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Hi all.

I'd like to get some opinions about the mailing list, and whether the
one main mailing list is sufficient.

Some people have been mentioning that they are unsubscribing because it
has too much activity on it.

Currently, everything to do with ARM Linux is on the one mailing list,
linux-arm@vger, however we do have arm-linux@tardis.ed.ac.uk (I think it's
still active), so in effect we have some 'spare' room.

If you think that the linux-arm:
a) is too diverse in subject content
b) is too busy

then please mail linux@arm.uk.linux.org.

Thanks.
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Philip Blundell writes:
> That said, I was thinking the other day that maybe creating a new list for 
> people interested in actively working on the code might be a good idea.

Why take the bother of creating a new list when there's an arm-linux list
hanging around on tardis that's not in use?
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Hi all!

I thought that it was time for some small fun, so...

Great news for all those Doom fans out there - we now have LinuxDoom v1.10
working, complete with sound.  You can find the binaries on the usual FTP
site:

   ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/distrib/non-chargeable/doom

To unpack, simply untar the tar file using:

	cd /
	tar zxf linuxdoom-1.10-bin.tar.gz

It will unpack into /usr/games/bin and /usr/games/bin/doom.

Note that you will have to obtain your own copy of the .wad files required
by the doom engine.

Enjoy!  (btw, I resisted the temptation to change the cheat codes ;))
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On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:

> Hi all!
> 
> I thought that it was time for some small fun, so...
> 
> Great news for all those Doom fans out there - we now have LinuxDoom v1.10
> working, complete with sound.  You can find the binaries on the usual FTP
> site:
> 
>    ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/distrib/non-chargeable/doom
> 
> To unpack, simply untar the tar file using:
> 
> 	cd /
> 	tar zxf linuxdoom-1.10-bin.tar.gz
> 
> It will unpack into /usr/games/bin and /usr/games/bin/doom.
> 
> Note that you will have to obtain your own copy of the .wad files required
> by the doom engine.
> 
> Enjoy!  (btw, I resisted the temptation to change the cheat codes ;))
Ooo. Much fun. Shame it's not going to be so hot on an ARM2 at 8Mhz.
Still, worth a shot maybe. The RISC OS one ran at about 1fps. :)

My exams just finished, I'll get to work on the 1K/sector floppy drivers
again tonight. :)

--
James Craig <jcraig@mad.scientist.com>

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Hi!

I'm getting REALLY annoyed with my Ether1 card, since it's a pile of poo 
and keeps dying on me.  Therefore I'm considering getting a newer card 
second-hand, but It'd have to work with armlinux, since that's the OS I 
mainly use ethernet in.

>From what I've been told by various people, an EtherH 500 or 600 is the 
one to go for.  Does anyone have such a card, and does it work?

Thanks very much in advance,
Phil

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I have long felt that the linux-arm development effort has adopted the
linux code but not the development method that made linux the success it
is. The paper pointed to be the following URL discusses what the linux
development method. I think it is probable the most significent writing
on  the topic of project managment since the Mythical man month.

http://earthspace.net/~esr/writings/cathedral-paper.html

If you don't agree with me then please read the following extact from an
email that was posted to this sight around Christmass. Russell's posting
that led to this responce ( which I long ago zapped). Russell's earlier
emails stating he didn't want to post the source for arm linux as he
would get email from inexperienced users and so on.

As this posting is very blunt, I expect very blunt responces, but before
you flame me please read the above paper.




\
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\
> No Phil.  Your patch does the following:
>
> *     Changes the help descriptions for the ethernet cards.

That's true.  I hadn't particularly intended for that to leak into the
patch.

> * Moves the kernel link address back to 0x1800000, which is where it
was
> originally.

Yes, on your advice.

> * Changes a few #definitions to to with processor and machine type
with
> no overall
>       effect, especially the processor definitions.
>       Do you really understand the meaning of the __arm2__ __arm3__
> etc *compiler*
>       definitions?

Yes.  gcc 2.8 doesn't define __arm2__ or __arm3__ if you give it the
-mapcs= and -mcpu= options, so with the old #ifdefs you ended up getting

support for no CPUs at all.  You do still get __arm3__ defined with -m3,

but you also get complaints about this being an obsolete option.

> * Removes *all* support for the binutils currently supplied with the
ARM
> Linux
>       distribution.

Since the support was 50% gone already, this strikes me as little
hardship.  The binutils with this problem fixed has been available for
months.

> *     Removes the floppy code's ARM architecture dependence.

Why, exactly, do you feel this is bad?  I'm slightly confused as to
which
patch you're talking about here.  The one I had last week removed the
architecture dependence, and your reaction to that was "good".
Unfortunately I goofed slightly and the result wouldn't compile
properly (and I left out some debug stuff).  This newer patch remedies
that; I don't understand your objection.

> * Slightly optimises the __xchg() function in terms of memory data
> space.

... and, more importantly, allows you to compile armksyms.c on a5k
machines.

> * Unnecessarily changes the decompressor code.
>       If your compiler can't hack that, then throw it away - it's not
ANSI
>       conformant, and must be broken.

It's gcc, and I don't know of any alternative.

> *     Various spelling corrections.
I can't see that they do any harm either, though I agree that the world
won't end without them.

> In effect, what Phil is trying to do is to remove as many changes as
> possible to the driver code that has moved from the drivers
directories
> to the arch/arm/drivers heirarchy.

That's true, and last time I posted a patch to do this you were all in
favour.

> What is the point in reversing some of the changes made to *improve*
the
> performance of the 2.0 kernels when we're moving towards the 2.1
> kernels?

Because the fewer gratuitous changes we have, the less work there is to
do
with the merge.  If you want to fix 8390.c to go faster, then since it's

not an ARM specific change there's no need to make another copy of the
file.

> There have been *no* bug fixes in this patch whatsoever, in fact,
there

If that's your opinion, fine.  Merry Christmas, by the way.



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Hi

I'm a fairly seasoned i386 linux user (Just about to upgrade to Redhat
5.0) and recently acquired a second IDE drive and decided to put Arm Linux
on my RPC.  (This is actually being written on it using an Amiga A3000).

I've got part the way through the installation on my 1st generation RPC
600 but can't find away to actually read the RPMS.  BTW I've got
everything bar the RPMS from the web/ftp site.  The RPMS are in the
X-files directory on the Acorn clan cd and I assume ArmLinux can't read
this archive anyway but may be wrong.

My current setup is

RPC 600
486SX
Cumana 1 SCSI card
261 Mb IDE
210 Mb IDE
0.5Gb SCSI
Sony 2x CD-ROM

The machine boots from the SCSI drive which is all RiscOS.  The 261Mb
drive is 20Mb filecore, 32 Mb linux swap and the remainder linux native.
The second IDE is essentially a blank filecore IDE.

Basically the installer wont install the cumana_1.o module even though the
startup info shows its found the card.  Neither will it install ppa.o
which means I can't read either a cdrom or a zip disc (I have a parallel
version).  (Incidentally popping up a term in the loaded and checking
/proc/ioports says the system has no parallel port.  It does and it
works!).  Loading from FTP requires a network card which I don't have, as
does NFS (otherwise I would have loaded from my PC Linux box).  So all I
was left with was harddrive, unfortunately this means an ext2 partition
and I can't just set up a drive on my PC linux box because of the
differing partition tables.

Using the installer and the shell I have set up the swap space and
formatted the root partition.  I can mount them and mount the second IDE
using mount -t adfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/adfs but as the boot discs don't have a
copy command I can't copy anything off of it.

Basically I'm stuck and don't know what to do now.  If someone can email
me an ArmLinux cp command can I then create a an ext2 floppy (on my PC
linux box) and then mount and install it with the boot discs.  I can then
copy the RPMS across from my second IDE on to the linux partition and then
install it!

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Regards

Melanie

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On Sat, 14 Feb 1998, Melanie Rhianna Lewis wrote:

> I've got part the way through the installation on my 1st generation RPC
> 600 but can't find away to actually read the RPMS.  BTW I've got
> everything bar the RPMS from the web/ftp site.  The RPMS are in the
> X-files directory on the Acorn clan cd and I assume ArmLinux can't read
> this archive anyway but may be wrong.

This is quite a tricky process, but I've written an installation guide 
for people installing from the Clan CD.  This can be downloaded from my 
web site (URL in the sig).


> does NFS (otherwise I would have loaded from my PC Linux box).  So all I
> was left with was harddrive, unfortunately this means an ext2 partition
> and I can't just set up a drive on my PC linux box because of the
> differing partition tables.

Actually, arm-Linux can read DOS partitions with no problems.  If you 
format an IDE disc on PC-linux arm-linux should be able to read it fine.


> Using the installer and the shell I have set up the swap space and
> formatted the root partition.  I can mount them and mount the second IDE
> using mount -t adfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/adfs but as the boot discs don't have a
> copy command I can't copy anything off of it.
> 
> Basically I'm stuck and don't know what to do now.  If someone can email
> me an ArmLinux cp command can I then create a an ext2 floppy (on my PC
> linux box) and then mount and install it with the boot discs.  I can then
> copy the RPMS across from my second IDE on to the linux partition and then
> install it!

Ah.. You've just described exactly what's in my installation guide.  In 
this case, there are two things you can do.

1: if you don't already have instimage or base (which are on the ftp 
site), it's probably best to download the installation guide I mentioned 
earlier, since that has both instimage and base in it.  It also has some 
instructions, but ignore these - you've done most of it already and are 
obviously quite competent enough not to need them.  All you need to do is 
put instimage and base in the right places and copy your RPMs across from 
RiscOS.  I have heard rumours of a linux x-files archive reader, but have 
never seen it, so the only way I know how to do it is to copy things 
into zip files (don't use tar - RiscOS tar does unspeakable things to 
filenames extensions, of which rpms have plenty).  Then installation is 
just a case of using the 'hard disc' option.

2: get hold of 'cp' and 'rpm2cpio' and install the rpms by hand ;-)

BTW, nice utilities like cp and unzip (basically everything I thought 
people would possibly need) are included in the installation guide 
archive.  However, you don't need to create an ext2 floppy, since the 
bootable kernels can all read/write msdos-formatted discs (and can 
probably read adfs discs too, but I've never tried that).

Anyway, best of luck,
Phil


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I tried Linuxdoom, and it didn't work. I write here the message I got :

"R_Init : Init DOOM refresh daemon - Error : W_GetNumForName : PNAMES
not found !"

I tried with Doom.wad and Doom2.wad, and got the same result ...

If you don't want to bother to look what is the problem, could you tell
me where did you get the source from ? And maybe also what modifications
you had to do in order to make it work (I mean compile) ?

Thank !
Vincent.

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On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Vincent PENNE wrote:

> I tried Linuxdoom, and it didn't work. I write here the message I got :
> 
> "R_Init : Init DOOM refresh daemon - Error : W_GetNumForName : PNAMES
> not found !"
> 
> I tried with Doom.wad and Doom2.wad, and got the same result ...
This is a problem with ix86 Linux doom too. You just need really up to
date DOOM wad files, and they need to be called "doom.wad" not "Doom.WAD"
or "DOOM.WAD" or whatever.
Try renaming to all lower case before you try anything else; If that
doesn't work, check the version numbers on your WAD files.
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Here's one for all the experts.....

I'm trying to install ArmLinux on my ADFS HD.  Machine is SA RPC.

Need to format the Linux partition (number 3) as ext 2.

1. Load up installer using root disk.
2. Load supplemental disk.
3. Go to virtual console.
4. Drive is ADFS::4 - native partition is 3 so make /dev/hda3 with
   mknod /dev/hda3 b 3 3
5. Try to ext2 format the partition with
   mke2fs /dev/hda3

Get the following error:

mke2fs 1.04, 16 May 96 for EXT2FS 0.5b 95/08/09
ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or dir while determining whether
/dev/hda3 is mounted
/dev/hda3: Invalid argument while setting up superblock


Why???????!!

Setup of machine is:
ADFS:4 - 1.6Mb Seagate HD.  3146 Cyl.  2000 for Filecore
ADFS:5 - not present.
CDFS:0 - ATAPI CD on ADFS bus as slave to Seagate drive.

IDEFS:4 / IDEFS:5 - BigFoot 4Gb drive split into 2 2Gb filecore
partitions.  Linux has nothing to do with this drive.

SCSI:0 - Zip drive
CDFS:1 - SCSI CD drive - both on castle card so not recognised.

Any ideas what's wrong?

I can mount /dev/hda1 as an adfs disk
(using mount -t adfs /dev/hda1 /adfs)

so why does it not seem to recognise my hda3 so it can format it??

PartMan 1.04 shows:

Partition	Start		End		Size		Type
1 		0 		2015999 	984 MB 		Filecore
2		2016000		2016001		1   KB		Table
3		2016002		3025007		493 MB		Linux Native
4		3025008		3171167		71  MB		Linux Swap

Stats are shown as
Total size : 1548
Sector size: 512
Cylinders  : 3146
Heads      : 16
Sectors    : 63

Partman 1.11 shows the disc as having no partitions i.e. all free and
won't do anything to it.  This is obviously wrong as I have all sorts of
(backed up!) stuff sitting in the ~1000Mb filecore partition on that
disc.


Hope this is enough information!! If you want to know anything that I've
not (!!) mentioned then drop me an email...


Thanks in advance...

Mike.
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Dear all,

I am trying to install Linux onto a RPC with a 3.6 gig hard drive.
I want to allocate about 600 meg to Linux, leaving the rest for filecore.
!Hform and PartMan appear to work fine, but the RedHat installer will not
recognise the Swap space.

However, if Filecore has 2 gig or less, (ie <4096 cylinders), then the
swap space IS found.

But, in either case it will not mount the ADFS (Filecore) partition.

Has anyone been successful in installing Linux on a big hard disc??

Thanks for any advice.

Rob Bergs
reb197@soton.ac.uk

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On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, Robert Bergs wrote:
> I am trying to install Linux onto a RPC with a 3.6 gig hard drive.
> I want to allocate about 600 meg to Linux, leaving the rest for filecore.
> !Hform and PartMan appear to work fine, but the RedHat installer will not
> recognise the Swap space.
> 
> However, if Filecore has 2 gig or less, (ie <4096 cylinders), then the
> swap space IS found.
> 
> Has anyone been successful in installing Linux on a big hard disc??

I have ARM linux running fine on a 3.6 gig drive, but I only allocated
about 500 Mb to filecore.  Can't help more than that I am afraid. 

Richard Simpson
Farnborough, Hants, Uk                 Fax: 01252 392118
rsimpson@ewrcsdra.demon.co.uk

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micm writes:
> mke2fs 1.04, 16 May 96 for EXT2FS 0.5b 95/08/09
> ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or dir while determining whether
> /dev/hda3 is mounted
> /dev/hda3: Invalid argument while setting up superblock

Could you please mail the last few kernel messages (on Alt-F4)?  You should
see something like:

Partition check:
   hda: [ADFS] hda1 [Linux] hda2 hda3 hda4

Thanks.
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Robert Bergs writes:
> !Hform and PartMan appear to work fine, but the RedHat installer will not
> recognise the Swap space.
> 
> However, if Filecore has 2 gig or less, (ie <4096 cylinders), then the
> swap space IS found.
> 
> But, in either case it will not mount the ADFS (Filecore) partition.

Could you please mail me the kernel messages (on Alt-F4) indicating which
partitions have been recognised in all cases.  They should look something
like:

Partition check:
  hda: [ADFS] hda1 [Linux] hda2 hda3 hda4
   _____
  |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+-
  |   |        Russell King        rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk        --- ---
  | | | |    http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/home.html      /  /  |
  | +-+-+                                                     --- -+-
  /   |               THE developer of ARM Linux              |+| /|\
 /  | | |                                                     ---  |
    +-+-+ -------------------------------------------------  /\\\  |

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Hi,
  On ftp.compsoc.man.ac.uk in /pub/ARMLinux is swapon.old and mkswap.old
which should work on old machines - the release binary has (did have?)
a bug which caused it to fail on the old machines.

(This may also be needed on A5000 ?)
Note these binaries are ancient.

Tell me if this fixes it.

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Thanks to all who replied to my partion problem.
I now have another!
Fed up with not being able to mount ADFS, I thought I could install direct
from CD :)
I FTP'd everything, put it in a directory called RedHat, and burnt it into
a CD. Problems :-

a ) ISO 9660 only supports 8.3 filenames - so all filenames get truncated.
b ) CD filenames are converted into Upper case - meaning that RedHat
cannot find the files - or even the RedHat directory, as it's called
REDHAT!

Surely there is an easy way around this ?

Cheers, Rob (reb197@soton.ac.uk)

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On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Robert Bergs wrote 

> Thanks to all who replied to my partion problem.
> I now have another!
> Fed up with not being able to mount ADFS, I thought I could install direct
> from CD :)
> I FTP'd everything, put it in a directory called RedHat, and burnt it into
> a CD. Problems :-
>
> a ) ISO 9660 only supports 8.3 filenames - so all filenames get truncated.
> b ) CD filenames are converted into Upper case - meaning that RedHat
>     cannot find the files - or even the RedHat directory, as it's called
>     REDHAT!
>
> Surely there is an easy way around this ?
>
> Cheers, Rob (reb197@soton.ac.uk)

I have the same problem, so what is the solution?

Thank you Uli (schwanecke@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de)
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On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Robert Bergs wrote:

> b ) CD filenames are converted into Upper case - meaning that RedHat
> cannot find the files - or even the RedHat directory, as it's called
> REDHAT!

I've seen a RedHat CD and AFAICR there is a file on the CDROM which 
contains mappings of upper-case filenames to 'real' filenames.  I'll 
check this with a few friends - they'll probably know - and I'll get back 
to you.

P.S. "Linux CDs" has no apostrophe.

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On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Ulrich Schwanecke wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Robert Bergs wrote 
> 
> > Thanks to all who replied to my partion problem.
> > I now have another!
> > Fed up with not being able to mount ADFS, I thought I could install direct
> > from CD :)
> > I FTP'd everything, put it in a directory called RedHat, and burnt it into
> > a CD. Problems :-
> >
> > a ) ISO 9660 only supports 8.3 filenames - so all filenames get truncated.
> > b ) CD filenames are converted into Upper case - meaning that RedHat
> >     cannot find the files - or even the RedHat directory, as it's called
> >     REDHAT!
> >
> > Surely there is an easy way around this ?
> >
> > Cheers, Rob (reb197@soton.ac.uk)
> 
> I have the same problem, so what is the solution?
> 
> Thank you Uli (schwanecke@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de)
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I used mkisofs under unix to create an iso9660 image with RockRidge
extensions, this gives two sets of file names on the CD. The normal Dosy
8+3 which is read under dos/win/RiscOs and the RockRidge, full names, that
should be read when used under linux/unix.

The command line options I use are 

mkisofs -a -d -D -L -o cdimage.iso -r -v <directory to use for cd>

Other options may help such as 
-l - allow 32 character file names rather than 8+3 (still only upper case)
-P , -p -A, -V - specify disk names.

cheers.

steve..

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Hi

When I try to patch my kernel sources I have downloaded with the arm patches
from the ftp site, although it creates all the right directory structures in
linux/arch/arm, all the files are there but are empty.  It brings up some
strange messages when applying the patch - how can I log these to a file for
investigation? 

Might the reason for all this be that my kernel sources are on my scsi disc
and seeing as I have no scsi support in my kernel (yet) I have to mount it
on /mnt so making the source in /mnt/usr/src?  / being the initial root and
boot discs from the ftp site.  Is there anyway of changing the / to being
/dev/sda3 once I've booted or editing the boot disk to load up
acornscsi_mod.o and mount /dev/sda3 on /?

Anyway - that's what's going wrong.  

Any help appreciated

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OK,

I've now managed to format my hda3 partition as ext2 (see the thread
mknod and mke2fs).

This involved completely blanking the HD to remove an old ICS partition
table which was confising the Linux kernel.


So I copied the RPMs onto the partition, copied base and instimage.

Ran the installer.  When asked what I wanted to install, I left all
unchecked (i.e. a bare minimum install).  The installer went through its
install bit (with the bars), asked me which keyboard, mouse I was using
etc.

Got to the message "Could not find kernel" so I followed the suggestion
given somewhere else to do a /mnt/bin/sync.

Right.  So I should now have linux installed.  Now, when I next startup
linux, with
!Linux -bootkernel rpc
I still get asked to insert the Linux root disc.

Surely it should now be able to boot from the hda3?  Do I need to pass
a command line argument to the bootloader or something??

Mike.

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>linux/arch/arm, all the files are there but are empty.  It brings up some
>strange messages when applying the patch - how can I log these to a file for
>investigation? 

`patch ... 2>&1 | tee logfile' may do what you want.

>and seeing as I have no scsi support in my kernel (yet) I have to mount it
>on /mnt so making the source in /mnt/usr/src?  / being the initial root and

That oughtn't to make any difference.  Just do `cd /mnt/usr/src' and then 
apply the patch.

>boot discs from the ftp site.  Is there anyway of changing the / to being
>/dev/sda3 once I've booted or editing the boot disk to load up
>acornscsi_mod.o and mount /dev/sda3 on /?

You could do this sort of thing with initrd.  But since that would involve 
recompiling the kernel, you might as well put support for the correct scsi 
card in there.

p.


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Hi,
  On ftp.compsoc.man.ac.uk /pub/ARMLinux/2.0.33 are
some kernels for the old machines built from the 2.0.33 sources.
If your having trouble getting Ether's or IDE interfaces going
then it should be worth a go getting these - I also reckon they
are faster.

An updated web page is under my home page of

http://www.treblig.demon.co.uk

Dave

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Hi.

I've uploaded onto the ARM Linux FTP site a new development Acorn RiscOS
Partition manager for testing.

It is not a completely working version, however it should be able to
read the partitioning information for the following schemes:

1) FileCore Linux
2) ICS IDEFS partitions
3) PowerTec partitions

The partition manager should allow you to add, edit and delete
partitions (however, I am aware of the bug that causes an abort() if
you delete the last partition displayed).  It will not write the
partition information back to disk (or at least I don't think it will -
the code is in theory missing at the moment).

On startup, the partition manager will open an information window -
please read these instructions so that you know what to do when you find
those bugs...

I should have a working version of the new Partition Manager in a couple
of weeks if all goes well.

Thanks in advance to those pre-alpha testers ;)
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PS.  It will appear slow - it's logging a lot of information into PipeFS.
Please don't send me all of these log files when it goes wrong, just the
one that indicates that it failed - I know what happens when it works ;)

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Hi.

I have released onto the ftp site a pre-patch for 2.1.88.  Should anyone
want a look-see, they can find it at:

ftp.arm.uk.linux.org:/pub/armlinux/kernel-sources/v2.1/pre-patch-2.1.88-1.gz

NOTE!  This patch contains various patches and ideas, as well as some
work towards the integration of the ARM port into Linus' source tree -
beware if you use this to generate your own patches that *anything* can
change!
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>I have released onto the ftp site a pre-patch for 2.1.88.  Should anyone

Incidentally, I'm glad to see that we have drivers/acorn now, rather than arch/
arm/drivers/...

p.


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> >I have released onto the ftp site a pre-patch for 2.1.88.  Should anyone
> 
> Incidentally, I'm glad to see that we have drivers/acorn now, rather than 
> arch/arm/drivers/...

Yep. There is still stuff in the drivers/acorn dir that wants merging with
other drivers in the end, but it is relatively clean.

Alan

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On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Alan Cox wrote:

> > >I have released onto the ftp site a pre-patch for 2.1.88.  Should anyone
> > 
> > Incidentally, I'm glad to see that we have drivers/acorn now, rather than 
> > arch/arm/drivers/...
> 
> Yep. There is still stuff in the drivers/acorn dir that wants merging with
> other drivers in the end, but it is relatively clean.
> 
Yes, that's a definate improvement. One thing tho - AFAICR, the other
directories are named after the bus type, not the machine type - for
example, pci and sbus instead of PC and sparc - so shouldn't it be
drivers/podule? ;)

(/me nitpicks on a trivial point. ;) )

Anyhow, I'd been hearing about a few legal issues on RISC OS DOOM -
anybody know if this applies to the ARM generally or just to RISC OS?

--
James Craig <jcraig@mad.scientist.com>


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At 15:30 22/02/98 +0000, you wrote:
>>linux/arch/arm, all the files are there but are empty.  It brings up some
>>strange messages when applying the patch - how can I log these to a file for
>>investigation? 
>
>`patch ... 2>&1 | tee logfile' may do what you want.

Yes, that helped.  The errors I get are most of the hunks failing to begin
with.  Some of the later ones succeed, but nevertheless yield empty files.
It also says 'unexpected end of file' at the end.  I've downloaded the patch
about 5 times so I know it's intact.  The .rej files it says it will create
when the hunks fail are empty too, so that doesn't help! Any ideas?

If anyone has compiled a RPC600 kernel with acorn scsi support compiled in,
can I borrow it just to get my system going? Once I have a non-floppy root
my efforts at compiling kernels may be more fruitful.

Thanks!

Garan Jenkin
Garan

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> Yes, that's a definate improvement. One thing tho - AFAICR, the other
> directories are named after the bus type, not the machine type - for
> example, pci and sbus instead of PC and sparc - so shouldn't it be
> drivers/podule? ;)

I actually talked to Russell about that but it appears even acorn dropped
the podule name. If its drivers/acorn everyone knows what it is. Blame me if
you wanted it as podule

> Anyhow, I'd been hearing about a few legal issues on RISC OS DOOM -
> anybody know if this applies to the ARM generally or just to RISC OS?

There aren't any real legal issues Im aware of so long as people are not
distributing the non-free WAD files (ie parts 2/3, doomII etc) and are not
charging in any way for it. The license is on ftp.idsoftware.com for the
curious.

Alan
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>I actually talked to Russell about that but it appears even acorn dropped
>the podule name. If its drivers/acorn everyone knows what it is. Blame me if

That's right - they didn't think it fitted in with their new serious image.

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James Craig writes:
> Yes, that's a definate improvement. One thing tho - AFAICR, the other
> directories are named after the bus type, not the machine type - for
> example, pci and sbus instead of PC and sparc - so shouldn't it be
> drivers/podule? ;)

However, we couldn't exactly put in a directory drivers/expansion-cards since
that is too general.

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On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Russ King wrote:

> James Craig writes:
> > Yes, that's a definate improvement. One thing tho - AFAICR, the other
> > directories are named after the bus type, not the machine type - for
> > example, pci and sbus instead of PC and sparc - so shouldn't it be
> > drivers/podule? ;)
> 
> However, we couldn't exactly put in a directory drivers/expansion-cards since
> that is too general.
OK, how about drivers/debi? :)
(Not a serious suggestion, that name only applies to the DMA capable
stufff, I think. On the other hand, what did acorn call the original
podule bus internally?)
 

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>stufff, I think. On the other hand, what did acorn call the original
>podule bus internally?)

"The podule bus" I think.  Not a very imaginative lot.

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On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Philip Blundell wrote:

> >stufff, I think. On the other hand, what did acorn call the original
> >podule bus internally?)
> 
> "The podule bus" I think.  Not a very imaginative lot.
That's clearly not true, look at the internal names for all of acorn's
machines and the chips and stuff - and remember we had FRED, JIM, and
SHELIA in the days of the beeb. There's DEBI for the new podule bus, and
we've got all the other million and one dodgy abbreviations Acorn use. :)
Bet the podule bus has at least one other name. :)
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On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, micm wrote:

> Right.  So I should now have linux installed.  Now, when I next startup
> linux, with
> !Linux -bootkernel rpc
> I still get asked to insert the Linux root disc.
> 
> Surely it should now be able to boot from the hda3?  Do I need to pass
> a command line argument to the bootloader or something??

AFAIK, there is no parameter you can pass to the bootloader which tell it 
where to find the partition.  The only way I know which works on my 
system is, when the 'Enter extra arguments:' comes up, type:
root=/dev/hda3

This will then cause the kernel to boot from whatever partition you 
happend to mention (hda3 in this case).

Since this started to get rather annoying, I hacked my personal copy of 
the bootloader so instead of calling an OS_ReadS (or similar) it branches 
to a routine which copies 'root=/dev/hda3' into the buffer, and then goes 
on from there.  This is cludgy, hacky and horrible, but it works for me.

I think there's some other way of doing it using 'loadmap' and the 
/boot/wotsit file, but I never got round to fiddling with that (esp since 
loadmap doesn't seem to work on my system).

Hope this helps,
Phil

P.S. If you want more information on how loadmap works, 'man loadmap' 
should tell you what you need to know if you have the loadmap RPM installed.


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On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Phil Norman wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, micm wrote:
> 
> > Right.  So I should now have linux installed.  Now, when I next startup
> > linux, with
> > !Linux -bootkernel rpc
> > I still get asked to insert the Linux root disc.
> > 
> > Surely it should now be able to boot from the hda3?  Do I need to pass
> > a command line argument to the bootloader or something??
> 
> AFAIK, there is no parameter you can pass to the bootloader which tell it 
> where to find the partition.  The only way I know which works on my 
> system is, when the 'Enter extra arguments:' comes up, type:
> root=/dev/hda3
> 
> This will then cause the kernel to boot from whatever partition you 
> happend to mention (hda3 in this case).
> 
> Since this started to get rather annoying, I hacked my personal copy of 
> the bootloader so instead of calling an OS_ReadS (or similar) it branches 
> to a routine which copies 'root=/dev/hda3' into the buffer, and then goes 
> on from there.  This is cludgy, hacky and horrible, but it works for me.
> 
> I think there's some other way of doing it using 'loadmap' and the 
> /boot/wotsit file, but I never got round to fiddling with that (esp since 
> loadmap doesn't seem to work on my system).

On my system, if you create a config file /etc/boot.conf (or edit if it's
there) - it should have entries along the lines of :


# Linux 2.0.30
kernel {
  name = "Linux 2.0.30";
  path = "/vmlinux";
  root = "/dev/hda3";
  ramdisk = 0;
  flags = readonly;
};

You then need to run the followind (as root, obviously) :

loadmap -R /dev/hda3 -v -C /etc/boot.conf

This should set up the boot map files such that when you next boot into
Linux you're given the menu of kernels available (using the file above
will result in only one entry called "Linux 2.0.30"). I think that's all
you need to do - this also then makes the !Linux loader work, which is
nice :-).

Hope this helps,

Tom.

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G a r a n writes:
> >>linux/arch/arm, all the files are there but are empty.  It brings up some
> >>strange messages when applying the patch - how can I log these to a file for
> >>investigation? 
> >
> >`patch ... 2>&1 | tee logfile' may do what you want.
> 
> Yes, that helped.  The errors I get are most of the hunks failing to begin
> with.  Some of the later ones succeed, but nevertheless yield empty files.
> It also says 'unexpected end of file' at the end.  I've downloaded the patch
> about 5 times so I know it's intact.  The .rej files it says it will create
> when the hunks fail are empty too, so that doesn't help! Any ideas?

What version of the kernel sources are you trying to patch?

Which patch file are you trying to apply?

What is the *exact* command line you are using to patch the sources?

In what directory are you running this command?
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> What version of the kernel sources are you trying to patch?
> 
2.0.31
> Which patch file are you trying to apply?
I've tried every single one in the patch directory (each time on a clean
source tree) from 2.0.31pre9 up.
> 
> What is the *exact* command line you are using to patch the sources?
> 
First I did :
cd linux && zcat ../patchxx.gz | patch -p1
I tried variations on this too.

> In what directory are you running this command?
/mnt/usr/src/linux (/dev/sda3 mounted on /mnt)

Bye Bye!

Garan

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Webmaster writes:
> > What version of the kernel sources are you trying to patch?
> 2.0.31

> > Which patch file are you trying to apply?
> I've tried every single one in the patch directory (each time on a clean
> source tree) from 2.0.31pre9 up.

The 2.0.31pre9 patch is for the 2.0.31 prerelease 9 source code, *not*
the 2.0.31 source code.

The correct patch file is patch-arm-2.0.31-1997.11.15.gz, which is referenced
by the patch-arm-2.0.31.gz link.

If this patch file does not work, check how much free space you have on your
drive - you must have sufficient for at least twice the uncompressed patch
size (in this case, probably need at least 6MB free).
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I read

> I FTP'd everything, put it in a directory called RedHat, and burnt it into
> a CD. Problems :-

>  a ) ISO 9660 only supports 8.3 filenames - so all filenames get truncated.
>  b ) CD filenames are converted into Upper case - meaning that RedHat
>  cannot find the files - or even the RedHat directory, as it's called
>  REDHAT!

> Surely there is an easy way around this ?

> Cheers, Rob (reb197@soton.ac.uk)

But I don't know what is the solution? So what's to do?

Uli Schwanecke (schwanecke@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de)

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Ulrich Schwanecke writes:
> > I FTP'd everything, put it in a directory called RedHat, and burnt it into
> > a CD. Problems :-
> 
> >  a ) ISO 9660 only supports 8.3 filenames - so all filenames get truncated.
> >  b ) CD filenames are converted into Upper case - meaning that RedHat
> >  cannot find the files - or even the RedHat directory, as it's called
> >  REDHAT!
> 
> > Surely there is an easy way around this ?

Yes - it's called Rock-Ridge, which RiscOS does not support. ;(
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On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Phil Norman wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Robert Bergs wrote:
> 
> > b ) CD filenames are converted into Upper case - meaning that RedHat
> > cannot find the files - or even the RedHat directory, as it's called
> > REDHAT!
> 
> I've seen a RedHat CD and AFAICR there is a file on the CDROM which 
> contains mappings of upper-case filenames to 'real' filenames.  I'll 
> check this with a few friends - they'll probably know - and I'll get back 
> to you.
> 
> 
----I've just had an idea - Is it possible to ZIP up all installation
files into a single file, save that onto a CD using an 8.3 filename, then
unzip it onto the hard drive (using HDA3), then tell RedHat to install
from there?

I suspect there would be a problem mounting the CD - I tried one as a test
and Linux complained that it could not mount a read-only file system. The
-r flag on mount didn't seem to be available.

If anyone has successfully done the install from CD, then please let me
know how you did it!

Cheers - Rob.
reb197@soton.ac.uk

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