From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Mar 1 15:40:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA21701 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:40:35 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:4393 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <7128-28709>; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 17:40:28 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970895-1169>; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 10:27:37 -0500 Received: from spinoza.jesus.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.136.1]:4289 "HELO spinoza.jesus.ox.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970911-1169>; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 10:25:41 -0500 Received: from ic.ac.uk by spinoza.jesus.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0y9Ae6-000Ih0C; Sun, 1 Mar 98 15:27 GMT Message-ID: <34F97FDF.9C9DF33E@ic.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 15:33:51 +0000 From: Raphael Clifford X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: a5000 linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I am sorry if this a faq but is there anyone out there who has linux running on an a5000. I have been waiting for six months or so to see the root disk link fixed on www.arm.uk.linux.org and I'm giving up hope :(. Thanks very much in advance, Raphael unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Mar 1 16:42:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA21936 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 16:42:50 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:41312 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6161-466>; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 18:44:01 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970925-1169>; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 11:41:06 -0500 Received: from lilac.csi.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.8.44]:59812 "HELO lilac.csi.cam.ac.uk" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970892-1169>; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 11:34:59 -0500 Received: from dwmw2.robinson.cam.ac.uk (imladris.demon.co.uk) [131.111.217.153] (exim) by lilac.csi.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0y9BjZ-000711-00; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 16:37:01 +0000 Received: from localhost (dwmw2.robinson.cam.ac.uk) [127.0.0.1] (dwmw2) by imladris.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #9) id 0y9BjV-0002c6-00; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 16:36:57 +0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Raphael Clifford Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: a5000 linux Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 16:36:55 +0000 From: David Woodhouse Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > I am sorry if this a faq but is there anyone out there who has linux > running on an a5000. I have been waiting for six months or so to see > the root disk link fixed on www.arm.uk.linux.org and I'm giving up hope We have had it running. We only managed it by installing the packages by hand onto an NFS-root directory. We then managed to copy the entire installation to the hard drive of the machine in question, but found that we couldn't get the network running if we booted from the hard drive - the network configuration commands don't exist. ---- ---- ---- David Woodhouse, Robinson College, CB3 9AN, England. (+44) 0976 658355 Dave@imladris.demon.co.uk http://dwmw2.robinson.cam.ac.uk finger pgp@dwmw2.robinson.cam.ac.uk for PGP key. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Mar 1 20:58:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA22766 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 20:58:57 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:45398 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3064-466>; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 23:00:10 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971243-1169>; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:57:21 -0500 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1783 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971221-1169>; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:56:41 -0500 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA14956 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 20:58:40 GMT Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA02092 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 14:38:27 GMT From: Russell King Received: (from rmk@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id OAA00474 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 14:38:22 GMT Message-Id: <199803011438.OAA00474@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: New Partition Manager for RiscOS for testing To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 14:38:21 +0000 (GMT) X-Location: london.england.earth.mulky-way.universe Reply-To: rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi. I've upload another new copy of PartMan, the partition manager for Acorn's RiscOS onto the FTP site for testing. It is a debug-only version, which means that it will not write any partition information to your hard drives. Please try this copy out, and mail me the results (uuencoded please). It should recognise the following partitioning schemes: 1) Filecore Linux 2) ICS IDEFS partitions 3) PowerTec partitions 4) PC Bios partitions Note, however, that partition schemes 2) and 3) will not currently allow you to create new partitions - deletion and editing will work. Also on all partitioning schemes, the save option is only available if you have changed the partition information in some way (eg, choosing edit, and then 'OK' without changing any information). When you start PartMan, you will be presented with an information window. Read this, and then click the close box. Please mail any ideas for enhancements and problems to myself. This is especially important if you enounter an abort()/assert() failure. If you find that you cannot get PartMan to recognise your drive, please use Zap to mail me the contents of certain sectors (listed below): 1) for Filecore: sector 6 2) for ICS IDEFS: sector 0 3) for PowerTec: sector 0 4) for PC Bios: sector 0 I would prefer these to be Print Dumped first (File->Print->Dump in Zap) - I can then view them under Linux easily. You will notice that it appears to be very slow on some machines - this is intentional due to the amount of debug code. The official non-alpha/beta version will have debugging disabled. Thanks in advance. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/home.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Mar 1 21:03:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA22783 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 21:03:24 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:48472 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3064-466>; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 23:04:45 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971250-1169>; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 16:02:03 -0500 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1972 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971243-1169>; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 16:01:37 -0500 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA15116 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 21:03:41 GMT Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02406 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 21:04:49 GMT From: Russell King Received: (from rmk@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id VAA00395 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 21:04:18 GMT Message-Id: <199803012104.VAA00395@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Linux Loader for testing To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 21:04:17 +0000 (GMT) X-Location: london.england.earth.mulky-way.universe Reply-To: rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi. I have just uploaded an alpha release of the Linux Loader. It should be able to load from the same partitions supported by the alpha PartMan. Please note that the partition numbering has changed - the partition number is identical to the Linux partition number (0 -> 3, 1 -> 4 etc). It should now be able to correctly pass kernel command line arguments from the configuration /boot/boot.conf file. Please feed any ideas back to me. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/home.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Mar 3 10:47:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA31109 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:47:31 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:18968 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6405-21240>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:47:28 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970800-1169>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 05:43:52 -0500 Received: from court4.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.188.4]:22542 "EHLO court4.ncl.ac.uk" ident: "armlinux") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970807-1169>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 05:43:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (armlinux@localhost) by court4.ncl.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA13353; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:43:54 GMT Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:43:38 +0000 (GMT) From: "A.S.MCGough" To: jshrive3@wvu.edu, Joshua Shriver , Arm Linux Subject: Re: CD Burn In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Joshua Shriver wrote: > In the message you posted to the linux listserv you gave the commandline > for creating a 32character wide ISO image. > > When burning the ISO image will it keep the names correct? > I tried burning regular files with EZ C Creator ausing ISO 9660 32+3 > and oit still hated the multiple periods. > > Will the ISO image keep the periods? The iso image does not keep the periods for the normal cd file names, truncating the name before the second period. However under any filing system that reads Rock-Ridge extensions you will get the full name, with as many dots as you want and case preserved. For example, the cd image for the single file ncurses-1.9.9e.tar.gz, will produce the following names: under 8+3 the file name would be: NCURSES-.GZ under 32 the file name would be: NCURSES-1.9 and under Rock-Ridge the file name would be: ncurses-1.9.9e.tar.gz Unfortunatly there doesn't appear to be any way to generate images that provide full names in all systems. steve.. > Most archived files are name.tar.gz > so multiple periods are a necesity. > > Please reply to jshrive3@wvu.edu > > Thanks for your time. > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Mar 3 18:55:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA00621 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:55:16 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:11845 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6989-23420>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:55:20 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971034-1169>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:07:48 -0500 Received: from poseidon.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.34]:42163 "EHLO poseidon.tcp.net.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971093-1169>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:56:58 -0500 Received: from tonyh (du-106.tcp.co.uk [195.80.1.106]) by poseidon.tcp.net.uk (8.8.6/8.8) with SMTP id SAA28775 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:19:04 GMT Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 18:16:23 +0000 From: Tony Houghton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Bad magic Message-ID: Organization: Home X-Mailer: Messenger v1.34c for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail =?ISO-8859-1?Q?0.21=DF?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60e X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I've just installed ARMLinux from the Clan CD, following Phil Norman's guide almost to the letter. It seemed to go through the installation OK [1], but now when I try to boot into Linux having used the configurer, it says something about invalid magic in the bmap at sector 0. [1] Except that when installing RPMs it gave some "dne" (does not exist?) errors, possibly connected with some of the file names being truncated, which I couldn't be bothered to fix? -- \_________________ \ http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~tonyh/ The Curling Pages \ The home of WinEd, Bombz and NewsFind for RISC OS unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Mar 3 19:57:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA00872 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:57:36 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:15481 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6754-21240>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:56:22 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970874-1169>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:15:13 -0500 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:23100 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970904-1169>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:46:12 -0500 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id TAA00698; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:07:45 GMT From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199803031907.TAA00698@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Bad magic To: tonyh@tcp.co.uk (Tony Houghton) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:07:39 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Tony Houghton" at Mar 3, 98 06:16:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Tony Houghton > > I've just installed ARMLinux from the Clan CD, following Phil Norman's > guide almost to the letter. It seemed to go through the installation OK > [1], but now when I try to boot into Linux having used the configurer, > it says something about invalid magic in the bmap at sector 0. I haven't read Forrey's instructions, but you get bad magic when you attempt to boot from a hard disc that you haven't run `loadmap' on. What you should do is ensure that the Linux booter can't find its config files (cos there's a misfeature in the booter that I use. may have been fixed in later versions, I guess) and then boot it with -bootkernel (ie how you boot it the first time). Tell it `root=/dev/hda3' (or whatever) and then when you're booted, copy the kernel onto the hard disc, edit /etc/boot.conf appropriately and run loadmap -v. > [1] Except that when installing RPMs it gave some "dne" (does not > exist?) errors, possibly connected with some of the file names being > truncated, which I couldn't be bothered to fix? Sounds right. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From tonyh@tcp.co.uk Wed Mar 4 00:48:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: from poseidon.tcp.net.uk (poseidon.tcp.net.uk [195.80.0.34]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA02018 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:48:05 GMT Received: from tonyh (du-087.tcp.co.uk [195.80.1.87]) by poseidon.tcp.net.uk (8.8.6/8.8) with SMTP id AAA24704; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:48:26 GMT Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 00:39:59 +0000 From: Tony Houghton To: willy@odie.barnet.ac.uk Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Bad magic Message-ID: <5b9492148%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <199803031907.TAA00698@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Organization: Home X-Mailer: Messenger v1.34c for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.21ß MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60e Status: RO In message <199803031907.TAA00698@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Matthew Wilcox wrote: > I haven't read Forrey's instructions, but you get bad magic when you > attempt to boot from a hard disc that you haven't run `loadmap' on. > What you should do is ensure that the Linux booter can't find its config > files (cos there's a misfeature in the booter that I use. may have been > fixed in later versions, I guess) and then boot it with -bootkernel (ie > how you boot it the first time). Tell it `root=/dev/hda3' (or whatever) > and then when you're booted, copy the kernel onto the hard disc, edit > /etc/boot.conf appropriately and run loadmap -v. Thanks for your help, but loadmap died with a segmentation fault (code 3). Oh well, I think I'll go back to RiscBSD. I was just getting used to it, but some frustrations made me want to look at ARMLinux - but it looks like its headaches are even larger :-(. Not Russel's fault really, nothing ported from UNIX to Acorns ever works properly, but at least RiscBSD has several paid people working on it. > > [1] Except that when installing RPMs it gave some "dne" (does not > > exist?) errors, possibly connected with some of the file names being > > truncated, which I couldn't be bothered to fix? > > Sounds right. I fixed the filenames, but I still got the errors. -- \_________________ \ http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~tonyh/ The Curling Pages \ The home of WinEd, Bombz and NewsFind for RISC OS From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Mar 4 11:40:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: from orava.funet.fi (orava.funet.fi [128.214.248.46]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA04224 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:40:17 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:9839 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by orava.funet.fi with ESMTP id <390769-23502>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:38:56 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970857-1169>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 05:15:39 -0500 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:26726 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970864-1169>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 05:14:46 -0500 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id LAA04188; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:36:22 GMT From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199803041136.LAA04188@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Bad magic To: tonyh@tcp.co.uk (Tony Houghton) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:36:21 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <5b9492148%tonyh@tonyh.tcp.co.uk> from "Tony Houghton" at Mar 4, 98 00:39:59 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Tony Houghton > > In message <199803031907.TAA00698@odie.barnet.ac.uk> > Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > > I haven't read Forrey's instructions, but you get bad magic when you > > attempt to boot from a hard disc that you haven't run `loadmap' on. > > What you should do is ensure that the Linux booter can't find its config > > files (cos there's a misfeature in the booter that I use. may have been > > fixed in later versions, I guess) and then boot it with -bootkernel (ie > > how you boot it the first time). Tell it `root=/dev/hda3' (or whatever) > > and then when you're booted, copy the kernel onto the hard disc, edit > > /etc/boot.conf appropriately and run loadmap -v. > > Thanks for your help, but loadmap died with a segmentation fault (code > 3). It does this on some people's machines. I don't know why, and it doesn't happen on mine so I can't try and find out why ;-( > Oh well, I think I'll go back to RiscBSD. I was just getting used to it, > but some frustrations made me want to look at ARMLinux - but it looks > like its headaches are even larger :-(. I don't think anyone's ever denied that ARMLinux is more rough around the edges than RiscBSD. Wait until ELF and libc6 happen, then things will be much better. > Not Russel's fault really, > nothing ported from UNIX to Acorns ever works properly I don't consider this to be true. There are occasional problems with programs expecting chars to be signed when they're unsigned on the ARM, but there are architectures with worse problems than the ARM. If you're referring to porting UNIX programs to RISC OS then you're comparing bananas against oranges. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Mar 4 17:05:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: from orava.funet.fi (orava.funet.fi [128.214.248.46]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA05599 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:05:06 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:30418 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by orava.funet.fi with ESMTP id <390563-23502>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 19:04:50 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970837-1169>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:40:04 -0500 Received: from mail4.geocities.com ([209.1.224.24]:43820 "EHLO geocities.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970904-1169>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:38:29 -0500 Received: from SunNetra1 ([194.73.245.2]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA02393 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:00:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34FDFC51.10F2@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 17:13:53 -0800 From: Alex Holden Reply-To: alex_holden@geocities.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Embedded ARM system running Linux. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi, I am currently considering the possibility of designing a basic embedded controller, with Linux as the operating system, using an ARM 7200 or similar. It is really only a concept idea at the moment, and may never come to anything, but I was just wondering whether there would be anyone else interested in the idea. Here are some more details: This isn't a commercial development; I am just an interested Linux hobbyist and electronics student. My intention is to it as a robot controller, but it would probably be useable for a lot wider range of things. I can probably do both the hardware and the software myself, but I would like to hear from people interested in helping with either. I haven't yet found where I can get hold of a processor from, or how much they cost, or even whether they will be willing to sell just one of them. Neither have I looked too hard yet, though. Anyone have any experiences to share in this respect? Anyway, I've got to go now; I look forward to hearing your responses. -- ------------------- Linux- the choice of a GNU generation. -------------------- : Alex Holden- Caver, Programmer, Land Rover nut, and Radio amateur (M1 CJD). : -------------- http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1532/ --------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Mar 6 10:49:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: from orava.funet.fi (orava.funet.fi [128.214.248.46]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA15035 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:49:24 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:30006 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by orava.funet.fi with ESMTP id <390806-23502>; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:49:33 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971516-11449>; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 03:17:25 -0500 Received: from rs2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.22.63]:2491 "HELO rs2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971626-11449>; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 01:41:17 -0500 Received: from fb0430.mathematik.th-darmstadt.de (daemon@fb0430.mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.2.30]) by rs2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.6.12/8.6.12.1ms) with ESMTP id IAA24370 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:56:06 +0100 Received: from fb0439.mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de by fb0430.mathematik.th-darmstadt.de (1.37.109.20/Server-1.5/HRZ-THD) id AA159460967; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:56:07 +0100 Received: by fb0439.mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de (1.37.109.20/Client-1.5/HRZ-THD) id AA043180966; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:56:06 +0100 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:56:06 +0100 Message-Id: <199803060756.AA043180966@fb0439.mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de> From: Ulrich Schwanecke To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Installing Linux X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I' m still triing to install ARMLinux on my RISCPC. Using Linux on my PC, I made an ARMLinux CDROM containing the RedHat installation trees. I booted ARMLinux and inserted the CDROM when the installer called me to insert the CDROM. But nothing happens. On the virtual Console (ALT F3) I the following output appeared: * Welcome to the Red Hat install (first stage version 1.0) .. .. .. * making device hdb (3 , 64) as /tmp/hdb * CDROMVOLREAD ioctl worked * mounting hdb on /tmp/rhimage as type iso 9660 * making device hdb (3 , 64) as /tmp/hdb * calling mount (/tmp/hdb , /tmp/rhimage , iso9660 , -1058209791 , 0x0) * removing device file /tmp/hdb * error in exec of second stage loader :-( * error: Permission denied So, what's going on? unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Mar 8 08:30:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: from orava.funet.fi (orava.funet.fi [128.214.248.46]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA24842 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 08:30:23 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:1036 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by orava.funet.fi with ESMTP id <390663-23502>; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:31:11 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970884-11449>; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 01:55:09 -0500 Received: from neon-best.transmeta.com ([206.184.214.10]:21874 "EHLO neon.transmeta.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971233-11449>; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 01:33:20 -0500 Received: from gold-1.transmeta.com (mailhost.transmeta.com [10.1.1.79]) by neon.transmeta.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id XAA32541 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 23:48:11 -0800 Received: from palladium.transmeta.com (bin@palladium.transmeta.com [10.1.1.46]) by gold-1.transmeta.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA00791 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 23:56:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bin@localhost) by palladium.transmeta.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA31459 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 23:56:46 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: palladium.transmeta.com: bin set sender to news@transmeta.com using -f To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu From: hpa@transmeta.com (H. Peter Anvin) Subject: ARM-based PDA's? Date: 8 Mar 1998 07:56:39 GMT Organization: Transmeta Corporation, Santa Clara CA Message-ID: <6dtivn$umu$1@palladium.transmeta.com> Reply-To: hpa@transmeta.com (H. Peter Anvin) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Disclaimer: Not speaking for Transmeta in any way, shape, or form. Copyright: Copyright 1998 H. Peter Anvin - All Rights Reserved X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I have noticed that there are several ARM chips (e.g. ARM 7100) that are effectively a PDA on a chip. I wonder what PDA's there are that are based on these chips, and if there is any possibilty of porting Linux to them. I'd love to have Linux running on the Pilot, but it looks like even the Palm III uses an MMU-less processor, which (IMO) makes any Unix implementation a toy (a *neat* toy, I admit, but still a toy.) I know the Newton runs StrongARM, but it's (a) discontinued and (b) too bulky for my taste... -hpa -- PGP: 2047/2A960705 BA 03 D3 2C 14 A8 A8 BD 1E DF FE 69 EE 35 BD 74 See http://www.zytor.com/~hpa/ for web page and full PGP public key I am Bahá'í -- ask me about it or see http://www.bahai.org/ "To love another person is to see the face of God." -- Les Misérables unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Mar 8 16:37:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: from orava.funet.fi (orava.funet.fi [128.214.248.46]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA26319 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 16:37:13 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:4140 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by orava.funet.fi with ESMTP id <390764-23502>; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 18:38:27 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970975-11449>; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:11:56 -0500 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:53774 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970984-11449>; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:10:43 -0500 Received: from treblig.demon.co.uk ([194.222.210.232]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2002406; 8 Mar 98 16:27 GMT Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 16:23:06 +0000 (GMT) From: Dave Gilbert X-Sender: gilbertd@tardis.home.dave To: "H. Peter Anvin" cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ARM-based PDA's? In-Reply-To: <6dtivn$umu$1@palladium.transmeta.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On 8 Mar 1998, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > I have noticed that there are several ARM chips (e.g. ARM 7100) that > are effectively a PDA on a chip. I wonder what PDA's there are that > are based on these chips, and if there is any possibilty of porting > Linux to them. I'd love to have Linux running on the Pilot, but it > looks like even the Palm III uses an MMU-less processor, which (IMO) > makes any Unix implementation a toy (a *neat* toy, I admit, but still > a toy.) Well there is the Psion-5 which uses an ARM 7100; it can take a fair amount of RAM. As always the problem is finding out if it uses any special hardare - but considering the ARM7100 integrates so much I can't imagine there can be that much. There is also the Geofox 1, it uses the same OS as the Psion-5 (EPOC32) but is a bit larger and has things like a glidepoint squidge pad and I think some real PCMCIA slots. I expect Windows CE machines based on StrongARM to appear reasonably soon - after replacement of the OS they should make fairly nice machines! > I know the Newton runs StrongARM, but it's (a) discontinued and (b) > too bulky for my taste... Heh? When was the Newton discontinued????? Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------- / Dr. David Alan Gilbert | Running Linux on Alpha & ARM \ \ gro.gilbert @ treblig.org | ------- Happy in hex ------- / \____________________________|___ http://www.treblig.demon.co.uk __/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From linux@arm.uk.linux.org Sun Mar 8 17:09:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA26380 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 17:09:47 GMT Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup3.cymru.net [163.164.160.67]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id RAA12691; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 17:11:04 GMT Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA07513; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 17:10:54 GMT From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id XAA00711; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:00:42 GMT Message-Id: <199803032300.XAA00711@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Bad magic To: willy@odie.barnet.ac.uk (Matthew Wilcox) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:00:41 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199803031907.TAA00698@odie.barnet.ac.uk> from "Matthew Wilcox" at Mar 3, 98 07:07:39 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Matthew Wilcox writes: > What you should do is ensure that the Linux booter can't find its config > files (cos there's a misfeature in the booter that I use. may have been > fixed in later versions, I guess) and then boot it with -bootkernel (ie The misfeature has been removed in the alpha release of the new !Linux. Does anyone have any feedback on this yet? > how you boot it the first time). Tell it `root=/dev/hda3' (or whatever) > and then when you're booted, copy the kernel onto the hard disc, edit > /etc/boot.conf appropriately and run loadmap -v. Note however that some versions of loadmap give a segmentation violation if you have a config {} block in the /etc/boot.conf - the best way round it is to use loadmap -v -R instead of a config {} block. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/home.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Mar 8 17:32:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: from orava.funet.fi (orava.funet.fi [128.214.248.46]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA26455 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 17:32:12 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:16450 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by orava.funet.fi with ESMTP id <390699-23502>; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 19:33:07 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970897-11449>; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 11:08:35 -0500 Received: from neon-best.transmeta.com ([206.184.214.10]:18538 "EHLO neon.transmeta.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970903-11449>; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 11:08:14 -0500 Received: from gold-1.transmeta.com (mailhost.transmeta.com [10.1.1.79]) by neon.transmeta.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA05980; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 09:23:18 -0800 Received: from cesium.transmeta.com (hpa@cesium.transmeta.com [10.1.2.55]) by gold-1.transmeta.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11860; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 09:31:53 -0800 (PST) From: "H. Peter Anvin" Received: (from hpa@localhost) by cesium.transmeta.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id JAA11671; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 09:31:53 -0800 Message-Id: <199803081731.JAA11671@cesium.transmeta.com> Subject: Re: ARM-based PDA's? In-Reply-To: from Dave Gilbert at "Mar 8, 98 04:23:06 pm" To: gilbertd@treblig.org (Dave Gilbert) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 09:31:53 -0800 (PST) Cc: hpa@transmeta.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > > I know the Newton runs StrongARM, but it's (a) discontinued and (b) > > too bulky for my taste... > > Heh? When was the Newton discontinued????? This past week. -hpa unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Mar 8 19:13:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: from orava.funet.fi (orava.funet.fi [128.214.248.46]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA26753 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 19:13:36 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:3111 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by orava.funet.fi with ESMTP id <390780-23502>; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 21:14:34 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970915-11449>; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 12:45:01 -0500 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:47137 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970984-11449>; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 12:42:21 -0500 Received: from treblig.demon.co.uk ([194.222.210.232]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2029675; 8 Mar 98 18:56 GMT Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 18:52:27 +0000 (GMT) From: Dave Gilbert X-Sender: gilbertd@tardis.home.dave To: "H. Peter Anvin" cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ARM-based PDA's? In-Reply-To: <199803081731.JAA11671@cesium.transmeta.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Sun, 8 Mar 1998, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > > > I know the Newton runs StrongARM, but it's (a) discontinued and (b) > > > too bulky for my taste... > > > > Heh? When was the Newton discontinued????? > > This past week. Damn - thats a sad loss. Do you have a pointer to an announcment? Is the Emate thing still being produced. Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------- / Dr. David Alan Gilbert | Running Linux on Alpha & ARM \ \ gro.gilbert @ treblig.org | ------- Happy in hex ------- / \____________________________|___ http://www.treblig.demon.co.uk __/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Mar 8 21:08:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: from orava.funet.fi (orava.funet.fi [128.214.248.46]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA27073 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 21:08:03 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:30353 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by orava.funet.fi with ESMTP id <390803-23502>; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 23:08:56 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970935-11449>; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 14:37:57 -0500 Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au ([130.102.176.1]:1714 "EHLO piglet.dstc.edu.au" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970978-11449>; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 14:34:44 -0500 Received: from mailhost.dstc.edu.au (arnold@azure.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.27]) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA12846; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 06:57:50 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199803082057.GAA12846@piglet.dstc.edu.au> To: Dave Gilbert cc: "H. Peter Anvin" , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ARM-based PDA's? Reply-to: davida@pobox.com X-URL: X-Face: 2#;/avfeVL:b Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 06:57:49 +1000 From: David Arnold X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO -->"Dave" == Dave Gilbert writes: Dave> Heh? When was the Newton discontinued????? frday 27 february 1998. there's a petition gonig around to get apple to release the hardware/software docs so that we can do something with them, but i'm not too hopeful ... -- David Arnold ,================================================= =================' +617 33654310 (voice) CRC for Distributed Systems Technology +617 33654311 (fax) University of Queensland davida@pobox.com (email) Australia (web) In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; in practice, however, there is no similarity - Dave Butenhof. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Mar 8 23:32:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: from orava.funet.fi (orava.funet.fi [128.214.248.46]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA27612 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 23:32:34 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:26719 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by orava.funet.fi with ESMTP id <390829-23502>; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 01:32:43 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970904-11449>; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 16:59:51 -0500 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1155 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970937-11449>; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 16:55:05 -0500 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id XAA17851; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 23:16:38 GMT Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA08507; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 23:15:44 GMT From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id XAA04754; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 23:15:29 GMT Message-Id: <199803082315.XAA04754@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: ARM-based PDA's? To: gilbertd@treblig.org (Dave Gilbert) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 23:15:29 +0000 (GMT) Cc: hpa@transmeta.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Dave Gilbert" at Mar 8, 98 06:52:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Dave Gilbert writes: > > > > I know the Newton runs StrongARM, but it's (a) discontinued and (b) > > > > too bulky for my taste... > > > Heh? When was the Newton discontinued????? > > This past week. > Damn - thats a sad loss. Do you have a pointer to an announcment? > Is the Emate thing still being produced. Hang on - ET published an article entitled 'How will Intel start to flex it's StrongARM?', saying '... and used in Apple Computer's latest Newton - which could be used to spearhead an attack on the Windows CE-based PDA and set-top market.' Hmm, looks like ET got that wrong! ;( BTW, the article goes on to say 'Ron Smith ... said: "... Once we obtain regulatory approval, our plan is to enhance and improve the product (StrongARM). We also plan to grow the customer base as well as provide support for existing customers."' I wonder if this means that they'll replace my 3.3V backplane for my EBSA-285 with a 5V one, so that it's of some use to me (other than providing a nice flat space to put my RiscPC on)? ;) If anyone's reading this at Intel, let me know! _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/home.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Mar 14 23:18:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: from entropy.muc.muohio.edu (root@entropy.muc.muohio.edu [134.53.193.10]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA03522 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:18:11 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (root@vger.rutgers.edu [128.6.190.2]) by entropy.muc.muohio.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA23217; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 18:18:39 -0500 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970980-17937>; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 18:14:56 -0500 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:4189 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970978-17937>; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 18:14:47 -0500 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yE040-0005zm-00; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:10:00 +0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: A5000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:09:59 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi. I've just been hacking at the 2.1.88 kernel a bit to get it to boot on the A5000. There are still a few problems but it's mostly there now. Is anybody else interested in this? Incidentally, has anyone had luck with the ether3 driver? When I try to use it for diskless booting I never seem to be able to receive any frames. This isn't the `unaligned protocol' problem (even though I'm using gcc 2.8) - packets are never making it that far. Since my Ether1 has blown up the ether3 is my only remaining card at the moment. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Mar 15 16:23:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: from entropy.muc.muohio.edu (root@entropy.muc.muohio.edu [134.53.193.10]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA06201 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 16:23:23 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (root@vger.rutgers.edu [128.6.190.2]) by entropy.muc.muohio.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA08765; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 11:24:18 -0500 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970799-17937>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 11:17:33 -0500 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1106 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970804-17937>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 11:16:30 -0500 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yEFyu-000285-00; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 16:09:48 +0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: 2.1.88 a5000 (etc) patches Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 16:09:48 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi. These are my patches against 2.1.88 + Russell's pre-patch-2.1.88-19980222-1.gz. I don't have the time at the moment to clean them up so this is just a straight diff of my source tree against the original one, warts and all. With this kernel my A5000 gets as far as mounting the root filesystem - I don't currently have enough userspace binaries to try it beyond that. Enabling kernel IP auto-config causes a crash. I haven't looked at that at all yet, though I have a suspicion we may be passing csum_partial_copy_from_user() a pointer that isn't actually a valid user one at that stage. There is a problem in __get_free_pages that I've worked around for now. Basically, the code tries to set an upper limit on the order of lists that it will allow itself to empty in search of an allocation. This is fine in theory but if you're in a situation where memory is low and all you have is one 1MB chunk, small allocations will end up failing altogether even though there is plenty of memory available. I suspect this happens more often on the A5000 than on newer (or non ARM) machines because of the high page size. Anyway, for now I've just disabled that check on the basis that fragmentation is a lesser evil. I added some more .init stuff but only noticed afterwards that the whole .init system is currently disabled. The kernel failed to boot when I tried to turn it on - not sure why, yet - it may be a tool problem. I probably ought to point out, before Russell does it for me, that this patch has not been sanctioned by the relevant authorities. If you apply it you do so at your own risk and it will probably cause your machine to blow up and all your children to have eight heads. My posting this patch should not be taken as any sort of implicit claim that I understand the inner mysteries of ARM Linux, nor that there is anything included here that Russell hasn't already done better. 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Peter Anvin) Subject: Completely wacko idea Date: 16 Mar 1998 04:05:26 GMT Organization: Transmeta Corporation, Santa Clara CA Message-ID: <6ei8e6$su4$1@palladium.transmeta.com> Reply-To: hpa@transmeta.com (H. Peter Anvin) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Disclaimer: Not speaking for Transmeta in any way, shape, or form. Copyright: Copyright 1998 H. Peter Anvin - All Rights Reserved X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Anyone who thinks there is any chance in hell to fit a ARM 7100 "system-on-a-chip" together with RAM and ROM onto a PalmPilot memory board? If so, we could make a dual-processor PDA... trčs cool... The problem with building your own PDA from scratch is to fit it in a form factor that makes sense; custom cases are not an option and yet, you don't want to start your instructions with "buy a PalmPilot and gut it..." -hpa -- PGP: 2047/2A960705 BA 03 D3 2C 14 A8 A8 BD 1E DF FE 69 EE 35 BD 74 See http://www.zytor.com/~hpa/ for web page and full PGP public key I am Bahá'í -- ask me about it or see http://www.bahai.org/ "To love another person is to see the face of God." -- Les Misérables unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Mar 16 05:12:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: from entropy.muc.muohio.edu (root@entropy.muc.muohio.edu [134.53.193.10]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA08870 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:12:27 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (root@vger.rutgers.edu [128.6.190.2]) by entropy.muc.muohio.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA22324; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:11:53 -0500 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970845-17937>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:01:47 -0500 Received: from neon-best.transmeta.com ([206.184.214.10]:17485 "EHLO neon.transmeta.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970959-17937>; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 23:58:14 -0500 Received: from gold-1.transmeta.com (mailhost.transmeta.com [10.1.1.79]) by neon.transmeta.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id VAA11155 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:03:24 -0800 Received: from palladium.transmeta.com (bin@palladium.transmeta.com [10.1.1.46]) by gold-1.transmeta.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA03043 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:03:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bin@localhost) by palladium.transmeta.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA31401 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:03:34 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: palladium.transmeta.com: bin set sender to news@transmeta.com using -f To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu From: hpa@transmeta.com (H. Peter Anvin) Subject: Re: Completely wacko idea Date: 16 Mar 1998 05:03:33 GMT Organization: Transmeta Corporation, Santa Clara CA Message-ID: <6eibr5$ul4$1@palladium.transmeta.com> References: <6ei8e6$su4$1@palladium.transmeta.com> Reply-To: hpa@transmeta.com (H. Peter Anvin) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Disclaimer: Not speaking for Transmeta in any way, shape, or form. Copyright: Copyright 1998 H. Peter Anvin - All Rights Reserved X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Followup to: <6ei8e6$su4$1@palladium.transmeta.com> By author: hpa@transmeta.com (H. Peter Anvin) In newsgroup: linux.dev.arm > > Anyone who thinks there is any chance in hell to fit a ARM 7100 > "system-on-a-chip" together with RAM and ROM onto a PalmPilot memory > board? If so, we could make a dual-processor PDA... trčs cool... > > The problem with building your own PDA from scratch is to fit it in a > form factor that makes sense; custom cases are not an option and yet, > you don't want to start your instructions with "buy a PalmPilot and > gut it..." > > -hpa > Okay, I found out the answer myself: it is not doable. The reason is quite simple: PalmPilot board is 32x60 mm; there is at most 1.5 mm of head room until touching the case. Of the height, 3.5 mm is taken up by the leads, leaving 28.5 mm. Unfortunately, the ARM 7100 is 30.4 mm square , lead tip to lead tip (max), which means it is out of the question. I'd really only feel it was even close to realistic if it left only a few mm, so probably 25 mm is about the size the shorter side would have to be. Oh bugger. -hpa -- PGP: 2047/2A960705 BA 03 D3 2C 14 A8 A8 BD 1E DF FE 69 EE 35 BD 74 See http://www.zytor.com/~hpa/ for web page and full PGP public key I am Bahá'í -- ask me about it or see http://www.bahai.org/ "To love another person is to see the face of God." -- Les Misérables unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Mar 16 10:41:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: from entropy.muc.muohio.edu (root@entropy.muc.muohio.edu [134.53.193.10]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA10003 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:41:56 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (root@vger.rutgers.edu [128.6.190.2]) by entropy.muc.muohio.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA08217; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:41:25 -0500 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970978-17937>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:30:43 -0500 Received: from server21.digital.fr ([193.56.15.21]:3806 "EHLO server21.digital.fr" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970976-17937>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:30:33 -0500 Received: from mail.vbo.dec.com (mail.vbo.dec.com [16.36.208.34]) by server21.digital.fr (8.7.5/8.7) with ESMTP id LAA02148; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:35:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from vbormc.vbo.dec.com (vbormc.vbo.dec.com [16.36.208.94]) by mail.vbo.dec.com (8.8.6/8.7) with ESMTP id LAA10858; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:35:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from linux.reo.dec.com (linux.reo.dec.com [16.36.0.79]) by vbormc.vbo.dec.com (8.7.3/8.7) with ESMTP id MAA16090; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:03:50 +0100 Received: from linux.reo.dec.com (rusling@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by linux.reo.dec.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA10029; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:52:53 GMT Message-Id: <199803111752.RAA10029@linux.reo.dec.com> To: "Neil A. Carson" cc: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin , Dave Gilbert , hpa@transmeta.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ARM-based PDA's? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 09 Mar 1998 22:22:28 GMT." <35046BA4.7F6261FA@causality.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:52:51 +0000 From: "Ka'Plaagh" X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO ...it would be if Russell had replied to my mail asking him if he wanted it to be sent. It's sat in my office... Dave ---------------------------------------------------------------------- David A Rusling Consulting Engineer European Semiconductor Applications Digital Equipment Co Ltd., Engineering PO Box 121, Imperial Way, Worton Grange Reading RG2 0TU Linux, Alpha, StrongArm, PCI Tel: UK-(0)1734-204380 Fax: UK-(0)1734-203133 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Mar 16 14:07:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: from entropy.muc.muohio.edu (root@entropy.muc.muohio.edu [134.53.193.10]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA11129 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:06:59 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (root@vger.rutgers.edu [128.6.190.2]) by entropy.muc.muohio.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA11056; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:06:19 -0500 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970980-17937>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:59:42 -0500 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:26739 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970973-17937>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:59:27 -0500 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id OAA11115 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:04:27 GMT From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199803161404.OAA11115@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Acorn CD extensions To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:04:25 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi all. I've knocked together a patch against kernel 2.1.88 for my linux/x86 box which interprets Acorn's CD extensions by replacing `_' with `!' (where appropriate) and appending `,xxx' to the end of filenames to represent filetypes. I realise this isn't quite the right place to announce this, but I'd like some people to test it for me (and how do I go about getting this code integrated?) You can get it from ftp://ftp.barnet.ac.uk/pub/Acorn/armlinux/acorn-cd.patch There's also a rock.patch sat next to it which removes an unnecessary check from the Rock Ridge driver, but this is orthogonal to the other patch. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Mar 17 15:00:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: from entropy.muc.muohio.edu (entropy.muc.muohio.edu [134.53.193.10]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA17909 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:00:43 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (root@vger.rutgers.edu [128.6.190.2]) by entropy.muc.muohio.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA06979; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:59:50 -0500 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970859-23643>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:51:52 -0500 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:6232 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970861-23643>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:51:29 -0500 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id OAA17900; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:57:44 GMT From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199803171457.OAA17900@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Acorn CD extensions errata To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:57:42 +0000 (GMT) Cc: dan@nirvana.isvara.net, xargle@eh.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Terribly sorry about this, I made a mess of the patch. I've regenerated the patch (against 2.1.89 this time) and it's available from the same place. If people were to type in their username at the ftp prompt, I'd mail them directly to let them know. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Mar 18 16:37:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: from entropy.muc.muohio.edu (root@entropy.muc.muohio.edu [134.53.193.10]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA32763 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:37:27 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (root@vger.rutgers.edu [128.6.190.2]) by entropy.muc.muohio.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA00139; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:36:34 -0500 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970962-23643>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:21:40 -0500 Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk ([194.131.104.13]:32983 "HELO golden.argonet.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970992-23643>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:17:09 -0500 Received: from nobody by golden.argonet.co.uk with local (Exim 1.81 #3) id 0yFLgQ-0001Wa-00; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:27:14 +0000 From: Gary shipp To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: RPC Kernel hanging X-Mailer: Argomail 1.01.23 by Roger Spooner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PART-BOUNDARY-890238433-riws" Date: Wed Mar 18 16:27:13 1998 Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO --PART-BOUNDARY-890238433-riws Content-Description: text Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can anyone help? I have a RiscPC and have followed the installation instructions on the web site , but when I try to boot the kernel to make sure it works , it hangs after recognizing the HD and a matshita CD drive. All the rest of the boot sequence appears to be as per the instructions. Hope someone can help! regards Gary --PART-BOUNDARY-890238433-riws-- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Mar 18 22:42:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: from entropy.muc.muohio.edu (root@entropy.muc.muohio.edu [134.53.193.10]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA01796 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:42:51 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (root@vger.rutgers.edu [128.6.190.2]) by entropy.muc.muohio.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA06787; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:42:52 -0500 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971045-23643>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:31:06 -0500 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1622 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971090-23643>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:25:01 -0500 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup2.cymru.net [163.164.160.66]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA20830; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:34:53 GMT Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA21994; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:09:40 GMT From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id WAA00363; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:09:22 GMT Message-Id: <199803182209.WAA00363@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: RPC Kernel hanging To: bi44@argonet.co.uk (Gary shipp) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:09:21 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Gary shipp" at Mar 18, 98 04:27:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Gary shipp writes: > I have a RiscPC and have followed the installation instructions > on the web site , but when I try to boot the kernel to make sure it > works , it hangs after recognizing the HD and a matshita CD drive. > All the rest of the boot sequence appears to be as per the instructions. Exactly *what* hardware do you have? What expansion cards do you have? _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/home.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Mar 19 02:27:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: from entropy.muc.muohio.edu (root@entropy.muc.muohio.edu [134.53.193.10]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA02528 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 02:27:16 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (root@vger.rutgers.edu [128.6.190.2]) by entropy.muc.muohio.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA24848; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:21:23 -0500 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971047-23643>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:10:11 -0500 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:2388 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971090-23643>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:09:56 -0500 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id CAA15373; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 02:20:19 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, bi44@argonet.co.uk (Garyshipp) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 01:55:25 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <9097acbmh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.06b for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Re: RPC Kernel hanging In-Reply-To: <199803182209.WAA00363@raistlin.armlinux.org> Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On 18 Mar, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: Hi there... Just wondering, but I have an A5K with a couple of hundred spare megabytes HD space. It's running a proxy and a webserver under RiscOS, and I'm not installing linux on it unless it'll make the machine more stable, faster, or suchlike. I have an Acorn SCSI 1 and an Acorn Ethernet 1 card (the one with no rom drivers). I have a base spec A5000 4MB, other than that, and an Econet card (not essential this works under linux tho) How can I get linux on it (instuctions for the brain dead) and will it be an advantage? -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Mar 19 10:40:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: from entropy.muc.muohio.edu (root@entropy.muc.muohio.edu [134.53.193.10]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA04068 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:40:45 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (root@vger.rutgers.edu [128.6.190.2]) by entropy.muc.muohio.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA22287; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 05:39:25 -0500 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970858-23842>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 05:27:49 -0500 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:28088 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970857-23842>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 05:27:26 -0500 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (KAA14996); Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:37:42 GMT Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:37:42 +0000 (GMT) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: Ian Molton cc: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, Garyshipp Subject: Re: RPC Kernel hanging In-Reply-To: <9097acbmh120608@staffs.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Ian Molton wrote: > I have an Acorn SCSI 1 and an Acorn Ethernet 1 card (the one with no rom > drivers). I have an Ether1 myself. The card, and the RiscOS driver are both horrendous, and I find that when the card decides it's being overtaxed, it takes out RiscOS a crashes it completely (ie mouse-stops-moving style crash). I have a similar problem under linux with the driver, but it doesn't take out the OS (cos linux is clever like that) and just kills the ether1 til the next reboot. As far as I can tell, the problem lies in the armlinux ether1 driver not resetting the card properly. I've tried hacking about with the driver, comparing it with the RiscBSD driver (which, AFAICR, resets it properly), but I've had no luck yet (though I've only had time to spend a few hours on it so far). So far the only thing I've managed is to utterly nuke the machine while booting ;-). That said, the current ether1 driver will serve you much better than its RiscOS equivalent. Even though the card won't reset after it's entered confused mode it won't take your machine out with it. Also, linux is FAR better suited to a networked environment than RiscOS - basically if you need a machine to run on a network, a unix box is the top choice. Hope this helps, Phil -- Rule of programming #2: Everything that can go wrong will go wrong, but only on other people's configurations. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org forrey@odie.barnet.ac.uk URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Mar 19 11:33:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: from entropy.muc.muohio.edu (root@entropy.muc.muohio.edu [134.53.193.10]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA04353 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:33:04 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (root@vger.rutgers.edu [128.6.190.2]) by entropy.muc.muohio.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA26516; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:33:10 -0500 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970850-23842>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:17:57 -0500 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:5158 "HELO globe" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970965-23842>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:13:36 -0500 Received: from spring.nexus.co.uk [192.0.0.3] (root) by globe with smtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0yFdBD-0003JP-00; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:08:11 +0000 Received: from localhost (spring.nexus.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yFdBC-00014i-00; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:08:10 +0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Phil Norman cc: Ian Molton , Russell King - ARM Linux Admin , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, Garyshipp Subject: Re: RPC Kernel hanging In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:37:42 GMT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:08:09 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >As far as I can tell, the problem lies in the armlinux ether1 driver not >resetting the card properly. I've tried hacking about with the driver, >comparing it with the RiscBSD driver (which, AFAICR, resets it properly), The Ether1 driver could probably share a lot of code with the other 82586 based cards if someone had the inclination to pull it out. Ditto the ether3 and seeq8005. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Mar 19 11:37:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: from entropy.muc.muohio.edu (root@entropy.muc.muohio.edu [134.53.193.10]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA04394 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:37:33 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (root@vger.rutgers.edu [128.6.190.2]) by entropy.muc.muohio.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA27147; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:37:43 -0500 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970965-23842>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:24:07 -0500 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:1049 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970858-23842>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:19:06 -0500 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA05243; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:30:06 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: Phil Norman Cc: linux@arm.uk.linux.org, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, bi44@argonet.co.uk Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:28:20 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <93dee61mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.06b for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Re: RPC Kernel hanging In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On 19 Mar, Phil Norman wrote: > That said, the current ether1 driver will serve you much better than its > RiscOS equivalent. Even though the card won't reset after it's entered > confused mode it won't take your machine out with it. Also, linux is FAR > better suited to a networked environment than RiscOS - basically if you > need a machine to run on a network, a unix box is the top choice. Did you have all this running on an A5000 with 4MB ? if so, how, and where do you get the relevant bits? -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Mar 19 12:06:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: from entropy.muc.muohio.edu (root@entropy.muc.muohio.edu [134.53.193.10]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA04566 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:05:58 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (root@vger.rutgers.edu [128.6.190.2]) by entropy.muc.muohio.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA29572; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:06:27 -0500 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970950-23842>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:54:36 -0500 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:14413 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970847-23842>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:54:17 -0500 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (MAA14732); Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:05:21 GMT Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:05:20 +0000 (GMT) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: Ian Molton cc: Phil Norman , linux@arm.uk.linux.org, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: RPC Kernel hanging In-Reply-To: <93dee61mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Ian Molton wrote: > On 19 Mar, Phil Norman wrote: > > That said, the current ether1 driver will serve you much better than its > > RiscOS equivalent. Even though the card won't reset after it's entered > > confused mode it won't take your machine out with it. Also, linux is FAR > > better suited to a networked environment than RiscOS - basically if you > > need a machine to run on a network, a unix box is the top choice. > > Did you have all this running on an A5000 with 4MB ? No, a RiscPC SA with 22meg. However, there are many people on the list with A5000s (or so it seems to me), so I'm sure they'll be able to give you any specific info you might need. In fact, since the A5000 is ARM3-equipped, the Acorn Ether1 driver will probably work fine. The main problem with it seemed to be the later ARMs (indeed anything ARM610 or over) being too fast, and doing some weird memory stuff. This can be fixed by hacking a large loop into the driver module ;-). This might also mean the armlinux driver will work well with an ARM3, but don't quote me. > if so, how, and where do you get the relevant bits? how = follow the normal installation instructions, available from the armlinux ftp site (ftp.arm.uk.linux.org). Everything should be there. where = same ftp site. The ether1 driver will be compiled into the distributed kernels, and so armlinux should automatically pick it up. See ya, Phil -- Linux: A penguin which jumps through Windows and leaps over Gates. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org forrey@odie.barnet.ac.uk URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Mar 19 12:21:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: from entropy.muc.muohio.edu (root@entropy.muc.muohio.edu [134.53.193.10]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA04665 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:21:50 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (root@vger.rutgers.edu [128.6.190.2]) by entropy.muc.muohio.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA30797; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:21:38 -0500 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970847-23842>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:06:46 -0500 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1740 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970858-23842>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:04:21 -0500 Received: (from alan@localhost) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) id MAA02293; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:15:34 GMT From: Alan Cox Message-Id: <199803191215.MAA02293@snowcrash.cymru.net> Subject: Re: RPC Kernel hanging To: pb@nexus.co.uk (Philip Blundell) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:15:32 +0000 (GMT) Cc: P.C.F.Norman@exeter.ac.uk, mh120608@cr10m.staffs.ac.uk, linux@arm.uk.linux.org, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, bi44@argonet.co.uk In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Mar 19, 98 11:08:09 am Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO > The Ether1 driver could probably share a lot of code with the other 82586 > based cards if someone had the inclination to pull it out. This would probably be a very good thing. Someone started this a very long time ago but never finished it. I archived the pieces if anyone is interested unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Mar 19 20:22:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: from entropy.muc.muohio.edu (root@entropy.muc.muohio.edu [134.53.193.10]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA07464 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:22:18 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (root@vger.rutgers.edu [128.6.190.2]) by entropy.muc.muohio.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA04222; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:22:36 -0500 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970790-23842>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:07:01 -0500 Received: from post-10.mail.demon.net ([193.195.0.154]:52023 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970796-23842>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:06:37 -0500 Received: from quazger.demon.co.uk ([158.152.145.82]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa1022637; 19 Mar 98 20:08 GMT Received: by quazger.demon.co.uk with Microsoft Mail id <01BD5373.3C151140@quazger.demon.co.uk>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:11:43 -0000 Message-ID: <01BD5373.3C151140@quazger.demon.co.uk> From: Keith Griffiths To: "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: A5000 root disk image Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:11:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I am unable to find a copy of the a5000 root disk root-a5k can anyone point me in the right direction to obtain one tia keith unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Mar 19 22:19:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: from entropy.muc.muohio.edu (root@entropy.muc.muohio.edu [134.53.193.10]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA07910 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 22:19:05 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (root@vger.rutgers.edu [128.6.190.2]) by entropy.muc.muohio.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA09465; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:19:37 -0500 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970986-23842>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:49:56 -0500 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:3255 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970794-23842>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:49:25 -0500 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id WAA04726; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 22:00:59 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: Phil Norman Cc: P.C.F.Norman@exeter.ac.uk, linux@arm.uk.linux.org, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:58:47 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <977a6aamh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.06b for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Re: RPC Kernel hanging In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO On 19 Mar, Phil Norman wrote: > > if so, how, and where do you get the relevant bits? > how = follow the normal installation instructions, available from the > armlinux ftp site (ftp.arm.uk.linux.org). Everything should be there. > where = same ftp site. > The ether1 driver will be compiled into the distributed kernels, and so > armlinux should automatically pick it up. Excellent! now... all I need is a 36 hour day :-) -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Womens human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Mar 20 15:31:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: from entropy.muc.muohio.edu (root@entropy.muc.muohio.edu [134.53.193.10]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA11592 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:31:31 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (root@vger.rutgers.edu [128.6.190.2]) by entropy.muc.muohio.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA24498; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:31:14 -0500 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970933-23996>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:12:04 -0500 Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk ([194.131.104.13]:54114 "HELO golden.argonet.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970898-23996>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:10:22 -0500 Received: from al033.du.pipex.com (argonet.co.uk) [193.130.251.33] by golden.argonet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #3) id 0yG3dD-0006Pf-00; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:22:51 +0000 Message-ID: <3512FA0E.D79CAD65@argonet.co.uk> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:21:50 -0800 From: Gary Shipp X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re:RPC Kernel hanging Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Gary Shipp wrote: > Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > > > Gary shipp writes: > > > I have a RiscPC and have followed the installation instructions > > > on the web site , but when I try to boot the kernel to make sure it > > > works , it hangs after recognizing the HD and a matshita CD drive. > > > All the rest of the boot sequence appears to be as per the instructions. > > > > Exactly *what* hardware do you have? What expansion cards do you have? > > The hardware I have is as follows :- > > Arm610 and StrongArm (only 1 installed at a time , the 610 at the moment) > 1 Standard RPC 1.7Gb HD > 1 CD Rom drive as installed by CJE ( I don't know the make) > 1 Castle Storm DMA32 SCSI card > 2 SCSI HD's > 1 Atomwide triple serial card > 80 Mb RAM > > plus printers,scanners,cd-rw > > regards > > Gary unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Mar 20 18:18:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: from entropy.muc.muohio.edu (root@entropy.muc.muohio.edu [134.53.193.10]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA12191 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:18:44 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (root@vger.rutgers.edu [128.6.190.2]) by entropy.muc.muohio.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA05018; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:18:45 -0500 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970839-23996>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:56:05 -0500 Received: from dns1.enterprise.net ([194.72.192.3]:4178 "EHLO dns1.enterprise.net" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970866-23996>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:54:36 -0500 Received: from stop.reading.the.headers.numptie (ppp201.enterprise.net [194.72.195.201]) by dns1.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA04515 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:07:21 GMT Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:03:29 +0000 (GMT) From: micm Subject: printing from linux To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: The Organization Trained To Yap (TOTTY) X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.45] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Right, I managed eventually to get Linux installed, after a bit of trouble with leftover partition tables. I downloaded all the RPMS and choose install everything so in theory I should have all the printing stuff installed. So, in the X control-panel, I went into the printer configuration to add a printer. I added a printer, name lp, set the filter options to bj200, 360*360dpi, a4 paper etc. Now the device has to be set. I tried lp0, lp1 and lp2. None of them gave me any output. Looking in lpq it tells me "waiting for printer (offline?)" I'm trying to print stuff from Ghosview btw. The jobs show up in lpq but never get printed. So an easy question for you lot: what am i doing wrong???? TIA micm -- From Michael Marshall, using an Acorn StrongARM RiscPC @ 202.4MHz Running RiscOS / ARMLinux / DOS & Win95 Mail me at: mailto:micm@enterprise.net Visit the NUMPTIE XONE : http://homepages.enterprise.net/micm "Danger could be my middle name.....but it's James" unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Mar 24 01:53:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: from entropy.muc.muohio.edu (mail@entropy.muc.muohio.edu [134.53.193.10]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA32198 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 01:52:56 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (vger.rutgers.edu 128.6.190.2) by entropy.muc.muohio.edu (VMailer) via SMTP id 1C2AC370FE; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:50:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970909-19466>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:48:46 -0500 Received: from mail1.digital.com ([204.123.2.50]:2732 "EHLO mail1.digital.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970994-19466>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:17:25 -0500 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/WV1.0c) with SMTP id RAA11364 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:18:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from stowe.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA08502; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:18:31 -0800 Received: by stowe.pa.dec.com; (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AA11069; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:18:57 -0800 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:18:57 -0800 Message-Id: <199803240118.AA11069@stowe.pa.dec.com> From: Deborah Wallach To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: debuggers for arm linux? Address: Digital Equipment Corporation; Western Research Laboratory; 250 University Avenue; Palo Alto, CA 94301; USA Phone: 650-617-3315 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi. I've been using ARM Linux for a while, and I'm quite happy with it, but I'd really like to have a debugger for it. I heard a rumor that gdb was available, but I can't seem to find it on any of the web or ftp sites. Is there a port of any debugger? And if so, can I have access to it? Thanks in advance. -Deborah Wallach unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Mar 26 17:43:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: from entropy.muc.muohio.edu (mail@entropy.muc.muohio.edu [134.53.193.10]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA02234 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:42:58 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (vger.rutgers.edu 128.6.190.2) by entropy.muc.muohio.edu (VMailer) via SMTP id 1C6CD0698D; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:57:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971490-23959>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:37:21 -0500 Received: from cptsg4.univ-mrs.fr ([139.124.7.104]:15385 "HELO cptsg4" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971496-23959>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:37:03 -0500 Received: from cptsg4 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cptsg4 (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA03108 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:40:15 +0100 Message-ID: <351A76DE.41C6@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:40:14 +0100 From: Vincent PENNE Organization: Centre de Physique Theorique de Marseille X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01S (X11; I; IRIX64 6.2 IP28) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: virtual memory limitation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO I got some problem with gcc exceeding his virtual memory. It happens when gcc want to use more than 10Mb of memory, although I have still a lot of free memory. How can I increase the virtual memory that a programm is allowed to use ? I could not find this basic information anywhere !! Vincent. -- /==========================================================\ | Vincent PENNE, Centre de Physique Theorique | |Tel. (0033)4 91 26 95 04 CNRS - LUMINY - Case 907 | |Fax. (0033)4 91 26 95 53 F-13288 MARSEILLE CEDEX 9 | |Email: penne@cpt.univ-mrs.fr FRANCE | |http://www.cpt.univ-mrs.fr | \==========================================================/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Mar 27 02:58:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from entropy.muc.muohio.edu (mail@entropy.muc.muohio.edu [134.53.193.10]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA03919 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 02:58:50 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (vger.rutgers.edu 128.6.190.2) by entropy.muc.muohio.edu (VMailer) via SMTP id 1CFE2DA020; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:08:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971497-23959>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:42:40 -0500 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:61106 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971569-23959>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:33:31 -0500 Received: from succexpr.demon.co.uk ([158.152.208.192]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2005729; 27 Mar 98 2:30 GMT Message-ID: <351B05D3.254E9B67@causality.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 01:50:11 +0000 From: "Neil A. Carson" Organization: Causality Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vincent PENNE Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: virtual memory limitation References: <351A76DE.41C6@cpt.univ-mrs.fr> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------837908001B095D02D58C9EBE" X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------837908001B095D02D58C9EBE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Vincent PENNE wrote: > I got some problem with gcc exceeding his virtual memory. It happens > when gcc want to use more than 10Mb of memory, although I have still a > lot of free memory. How can I increase the virtual memory that a > programm is allowed to use ? I could not find this basic information > anywhere !! Type unlimit. Neil -- Neil A. Carson Business development, Causality and Chalice Technology Causality: WWW: http://www.causality.com email: neil@causality.com Chalice Tech: WWW: http://www.chaltech.com email: neil@chaltech.com Office contact: Tel/Fax: +44 (0)181 930 7408 Mobile: +44 (0)370 593183 SA110+1100, 21285/PCI, ARM, 3D, RTOSs, NetBSD, Image Processing, NC OSs --------------837908001B095D02D58C9EBE Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Neil A. Carson Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Neil A. Carson n: Carson;Neil A. email;internet: neil@causality.com x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------837908001B095D02D58C9EBE-- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Mar 27 10:22:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: from entropy.muc.muohio.edu (mail@entropy.muc.muohio.edu [134.53.193.10]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA05251 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:22:46 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (vger.rutgers.edu 128.6.190.2) by entropy.muc.muohio.edu (VMailer) via SMTP id 1DC35AC703; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:05:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970931-23959>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:08:44 -0500 Received: from monarch.ja.net ([128.86.16.37]:64659 "EHLO monarch.ja.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970945-23959>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:07:34 -0500 Received: from sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by monarch.ja.net with SPAM-CHECKED SMTP (PP); Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:16:43 +0000 Received: from bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk by sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk with NRS SMTP (PP); Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:16:39 +0000 Received: from diana.ecs.soton.ac.uk by bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk; Fri, 27 Mar 98 10:13:51 GMT From: Russ King Message-Id: <27770.9803271016@diana.ecs.soton.ac.uk> Subject: Re: virtual memory limitation To: neil@causality.com (Neil A. Carson) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:16:14 +0000 (GMT) Cc: penne@cptsu5.univ-mrs.fr, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <351B05D3.254E9B67@causality.com> from "Neil A. Carson" at Mar 27, 98 01:50:11 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-Envid: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<27770.9803271016@diana.ecs.soto] Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Neil A. Carson writes: > > I got some problem with gcc exceeding his virtual memory. It happens > > when gcc want to use more than 10Mb of memory, although I have still a > > lot of free memory. How can I increase the virtual memory that a > > programm is allowed to use ? I could not find this basic information > > anywhere !! > > Type unlimit. The limitation is due to Linux A.OUT binaries running on old machines - this will be solved when we have ELF (shortly). unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Mar 28 20:58:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: from entropy.muc.muohio.edu (mail@entropy.muc.muohio.edu [134.53.193.10]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA10797 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 20:57:59 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (vger.rutgers.edu 128.6.190.2) by entropy.muc.muohio.edu (VMailer) via SMTP id 2BE914620B; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:35:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971032-2272>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:42:49 -0500 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1655 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971067-2272>; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:42:32 -0500 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yJ1BW-0000sb-00; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 19:22:30 +0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: fiq Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 19:22:30 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi Russell. Here's a patch against kernel 2.1 to add rudimentary support for claiming and releasing FIQs. We need something like this to avoid disaster when people have more than one FIQ-generating device in the system. At the moment there is no support for informing devices when the FIQ is available to be claimed, but we can add that later. I think it would be good if something like this was included in the kernel. By the way, did you get my mail about struct sigaction last week? I didn't see a reply but I've had some trouble with my mail here in the last few days. p. --- linux/arch/arm/kernel/irq.c~ Sat Mar 14 21:28:46 1998 +++ linux/arch/arm/kernel/irq.c Sat Mar 28 18:47:49 1998 @@ -3,6 +3,7 @@ * * Copyright (C) 1992 Linus Torvalds * Modifications for ARM processor Copyright (C) 1995, 1996 Russell King. + * FIQ support written by Philip Blundell , 1998. * * This file contains the code used by various IRQ handling routines: * asking for different IRQ's should be done through these routines @@ -34,10 +35,14 @@ #include #include #include +#include +#include unsigned int local_bh_count[NR_CPUS]; unsigned int local_irq_count[NR_CPUS]; spinlock_t irq_controller_lock; +static struct fiq_handler *current_fiq; +static unsigned long no_fiq_insn; #ifndef SMP #define irq_enter(cpu, irq) (++local_irq_count[cpu]) @@ -98,6 +103,8 @@ } *p++ = '\n'; } + p += sprintf(p, "FIQ: %s\n", + current_fiq?current_fiq->name:"unused"); return p - buf; } @@ -332,5 +339,33 @@ { extern void init_dma(void); irq_init_irq(); + current_fiq = NULL; + /* Save a copy of the default FIQ handler (installed by trap_init) */ + no_fiq_insn = *((unsigned long *)0x1c); init_dma(); +} + +int claim_fiq(struct fiq_handler *f) +{ + if (current_fiq) { + if (current_fiq->callback == NULL || (*current_fiq->callback)()) + return -EBUSY; + } + current_fiq = f; + return 0; +} + +void release_fiq(struct fiq_handler *f) +{ + if (current_fiq != f) { + printk(KERN_ERR "%s tried to release FIQ when not owner!\n", + f->name); +#ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_ERRORS + __backtrace(); +#endif + return; + } + current_fiq = NULL; + *((unsigned long *)0x1c) = no_fiq_insn; + flush_page_to_ram(0); } --- /dev/null Sun Oct 12 19:38:15 1997 +++ linux/include/asm-arm/fiq.h Sat Mar 28 18:08:57 1998 @@ -0,0 +1,16 @@ +/* Support for FIQ on ARM architectures. + * Written by Philip Blundell , 1998 + */ + +#ifndef __ASM_FIQ_H +#define __ASM_FIQ_H + +struct fiq_handler { + const char *name; + int (*callback)(void); +}; + +extern int claim_fiq(struct fiq_handler *f); +extern void release_fiq(struct fiq_handler *f); + +#endif --- linux/arch/arm/kernel/dma-a5k.c~ Sun Mar 15 13:45:17 1998 +++ linux/arch/arm/kernel/dma-a5k.c Sat Mar 28 18:16:08 1998 @@ -12,6 +12,9 @@ #include #include #include +#include + +static struct fiq_handler fh = { "floppydma", NULL }; #include "dma.h" @@ -59,6 +62,11 @@ fiqhandler_start = &floppy_fiqout_start; fiqhandler_length = &floppy_fiqout_end - &floppy_fiqout_start; } + if (claim_fiq (&fh)) + { + printk("floppydma: couldn't claim FIQ.\n"); + return; + } memcpy ((void *)0x1c, fiqhandler_start, fiqhandler_length); flush_page_to_ram(0); floppy_fiqsetup (dma->buf.length, __bus_to_virt(dma->buf.address), (int)PCIO_FLOPPYDMABASE); @@ -70,8 +78,10 @@ { if (channel != DMA_VIRTUAL_FLOPPY0) printk ("arch_disable_dma: invalid channel %d\n", channel); - else + else { disable_irq (dma->dma_irq); + release_fiq (&fh); + } } __initfunc(void arch_dma_init(dma_t *dma)) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Mar 29 13:54:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: from entropy.muc.muohio.edu (mail@entropy.muc.muohio.edu [134.53.193.10]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA13129 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:54:49 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (vger.rutgers.edu 128.6.190.2) by entropy.muc.muohio.edu (VMailer) via SMTP id 9F855154F; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 07:54:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971120-2272>; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 07:38:46 -0500 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:2169 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971125-2272>; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 07:37:52 -0500 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yJGsN-0003pJ-00; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:07:47 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: fiq In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:48:45 GMT." <199803282248.WAA02556@raistlin.armlinux.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:07:46 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO >The other reason that I took it out was because the ARM3 isn't fast enough >to work out the reason for the FIQ and then dispatch it to, say, the floppy >handler - I've tried it! I know. It's not just the ARM3 - you can't do it on an ARM7500. Maybe a StrongARM would be OK but I wouldn't like to bet on it. The problem is that as soon as you start multiplexing FIQ routines you have to save and restore all the FIQ-mode registers on entry and exit. >Hence, I think that there ought to be some method of passing a pointer to the >code that you want to execute, a size, and possibly a flag argument to >claim_fiq to say 'please copy this code to the FIQ vector' or 'please put a >code jump into the FIQ vector to point to my routine'. What my patch gives you, as you'll find out if you read it, is an interface where you call claim_fiq() simply to find out whether anybody else is using the FIQ (or if they're prepared to give it up). Assuming that nobody objects it's then up to you to do whatever you want, like copying code down to 1c or installing a jump. You supply a function pointer but this is _not_ the FIQ handler - it's for the kernel to call if somebody later wants to steal the FIQ from under you, and it can be NULL if you're never prepared to allow this (eg the floppydma handler). When you call release_fiq() the kernel reinstalls its default "unexpected fiq" handler. This ought to be all fairly familiar stuff to anybody who's used FIQs under RISC OS. All that we're missing, and the only thing that needs it is Econet, is the ability to install a default FIQ handler that gets used when nobody else wants fiqs. How does that sound? >to be written in assembler still (esp as it doesn't have any stack). There's no reason why a handler couldn't have a stack if it wanted one, of course. But I agree that for Acorn machines at least, writing FIQ handlers in C isn't likely to be a winning idea. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Mar 30 16:36:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: from entropy.muc.muohio.edu (mail@entropy.muc.muohio.edu [134.53.193.10]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA17535 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:36:10 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (vger.rutgers.edu 128.6.190.2) by entropy.muc.muohio.edu (VMailer) via SMTP id 1EF1171357; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:08:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971364-2272>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:54:31 -0500 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:27861 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971147-2272>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:49:56 -0500 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (QAA16539); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:07:22 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:07:22 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: ARM Linux Subject: IscaFS 0.04 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi! This email is just to tell you all that I'm unbelievable stupid and have left my discs at home. However, I'll be bringing them in later this week and then I'll be uploading 0.04 of IscaFS, which seems to be pretty much bug-free. Until then, byesy bye, Phil -- Linux: The choice of a GNU generation. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org forrey@odie.barnet.ac.uk URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Mar 31 14:09:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: from entropy.muc.muohio.edu (entropy.muc.muohio.edu [134.53.193.10]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA21749 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:06:54 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (vger.rutgers.edu 128.6.190.2) by entropy.muc.muohio.edu (VMailer) via SMTP id 20843374CB; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:43:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970796-2272>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:44:31 -0500 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:26599 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970969-2272>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:44:12 -0500 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (NAA14550); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:52:07 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:52:07 +0100 (BST) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: ARM Linux Subject: IscaFS 0.04 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Hi! After yesterday's complete stupidity (or forgetfulness, or both), I've actually brought IscaFS with me today and have just uploaded it to ftp.barnet.ac.uk. ftp.barnet is IscaFS's new home since, as you may know already, IscaFS is now being cowritten by Matthew Wilcox and myself, and using ftp.barnet we can both upload to it. So there is the place to look from now on for future releases (although they'll still be announced on here). I think I've already mentioned the new features/bug fixes yesterday, so I'll just tell you where to get it: ftp://ftp.barnet.ac.uk/pub/Acorn/armlinux/iscafs In that directory there are two files, 'iscafs.0.04.zip' which is the current version, 'iscafs.txt' which is a short text file describing what the zip file is, and 'iscafs.zip' which is a symbolic link which will always be updated to point to the latest version of IscaFS. Anyway, bye for now, and good luck with IscaFS (IOW, I hope there aren't any bugs I don't know about ;-). See ya, Phil -- Rule of programming #4: The length of time taken to find a bug is directly proportional to its simplicity. Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter University. email: forrey@eh.org forrey@odie.barnet.ac.uk URL: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Mar 31 15:40:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mnemonic.muc.muohio.edu (mnemonic.muc.muohio.edu [134.53.193.9]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA22238 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:40:05 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (vger.rutgers.edu 128.6.190.2) by mnemonic.muc.muohio.edu (VMailer) via SMTP id 210C4F4036; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:40:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971024-2272>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:17:51 -0500 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:2659 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971054-2272>; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:16:45 -0500 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id PAA22111; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:12:17 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199803311412.PAA22111@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: IscaFS 0.04 To: P.C.F.Norman@exeter.ac.uk (Phil Norman) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:12:16 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Phil Norman" at Mar 31, 98 01:52:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Phil Norman > already, IscaFS is now being cowritten by Matthew Wilcox and myself, and Phil's too kind! I've implemented volume naming in my personal copy, and I'll make those diffs available RSN, that is, as soon as I borrow a monitor for my RPC. As an added bonus, I also do disc cycle, cos it was easy to add. -- Set Alias$Case Set Alias$[ |||| |MSet Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ \ Matthew "" |MSet Alias$When If %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$[ "" ||MIf %0=%%0 \ Wilcox Then Set Alias$Otherwise Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| ||MIf \ %0=%%0 Then Set Alias$When Set Alias$[ |||||||||||||||| unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu