS::4.$ ADFS::4.$.imagefile Since the root object ($) of the WhateverFS would be read as if it were an image file. However, since that isn't a possibility the only option is to read the entire partition and blat it to a file. I think I have a BASIC program lurking somewhere which, with a little modification, could do this. I'll have a look when I get home. Bye, Phil -- Rule of programming #2: Everything that can go wrong will go wrong, but only on other people's configurations. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 28 18:29:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA25318 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 18:29:33 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA13425 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 18:30:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:16432 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2939-670>; Thu, 28 May 1998 20:30:11 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971109-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 12:31:18 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:46900 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971108-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 12:31:11 -0400 Received: from latrigg.demon.co.uk ([158.152.64.157]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2015397; 28 May 98 17:16 GMT Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 18:16:30 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Pringle Subject: Linux keeps having Internal errors To: Linux Mailing List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: At Home, 01285 713514 X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.45] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I have now installed linux on my A5000, but every time I try to boot I get an internal error. The boot then carries on, and another internal error. In all I get about 50. They pass to quick to read but the last line says : code : pc not in code space When it eventually boots and gives me a login prompt, I can type root and my password and then I get an internal error and it takes me back to the login prompt. Why is it doing this? Can anyone help? Regards, --- Chris Pringle 22, St. Mary's Drive, Fairford, Glos. GL7 4LQ P.S.Check out My web site at http://www.latrigg.demon.co.uk/Chris/index.html unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 28 18:59:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA25360 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 18:59:17 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA13430 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 19:00:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:45922 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2301-668>; Thu, 28 May 1998 20:59:54 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970860-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 13:02:54 -0400 Received: from heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.32.11]:3059 "HELO heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970812-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 13:02:46 -0400 Received: from cowslip.cl.cam.ac.uk (cl.cam.ac.uk) [128.232.3.212] (rjb45) by heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yf6xE-0004F4-00; Thu, 28 May 1998 18:59:04 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma+CL 97/01/24 To: ARM Linux Subject: invalid bmap magic In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Sep 1997 22:07:04 BST." <199709182107.WAA00999@raistlin.armlinux.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 18:59:01 +0100 From: Richard Bradbury Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I've a nasty feeling something has gone slightly wrong with my installations of ARM Linux this afternoon (all three of them!). I'm reasonably happy that the base RedHat distribution is finding its way onto /dev/hda3 (I've checked with IscaFS), but the kernel doesn't mount it as / when it is started using the -bootkernel option of the Linux loader. Instead, it just prompts me for the root floppy. Double clicking on !Linux gives the error "invalid bmap magic in first sector of partition". What have I done wrong? Is it related to the "can't find kernel" error I encounter at the end of the RedHat installation? Thanks, -- Richard. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 28 19:05:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA25372 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 19:05:58 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA13438 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 19:06:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:8299 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2705-669>; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:05:45 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970812-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 13:08:48 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:10483 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971133-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 13:08:06 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (TAA09160); Thu, 28 May 1998 19:04:21 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 19:04:21 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: Richard Bradbury cc: ARM Linux Subject: Re: invalid bmap magic In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Thu, 28 May 1998, Richard Bradbury wrote: > I've a nasty feeling something has gone slightly wrong with my installations > of ARM Linux this afternoon (all three of them!). > > I'm reasonably happy that the base RedHat distribution is finding its way > onto /dev/hda3 (I've checked with IscaFS), but the kernel doesn't mount it ^^^^^^ :-) > as / when it is started using the -bootkernel option of the Linux loader. > Instead, it just prompts me for the root floppy. When it starts booting and asks: Input extra arguments: (or something similar) type 'root=/dev/hda3'. This tells linux which partition to mount as /. Bye, Phil -- Rule of programming #3: The number of bugs which exist in a program is approximately equal to the square of the number of bugs which you think exist. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 28 19:20:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA25411 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 19:20:51 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA13442 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 19:21:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:44407 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2524-666>; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:21:21 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970884-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 13:24:15 -0400 Received: from carbon.uunet.be ([194.7.1.21]:2371 "EHLO carbon.uunet.be" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971128-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 13:22:39 -0400 Received: from suninbar (suninbar.barco.com [194.7.240.2]) by carbon.uunet.be (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA17618 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 20:19:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from barco.com (intranet3.barco.com [150.158.0.126]) by suninbar (SMI-8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA24530; Thu, 28 May 1998 20:14:21 +0200 Message-ID: <356DAA13.69D4EE5B@barco.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 20:16:51 +0200 From: John Tytgat Organization: Barco Graphics NV X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: backups References: <9805281326.AA03210@dse3.durham.mj> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Martin Ward wrote: > A simple question: How can I back up a complete partition as an image file > using RiscOs? Ah you need FCFS, an excellent backup utility from Nick Craig-Wood and Sergio Monesi. It is shareware btw. Have a look at : http://www.axis.demon.co.uk/software.html Regards, John. -- John Tytgat And Bill said: "What's a network?" John.Tytgat@barco.com http://www.idg.co.nz/interview/Hauser.html unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 28 20:38:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA25621 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 20:38:44 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA13451 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 20:39:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:59403 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2159-669>; Thu, 28 May 1998 22:39:23 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971124-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:42:19 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1099 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971146-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:41:55 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA19607; Thu, 28 May 1998 20:38:19 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA20063; Thu, 28 May 1998 20:31:13 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00478; Thu, 28 May 1998 20:31:38 +0100 Message-Id: <199805281931.UAA00478@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: FPU Emulator To: roger@compsoc.man.ac.uk (Roger Lynn) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 20:31:37 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199805281451.PAA29899@mrbounce.compsoc.man.ac.uk> from "Roger Lynn" at May 28, 98 03:51:37 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Roger Lynn writes: > Russell King wrote: > > Phil, you're probably using 2.87, which does have accuracy problems. 4.07 > > is apparantly ok, but that's for 32-bit machines. > > It also works on 26-bit machines (under RISC OS). The RISC OS RC5 > client crashes without it. That may be, but since Linux is a 32-bit OS under new machines, the FPEm is also 32-bit, and as such expects the ARM6 msr/mrs extensions to be there. This prevents the FPEm from running correctly on the ARM3 machines. (In fact, because of this, and a difference in the stack structure between the two machines for the same reason, it is not possible to build one fpemulator that runs on both machines). _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 28 20:39:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA25625 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 20:39:02 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA13454 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 20:39:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:59403 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2500-666>; Thu, 28 May 1998 22:39:32 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971146-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:42:25 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1117 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971152-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:42:01 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA19614; Thu, 28 May 1998 20:38:24 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA20079; Thu, 28 May 1998 20:33:53 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00491; Thu, 28 May 1998 20:34:17 +0100 Message-Id: <199805281934.UAA00491@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: backups To: P.C.F.Norman@exeter.ac.uk (Phil Norman) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 20:34:17 +0100 (BST) Cc: Martin.Ward@SMLtd.Com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Phil Norman" at May 28, 98 05:53:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Phil Norman writes: > > A simple question: How can I back up a complete partition as an image file > > using RiscOs? > > This would involve reading all the sectors using the correct FileCore > SWIs and saving them into a file (not amazingly surprising). I mentioned > in my email about IscaFS that I was planning a filing system which would > pretend that your ext2 partition(s) were ext2 image files > ... Due to the large number of partition types out there (up to 5 now), I would strongly suggest using my Partition interface for accessing the partitions. It allows you to read/write the partitions by partition ID/sector offset (but is of course limited to the first 512MB on old machines). The library is very portable, but because it is RiscOS based, it's hard to maintain multiple copies. ;( _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 28 21:47:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA25688 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:47:52 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA13464 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:48:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:10544 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2810-670>; Thu, 28 May 1998 23:48:30 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971159-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:51:15 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:22837 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971178-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:47:01 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (VAA22740); Thu, 28 May 1998 21:43:34 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 21:43:33 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: backups In-Reply-To: <199805281934.UAA00491@raistlin.armlinux.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Thu, 28 May 1998, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > Due to the large number of partition types out there (up to 5 now), I would > strongly suggest using my Partition interface for accessing the partitions. > It allows you to read/write the partitions by partition ID/sector offset > (but is of course limited to the first 512MB on old machines). The > library is very portable, but because it is RiscOS based, it's hard to > maintain multiple copies. ;( Ah. That's the first I've heard about this library actually - I might have a look at it in the future (ie after my exams are over) but for now I've quickly modified a program I wrote back in '97 while researching into partitioning for ExeterFS (the precursor to IscaFS). It seems to work OK, but has only had one very quick and simple test. I'm just about to email it to Martin and if anyone else wants a copy please drop me a line and I'll send it (it's a 2.7k zip file). It only copes with the ADFS partitioning system (partitioning system? har har) however, so it's only of real use to people using IDE on a RiscPC (or A7000). Anyway, drop me a line if you want a copy, Phil -- Rule of programming #5: If a C program gives more than 50 compiler errors, you've missed out a semicolon. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 28 22:30:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA25843 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 22:30:07 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA13475 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 22:30:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:21600 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2654-668>; Fri, 29 May 1998 00:28:52 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971007-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:31:21 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:10782 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971084-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:30:29 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id WAA25805; Thu, 28 May 1998 22:26:15 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805282126.WAA25805@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: RedHat installer hates my Ethernet card! To: Richard.Bradbury@cl.cam.ac.uk (Richard Bradbury) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 22:26:14 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Richard Bradbury" at May 28, 98 02:13:29 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Richard Bradbury > > On Thu, 28 May 1998 13:10:56, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > > > Have you tried removing the EtherB and just using the Ether3 instead? > > This did the trick: it was the ANT EtherB card causing the trouble, not the > Atomwide Ether3 as I had suspected: > > loading device 'eth0'... > eth0: ether3 found at 800000000, IRQ32, ether address 00:02:07:00:fe:50 > loading device 'eth1'... > eth1: unable to identify podule bus width > > Can anyone explain why the EtherB card is causing problems? I might be able to speculate had you answered my first question instead of snipping it. Do you have a strongarm? -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 28 22:30:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA25845 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 22:30:08 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA13478 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 22:30:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:21600 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2807-666>; Fri, 29 May 1998 00:30:03 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971117-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:32:55 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:10786 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971060-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:32:37 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id WAA25821; Thu, 28 May 1998 22:28:24 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805282128.WAA25821@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: invalid bmap magic To: P.C.F.Norman@exeter.ac.uk (Phil Norman) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 22:28:23 +0100 (BST) Cc: Richard.Bradbury@cl.cam.ac.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Phil Norman" at May 28, 98 07:04:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Phil Norman > (or something similar) type 'root=/dev/hda3'. This tells linux which > partition to mount as /. And to stop fsck complaining about / already being writable and confusing the hell out of new users, you should instead type `root=/dev/hda3 ro' -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 28 22:35:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA25882 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 22:35:58 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA13487 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 22:36:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:3689 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2766-668>; Fri, 29 May 1998 00:36:22 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971133-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:39:05 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:10795 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971131-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:38:45 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id WAA25864; Thu, 28 May 1998 22:34:34 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805282134.WAA25864@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: invalid bmap magic To: Richard.Bradbury@cl.cam.ac.uk (Richard Bradbury) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 22:34:33 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Richard Bradbury" at May 28, 98 06:59:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Richard Bradbury > Double clicking on !Linux gives the error "invalid bmap magic in first > sector of partition". What have I done wrong? Is it related to the "can't > find kernel" error I encounter at the end of the RedHat installation? This is in the FAQ; http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux/faq.html Question 17. Question 6 is also relevant. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 28 22:49:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA25946 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 22:49:12 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA13492 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 22:50:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:38769 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2130-666>; Fri, 29 May 1998 00:49:43 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971157-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:52:17 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:10803 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971131-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:50:54 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id WAA25905; Thu, 28 May 1998 22:46:51 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805282146.WAA25905@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Linux keeps having Internal errors To: cpringle@latrigg.demon.co.uk (Chris Pringle) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 22:46:51 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Chris Pringle" at May 28, 98 06:16:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Chris Pringle > I have now installed linux on my A5000, but every time I try to boot I get an > internal error. The boot then carries on, and another internal error. In all > I get about 50. They pass to quick to read but the last line says : > code : pc not in code space Some toptips here which people probably aren't aware of. Scroll Lock does actually work. And all kernel messages (including the boot ones) get logged to /var/log/messages. Also, just the last line is not useful; we really need quite a lot more detail than that. Probably a dozen lines or so is good; no-one's going to bitch at you for sending that much. Indeed, hundred-line bug reports to linux-kernel are not unknown. Russell's going to hate me for saying that ;-) > When it eventually boots and gives me a login prompt, I can type root and my > password and then I get an internal error and it takes me back to the login > prompt. Why is it doing this? Can anyone help? My guess is that what is going on is that insmod is failing to load the FPEm. This may be because you have the wrong symlink set - and it's trying to load the 4.xx version instead of 2.87. But if you say there are lots of these errors, it may be that insmod is failing to run, in which case you need to replace the insmod that was installed with a later one. Either the one on the boot-floppy, which I guess worked for you? Or try getting the latest from the ftp site in the module-2.0.0 RPM. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 28 23:10:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA26132 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 23:10:34 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA13498 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 23:11:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:50558 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2075-670>; Fri, 29 May 1998 01:11:04 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970999-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:11:38 -0400 Received: from poseidon.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.34]:48585 "EHLO poseidon.tcp.net.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971178-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:07:46 -0400 Received: from tonyh (du-125.tcp.co.uk [195.80.1.125]) by poseidon.tcp.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8+antispam) with SMTP id XAA16506 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 23:04:34 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 21:16:26 +0100 From: Tony Houghton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Loadmap and Filecore problems on an A5000 Message-ID: <46cc7a4d48%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <199805271829.TAA00476@raistlin.armlinux.org> X-Organization: Home X-Mailer: Messenger v1.38 for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.21beta MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60j X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO In message <199805271829.TAA00476@raistlin.armlinux.org> Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > Tony Houghton writes: > > Where do I get the upgrade from? > > The FTP site: > ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/RedHat/RPMS/loadmap*.arm.rpm, > and look for the one with the highest number (should be the only one > there). Oh yes, it's one of only two files AFAICT that are newer than the ones on the Clan disc, so I missed them before. -- \_________________ \ http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~tonyh/ The Curling Pages \ The home of WinEd, Bombz and POPstar for RISC OS unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 28 23:36:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA26185 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 23:36:43 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA13503 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 23:37:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:8240 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2903-668>; Fri, 29 May 1998 01:37:25 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971163-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:39:31 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:11396 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971133-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:39:06 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id XAA26173; Thu, 28 May 1998 23:35:01 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805282235.XAA26173@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Loadmap and Filecore problems on an A5000 To: tonyh@tcp.co.uk (Tony Houghton) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 23:35:00 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <46cc7a4d48%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> from "Tony Houghton" at May 28, 98 09:16:26 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Tony Houghton > > In message <199805271829.TAA00476@raistlin.armlinux.org> > Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > > > Tony Houghton writes: > > > Where do I get the upgrade from? > > > > The FTP site: > > ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/RedHat/RPMS/loadmap*.arm.rpm, > > and look for the one with the highest number (should be the only one > > there). > > Oh yes, it's one of only two files AFAICT that are newer than the ones > on the Clan disc, so I missed them before. Try looking in .../RedHat/new-rpms/. I think all those in there had been modified. pcn, is this in your installation guide? If not, it should be. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu May 28 23:47:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA26205 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 23:47:49 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA13508 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 23:48:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:2634 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2643-666>; Fri, 29 May 1998 01:48:15 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971133-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:50:51 -0400 Received: from poseidon.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.34]:49037 "EHLO poseidon.tcp.net.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971117-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:50:31 -0400 Received: from tonyh (du-125.tcp.co.uk [195.80.1.125]) by poseidon.tcp.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8+antispam) with SMTP id XAA18605 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 23:47:27 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 23:45:12 +0100 From: Tony Houghton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Loadmap and Filecore problems on an A5000 Message-ID: <226b884d48%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <199805282235.XAA26173@odie.barnet.ac.uk> X-Organization: Home X-Mailer: Messenger v1.38 for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.21beta MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60j X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO In message <199805282235.XAA26173@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Matthew Wilcox wrote: > Tony Houghton > > > > Oh yes, it's one of only two files AFAICT that are newer than the ones > > on the Clan disc, so I missed them before. > > Try looking in .../RedHat/new-rpms/. I think all those in there had been > modified. pcn, is this in your installation guide? If not, it should be. Hm, they're just links to the ones in ../RedHat/RPMS which don't *appear* to be newer than the ones on the CD. -- \_________________ \ http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~tonyh/ The Curling Pages \ The home of WinEd, Bombz and POPstar for RISC OS unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri May 29 00:07:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA26266 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 00:07:27 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA13543 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 00:08:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:37972 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2445-669>; Fri, 29 May 1998 02:07:58 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971165-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 18:10:20 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:11909 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971133-21547>; Thu, 28 May 1998 18:10:02 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id AAA26253; Fri, 29 May 1998 00:06:04 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805282306.AAA26253@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Loadmap and Filecore problems on an A5000 To: tonyh@tcp.co.uk (Tony Houghton) Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 00:06:04 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <226b884d48%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> from "Tony Houghton" at May 28, 98 11:45:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Tony Houghton > > In message <199805282235.XAA26173@odie.barnet.ac.uk> > Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > > Tony Houghton > > > > > > Oh yes, it's one of only two files AFAICT that are newer than the ones > > > on the Clan disc, so I missed them before. > > > > Try looking in .../RedHat/new-rpms/. I think all those in there had been > > modified. pcn, is this in your installation guide? If not, it should be. > > Hm, they're just links to the ones in ../RedHat/RPMS which don't > *appear* to be newer than the ones on the CD. That's right, they're just links, but it saves you from checking _all_ the files. There have been several less-than-authorised distributions, and those RPMS have been updated relative to the _first_ (known) one going out. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From richard.bradbury@cl.cam.ac.uk Fri May 29 09:37:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: from heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk (exim@heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.32.11]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id JAA26722 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 09:37:52 +0100 Received: from cowslip.cl.cam.ac.uk (cl.cam.ac.uk) [128.232.3.212] (rjb45) by heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yfKgZ-0006Sr-00; Fri, 29 May 1998 09:38:47 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma+CL 97/01/24 To: Matthew Wilcox cc: ARM Linux Subject: Re: RedHat installer hates my Ethernet card! In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 28 May 1998 22:26:14 BST." <199805282126.WAA25805@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 09:38:45 +0100 From: Richard Bradbury Message-Id: Status: RO On Thu, 28 May 1998 22:26:14, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > > Can anyone explain why the EtherB card is causing problems? > > Do you have a strongarm? No: ARM610 and a revision 1 motherboard. -- Richard. From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri May 29 10:03:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA26762 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 10:03:40 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA13596 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 10:04:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:12837 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2264-669>; Fri, 29 May 1998 12:02:50 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971250-21547>; Fri, 29 May 1998 04:03:42 -0400 Received: from osmium.gn.iaf.nl ([193.67.144.12]:1932 "HELO uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971251-21547>; Fri, 29 May 1998 04:03:23 -0400 Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA29603 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu); Fri, 29 May 1998 10:35:56 +0200 Received: from athene.kitt.nl (athene.kitt.nl [192.168.4.33]) by amaryl.kitt.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA00836 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 10:35:50 +0200 Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 10:36:45 +0000 (GMT) From: Angelo Melis Subject: compiling ? To: linux mailing list Illegal-Object: Syntax error in Message-Id: value found on vger.rutgers.edu: Message-Id: Status: RO Hello, I am new to this list and yesterday I installed a subset of the RPMS. Then I tried to compile something with GCC, but I get complaints that de include files linux/types.h and linux/signal.h cannot be found. After looking in the /usr/include directory I didn't find the linux directory, so I think I forgot to install a package. But I cannot figure out which package that should be. Can someone please tell me in which package the linux include files are stored ? Thanks in advance, Angelo -- Angelo Melis Software Engineer email: angelo@kitt.nl quote of the day: IN california, everyone either goes to a therapist, is a therapist, or is a therapist going to a therapist. Truman Capotte unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri May 29 11:02:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA26794 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 11:02:04 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13602 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 11:02:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:5718 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2804-668>; Fri, 29 May 1998 13:01:50 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971259-21547>; Fri, 29 May 1998 05:02:38 -0400 Received: from [151.196.69.100] ([151.196.69.100]:41643 "EHLO www-dc-09.digiserve.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971269-21547>; Fri, 29 May 1998 05:02:12 -0400 Received: from pingu.itl.net (ap202-15.itl.net [194.145.15.202]) by www-dc-09.digiserve.com (8.8.2/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA02861 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 06:04:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980529095533.00668edc@etoncomp.demon.co.uk> X-Sender: garanj@etoncomp.demon.co.uk (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 10:55:33 +0100 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu From: Garan Jenkin Subject: FTPing of kernel X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO hi As Matthew has explained to me, compiling a kernel on my scsi drive, with scsi support, for use on my scsi drive, while not having Linux running on an adfs drive to start with, is fairly hard. I thought about it and decided that someone must have compiled a riscpc kernel of some variety with Acorn SCSI card support in for themselves. If so, if any have fast enough links to upload it to an ftp server then I could download it and so use it to compile my own kernel. Obviously I don't care what has been included as long as there is SCSI and ARM610 support. Also, what might be useful is what happens (or used to happen) on the MacBSD website : The directory of users and their machines is searchable, and so for someone like me, who has what used to be a fairly unsupported mac when I used MacBSD (Quadra 610 with internal video and netcard combo- yuk!), I was able to talk to those few who had MacBSD successfully running on similar machines. Also, it meant that when my friend compiled a kernel on my machine which worked for my setup, he was able to distribute it to others with similar machines, so they could boot and compile. Garan unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri May 29 12:23:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA26920 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 12:23:19 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13607 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 12:24:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:49680 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2245-668>; Fri, 29 May 1998 14:22:31 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971094-21547>; Fri, 29 May 1998 06:23:08 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:14481 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971007-21547>; Fri, 29 May 1998 06:22:50 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id MAA26904; Fri, 29 May 1998 12:20:39 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805291120.MAA26904@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: RedHat installer hates my Ethernet card! To: Richard.Bradbury@cl.cam.ac.uk (Richard Bradbury) Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 12:20:38 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Richard Bradbury" at May 29, 98 09:38:45 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Richard Bradbury > > On Thu, 28 May 1998 22:26:14, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > > > > Can anyone explain why the EtherB card is causing problems? > > > > Do you have a strongarm? > > No: ARM610 and a revision 1 motherboard. Then I don't know. Please can you try compiling the latest kernel from the patches provided by Russell on the FTP site, and let us know if the problem still exists. There have been changes to do with card width detection - it fixed my Ether3-with-a-StrongARM bug, so it may have fixed yours too. I have someone working on step-by-step instructions for DIY kernels. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri May 29 12:31:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA26939 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 12:31:11 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13611 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 12:32:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:53528 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2209-669>; Fri, 29 May 1998 14:31:52 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971092-21547>; Fri, 29 May 1998 06:32:30 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:14491 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971007-21547>; Fri, 29 May 1998 06:32:15 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id MAA26929; Fri, 29 May 1998 12:30:10 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805291130.MAA26929@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: compiling ? To: angelo@kitt.nl (Angelo Melis) Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 12:30:09 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <19980529080350Z971250-21547+4218@vger.rutgers.edu> from "Angelo Melis" at May 29, 98 10:36:45 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Angelo Melis > > Hello, > > I am new to this list and yesterday I installed a subset of the RPMS. Then I > tried to compile something with GCC, but I get complaints that de include > files linux/types.h and linux/signal.h cannot be found. After looking in > the /usr/include directory I didn't find the linux directory, so I think I > forgot to install a package. But I cannot figure out which package that > should be. Can someone please tell me in which package the linux include > files are stored ? Mmm. This _is_ a FAQ though it's not ARMLinux specific and as such probably isn't mentioned in Russell's FAQ. The libc we're currently using (libc 4) requires kernel headers in order to compile (almost) anything. libc 6 which we will move t once we have ELF support is much less dependent upon having the kernel headers. There might be an RPM which contains the kernel headers, but personally, I downloaded the linux kernel source (ftp://sunsite.org.uk/Mirrors/ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.0/ linux-2.0.33.tar.gz), unpacked it into /usr/src/linux, downloaded the latest kernel patch from Russell (ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/kernel-sources/v2.0/), patched the kernel to give armlinux support (cd /usr/src/linux; zcat arm-2.0.33.gz | patch -p1), make config (this is important), \and then set up the appropriate symlinks: ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux /usr/include ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm /usr/include ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/scsi /usr/include and then everything should work. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From P.C.F.Norman@exeter.ac.uk Fri May 29 14:30:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: from exeter.ac.uk (hermes.ex.ac.uk [144.173.6.14]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA27068 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 14:30:44 +0100 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (OAA18760); Fri, 29 May 1998 14:31:35 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 14:31:35 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: Matthew Wilcox cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Loadmap and Filecore problems on an A5000 In-Reply-To: <199805282235.XAA26173@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO On Thu, 28 May 1998, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > Try looking in .../RedHat/new-rpms/. I think all those in there had been > modified. pcn, is this in your installation guide? If not, it should be. I'm not completely sure, but I think the Clan disc contains the latest versions of all the RPMs. Please correct me if I'm wrong though. Phil -- Rule of programming #4: The length of time taken to find a bug is directly proportional to its simplicity. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri May 29 14:54:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA27093 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 14:54:02 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13631 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 14:54:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:63032 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2291-668>; Fri, 29 May 1998 16:53:36 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971276-21547>; Fri, 29 May 1998 08:53:28 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:17088 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971281-21547>; Fri, 29 May 1998 08:50:30 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (OAA21278); Fri, 29 May 1998 14:49:50 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 14:49:50 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: ARM Linux Subject: IscaFS 0.05 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi everyone! You know I said I couldn't possibly do another release of IscaFS because of exams? Well, I lied. I just fixed the last known bug yesterday (it only took 5 minutes out of my revision time though, honest!) and so it now looks ready for another release. Main new features in this release: 1: MW's GNU ext2 extensions are now implemented (inc. filesystem naming etc). 2: Various bugs fixed. 3: Group descriptors are now kept in memory for mounted filesystems (resulting in approx. 5% speed increase). Also, filetype writing is now implemented, but this is by default turned off. I'd STRONGLY advise you leave it that way; if you screw up your filesystem(s) by playing around that's your problem. The new cache method I mentioned earlier has not yet been implemented - that'll be something for 0.06, which will hopefully be released a few weeks after my exams end. Anyway, that's about it. IscaFS will be available very soon from the normal ftp place (ftp://ftp.barnet.ac.uk/pub/Acorn/armlinux/iscafs/iscafs.zip), but MW's not about right ATM so it might be about a day before it's actually there. Bye for now, Phil -- Linux: The choice of a GNU generation. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri May 29 14:58:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA27101 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 14:58:01 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13635 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 14:58:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:30272 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2186-666>; Fri, 29 May 1998 16:58:42 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971280-21547>; Fri, 29 May 1998 08:58:37 -0400 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:18993 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971282-21547>; Fri, 29 May 1998 08:58:19 -0400 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (OAA07369); Fri, 29 May 1998 14:57:40 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 14:57:40 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: ARM Linux Subject: Re: IscaFS 0.05 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Slight change of plan with the iscafs uploading - the iscafs 0.05 distrib is on the ftp site as: ftp://ftp.barnet.ac.uk/pub/Acorn/armlinux/iscafs/iscafs.0.05.zip The link (iscafs.zip) is not yet set up to point to the new version (it still points to iscafs.0.04.zip) so make sure you're downloading the right version if the link isn't set up by the time you get to downloading it. Cheers, and sorry for the extra email, Phil -- Linux: The choice of a GNU generation. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri May 29 18:00:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA27459 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 18:00:09 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi ([128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA13646 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 18:01:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:17504 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2250-666>; Fri, 29 May 1998 20:00:27 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971122-21547>; Fri, 29 May 1998 12:00:00 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:16488 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971118-21547>; Fri, 29 May 1998 11:58:28 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id RAA27444; Fri, 29 May 1998 17:57:07 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805291657.RAA27444@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: IscaFS 0.05 To: P.C.F.Norman@exeter.ac.uk (Phil Norman) Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 17:57:06 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Phil Norman" at May 29, 98 02:49:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Phil Norman > Main new features in this release: > > 1: MW's GNU ext2 extensions are now implemented (inc. filesystem > naming etc). This gives *slightly* the wrong impression ;-) These are Dynamic Superblock revision features. As such, they're tytso's extensions and not mine. I added the extra code to handle them, is what Phil meant here. Added bonus, we have initial support for certain things which are planned for Linux 2.3, but none of this code is tested yet. But yes, if you create an ext2 floppy, use tune2fs to name it and pop it in, you'll see the first 10 characters of its name. Good ol' RISC OS. > Anyway, that's about it. IscaFS will be available very soon from the > normal ftp place > (ftp://ftp.barnet.ac.uk/pub/Acorn/armlinux/iscafs/iscafs.zip), but MW's > not about right ATM so it might be about a day before it's actually > there. Sorry, I was in an exam (yeah, yeah. Poor excuse, I know ;-) It's there now. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri May 29 20:02:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA27702 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 20:02:52 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA13663 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 20:03:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:25700 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2577-669>; Fri, 29 May 1998 22:03:39 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971122-21547>; Fri, 29 May 1998 14:03:04 -0400 Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk ([194.131.104.13]:59918 "HELO golden.argonet.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971233-21547>; Fri, 29 May 1998 14:00:33 -0400 Received: from (argbr88) [193.130.252.44] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yfUOC-00028n-00; Fri, 29 May 1998 20:00:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dana K Scully To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 19:56:37 +0100 Message-ID: <484df75382dkscully@argonet.co.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Re: compiling ? In-Reply-To: <199805291130.MAA26929@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On 29 May, Matthew Wilcox wrote: [snip] > Mmm. This _is_ a FAQ though it's not ARMLinux specific and as such > probably isn't mentioned in Russell's FAQ. The libc we're currently > using (libc 4) requires kernel headers in order to compile (almost) > anything. libc 6 which we will move t once we have ELF support is much > less dependent upon having the kernel headers. There might be an RPM > which contains the kernel headers, but personally, I downloaded the > linux kernel source > (ftp://sunsite.org.uk/Mirrors/ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.0/ > linux-2.0.33.tar.gz), unpacked it into /usr/src/linux, downloaded the > latest kernel patch from Russell > (ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/kernel-sources/v2.0/), patched > the kernel to give armlinux support (cd /usr/src/linux; > zcat arm-2.0.33.gz | patch -p1), make config (this is important), [snip] you might also want to edit the file /usr/src/linux/arch/arm/mm/proc-sa110.c the line #include "constants.h" should be #include "../lib/constants.h" This will avoid any nastiness should you decide to compile your own kernel. L * Don't make a big deal out of everything; just deal with everything. -- | |\/| / BSc (Hons) Chemistry (So'ton), ZFC A (Sc) |__esley | |itchell / dkscully@argonet.co.uk A woman of many talents. :) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri May 29 20:51:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA27792 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 20:51:04 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA13676 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 20:52:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:30496 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2695-666>; Fri, 29 May 1998 22:51:40 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971122-21547>; Fri, 29 May 1998 14:51:00 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1308 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971282-21547>; Fri, 29 May 1998 14:42:20 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup4.cymru.net [163.164.160.68]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA12687; Fri, 29 May 1998 20:42:03 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA20162; Thu, 28 May 1998 20:45:18 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00533; Thu, 28 May 1998 20:45:42 +0100 Message-Id: <199805281945.UAA00533@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: RedHat installer hates my Ethernet card! To: Richard.Bradbury@cl.cam.ac.uk (Richard Bradbury) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 20:45:42 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Richard Bradbury" at May 28, 98 02:13:29 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Richard Bradbury writes: > > Have you tried removing the EtherB and just using the Ether3 instead? > > This did the trick: it was the ANT EtherB card causing the trouble, not the > Atomwide Ether3 as I had suspected: > > loading device 'eth0'... > eth0: ether3 found at 800000000, IRQ32, ether address 00:02:07:00:fe:50 > loading device 'eth1'... > eth1: unable to identify podule bus width > > Can anyone explain why the EtherB card is causing problems? I'm not currently sure, but I'll ask - what cards do you have in your other slots? _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri May 29 20:56:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA27817 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 20:56:48 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA13680 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 20:57:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:6719 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2235-668>; Fri, 29 May 1998 22:57:41 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971244-21547>; Fri, 29 May 1998 14:51:12 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1299 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971281-21547>; Fri, 29 May 1998 14:42:18 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup4.cymru.net [163.164.160.68]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA12690; Fri, 29 May 1998 20:42:06 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA20088; Thu, 28 May 1998 20:36:32 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00502; Thu, 28 May 1998 20:36:57 +0100 Message-Id: <199805281936.UAA00502@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: invalid bmap magic To: Richard.Bradbury@cl.cam.ac.uk (Richard Bradbury) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 20:36:56 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Richard Bradbury" at May 28, 98 06:59:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Richard Bradbury writes: > > I've a nasty feeling something has gone slightly wrong with my installations > of ARM Linux this afternoon (all three of them!). > > I'm reasonably happy that the base RedHat distribution is finding its way > onto /dev/hda3 (I've checked with IscaFS), but the kernel doesn't mount it > as / when it is started using the -bootkernel option of the Linux loader. > Instead, it just prompts me for the root floppy. > > Double clicking on !Linux gives the error "invalid bmap magic in first > sector of partition". What have I done wrong? Is it related to the "can't > find kernel" error I encounter at the end of the RedHat installation? > > Thanks, Aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! ;) Please see the FAQ (in the booting/rebooting problem section, last question). _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri May 29 23:35:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA28083 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:35:51 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA13694 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:36:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:37490 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10740-670>; Sat, 30 May 1998 01:36:19 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971126-21547>; Fri, 29 May 1998 17:35:33 -0400 Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk ([194.131.104.13]:62123 "HELO golden.argonet.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971300-21547>; Fri, 29 May 1998 17:35:23 -0400 Received: from (argbr88) [193.130.245.159] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yfXkA-0005IH-00; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:35:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dana K Scully To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 23:35:07 +0100 Message-ID: <484e0b5489dkscully@argonet.co.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Re: CD ROM drives Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Right so, I've compiled my own kernel with support for IDE CDROM drives and stuff. So, my new CD Drive arrived today, its a panasonic 24x one, and works fine under riscos 3.7 using the atapi drivers. Unfortunately, booting into Linux gets as far as recognising the hard drive and the cd rom drive and then stops dead, cursor stops flashing and the system requires a power reset. Anyone have an idea what this might be? L * Is knowledge knowable, and how do we know? -- | |\/| / BSc (Hons) Chemistry (So'ton), ZFC A (Sc) |__esley | |itchell / dkscully@argonet.co.uk A woman of many talents. :) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat May 30 10:41:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA28441 for ; Sat, 30 May 1998 10:41:14 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14404 for ; Sat, 30 May 1998 10:42:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:22320 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11184-670>; Sat, 30 May 1998 12:42:11 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970841-21547>; Sat, 30 May 1998 04:40:11 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1427 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970795-21547>; Sat, 30 May 1998 04:39:54 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup2.cymru.net [163.164.160.66]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id KAA23988; Sat, 30 May 1998 10:41:26 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA21516; Sat, 30 May 1998 10:41:01 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id KAA00513; Sat, 30 May 1998 10:41:25 +0100 Message-Id: <199805300941.KAA00513@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: CD ROM drives To: dkscully@argonet.co.uk (Dana K Scully) Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 10:41:23 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <484e0b5489dkscully@argonet.co.uk> from "Dana K Scully" at May 29, 98 11:35:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Dana K Scully writes: > So, my new CD Drive arrived today, its a panasonic 24x one, and works fine > under riscos 3.7 using the atapi drivers. Unfortunately, booting into > Linux gets as far as recognising the hard drive and the cd rom drive and > then stops dead, cursor stops flashing and the system requires a power > reset. > > Anyone have an idea what this might be? Have you tried booting this kernel without the CD Drive connected? What does the kernels on the FTP site do? _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat May 30 10:43:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA28445 for ; Sat, 30 May 1998 10:43:45 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14408 for ; Sat, 30 May 1998 10:44:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:22320 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11124-669>; Sat, 30 May 1998 12:44:39 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970795-21547>; Sat, 30 May 1998 04:42:33 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1489 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970858-21547>; Sat, 30 May 1998 04:42:20 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup2.cymru.net [163.164.160.66]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id KAA24013 for ; Sat, 30 May 1998 10:43:52 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA21523 for ; Sat, 30 May 1998 10:43:26 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id KAA00524 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Sat, 30 May 1998 10:43:50 +0100 Message-Id: <199805300943.KAA00524@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: New !Linux (alpha) available To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 10:43:49 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi. There is a new !Linux available from ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/testing/linux-3.25-alpha.arc This will give you: 1) TFTP - primitive, but works. 2) initial ramdisks on RiscPC (if the kernel is configured for them) 3) Support for partition types that the latest PartMan supports. 4) Ability to specify kernel arguments on the command line. Please try it out, and report bugs to the usual place. Thanks. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat May 30 12:00:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA28701 for ; Sat, 30 May 1998 12:00:46 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14414 for ; Sat, 30 May 1998 12:01:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:27978 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2902-666>; Sat, 30 May 1998 14:01:45 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970888-21547>; Sat, 30 May 1998 05:59:42 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:27152 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970795-21547>; Sat, 30 May 1998 05:59:19 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id LAA28691; Sat, 30 May 1998 11:59:48 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805301059.LAA28691@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: CD ROM drives To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 11:59:48 +0100 (BST) Cc: dkscully@argonet.co.uk In-Reply-To: <199805300941.KAA00513@raistlin.armlinux.org> from "Russell King - ARM Linux Admin" at May 30, 98 10:41:23 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Russell King - ARM Linux Admin > > Dana K Scully writes: > > So, my new CD Drive arrived today, its a panasonic 24x one, and works fine > > under riscos 3.7 using the atapi drivers. Unfortunately, booting into > > Linux gets as far as recognising the hard drive and the cd rom drive and > > then stops dead, cursor stops flashing and the system requires a power > > reset. > > > > Anyone have an idea what this might be? > > Have you tried booting this kernel without the CD Drive connected? What > does the kernels on the FTP site do? [rudely butting in to answer the question in order to get a solution faster] Yes, she's booted the kernel previously; it goes wrong once the CD drive is plugged in. The kernels on the FTP site worked without the CD drive, but she had to compile her own in order to get PPP support. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From linux@arm.uk.linux.org Sat May 30 12:02:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA28709 for ; Sat, 30 May 1998 12:02:49 +0100 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id MAA25236 for ; Sat, 30 May 1998 12:03:50 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21817 for ; Sat, 30 May 1998 12:03:26 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id MAA00816 for willy@odie.barnet.ac.uk; Sat, 30 May 1998 12:03:45 +0100 Message-Id: <199805301103.MAA00816@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: New !Linux (alpha) available To: willy@odie.barnet.ac.uk (Matthew Wilcox) Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 12:03:44 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <199805301054.LAA28652@odie.barnet.ac.uk> from "Matthew Wilcox" at May 30, 98 11:54:26 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Matthew Wilcox writes: > Does it fix the problem I reported that it works under RISC OS 3.7 but > not RISC OS 3.5? The older one worked fine. I guess I can put the old > ROMs back in and try it.. I don't think so. This version may well give you a debug file in Pipe:$.C_Debug - could you mail it please? The difference between this and older versions is that these ones check the return values of the ADFS_DiscOp... The debug file should indicate what's failing. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | From linux@arm.uk.linux.org Sat May 30 12:09:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA28723 for ; Sat, 30 May 1998 12:09:03 +0100 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id MAA25339; Sat, 30 May 1998 12:10:00 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21839; Sat, 30 May 1998 12:09:35 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id MAA00848; Sat, 30 May 1998 12:09:55 +0100 Message-Id: <199805301109.MAA00848@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: CD ROM drives To: willy@odie.barnet.ac.uk (Matthew Wilcox) Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 12:09:54 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, dkscully@argonet.co.uk In-Reply-To: <199805301059.LAA28691@odie.barnet.ac.uk> from "Matthew Wilcox" at May 30, 98 11:59:48 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Matthew Wilcox writes: > Russell King - ARM Linux Admin > > Dana K Scully writes: > > > So, my new CD Drive arrived today, its a panasonic 24x one, and works fine > > > under riscos 3.7 using the atapi drivers. Unfortunately, booting into > > > Linux gets as far as recognising the hard drive and the cd rom drive and > > > then stops dead, cursor stops flashing and the system requires a power > > > reset. > > Have you tried booting this kernel without the CD Drive connected? What > > does the kernels on the FTP site do? > > Yes, she's booted the kernel previously; it goes wrong once the CD drive > is plugged in. The kernels on the FTP site worked without the CD drive, > but she had to compile her own in order to get PPP support. Ok, but what about the kernels on the FTP site with CD drive connected? _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat May 30 14:34:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA28889 for ; Sat, 30 May 1998 14:34:55 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14428 for ; Sat, 30 May 1998 14:36:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:21626 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2085-666>; Sat, 30 May 1998 16:35:51 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970919-21547>; Sat, 30 May 1998 08:33:21 -0400 Received: from iafnl.es.iaf.nl ([195.108.17.20]:1967 "HELO iafnl.es.iaf.nl" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970899-21547>; Sat, 30 May 1998 08:33:00 -0400 Received: from slip0630.es.iaf.nl (line19.gn.iaf.nl) by iafnl.es.iaf.nl with SMTP id AA09231 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 30 May 1998 15:34:58 +0200 Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 13:45:51 +0100 (BST) From: Angelo Melis Subject: Re: Compiling ? To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Organisation name, location. Telephone/Fax? X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.41] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hello, First I would like to thank everyone who replied about my question regarding compiling under ARMLinux. I now know that I need to download the kernelsources and apply the patches. I looked at the kernel.org site, but I noticed that the sources are 6.3 Mb. Very big when I only need the include files. So my next question is : Is someone willing to compress the missing include files (linux, asm and scsi) and mail them to me. I don't need the kernel sources (at least for the forseeable future *grin*) and I am not very happy to download the whole sources over a 28k8 modem from home. So if someone would be so kind to mail them to melis000@hotmail.com (and if not to much trouble also to the melis000@freemail.nl account, but I have a lot of trouble with that account (missing/corrupt email), but the hotmail.com account is new, so I don't know if the hotmail account is much better). Thanks in advance, Angelo (eager to start working under ARMLinux) ... -- Angelo Melis email: melis000@freemail.nl/melis000@hotmail.com (home) angelo@kitt.nl (work). unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From tonyh@tcp.co.uk Sat May 30 16:47:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: from poseidon.tcp.net.uk (poseidon.tcp.net.uk [195.80.0.34]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA29065 for ; Sat, 30 May 1998 16:47:41 +0100 Received: from tonyh (du-095.tcp.co.uk [195.80.1.95]) by poseidon.tcp.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8+antispam) with SMTP id QAA25371; Sat, 30 May 1998 16:48:34 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 16:00:39 +0100 From: Tony Houghton To: willy@odie.barnet.ac.uk Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, dkscully@argonet.co.uk Subject: Compiling kernels (was Re: CD ROM drives) Message-ID: <5b8f654e48%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <199805301059.LAA28691@odie.barnet.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Messenger v1.38 for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.21beta MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60j Status: RO In message <199805301059.LAA28691@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Matthew Wilcox wrote: > Yes, she's booted the kernel previously; it goes wrong once the CD > drive is plugged in. The kernels on the FTP site worked without the > CD drive, but she had to compile her own in order to get PPP support. Ah, so the precompiled kernel doesn't support PPP by default I take it. Do I need to compile a kernel or can I just use modules? My book (see below) has a little information about these, it says I need to create an /etc/modules file (which I don't currently have) and run depmod. Is it really that simple? I guess I can work out roughly how to compile my own with information given in one of your other messages, but is there a guide to configuring and compiling a kernel like the one for RiscBSD? I doubt whether I would have been able to manage that without the guide. I've got "Essential System Administration" from O'Reilly which includes a section on compiling Linux kernels. Has anyone seen that and knows whether it's adequate and applicable for ARMLinux? -- \_________________ \ http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~tonyh/ The Curling Pages \ The home of WinEd, Bombz and POPstar for RISC OS From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat May 30 16:53:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA29104 for ; Sat, 30 May 1998 16:53:53 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA14439 for ; Sat, 30 May 1998 16:55:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:58149 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2973-670>; Sat, 30 May 1998 18:54:47 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970854-21547>; Sat, 30 May 1998 10:52:13 -0400 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:31009 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970821-21547>; Sat, 30 May 1998 10:52:01 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id QAA29086; Sat, 30 May 1998 16:52:45 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199805301552.QAA29086@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Compiling kernels (was Re: CD ROM drives) To: tonyh@tcp.co.uk (Tony Houghton) Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 16:52:44 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, dkscully@argonet.co.uk In-Reply-To: <5b8f654e48%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> from "Tony Houghton" at May 30, 98 04:00:39 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Tony Houghton > > In message <199805301059.LAA28691@odie.barnet.ac.uk> > Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > > Yes, she's booted the kernel previously; it goes wrong once the CD > > drive is plugged in. The kernels on the FTP site worked without the > > CD drive, but she had to compile her own in order to get PPP support. > > Ah, so the precompiled kernel doesn't support PPP by default I take it. > Do I need to compile a kernel or can I just use modules? My book (see > below) has a little information about these, it says I need to create an > /etc/modules file (which I don't currently have) and run depmod. Is it > really that simple? You can use modules, yes, but my main reason for making dks compile her own kernel was to get some decent documentation written on it ;-) I've never used PPP myself; I've always rolled my own kernel, so I'm not sure how easy it is to just compile a module. I was under the impressions modules were harder than the O'Reilly books seem to say they are. I must play with it someday.. > I guess I can work out roughly how to compile my own with information > given in one of your other messages, but is there a guide to configuring > and compiling a kernel like the one for RiscBSD? I doubt whether I would > have been able to manage that without the guide. > > I've got "Essential System Administration" from O'Reilly which includes > a section on compiling Linux kernels. Has anyone seen that and knows > whether it's adequate and applicable for ARMLinux? I haven't seen it, but it's pretty similar to doing a peecee one. The gotchas are mentioned in Russell's FAQ. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From linux@arm.uk.linux.org Sat May 30 17:11:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA29109 for ; Sat, 30 May 1998 17:11:07 +0100 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id RAA29637; Sat, 30 May 1998 17:12:11 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA22599; Sat, 30 May 1998 17:11:50 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id RAA01741; Sat, 30 May 1998 17:12:00 +0100 Message-Id: <199805301612.RAA01741@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Compiling kernels (was Re: CD ROM drives) To: tonyh@tcp.co.uk (Tony Houghton) Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 17:11:59 +0100 (BST) Cc: willy@odie.barnet.ac.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, dkscully@argonet.co.uk In-Reply-To: <5b8f654e48%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> from "Tony Houghton" at May 30, 98 04:00:39 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Tony Houghton writes: > > Yes, she's booted the kernel previously; it goes wrong once the CD > > drive is plugged in. The kernels on the FTP site worked without the > > CD drive, but she had to compile her own in order to get PPP support. > > Ah, so the precompiled kernel doesn't support PPP by default I take it. > Do I need to compile a kernel or can I just use modules? My book (see > below) has a little information about these, it says I need to create an > /etc/modules file (which I don't currently have) and run depmod. Is it > really that simple? You should be able to use the modules. You need a /etc/modules.conf (or /etc/conf.modules) file - for an example, type modprobe -c. Don't bother with depmod - it's run on each boot anyway. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun May 31 10:11:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA30042 for ; Sun, 31 May 1998 10:11:13 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14539 for ; Sun, 31 May 1998 10:12:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:61720 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10431-670>; Sun, 31 May 1998 12:12:24 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970997-21547>; Sun, 31 May 1998 04:01:50 -0400 Received: from post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.39]:49039 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970954-21547>; Sun, 31 May 1998 03:57:06 -0400 Received: from latrigg.demon.co.uk ([158.152.64.157]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa1005170; 31 May 98 8:59 GMT Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 09:59:53 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Pringle Subject: Has anyone got the Ether3 driver working on an A5k To: Linux Mailing List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: At Home, 01285 713514 X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.45] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Has anyone got the ether3 driver to work on the A5000. Every time I do an insmod I just get a : initialization of ether3 failed. All help is appreciated. Thanks Regards, --- Chris Pringle 22, St. Mary's Drive, Fairford, Glos. GL7 4LQ P.S.Check out My web site at http://www.latrigg.demon.co.uk/Chris/index.html unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun May 31 13:03:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: from virtual.bbc.co.uk (virtual.bbc.co.uk [132.185.132.199]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA30200 for ; Sun, 31 May 1998 13:03:16 +0100 Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by virtual.bbc.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA14546 for ; Sun, 31 May 1998 13:04:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:56080 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10880-666>; Sun, 31 May 1998 15:04:26 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970994-21547>; Sun, 31 May 1998 06:59:23 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1729 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970991-21547>; Sun, 31 May 1998 06:58:51 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id NAA13423; Sun, 31 May 1998 13:03:14 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA24422; Sun, 31 May 1998 13:03:01 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id NAA31077; Sun, 31 May 1998 13:03:13 +0100 Message-Id: <199805311203.NAA31077@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Has anyone got the Ether3 driver working on an A5k To: cpringle@latrigg.demon.co.uk (Chris Pringle) Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 13:03:11 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Chris Pringle" at May 31, 98 09:59:53 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Chris Pringle writes: > Has anyone got the ether3 driver to work on the A5000. Every time I do > an insmod I just get a : > initialization of ether3 failed. > All help is appreciated. Thanks Yes, I use it every day of every week of every year with no problems whatsoever, heavily (it's my NFS server's ethernet card, and it has MB's passing through it at weekends at the moment). Is this with the latest kernel version? _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu