From owner-arm-linux@tardis.ed.ac.uk Mon Mar 17 15:58:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from tardis.ed.ac.uk (majordom@brigadier.tardis.ed.ac.uk [193.62.81.14]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.2/8.8.0) with ESMTP id PAA28941 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:58:07 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost) by tardis.ed.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5/TardisMailhub) id PAA08376; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:57:59 GMT Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:57:59 GMT Message-Id: <199703171557.PAA08376@tardis.ed.ac.uk> X-Authentication-Warning: brigadier.tardis.ed.ac.uk: majordom set sender to owner-arm-linux@tardis.ed.ac.uk using -f To: willy@odie.barnet.ac.uk From: Majordomo@tardis.ed.ac.uk Subject: Welcome to arm-linux Reply-To: Majordomo@tardis.ed.ac.uk Status: RO -- Welcome to the arm-linux mailing list! If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to "Majordomo@tardis.ed.ac.uk" with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe arm-linux Matthew Wilcox Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: [Last updated on: Wed Oct 11 15:47:40 1995] This mailing list is for discussing Russell King's port of Linux to the ARM processor. Please try to keep this list fairly low-volume by only discussing ARM Linux related problems - there are a large number of newsgroups for general Linux queries. To post to the list send mail to arm-linux@tardis.ed.ac.uk More information on the ARM Linux port can be obtained from http://whirligig.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~rmk92/armlinux.html From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Dec 1 10:32:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA16034 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 10:32:21 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:11557 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <16088-16327>; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 12:31:20 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970910-2955>; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 05:27:09 -0500 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:8475 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970909-2954>; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 05:26:49 -0500 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (KAA04926); Mon, 1 Dec 1997 10:26:48 GMT Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 10:26:48 +0000 (GMT) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: Garan Jenkin MSS cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: getting files to my acorn In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO On Sun, 30 Nov 1997, Garan Jenkin MSS wrote: > > Phil, > > Won't I have problems in that I will have no ADFS partition on the SCSI > disc with the rpms on? Aparrently that is a problem. Why do the rpms > need such long names? that makes things harder. Can I use ext2fs? Which OS do you want to get the RPM files onto? RiscOS or linux? If you want to install the RPMs from an ext2 partition, you will need to make the following tree on the disc: RedHat/RPMS/ RedHat/instimage base instimage Note: base and instimage can be found on the armlinux ftp site. If you'd rather download them as one big archive, download the 'guide to installing armlinux from the clan cd' from my web site (URL in the sig). Most of that archive is the instimage and base. I don't know why the installer wants instimage in both root and RedHat/, but it doesn't work without it being present in both places. There are ext2fs readers and writers on very many systems, including NT, DOS and probably Lose95 which you could use to create the structure. RPM files don't actually need to have those ultra-descriptive names, since all the information on what they are is contained within the files; you could get away with naming the RPMs with just numbers if you wish. The purpose of the names, AFAIK, is just so that you can see at a glance what the current version number is when the RPM is on the ftp site. -- Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter Uni. Programs available for download from my web page. email: p.c.f.norman@ex.ac.uk web: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Dec 1 12:26:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA17081 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 12:26:34 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:4617 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <15491-16327>; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:25:31 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970934-2954>; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 07:21:16 -0500 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:1439 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970930-2955>; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 07:20:49 -0500 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id MAA17072; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 12:21:28 GMT From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199712011221.MAA17072@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: gcc To: Philip.Blundell@pobox.com (Philip Blundell) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 12:21:26 +0000 (GMT) Cc: philip@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Nov 30, 97 10:57:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Right, compiled it on my arm-linuxout machine. First off, the configure script doesn't recognise arm610-unkown-linux-gnuaout. You must run configure --host=arm-linuxout. Then the configuration goes smoothly. The stage1 build happens without (much) trouble. The warnings I get are: cexp.y: 673: left shift count >= width of type 680: (same) enquire.c: 1401: comparison always 0 due to restricted range of data type During the stage 2 build, it chokes when trying to build cccp.o with undefined references to _fxstat and _xstat (from stat.h) __strtol_internal (stdlib.h) From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Dec 1 12:39:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA17110 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 12:39:46 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:9229 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <15367-16327>; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:33:32 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970937-2955>; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 07:29:20 -0500 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:1453 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970934-2955>; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 07:28:56 -0500 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id MAA17089 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 12:31:59 GMT From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199712011231.MAA17089@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: mailing list archives To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 12:31:58 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO I got sick of how long it took to open my armlinux mail archive, so I've now split it by month. Now accessible as ftp.barnet.ac.uk:/pub/Acorn/armlinux/armlinux-YYMM. I hope people find it useful. From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Dec 1 10:32:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA16034 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 10:32:21 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:11557 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <16088-16327>; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 12:31:20 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970910-2955>; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 05:27:09 -0500 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]:8475 "EHLO exeter.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970909-2954>; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 05:26:49 -0500 Received: from hebe [144.173.6.23] by hermes via SMTP (KAA04926); Mon, 1 Dec 1997 10:26:48 GMT Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 10:26:48 +0000 (GMT) From: Phil Norman X-Sender: py95pcfn@hebe To: Garan Jenkin MSS cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: getting files to my acorn In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO On Sun, 30 Nov 1997, Garan Jenkin MSS wrote: > > Phil, > > Won't I have problems in that I will have no ADFS partition on the SCSI > disc with the rpms on? Aparrently that is a problem. Why do the rpms > need such long names? that makes things harder. Can I use ext2fs? Which OS do you want to get the RPM files onto? RiscOS or linux? If you want to install the RPMs from an ext2 partition, you will need to make the following tree on the disc: RedHat/RPMS/ RedHat/instimage base instimage Note: base and instimage can be found on the armlinux ftp site. If you'd rather download them as one big archive, download the 'guide to installing armlinux from the clan cd' from my web site (URL in the sig). Most of that archive is the instimage and base. I don't know why the installer wants instimage in both root and RedHat/, but it doesn't work without it being present in both places. There are ext2fs readers and writers on very many systems, including NT, DOS and probably Lose95 which you could use to create the structure. RPM files don't actually need to have those ultra-descriptive names, since all the information on what they are is contained within the files; you could get away with naming the RPMs with just numbers if you wish. The purpose of the names, AFAIK, is just so that you can see at a glance what the current version number is when the RPM is on the ftp site. -- Phil Norman, mailing from Exeter Uni. Programs available for download from my web page. email: p.c.f.norman@ex.ac.uk web: http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Dec 1 12:26:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA17081 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 12:26:34 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:4617 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <15491-16327>; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:25:31 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970934-2954>; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 07:21:16 -0500 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:1439 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970930-2955>; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 07:20:49 -0500 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id MAA17072; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 12:21:28 GMT From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199712011221.MAA17072@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: gcc To: Philip.Blundell@pobox.com (Philip Blundell) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 12:21:26 +0000 (GMT) Cc: philip@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Nov 30, 97 10:57:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Right, compiled it on my arm-linuxout machine. First off, the configure script doesn't recognise arm610-unkown-linux-gnuaout. You must run configure --host=arm-linuxout. Then the configuration goes smoothly. The stage1 build happens without (much) trouble. The warnings I get are: cexp.y: 673: left shift count >= width of type 680: (same) enquire.c: 1401: comparison always 0 due to restricted range of data type During the stage 2 build, it chokes when trying to build cccp.o with undefined references to _fxstat and _xstat (from stat.h) __strtol_internal (stdlib.h) From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Dec 1 12:39:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA17110 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 12:39:46 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:9229 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <15367-16327>; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:33:32 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970937-2955>; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 07:29:20 -0500 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:1453 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970934-2955>; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 07:28:56 -0500 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id MAA17089 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 12:31:59 GMT From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199712011231.MAA17089@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: mailing list archives To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 12:31:58 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO I got sick of how long it took to open my armlinux mail archive, so I've now split it by month. Now accessible as ftp.barnet.ac.uk:/pub/Acorn/armlinux/armlinux-YYMM. I hope people find it useful. From pb@nexus.co.uk Mon Dec 1 14:01:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: from globe (nexusel.demon.co.uk [158.152.30.195]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id OAA17670 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:01:23 GMT Received: from spring.nexus.co.uk [192.0.0.3] (exim) by globe with smtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0xcWPG-0002HR-00; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:01:02 +0000 Received: from spring.nexus.co.uk [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.73 #2) id 0xcWOh-00053i-00; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:00:27 +0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Matthew Wilcox Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: gcc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 14:00:27 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Status: RO >/usr/local/arm-linuxaout/include/asm. This isn't explicitly stated - >and I'm not sure that it's really necessary since the SWI numbers are >unlikely to change - indeed, they can't without breaking every binary, >and library, on the system. Actually, that's not quite true. It's possible to replace the current syscalls with new ones and retain the old numbers as compatibility wrappers. In that case we'd want newly-compiled code to use the shiny new syscalls rather than the old ones. Now, if you _really_ want to live life on the edge, get the latest glibc 2.1 snapshot from ftp.kernel.org:/pub/linux/libs/glibc, compile that for arm-linuxaout with your new gcc, and see if you can actually build some working executables with it. Again, I'd like to know how you get on if anybody tries this. p. From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Dec 1 15:40:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA18286 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:40:05 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:317 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <4812-16327>; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 17:37:08 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970901-2954>; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 10:28:06 -0500 Received: from ernst.netinsight.se ([195.17.50.130]:3954 "HELO ernst.netinsight.se" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971103-2955>; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 10:25:53 -0500 Received: from wally (unverified [195.17.50.147]) by ernst.netinsight.se (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Mon, 01 Dec 1997 16:24:06 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971201162858.009529c0@ernst> X-Sender: obg@ernst X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 16:28:58 +0100 To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin , dmf20@hermes.cam.ac.uk (David) From: Olof Backing Subject: Re: VRAM needed? Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199711292257.WAA02519@raistlin.armlinux.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO At 22:57 1997-11-29 +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: >David writes: >> failed with the message "VRAM needed" (or similar). Is VRAM an absolute >> must, or can I get around it somehow? (Bearing in mind that VRAM is not an >> option on my machine...) > >Unfortunately, the whole of the console drivers and memory management systems >in Linux rely on at least 1MB VRAM. This may change if there's enough demand >for it. But how is this handles on the EBSA (no VRAM at all)? /Olof Olof Backing Net Insight AB Phone: +46-8 449 22 36 Ingenjörsvägen 3, 2tr Fax: +46-8 449 22 40 S-117 43 Stockholm mailto:olof.backing@netinsight.se Sweden http://www.netinsight.se From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Dec 1 18:28:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA19432 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 18:27:56 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:21364 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <16319-16327>; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 20:26:28 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971017-2954>; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 13:22:32 -0500 Received: from rocky.linklaters.com ([194.129.194.2]:55765 "HELO rocky.linklaters.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970967-2954>; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 13:22:21 -0500 Received: by rocky.linklaters.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA11819; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 18:26:23 GMT Received: from colmail(194.203.226.2) by rocky via smap (V2.0beta) id xma011812; Mon, 1 Dec 97 18:26:17 GMT Received: from manning (manning [194.203.226.3]) by colmail (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA03160; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 18:26:42 GMT Message-Id: <199712011826.SAA03160@colmail> Received: by manning (NX5.67f2/NX3.0X) id AA04863; Mon, 1 Dec 97 18:26:30 GMT From: Daniel Shimmin Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 18:26:19 +0000 To: Dave Gilbert Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ????strongArm X-Pge: 0,ipswich880999532.733.4,0,0,manning880969379.901.1150 Received: by NeXT.Mailer (MindShare 3.61) X-Mailer: MindShare 3.61 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO > But things are not necessarily that bleak for StrongARM. > For a start my understanding is that if Intel packed up > StrongARM it would be possible (due to the way they own bits > of the rights etc and the fact that there are other people with > appropriate IC processes) for ARM to have StrongARM produced. It seems so. My understanding of the situation is that the SA-1 technology (i.e. the core itself, as opposed to any processors based around it) is owned by ARM, and therefore they could quite happily wander off with another semiconductor partner and make another processor based around it, if the SA-110 and SA-1100 were not to be developed as people might like. After all, Digital/Intel aren't the only ARM partners who have 0.35 micron production facilities (and getting smaller). Of course, if ARM continue to be happy with the way the various SA derivatives develop, there would be no reason for them to do that... I've no idea what the present position is wrt the processors currently based around the SA-1 core (these are jointly owned by ARM). dgs (Personal opinions only). From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Dec 2 13:57:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA28596 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 13:57:14 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:12886 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <4710-16327>; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 15:48:37 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971217-2954>; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 08:44:34 -0500 Received: from server21.digital.fr ([193.56.15.21]:3164 "EHLO server21.digital.fr" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971222-2955>; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 08:44:04 -0500 Received: from mail.vbo.dec.com (mail.vbo.dec.com [16.36.208.34]) by server21.digital.fr (8.7.5/8.7) with ESMTP id OAA14743; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 14:40:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from vbormc.vbo.dec.com (vbormc.vbo.dec.com [16.36.208.94]) by mail.vbo.dec.com (8.8.6/8.7) with ESMTP id OAA12153; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 14:40:34 +0100 (MET) Received: from linux.reo.dec.com (linux.reo.dec.com [16.36.0.79]) by vbormc.vbo.dec.com (8.7.3/8.7) with ESMTP id PAA05000; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 15:29:33 +0100 Received: (from rusling@localhost) by linux.reo.dec.com (8.8.5/8.7.1) id NAA29318; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 13:37:51 GMT Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199711272200.WAA00582@raistlin.armlinux.org> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 13:35:06 -0000 (GMT) From: "Ka'Plaagh" To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Subject: Re: Other troubles compiling the kernel Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Russell (and linux-armers) I've got a natty piece of software which talks enough angel (as in ARM's debug target) protocol down a serial wire to upload any old image into memory and run it. It builds/runs on both Intel and Alpha Linux. It is, of course, freely reusable and distributable. Is there any chance of including it on your web site as it is useful with any ARM based board/system running angel? Dave ---------------------------------------------------------------------- David A Rusling Principal Engineer European Semiconductor Applications Digital Equipment Co Ltd., Engineering PO Box 121, Imperial Way, Worton Grange Reading RG2 0TU Linux, Alpha, StrongArm, PCI Tel: UK-(0)1734-204380 Fax: UK-(0)1734-203133 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Dec 3 13:28:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA05024 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 13:28:35 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:4631 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <15543-16327>; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 15:16:06 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971485-2955>; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 08:10:30 -0500 Received: from [193.131.112.97] ([193.131.112.97]:35699 "HELO netherhall.cambs.sch.uk" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971497-2954>; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 08:07:21 -0500 Received: by netherhall.cambs.sch.uk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA02222; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 13:10:03 GMT Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 13:10:03 GMT From: tom@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk (Tom Palmer) Message-Id: <199712031310.NAA02222@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk> To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Problem with getting Linux running with an Ether3 (ANT) network card... X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hi, I am in the middle of trying to get my RiscPC at work running Arm-Linux. Everything on the RiscOS side of things is working. The problem is that I cannot get the kernel to load properly. Originally I had an I-Cubed card in there and the kernel would identify it correctly and (I assume) ignore it. It would then lock up. I changed this card for an ANT Ether3 card and now when trying out the kernel I get the following message filling up the whole screen : "Wild interrupt from backplane?" The specs of the RiscPC are as follows: Arm 710, 20MB memory, Sony CD Drive (x4 speed), 850MB hard disc. 1MB VRAM, 486 PC Card, and an ANT Ether3 card. A *podules tells me that in pod 0 I have an ANT Ethernet AUN discless card. If anybody has any ideas they would be gratefully received. (Am I running the wrong kernel? Its the one pointed to from the website. Should I change the network card for a different type?) Thanks in advance, Tom Palmer, Webmaster, The Netherhall School, Cambridge, United Kingdom From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Dec 3 14:06:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA05254 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 14:06:48 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:8271 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <15930-16327>; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:01:37 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971496-2955>; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 08:57:07 -0500 Received: from monarch.ja.net ([128.86.16.37]:60986 "EHLO monarch.ja.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971485-2955>; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 08:56:56 -0500 Received: from sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by monarch.ja.net with SPAM SMTP (PP); Wed, 3 Dec 1997 13:59:52 +0000 Received: from bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk by sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk with NRS SMTP (PP); Wed, 3 Dec 1997 13:59:47 +0000 Received: from diana.ecs.soton.ac.uk.ecs.soton.ac.uk by bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk; Wed, 3 Dec 97 13:57:18 GMT From: Russ King Message-Id: <25870.9712031358@diana.ecs.soton.ac.uk.ecs.soton.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Problem with getting Linux running with an Ether3 (ANT) network card... To: tom@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk (Tom Palmer) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 13:58:54 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux@arm.uk.linux.org, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199712031310.NAA02222@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk> from "Tom Palmer" at Dec 3, 97 01:10:03 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-Envid: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<25870.9712031358@diana.ecs.soto] Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Tom Palmer writes: > I am in the middle of trying to get my RiscPC at work running Arm-Linux. > Everything on the RiscOS side of things is working. > > The problem is that I cannot get the kernel to load properly. > Originally I had an I-Cubed card in there and the kernel would identify > it correctly and (I assume) ignore it. It would then lock up. Could you send me the name of the card, the version (which is on the sticker on the card), and the first few kernel messages relating to the expansion cards? Also, what is the last message that you see? > I changed this card for an ANT Ether3 card and now when trying out the > kernel I get the following message filling up the whole screen : > "Wild interrupt from backplane?" This would be caused by a Podule not shutting down correctly when told to, and there isn't an easy fix for Linux - except to complain to the manufacturer that they don't implement the expansion card specs properly! From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Dec 3 14:52:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA05667 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 14:52:18 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:51068 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <15551-16327>; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:49:21 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971511-2954>; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:26:42 -0500 Received: from [193.131.112.97] ([193.131.112.97]:35849 "HELO netherhall.cambs.sch.uk" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971514-2954>; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:12:52 -0500 Received: by netherhall.cambs.sch.uk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA02303; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 14:15:18 GMT Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 14:15:18 GMT From: tom@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk (Tom Palmer) Message-Id: <199712031415.OAA02303@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk> To: rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk Subject: Re: Problem with getting Linux running with an Ether3 (ANT) network card... Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hi, > > Could you send me the name of the card, the version (which is on the > sticker on the card), and the first few kernel messages relating to the > expansion cards? Also, what is the last message that you see? > The card name is an ANT Ltd. 10Base2 Card. It looks to be a rebadged AtomWide card. The card contains an ANT AUN diskless Boot chip whihc is marked as A5000 V1.42. The serial number is AT2CB2 and the card is marked as being an AtomWide ethernet card. The only kernel messages that I see (I think, I can't really see it) "Now booting kernel". Or something similar Hope this helps. Tom Palmer, Webmaster, The Netherhall School, Cambridge, United Kingdom From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Dec 3 15:34:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA05913 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 15:34:56 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:49983 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <4370-16327>; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 17:32:32 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971527-2955>; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 10:11:02 -0500 Received: from monarch.ja.net ([128.86.16.37]:62203 "EHLO monarch.ja.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971615-2954>; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 10:01:22 -0500 Received: from sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by monarch.ja.net with SPAM SMTP (PP); Wed, 3 Dec 1997 15:05:07 +0000 Received: from bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk by sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk with NRS SMTP (PP); Wed, 3 Dec 1997 15:03:39 +0000 Received: from diana.ecs.soton.ac.uk.ecs.soton.ac.uk by bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk; Wed, 3 Dec 97 15:01:05 GMT From: Russ King Message-Id: <29076.9712031502@diana.ecs.soton.ac.uk.ecs.soton.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Problem with getting Linux running with an Ether3 (ANT) network card... To: tom@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk (Tom Palmer) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 15:02:27 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, linux@arm.uk.linux.org In-Reply-To: <199712031415.OAA02303@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk> from "Tom Palmer" at Dec 3, 97 02:15:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-Envid: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<29076.9712031502@diana.ecs.soto] Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Tom Palmer writes: > The card name is an ANT Ltd. 10Base2 Card. It looks to be a rebadged > AtomWide card. The card contains an ANT AUN diskless Boot chip whihc is > marked as A5000 V1.42. I was meaning the EtherH... > "Now booting kernel". Or something similar Sounds like a expansion card loader problem to me... The short solution is to backlist it, but I'll need the product ID and the manufacturer ID. You should be able to get this info using the Podule SWIs - consult the PRMs... From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Dec 3 17:05:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA06526 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 17:05:25 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:13333 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1479-16327>; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 18:54:58 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971519-2955>; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 11:48:38 -0500 Received: from [193.131.112.97] ([193.131.112.97]:36287 "HELO netherhall.cambs.sch.uk" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971559-2955>; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 11:30:26 -0500 Received: by netherhall.cambs.sch.uk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA02421; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:33:11 GMT Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:33:11 GMT From: tom@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk (Tom Palmer) Message-Id: <199712031633.QAA02421@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk> To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Problem with getting Linux running with an Ether3 (ANT) network card... X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hi, I think that I might have found the problem to my earlier post. I had !OmniClient running on startup. Whilst trying various network cards I tried to boot up the machine without the !Boot being run (therefore no !OmniClient). I then tried the kernel and found that it worked absolutely fine with the original network card. No stupid messages about the wild interupt from the backplane or anything like that. So I have now taken !Omniclient out of the bootup sequence and I will try install Arm-Linux. Fingers crossed. Sorry about that folks... Tom Palmer, Webmaster, The Netherhall School, Cambridge, United Kingdom From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Dec 3 21:06:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA08193 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 21:06:29 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:20025 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <15700-16327>; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 22:11:58 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970914-2955>; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 14:49:09 -0500 Received: from fm3.facility.pipex.com ([194.131.104.13]:58922 "HELO fm3.facility.pipex.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971696-2954>; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 14:16:50 -0500 Received: from 193.130.251.60 [193.130.251.60] by fm3.facility.pipex.com with smtp (Exim 1.59 #22) id 0xdJRi-0004dG-00; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 18:22:51 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: pkent@argonet.co.uk (Paul Kent) Reply-To: pkent@argonet.co.uk To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Wed, 3 Dec 97 19:14:51 X-Mailer: VTi Internet Email reader 1.09 : aa Subject: Re: Installation problems from rootdisc+cd Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO pkent@argonet.co.uk wrote: > I am trying to install ArmLinux from the clan cd.my scsi drive wouldnt show the right ends of partitions using the old boot loader. I could get the kernel to boot from floppy, and go into install, with the video problems making the screen practically unreadable. I tried both an old and new version of SCSI manager, and the loader and kernel partitioners without success. > > > any suggestions where I'm going wrong?? > > running riscpc riscos3.7 strongarm 40 Mb Ram 1 Mb Video > > 2 adfs hard drives, 1 cumana scsi i/f + 1 drive (IBM KZ-P 146 154 Mb), 486sx25 2nd proc. > -- yes I'm still having problems.... I got no further with partioning the scsi drive sucessfully, and now I have a new problem. I downloaded the new bootloader from the website, after the acorn show. it is supposed to clean up the screen for 1Mb video users... on attempting to unpack the kernel, it starts on the left hand side of the screen. then seems to write across the full length of the screen, so that the left margin is in the middle of the screen, then wraps round. I don't know if it has fixed the problem with the lines being split horizontally on reaching the bottom of the screen, as it never gets there.. on trying to run the install after asking for the first disk change, it freezes up totally. its not the wrong disk, as it tries to unpack the blocks from the disk, and it worked on the old bootloader. the only way i have found to bring the machine to its senses after this is a reset. -- __ __ __ __ __ ___ _____________________________________________ |__||__)/ __/ \|\ ||_ | / | || \\__/\__/| \||__ | /...Internet access for all Acorn RISC machines ___________________________/ pkent@argonet.co.uk From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Dec 3 21:28:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA08403 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 21:27:59 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:13939 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1439-16327>; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 23:04:12 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971544-2954>; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 15:56:52 -0500 Received: from mail.tin.it ([194.243.154.39]:39407 "EHLO fes3.cs.tin.it" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971551-2955>; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 15:51:06 -0500 Received: from riscpc (root@Monza5-35.tin.it [195.31.128.98]) by fes3.cs.tin.it (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA02101 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 21:54:46 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 21:42:58 +0100 From: Sergio Monesi To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: EADFS and Linux Message-ID: <631adaf247%msergio@msergio.tin.it> Organization: None, AFAIK... X-Mailer: Messenger v1.02 for RISC OS X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.59f X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hello, I just bought a 3.2Gb disc, I'd like to partition into two RISC OS partitions and one Linux partition. I tried to use EADFS without much success, ie. PartMan produces strange results if I try to use it on any EADFS partition (both 6, a RISC OS disc, and 7, a DOS disc/empty partition) and corrupts EADFS if I try to use it on the ADFS partition (which is the first EADFS partition also). >From what I can tell, EADFS uses a RISCiX partition table stored at the beginning of the disc (the bootblock seems to point here), this is the dump: 00000000 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 70 12 00 : .............p.. 00000010 : 00 00 00 00 52 69 73 63 4F 73 3A 00 00 00 00 00 : ....RiscOs:..... 00000020 : 00 00 00 00 10 71 12 00 F0 BE 2B 00 00 00 00 00 : .....q..ð¾+..... 00000030 : 52 69 73 63 4F 73 3A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 : RiscOs:......... 00000040 : 40 33 3E 00 C0 04 22 00 00 00 00 00 44 4F 53 44 : @3>.À.".....DOSD 00000050 : 69 73 63 3A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 39 60 00 : isc:.........9`. 00000060 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 52 69 73 63 4F 73 3A 00 : ........RiscOs:. 00000070 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 39 60 00 00 00 00 00 : .........9`..... 00000080 : 00 00 00 00 52 69 73 63 4F 73 3A 00 00 00 00 00 : ....RiscOs:..... 00000090 : 00 00 00 00 00 39 60 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 : .....9`......... 000000A0 : 52 69 73 63 4F 73 3A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 : RiscOs:......... 000000B0 : 00 39 60 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 52 69 73 63 : .9`.........Risc 000000C0 : 4F 73 3A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 39 60 00 : Os:..........9`. 000000D0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 52 69 73 63 4F 73 3A 00 : ........RiscOs:. 000000E0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 : ................ 000000F0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 : ................ 00000100 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 : ................ 00000110 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 : ................ 00000120 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 : ................ 00000130 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 : ................ 00000140 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 : ................ 00000150 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 : ................ 00000160 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 : ................ 00000170 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 : ................ 00000180 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 : ................ 00000190 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 : ................ 000001A0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 : ................ 000001B0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 : ................ 000001C0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 : ................ 000001D0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 : ................ 000001E0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 : ................ 000001F0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2B : ...............+ 00000200 : : If I boot ARMLinux, it doesn't seem to recognise any partition on that drive so I immediately gave up. What should I do now? I bought this disc mainly for running ARMLinux but I don't want to waste a lot of space by formatting it in a single (2Gb) RISC OS partition. Russell, if you want to experiment with my disc just send me any code (even if dangerous!), I cannot do anything with the disc until I know if I can use it this way so I am really desperate. If ARMLinux could recognise a partition called 'Linux:' or something similar in the RISCiX partition, then I can simply get rid of that 'DOSDisc:'... Regards, Sergio -- Sergio Monesi... \ . . . \ Cracking RC5-64 with a StrongARM RiscPC mailto:msergio@tin.it \ . . . \ http://rc5.distributed.net/ http://bounce.to/sergio/ \ . . . \ Join the Wild Wereboar Team (#1308)! From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Dec 4 11:55:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA13666 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:55:08 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:41551 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <4115-16327>; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 13:54:05 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970889-2954>; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 06:49:11 -0500 Received: from [193.131.112.97] ([193.131.112.97]:37287 "HELO netherhall.cambs.sch.uk" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970881-2955>; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 06:48:39 -0500 Received: by netherhall.cambs.sch.uk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA03677; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:51:41 GMT Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:51:41 GMT From: tom@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk (Tom Palmer) Message-Id: <199712041151.LAA03677@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk> To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Problems with install (will not find any kernels)... X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hi, I have finally managed to get Arm-linux installed on my RiscPC all bar one thing, a kernel! When the install program gets to this point it pops up a statment saying that it cannot find any kernels. I installed Arm-linux via the ftp site, ftp.arm.uk.linux.org. I have tried both the /pub/armlinux/distrib directory and the /pub/armlinux/ directory. I can drop out of the install program and mount the hard disc partition which has Arm-linux on it. From here I can see everything that I have installed. I have tried to mount an MSDOS disc which contains the initial rpc kernel however no matter how I type the command it will not want to mount (I am trying to mount the floppy disc to /mnt/mnt/floppy as the hard disc partition has read/write access). Does anybody know of a fix for this? Preferably not to start all over again as all I need is to install the kernel. Thanks in advance, Tom Palmer, Webmaster, The Netherhall School, Cambridge, United Kingdom From tom@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk Thu Dec 4 16:07:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: from netherhall.cambs.sch.uk (mailgate.netherhall.cambs.sch.uk [193.131.112.97]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id QAA15149 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 16:07:48 GMT Received: by netherhall.cambs.sch.uk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA04131; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 16:07:26 GMT Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 16:07:26 GMT From: tom@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk (Tom Palmer) Message-Id: <199712041607.QAA04131@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk> To: willy@odie.barnet.ac.uk Subject: Re: Problems with install (will not find any kernels)... X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Status: RO Hi, > > > I have tried to mount an MSDOS disc which contains the initial rpc > > kernel however no matter how I type the command it will not want to mount > > (I am trying to mount the floppy disc to /mnt/mnt/floppy as the hard > > disc partition has read/write access). > > the correct command to use is: > > mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt/mnt/floppy > > Thanks for the advice. I figured that out after I sent the post. So now I finally have Arm-Linux running on my RiscPC, but I am still having problems. The problem that I now have is that I cannot get the network side of things to work. If I try the command "ifconfig eth0 194.128.208.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 up" the computer gives the message that ther is "No such device". I am using an EtherH card (made by i-cubed). I have had the computer using the network under the install program but am unsure of how to configure it now that I have Arm-Linux running. Is it that I need a different device name? Thanks in advance, Tom Palmer From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Dec 4 16:11:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA15161 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 16:11:01 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:36438 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <15703-16327>; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 18:07:44 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970850-2955>; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 10:59:49 -0500 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:2046 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971053-2954>; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 10:51:28 -0500 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id PAA15130; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 15:54:37 GMT From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199712041554.PAA15130@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Problems with install (will not find any kernels)... To: tom@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk (Tom Palmer) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 15:54:36 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199712041151.LAA03677@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk> from "Tom Palmer" at Dec 4, 97 11:51:41 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO [post reformatted. please try to wordwrap at 75 columns..] > I have finally managed to get Arm-linux installed on my RiscPC all > bar one thing, a kernel! When the install program gets to this point it > pops up a statment saying that it cannot find any kernels. This happened to me too. > I can drop out of the install program and mount the hard disc > partition which has Arm-linux on it. From here I can see everything that > I have installed. Excellent. > I have tried to mount an MSDOS disc which contains the initial rpc > kernel however no matter how I type the command it will not want to mount > (I am trying to mount the floppy disc to /mnt/mnt/floppy as the hard > disc partition has read/write access). the correct command to use is: mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt/mnt/floppy Personally, I'd mkdir /mnt/flp && mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt/flp, but that's just my personalpreference. What error messages do youget? Remember you canalso mount /dev/hda1 on /mnt/adfs and copy kernels from there. Some dos and don'ts with kernels: (0) Do edit /etc/boot.conf (1) Do remember to run loadmap (2) If you build your own kernel, use /usr/src/linux/arch/arm/boot/zImage as the kernel, not /usr/src/linux/vmlinux. This *seems* to be the problem that someone else was experiencing. (3) Currently, you need to leave the versioning of symbols on in order for the FP Emulator to work. From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Dec 4 16:39:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA15384 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 16:39:43 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:60933 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <16332-16327>; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 18:37:06 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970918-2954>; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:30:00 -0500 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:1114 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971439-2954>; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:15:26 -0500 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id QAA15340; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 16:18:37 GMT From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199712041618.QAA15340@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Problems with install (will not find any kernels)... To: tom@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk (Tom Palmer) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 16:18:35 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199712041607.QAA04131@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk> from "Tom Palmer" at Dec 4, 97 04:07:26 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO > The problem that I now have is that I cannot get the network side > of things to work. If I try the command "ifconfig eth0 194.128.208.10 > netmask 255.255.255.0 up" the computer gives the message that ther is > "No such device". Generically, this is because you do not have an Ethernet driver installed. > I am using an EtherH card (made by i-cubed). I have had the computer > using the network under the install program but am unsure of how to > configure it now that I have Arm-Linux running. Is it an EtherLan 500 or 600? The 500 (which I have) does not yet work. Russell knows of this problem. If it's a 600, you'll need to insmod the appropriate modules - 8390.o and etherh.o. You can find them on the root floppy, in /lib/modules if they aren't already on your hard disc. From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Dec 5 06:38:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA20619 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 06:38:38 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:5130 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <15482-16327>; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 05:22:03 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971795-2954>; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 21:50:33 -0500 Received: from monarch.ja.net ([128.86.16.37]:34328 "EHLO monarch.ja.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971765-2954>; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 21:50:18 -0500 Received: from sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by monarch.ja.net with SPAM SMTP (PP); Fri, 5 Dec 1997 02:54:11 +0000 Received: from bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk by sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk with NRS SMTP (PP); Thu, 4 Dec 1997 13:51:36 +0000 Received: from diana.ecs.soton.ac.uk.ecs.soton.ac.uk by bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk; Thu, 4 Dec 97 13:46:19 GMT From: Russ King Message-Id: <6462.9712041347@diana.ecs.soton.ac.uk.ecs.soton.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Problems with install (will not find any kernels)... To: tom@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk (Tom Palmer) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 13:47:56 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199712041151.LAA03677@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk> from "Tom Palmer" at Dec 4, 97 11:51:41 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-Envid: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<6462.9712041347@diana.ecs.soton] Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Tom Palmer writes: > I have finally managed to get Arm-linux installed on my RiscPC all bar > one thing, a kernel! When the install program gets to this point it pops > up a statment saying that it cannot find any kernels. Please see the FAQ on my web site. It tells you what to do at this point. From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Dec 5 14:06:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA23738 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 14:06:38 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:9328 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <4993-16327>; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 16:04:55 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971176-2955>; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 08:59:39 -0500 Received: from [193.131.112.97] ([193.131.112.97]:43561 "HELO netherhall.cambs.sch.uk" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971172-2955>; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 08:59:12 -0500 Received: by netherhall.cambs.sch.uk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA06391; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 14:02:27 GMT Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 14:02:27 GMT From: tom@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk (Tom Palmer) Message-Id: <199712051402.OAA06391@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk> To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Problems when compiling (lack of the right header files).... X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hi, I'm trying to compile some programs on my newly installed RiscPC Arm-linux machine. I've installed the kernel 2.0.31 sources and patched them for arm-linux. I have also made the various symbolic links from /usr/include/ to /usr/src/linux/include. The prblem that I have is that when I try to compile any programs (most noteably passwd, as I don't seem to have it on the system) I get the error that page.h in usr/src/linux/include/asm-arm/ cannot find asm/proc/page.h. I have had a look at the header file and all that I can see is that it just points to another header file. On other architectures it actually has something in it. Have I missed installing an essential patch or just not installed the right packages? (as far as I know I have installed everything). Thanks in advance, Tom Palmer, Webmaster, The Netherhall School, Cambridge, United Kingdom BTW: Thanks to all those who answered my posts for help over the last few days. Much appreciated. From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Dec 5 16:41:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA24766 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 16:41:55 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:33086 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <4257-16327>; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 18:41:39 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971815-2954>; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 11:06:29 -0500 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:1681 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971819-2954>; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 11:05:43 -0500 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id QAA24524; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 16:08:56 GMT From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199712051608.QAA24524@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Problems when compiling (lack of the right header files).... To: tom@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk (Tom Palmer) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 16:08:54 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199712051402.OAA06391@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk> from "Tom Palmer" at Dec 5, 97 02:02:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO > I'm trying to compile some programs on my newly installed RiscPC Arm-linux machine. I've installed the kernel 2.0.31 sources and patched them for arm-linux. I have also made the various symbolic links from /usr/include/ to /usr/src/linux/include. > The prblem that I have is that when I try to compile any programs (most noteably passwd, as I don't seem to have it on the system) I get the error that page.h in usr/src/linux/include/asm-arm/ cannot find asm/proc/page.h. I know what this one is. You need to `make config' in the kernel source tree. This sets up symbolic links to the appropriate proc - either proc-rpc or proc-arc. > BTW: Thanks to all those who answered my posts for help over the last few days. Much appreciated. It's nice to be appreciated ;-) Is there any chance you could reformat your postings to 75 chars or so? it's a bit inconvenient otherwise.. From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Dec 5 18:28:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA25463 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 18:28:15 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:2355 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <4668-16327>; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 20:24:24 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971851-2954>; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 12:43:03 -0500 Received: from mail.tin.it ([194.243.154.39]:43283 "EHLO fes3.cs.tin.it" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971845-2955>; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 12:30:15 -0500 Received: from riscpc (root@Monza6-84.tin.it [195.103.249.83]) by fes3.cs.tin.it (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA06863 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 18:34:15 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 16:52:41 +0100 From: Sergio Monesi To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: EADFS and Linux, a temporary solution... Message-ID: Organization: None, AFAIK... X-Mailer: Messenger v1.02 for RISC OS X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.59f X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hello, I hope you read the email I sent here asking for some support for EADFS (I didn't read any reply to it). I found a temporary solution that involves swappping the RISC OS bootblock so that I can either access the EADFS partitions or the Linux one but not both at the same time. This is not really straightforward, if anybody is interested I can post the process I followed to obtain it. I am now trying to set up a DOS partition in order to swap files easily between Linux and RISC OS. How do I configure the Linux partition table? There is no 'fdisk' in my installation (admittely I haven't installed all the RPMs nor I have the very latest versions) but the version supplied with the RedHat installer disc doesn't seem to be able to write to the disc. !PartMan can only create Linux native/swap partitions AFAIK. I'm ready to hack the partition table manually but I don't know the 'magic number' that marks a DOS partition (Linux swap seems to be 0xDEAFAB1E and Linux native 0xDEAFA1DE), can anybody help me? Is there a checksum in the partition table? Thanks in advance, Sergio -- Sergio Monesi... \ . . . \ Cracking RC5-64 with a StrongARM RiscPC mailto:msergio@tin.it \ . . . \ http://rc5.distributed.net/ http://bounce.to/sergio/ \ . . . \ Join the Wild Wereboar Team (#1308)! From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Dec 5 19:55:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA26045 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 19:55:23 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:2355 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <4526-16327>; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 21:48:18 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971819-2954>; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 12:36:07 -0500 Received: from harry.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE ([137.226.116.28]:50066 "EHLO Harry.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971836-2955>; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 12:20:04 -0500 Received: from laura.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (laura.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.116.81]) by Harry.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (8.8.7/RBI-P-9) with SMTP id SAA02848 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 18:24:32 +0100 (MET) Received: by laura.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (SMI-8.6/RBI-SOL2-1) id SAA09590; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 18:24:28 +0100 From: marx@Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (Thomas Marx) Message-Id: <199712051724.SAA09590@laura.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE> Subject: xxgdb To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 18:24:28 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hi! As everybody knows xxgdb does not run. I had a look at it with strace. One thing I saw was this : open('/dev/ptyp0",0_RDWR)=-1 EIO (I/O erro) (with pty0 - ptyp3) As I didn't find these devices I think this can be a potential error. What do you think? Regards, Tom From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Dec 7 01:08:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA03651 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 01:08:22 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:37729 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <16169-16327>; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 23:32:22 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971391-2954>; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 15:35:33 -0500 Received: from monarch.ja.net ([128.86.16.37]:56926 "EHLO monarch.ja.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971378-2954>; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 15:30:29 -0500 Received: from sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by monarch.ja.net with SPAM SMTP (PP); Sat, 6 Dec 1997 20:35:12 +0000 Received: from bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk by sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk with NRS SMTP (PP); Sat, 6 Dec 1997 20:35:10 +0000 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup0.cymru.net) by bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk; Sat, 6 Dec 97 20:32:33 GMT Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA05939; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 20:34:40 GMT From: Russell King Received: (from rmk@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA02184; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 20:34:36 GMT Message-Id: <199712062034.UAA02184@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: linux ftp site To: tom@xodus.demon.co.uk Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 20:34:35 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <19971206.173759.68@xodus.demon.co.uk> from "Tom Garcia" at Dec 6, 97 05:37:59 pm X-Location: london.england.earth.mulky-way.universe Reply-To: rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-Envid: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<199712062034.UAA02184@raistlin.] Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Tom Garcia writes: > I have recently been trying to connect to the ARM linux ftp site and > always receive Connection refused, I presume from /~rmk/armlinux.html that > the files have been moved, however I have searched all the pages and > cannot find the name of a new or mirror site. It would appear that the machine that has the ARM Linux FTP site on has suffered a denial of service attack from savaja.pp.fi, and as such FTP will not be available from this machine this weekend. You can thank someone in Amsterdam for that! _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/home.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Dec 7 18:36:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA10175 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 18:36:42 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:43086 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2031-16327>; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 15:52:28 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970887-2955>; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 08:16:43 -0500 Received: from saale.hof.baynet.de ([194.95.215.129]:1353 "EHLO hof.baynet.de" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970952-2955>; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 08:16:22 -0500 Received: from ho7003 ([194.95.215.197]) by hof.baynet.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA11769 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 15:22:13 +0100 Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 14:20:50 +0100 From: Christian Kohlschuetter To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: linux ftp site Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199712062034.UAA02184@raistlin.armlinux.org> Organization: WombatPD X-Mailer: Messenger v1.02 for RISC OS X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.59f X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO In message <199712062034.UAA02184@raistlin.armlinux.org> Russell King wrote: > It would appear that the machine that has the ARM Linux FTP site on has > suffered a denial of service attack from savaja.pp.fi, and as such FTP > will not be available from this machine this weekend. > > You can thank someone in Amsterdam for that! finland rather? -- Christian Kohlschuetter wombat@hof.baynet.de Wombat http://www.hof.baynet.de/~wombat unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Dec 8 03:24:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA13559 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 03:24:19 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:32383 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <4883-16327>; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 02:41:22 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971093-2954>; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:32:00 -0500 Received: from gate.guardian.no ([195.1.254.2]:61369 "HELO lucifer.guardian.no" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971072-2955>; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:29:43 -0500 Received: (qmail 11209 invoked by uid 202); 8 Dec 1997 00:32:16 -0000 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 01:32:16 +0100 (MET) From: Alexander Kjeldaas To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: ARM Architecture Reference In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Does anybody know whether the ARM Architecture Reference is available online? astor -- Alexander Kjeldaas, Guardian Networks AS, Trondheim, Norway http://www.guardian.no/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Dec 8 15:40:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA18211 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 15:40:29 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:27247 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11529-25308>; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 09:56:12 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971066-2954>; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 02:49:14 -0500 Received: from monarch.ja.net ([128.86.16.37]:42797 "EHLO monarch.ja.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971159-2954>; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 02:48:48 -0500 Received: from sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by monarch.ja.net with SPAM SMTP (PP); Mon, 8 Dec 1997 07:54:03 +0000 Received: from bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk by sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk with NRS SMTP (PP); Mon, 8 Dec 1997 07:53:55 +0000 Received: from by bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk; Mon, 8 Dec 97 07:51:27 GMT Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA08471 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 20:50:06 GMT From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id XAA00703 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 23:32:46 GMT Message-Id: <199711172332.XAA00703@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: New kernel source & kernels... To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 23:32:45 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-Envid: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<199711172332.XAA00703@raistlin.] Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hi all! There is now new kernel source on the FTP site, along with a new kernel. This fixes various problems with the console (hopefully including the notorious the 1MB VRAM bug). Please note that the web pages have moved again, however, the web address should stay the same (http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html). There may have been some disruption to the web pages during the move, however everything should be back to normal now. The FTP site has not moved yet, but should be moving in the next few days, so please bear with us during these times. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/home.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Dec 8 15:42:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA18223 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 15:42:01 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14962 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <15888-25308>; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 10:01:02 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971164-2955>; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 02:53:59 -0500 Received: from monarch.ja.net ([128.86.16.37]:42837 "EHLO monarch.ja.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971066-2955>; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 02:52:31 -0500 Received: from sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by monarch.ja.net with SPAM SMTP (PP); Mon, 8 Dec 1997 07:56:39 +0000 Received: from bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk by sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk with NRS SMTP (PP); Mon, 8 Dec 1997 07:56:37 +0000 Received: from by bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk; Mon, 8 Dec 97 07:54:04 GMT Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA08462; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 20:48:24 GMT From: Russell King Received: (from rmk@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA05306; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 20:47:20 GMT Message-Id: <199712072047.UAA05306@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Initial test of ELF tools... To: elf-arm@lists.barnet.ac.uk Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 20:39:59 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-Envid: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<199712072047.UAA05306@raistlin.] Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hi all! I decided to try out my hacks of gcc-2.7.2.2 and binutils-2.8 on the Linux kernel (v2.1.71) to see what it would make of it... However, gcc requires modifications far beyond the simple backend mods to get it to produce code suitable for compiling up the kernel with the __initfunc extensions... The problem is this: The Linux kernel puts all functions and data relating to initialisation in a separate section - .text.init and .data.init. This allows the Linux kernel to drop it's initialisation code after boot (since it's only run once, there's no point in keeping it in memory). When GCC compiles this code under ARM, using the following pre-processed C code (somewhat cut-down): void calibrate_delay(void) __attribute__((__section__(".text.init"))); void calibrate_delay(void) { loops_per_sec = (1<<12); printk("Calibrating delay loop.. "); ... } GCC outputs the following assembler code (cut-down): .global loops_per_sec .data .align 0 .type loops_per_sec,#object .size loops_per_sec,4 loops_per_sec: .word 4096 .text .LC106: .ascii "Calibrating delay loop.. \000" .section .text.init,"ax",@progbits .align 0 .LC105: .word loops_per_sec .align 0 .global calibrate_delay .type calibrate_delay,#function calibrate_delay: @ args = 0, pretend = 0, frame = 0 @ frame_needed = 1, current_function_anonymous_args = 0 @ pic_reg_used = 0 mov ip, sp stmfd sp!, {r4, r5, r6, r7, r8, fp, ip, lr, pc} ... sub r0, pc, #(8 + . -.LC106) sub fp, ip, #4 bl printk Unfortunately, the simple code generated for the printk doesn't work - the value of (8+.-.LC106) is not known becuase the location of .LC106 is not in the current section, and the text strings are written to the file *before* the constant pool (I've moved the section selection as early as I can with the current way GCC works). As far as I can see, we have the following options: a) Add an entry into the constant pool, but this will require an extra load, and an extra 4 bytes in the constant pool. b) Output the strings into the same section as the function (this would be the best solution, but it may not be easy to do with gcc). c) Add relocations for sub instructions etc, and get the binutils to do relaxing (requires a lot of work). If anyone would like to have a go at GCC, my replacement config/arm directory will be available next weekend. (Sorry, can't upload it this weekend - someone's successfully launched a denial of service attack against the FTP server). I'd like to be able (at some point) to make use of this feature that the Linux kernel offers. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/home.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Dec 9 13:07:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA26049 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 13:06:57 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:54870 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <15548-25308>; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 12:15:46 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970803-2955>; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 05:08:46 -0500 Received: from [193.131.112.97] ([193.131.112.97]:34543 "HELO netherhall.cambs.sch.uk" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970799-2955>; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 05:07:40 -0500 Received: by netherhall.cambs.sch.uk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA03395; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 10:12:08 GMT Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 10:12:08 GMT From: tom@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk (Tom Palmer) Message-Id: <199712091012.KAA03395@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk> To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: G++ Standard Libs? X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hi, I'm in the middle of trying to compile KDE which is written in c++, but I don't seem to have any of the standard libs (such as libg++.a). I went back to the ftp site and reinstalled some of the packages (such as gcc-c++..) just in case they didn't install properly. No such luck. As I understand it these libs are standard with the gcc distribution and some parts are architecture dependant. Where can I find these for Arm-linux? BTW: To get KDE working I had to compile Qt. Everything went fine when I made it as a static library. The problem arose when I tried to make a shared library. The only main difference in compiler flags was -fPIC (which is to do with the standard c lib, right?). GCC would convert everything to assembler code and the drop out when it tried to compile the assembler code. Any ideas why? Thanks in advance, Tom Palmer, Webmaster, The Netherhall School, Cambridge, United Kingdom unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Dec 9 16:15:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA27734 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 16:15:51 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:50270 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <4320-25308>; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 17:28:42 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971096-215>; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 09:50:35 -0500 Received: from mail.tin.it ([194.243.154.39]:41499 "EHLO fes3.cs.tin.it" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971159-219>; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 09:41:22 -0500 Received: from riscpc (root@Monza7-138.tin.it [195.103.249.137]) by fes3.cs.tin.it (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA26665; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 14:19:48 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 19:46:43 +0100 From: Sergio Monesi To: Phil Norman Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: EADFS and Linux, a temporary solution... Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Organization: None, AFAIK... X-Mailer: Messenger v1.02 for RISC OS X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.59f X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO In message Phil Norman wrote: > > I am now trying to set up a DOS partition in order to swap files easily > > between Linux and RISC OS. How do I configure the Linux partition table? > > There is no 'fdisk' in my installation (admittely I haven't installed all > > the RPMs nor I have the very latest versions) but the version supplied > > with the RedHat installer disc doesn't seem to be able to write to the > > disc. !PartMan can only create Linux native/swap partitions AFAIK. > You don't need a DOS partition to swap files between linux and RiscOS. > Linux can mount (read-only) ADFS partitions, and ExeterFS (available from > my web site, URL in the sig) is a RiscOS program which can read linux > ext2fs partitions. Unfortunately, this currently means that you have to > boot into the OS you want to copy things into, but it means you don't > have to resort to smelly DOS ;-) I have ExeterFS but I never actually tried it. My main concern is that I cannot generally access the Linux partition because while I am working with RISC OS I am using the EADFS bootblock while from Linux I cannot access all the ADFS partitions (for the same reason). Instead, the DOS partition is shared between the two OSes so I can transfer the files easily (eg. using a parallel port Zip file that I can only access from Linux) or simply store them there avoiding to waste twice the space. > > I'm ready to hack the partition table manually but I don't know the > > 'magic number' that marks a DOS partition (Linux swap seems to be > > 0xDEAFAB1E and Linux native 0xDEAFA1DE), can anybody help me? Is there a > > checksum in the partition table? > Yep, those magic numbers are correct. AFAICR, the partition table is > stored as an array of 3-word-long entries, each with the following format: > +0 partition magic number (as you mentioned above) > +4 offset from first sector of partition table to first sector of partition > +8 length, in sectors, of partition > ....and if the 'magic number' is zero, that means there are no more > partitions. Yes, a quick look at the ExeterFS sources has been very useful for me to understand that :-) Now, even if I still don't know the magic number of a DOS partition, I fixed my problem: I created another Linux Native partition (using PartMan) that points to the DOS partition (not at the beginning of it, though, because it seems to contain a DOS partition table or something like that), then Linux recognises it during the boot and I can mount it using 'mount -t msdos /dev/hda7 /dosswap' (or writing a line in /etc/fstab). > Linux can tell the difference between partition tables created by PartMan > and those created by DOS (if it sees a partition table, when it prints the > info on each drive it can see it prints a [DOS] or [Linux] depending on > which partition type it is). It also seems to print [RISCiX] if it finds a *RiscBSD* partition table (on my other disc)! Unfortunately it doesn't seem to recognise it, I could share the swap space between the two OSes... > Actually, here I have a few questions of my own. > 1: Is the [Linux] partition table one which is generic to all versions of > Linux, or is it one invented by RK? I tried to use the Linux 'fdisk' on a PC (any idea about why it is missing from the ARMLinux distribution?) in order to understand the DOS magic number but it seemed to be completely different from the ARMLinux one... probably because it was actually a DOS partition table, though... Cheers, Sergio -- Sergio Monesi... \ . . . \ Cracking RC5-64 with a StrongARM RiscPC mailto:msergio@tin.it \ . . . \ http://rc5.distributed.net/ http://bounce.to/sergio/ \ . . . \ Join the Wild Wereboar Team (#1308)! unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Dec 9 19:47:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA29055 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 19:47:12 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:39722 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <15902-25308>; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 19:58:18 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971505-215>; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:34:26 -0500 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1065 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971626-219>; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 10:29:09 -0500 Received: (from alan@localhost) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) id NAA13150; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 13:09:02 GMT From: Alan Cox Message-Id: <199712091309.NAA13150@snowcrash.cymru.net> Subject: Re: G++ Standard Libs? To: tom@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk (Tom Palmer) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 13:08:59 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199712091012.KAA03395@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk> from "Tom Palmer" at Dec 9, 97 10:12:08 am Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO > don't seem to have any of the standard libs (such as libg++.a). I went back to > the ftp site and reinstalled some of the packages (such as gcc-c++..) just in > case they didn't install properly. No such luck. libg++/libstdc is part of the libc5/glibc stuff that the ARM kit still lakcs > > BTW: To get KDE working I had to compile Qt. Everything went fine when I > it as a static library. The problem arose when I tried to make a shared library. > The only main difference in compiler flags was -fPIC (which is to do with the > standard c lib, right?). GCC would convert everything to assembler code and the > drop out when it tried to compile the assembler code. Any ideas why? You need ELF support for -fPIC to work out. To build Qt shared on the ARM you'll need to build it without -fPIC as an a.out shared library image which is fairly painful, incredibly painful in fact unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Dec 9 22:58:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA30314 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 22:58:50 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:18997 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <5029-25308>; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 21:22:50 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971446-219>; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 14:08:29 -0500 Received: from fm3.facility.pipex.com ([194.131.104.13]:45339 "HELO fm3.facility.pipex.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971682-215>; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 13:38:49 -0500 Received: from earth [158.152.208.192] by fm3.facility.pipex.com with smtp (Exim 1.59 #22) id 0xfTfD-0005wh-00; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 17:41:43 +0000 Message-ID: <348D4C2C.41C67EA6@causality.com> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 13:48:28 +0000 From: "Neil A. Carson" Organization: Causality Limited (London, UK) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; NetBSD 1.2G arm32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Palmer CC: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: G++ Standard Libs? References: <199712091012.KAA03395@netherhall.cambs.sch.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO > I'm in the middle of trying to compile KDE which is written in c++, but I > don't seem to have any of the standard libs (such as libg++.a). I went back to > the ftp site and reinstalled some of the packages (such as gcc-c++..) just in > case they didn't install properly. No such luck. > > As I understand it these libs are standard with the gcc distribution and some > parts are architecture dependant. Where can I find these for Arm-linux? > BTW: To get KDE working I had to compile Qt. Everything went fine when I made > it as a static library. The problem arose when I tried to make a shared library. > The only main difference in compiler flags was -fPIC (which is to do with the > standard c lib, right?). GCC would convert everything to assembler code and the > drop out when it tried to compile the assembler code. Any ideas why? ARM Linux at the moment uses fixed address shared libraries, so I don't believe that the -fPIC should be necessary. There should either be a file with the package detailing the address for the libraries, or you can get one from Russel (assuming he's keeping track of these things). Building it shared is well worth doing---I built the lot for 'BSD and found that executables tended to be tiny when shared, and stupidly large when not (ie a big contrast). Do the demos with the QT library work? Cheers, Neil unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Dec 10 04:33:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA32405 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 04:33:34 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:24096 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1247-25308>; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 01:55:41 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971440-219>; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 18:33:41 -0500 Received: from monarch.ja.net ([128.86.16.37]:60243 "EHLO monarch.ja.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971477-215>; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 18:10:54 -0500 Received: from sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by monarch.ja.net with SPAM SMTP (PP); Tue, 9 Dec 1997 22:55:45 +0000 Received: from bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk by sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk with NRS SMTP (PP); Tue, 9 Dec 1997 22:55:43 +0000 Received: from by bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk; Tue, 9 Dec 97 22:53:16 GMT Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA14153; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 20:53:40 GMT Illegal-Object: Syntax error in From: address found on vger.rutgers.edu: From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin ^-illegal word in localpart, propably extra '.' at the end of the address Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00335; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 20:53:27 GMT Message-Id: <199712092053.UAA00335@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: EADFS and Linux, a temporary solution... From: To: P.C.F.Norman@exeter.ac.uk (Phil Norman) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 20:53:25 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Phil Norman" at Dec 8, 97 10:08:57 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-Envid: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<199712092053.UAA00335@raistlin.] Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Phil Norman writes: > 1: Is the [Linux] partition table one which is generic to all versions of > Linux, or is it one invented by RK? No, it is a special for native standard internal Filecore disks. Each drive manufacturer has a totally different scheme of how to handle partitions on their system, and as such, ARM Linux tries to use the same method that the manufacturer uses, hence the partition table is totally different on each manufacturers device. Believe it! :( It means that you can't take (for instance) and ICS IDEFS formatted IDE drive and put it on the RapIDE interface, nor can you take a PowerTec formatted SCSI drive and connect it to a Cumana SCSI card - if you do, only the first partition will be available. At least Linux will identify the partitioning scheme used on the drive, rather than associate it with the interface! ;) > 2: What's the format of the [DOS] partition table? It is a standard DOS partition table. I'll have to say, read the source, Luke. ;) _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/home.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Dec 10 09:22:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA01310 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 09:22:20 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:24096 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1701-25308>; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 01:55:27 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971348-215>; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 18:33:27 -0500 Received: from monarch.ja.net ([128.86.16.37]:60235 "EHLO monarch.ja.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971461-215>; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 18:10:48 -0500 Received: from sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by monarch.ja.net with SPAM SMTP (PP); Tue, 9 Dec 1997 22:56:11 +0000 Received: from bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk by sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk with NRS SMTP (PP); Tue, 9 Dec 1997 22:55:50 +0000 Received: from by bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk; Tue, 9 Dec 97 22:53:23 GMT Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA14188; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 21:03:42 GMT From: Russell King Received: (from rmk@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id VAA00370; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 21:03:28 GMT Message-Id: <199712092103.VAA00370@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Troubles compiling kernel To: janm@kom.auc.dk (Jan Magnussen) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 21:03:27 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Jan Magnussen" at Dec 9, 97 00:09:46 am X-Location: london.england.earth.mulky-way.universe Reply-To: rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-Envid: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<199712092103.VAA00370@raistlin.] Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Jan Magnussen writes: > [root@fbi /root]# ifconfig > lo Link encap:Local Loopback > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0 > UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3584 Metric:1 > RX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 > TX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 > > eth0 Link encap:10Mbps Ethernet HWaddr 00:C0:32:00:1D:63 > inet addr:192.0.0.115 Bcast:192.0.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:260 overruns:0 > TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 > Interrupt:32 Memory:80000200-0 > > [root@fbi /root]# ping fbi > PING fbi (192.0.0.115): 56 data bytes > ping: sendto: Network is unreachable > ping: wrote fbi 64 chars, ret=-1 > ping: sendto: Network is unreachable > ping: wrote fbi 64 chars, ret=-1 > ping: sendto: Network is unreachable > ping: wrote fbi 64 chars, ret=-1 > > --- fbi ping statistics --- > 3 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss Things to try: route - print/modify a routing table. Simply configuring an interface does not automatically mean that packets are routed to it (since you may not actually want that to happen, or you only want certain packets to go through that interface. ping localhost This will indicate if your loopback interface is working. If not, then ping fbi won't work either - the packets for the local interfaces are internally routed via lo. cat /proc/interrupts This will give information about the number of interrupts received per IRQ channel, and would be useful for tracking down this problem. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/home.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Dec 11 10:44:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA11021 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 10:44:45 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:12825 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <17526-6240>; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 12:43:15 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <972031-226>; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 05:35:25 -0500 Received: from zaz.kom.auc.dk ([130.225.51.10]:54942 "HELO zaz.kom.auc.dk" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <972059-230>; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 23:14:27 -0500 Received: from wartburg.kom.auc.dk [130.225.51.19] (janm) by zaz.kom.auc.dk with esmtp (Exim 1.73 #2) id 0xfi5e-0002oa-00; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 10:05:58 +0100 Message-ID: <348E5B76.B9626E68@kom.auc.dk> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 10:05:58 +0100 From: Jan Magnussen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk CC: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Troubles compiling kernel References: <199712092103.VAA00370@raistlin.armlinux.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Russell King wrote: > > Jan Magnussen writes: > > [root@fbi /root]# ifconfig > > lo Link encap:Local Loopback > > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0 > > UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3584 Metric:1 > > RX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 > > TX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 > > > > eth0 Link encap:10Mbps Ethernet HWaddr 00:C0:32:00:1D:63 > > inet addr:192.0.0.115 Bcast:192.0.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 > > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > > RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:260 overruns:0 > > TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 > > Interrupt:32 Memory:80000200-0 > Things to try: > > route - print/modify a routing table. > Simply configuring an interface does not automatically mean that > packets are routed to it (since you may not actually want that > to happen, or you only want certain packets to go through that > interface. [root@fbi /root]# route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 1 lo I managed to set up a default route, and after I did that, I was able to ping myself :-) How do I make the default route automatic start on bootup? I was able to configure eth0 to start on default (/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0) > ping localhost > This will indicate if your loopback interface is working. If > not, then ping fbi won't work either - the packets for the local > interfaces are internally routed via lo. I could ping the localhost before I set up the default route (and afterwards as well) :-) Unfortunately I'm atm. the only one on our local network, so I can't test if it can talk to other computers than my own, but I will let know as soon as they rejoin the net. > cat /proc/interrupts > This will give information about the number of interrupts received > per IRQ channel, and would be useful for tracking down this problem. [root@fbi /root]# cat /proc/interrupts 32: 0 etherh Regards, Jan Magnussen http://www.kom.auc.dk/~janm Fidonet 2:234/181.8 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Dec 11 12:41:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA11600 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 12:41:53 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:51482 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <17552-6240>; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:37:55 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971891-226>; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 04:41:31 -0500 Received: from court4.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.188.4]:25781 "EHLO court4.ncl.ac.uk" ident: "armlinux") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <972004-226>; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 22:12:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (armlinux@localhost) by court4.ncl.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id DAA02098 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 03:08:30 GMT Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 03:08:24 +0000 (GMT) From: "A.S.MCGough" To: Arm Linux Subject: SCSI problems on an R260 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO I finally got my R260 with riscos3 back so I tried again to boot armlinux - to much better effect, however it still seems to be failing. after booting with !linux -bootkernel r260_scsi_ it goes fine till it probes the scsi devices, at which point it identifies the first drive then it repeats the following indefinatly scsi0.0: using asynchroneous transfer scsi0.0: phase - MSGOUT, SSR 8E? ..... .... scsi0.0 : resetting (roughly from memory) Anyone know what is wrong, or what I am doing wrong. Thanks, steve.. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Dec 11 14:20:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA12341 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:20:57 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:19253 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <13186-15644>; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:19:13 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <972078-230>; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 05:36:59 -0500 Received: from ernst.netinsight.se ([195.17.50.130]:2022 "HELO ernst.netinsight.se" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <972166-230>; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 23:50:19 -0500 Received: from wally (unverified [195.17.50.147]) by ernst.netinsight.se (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 09:14:49 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971210092002.0093f9d0@ernst> X-Sender: obg@ernst X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 09:20:02 +0100 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu From: Olof Backing Subject: How to start/run the EBSA-110 Kernel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hello, I'm trying to run the pre-compiled kernel made by RMK. The information on how and where to put the kernel (flash/ROM) and other requirements are sparse. Does anyone know anything of importance? /Olof Olof Backing Net Insight AB Phone: +46-8 449 22 36 Ingenjörsvägen 3, 2tr Fax: +46-8 449 22 40 S-117 43 Stockholm mailto:olof.backing@netinsight.se Sweden http://www.netinsight.se unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Dec 12 01:42:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA16544 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 01:42:28 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:44068 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <13162-5889>; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 03:37:43 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971295-6463>; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 20:33:13 -0500 Received: from court4.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.188.4]:26704 "EHLO court4.ncl.ac.uk" ident: "armlinux") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971303-6462>; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 17:02:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (armlinux@localhost) by court4.ncl.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA02795; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 21:58:51 GMT Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 21:58:46 +0000 (GMT) From: "A.S.MCGough" To: David Alan Gilbert cc: Arm Linux Subject: Re: SCSI problems on an R260 In-Reply-To: <348FE155.99082F56@cogency.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO On Thu, 11 Dec 1997, David Alan Gilbert wrote: > Hi, > You have probably just got an old version of the kernel; > have a look at my werb page and follow the ARM Linux stuff on it > and try the other kernels on there to see fi you get further. > > (www.treblig.demon.co.uk) > Erm, still not too good, I tried all three kernels from your site but got the same effect. The only one that got any futher was the one that had no scsi support on it. I was wondering therefore which acorn scsi card you have - mine is the aka31 issue 2 card. steve.. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Dec 17 20:03:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA02742 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 20:03:23 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:21828 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <14001-8621>; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 22:00:11 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970943-6773>; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:33:58 -0500 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:53707 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970904-6773>; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:22:57 -0500 Received: from keffd.demon.co.uk ([194.222.10.42]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2025485; 17 Dec 97 17:08 GMT Received: from [127.0.0.1] by keffd.demon.co.uk with SMTP; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:07:48 GMT Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:05:57 +0000 From: Linux mailing Lists To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Problem with installation guide Message-ID: Organization: Home X-Mailer: Messenger v1.10 for RISC OS X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.59f X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hi. I have followed the installation guide by Phil Norman (Thanks for goijg to the effort to make it). I have one prob though. When I go to the command line and do mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 mnt and mount -t adfs /dev/hda1 adfs I get an error saying device not known. Any ideas??? Please help Thanks Daniel Kefford (Mecca5 on IRC) -- Falcon Logic Software Division unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Dec 17 22:50:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA03894 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 22:50:44 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:24590 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <14128-8621>; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 00:46:25 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970796-6776>; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:42:12 -0500 Received: from post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.154]:55953 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970793-6776>; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:41:59 -0500 Received: from keffd.demon.co.uk ([194.222.10.42]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa1029422; 17 Dec 97 22:34 GMT Received: from [127.0.0.1] by keffd.demon.co.uk with SMTP; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 22:34:43 GMT Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 22:31:30 +0000 From: Linux mailing Lists To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Added info on mount problem Message-ID: Organization: Home X-Mailer: Messenger v1.10 for RISC OS X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.59f X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hi. I don't know if this is any use in trying to solve my problem but since having the problem with trying to do mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 mnt and mount -t adfs /dev/hda1 adfs I have found that there is no file called fd0 or hda1 inside the dev dir. I don't know whether I am being stupid or if that is anythign significant but I would have thought there should be something in there shouldn't there? I haven't installed the rpms because according to the installation guide I have seen this is supposed to be done first. If anyone can help can they mail me. It would be much appreciated. I thought everything was gping fine up until this point. Daniel -- Falcon Logic Software Division unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Dec 18 00:20:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA04463 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 00:20:08 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:12885 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <15371-5889>; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 02:17:22 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970865-6776>; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 19:13:02 -0500 Received: from odin.waw.com ([194.51.88.249]:8449 "EHLO odin.waw.com" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970857-6776>; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 19:11:19 -0500 Received: from odin.waw.com (vincent@mail.waw.com [194.51.88.252]) by odin.waw.com (8.8.7/8.8.7/waw) with SMTP id BAA30181; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 01:18:54 +0100 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 01:18:53 +0100 (GMT+0100) From: Vincent Renardias To: Linux mailing Lists cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Added info on mount problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO On Wed, 17 Dec 1997, Linux mailing Lists wrote: > I have found that there is no file called fd0 or hda1 inside the dev dir. I > don't know whether I am being stupid or if that is anythign significant but I > would have thought there should be something in there shouldn't there? I > haven't installed the rpms because according to the installation guide I have > seen this is supposed to be done first. If anyone can help can they mail me. > It would be much appreciated. I thought everything was gping fine up until > this point. You can create /dev/fd0 by typing 'mknod /dev/fd0 b 2 0'. If you don't have hda1 (IDE disks), try if sda1 (SCSI) work. Or create them by 'mknod /dev/hda1 b 3 1' and 'mknod /dev/sda1 b 8 1'. Good luck... -- - Vincent RENARDIAS vincent@{waw.com,pipo.com,debian.org} - - Debian/GNU Linux: Pipo: WAW: - - http://www.fr.debian.org http://www.pipo.com http://www.waw.com - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - "La fonctionnalite Son Visuel vous delivre des avertissements visuels." - - [Message durant l'installation de Windows95] :wq unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Dec 18 16:47:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA11945 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 16:47:20 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:58954 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <15734-28854>; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 18:45:45 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970965-6773>; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 11:39:58 -0500 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:55137 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970975-6776>; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 11:36:10 -0500 Received: from keffd.demon.co.uk ([194.222.10.42]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2005249; 18 Dec 97 16:07 GMT Received: from [127.0.0.1] by keffd.demon.co.uk with SMTP; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 16:07:27 GMT Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 16:04:14 +0000 From: Linux mailing Lists To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Installation help needed Message-ID: <511f7afa47%linux@keffd.demon.co.uk> Organization: Home X-Mailer: Messenger v1.10 for RISC OS X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.59f X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hi. I am still having problems installing ARMLinux. As I said earlier. I was wondering if someone else who had installed it could give me some pointers on how to do it. I have the rpms zipped up on my HD (adfs) I have a 550Mb Linux Native partition and a 20Mb swap partition set up but I just don't know what to do next as the installation guide of Phil's that I tries to use doesn't seem to work for me. I only have 1 HD adfs = partition 1, Linux table = 2, Linux native patition = 3, Swap patition = 4. If anyone can help it would be much appreciated. Thanks Daniel -- Falcon Logic Software Division unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Dec 19 11:41:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA18896 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 11:41:39 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:11270 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <15925-28854>; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 13:41:32 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970858-6773>; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 06:37:04 -0500 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:1556 "HELO globe" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970855-6773>; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 06:36:48 -0500 Received: from spring.nexus.co.uk [192.0.0.3] (exim) by globe with smtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0xj0YF-0006QP-00; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 11:25:07 +0000 Received: from spring.nexus.co.uk [127.0.0.1] (pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.73 #2) id 0xj0YD-0003so-00; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 11:25:05 +0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: 2.0.33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 11:25:04 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hi. I made a new ARM patch against kernel 2.0.33. You can get it at http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/arm-diff-2.0.33-971219.gz This patch is based on Russell's patch of 14/9/97 against 2.0.31pre9. Aside from the minor tweaks needed for 2.0.33, the changes are: - Machine and CPU type selection are done by `make config' (or menuconfig, xconfig etc..) rather than by editing the Makefile. - Initial support for a new machine type, `nexuspci'. - Some compatibility cruft removed; you need the new binutils now. - Folded some of the changes to (eg) floppy.c back into the generic driver, rather than having an ARM-specific version. - Changed the ZTEXTADDR setting for ARM2/3 machines to make the bootloader's life easier. If you need to change it back (to use an existing loader) this setting is in arch/arm/Makefile. This stuff is all largely untested, though I can successfully compile RiscPC kernels with it. Enjoy. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Dec 19 13:03:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA19470 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 13:03:03 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:97 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <16099-15776>; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 15:02:37 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970878-6773>; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 07:57:53 -0500 Received: from [151.196.69.100] ([151.196.69.100]:32827 "EHLO www-dc-09.digiserve.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970876-6776>; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 07:57:32 -0500 Received: from pingu.itl.net (ap208-15.itl.net [194.145.15.208]) by www-dc-09.digiserve.com (8.8.2/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA01580 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:02:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19971219125411.00669b80@digiserve.com> X-Sender: garan@digiserve.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 12:54:11 +0000 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu From: G a r a n Subject: scsidm X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hi When trying to use scsidm I use the 'section' command Unfortunately, this always makes the riscos section cover the entire disc, despite me specifying it to be only 1mb large for example. However if I make the riscos section 1mb, it will also tell me that there is 202mb free and 203mb used by riscos (in !partman). So, I am not able to create linux partitions... anyone else have probs with scsidm? bye -- garan @ digiserve . com unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Dec 19 21:44:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA22838 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 21:44:27 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:40544 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <14151-625>; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 23:44:16 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971166-6776>; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 15:53:25 -0500 Received: from monarch.ja.net ([128.86.16.37]:33278 "EHLO monarch.ja.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971160-6776>; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 15:52:29 -0500 Received: from sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by monarch.ja.net with SPAM SMTP (PP); Fri, 19 Dec 1997 20:53:40 +0000 Received: from bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk by sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk with NRS SMTP (PP); Fri, 19 Dec 1997 20:53:38 +0000 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup0.cymru.net) by bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk; Fri, 19 Dec 97 20:50:56 GMT Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA00425; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 20:52:48 GMT From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00539; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 20:52:36 GMT Message-Id: <199712192052.UAA00539@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: 2.0.33 To: pb@nexus.co.uk (Philip Blundell) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 20:52:35 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Dec 19, 97 11:25:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-Envid: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<199712192052.UAA00539@raistlin.] Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Philip Blundell writes: > I made a new ARM patch against kernel 2.0.33. You can get it at If you also want people to download it once, don't put it on http only. Make it available on FTP. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/home.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Dec 19 23:20:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA23390 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 23:20:08 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:3168 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <18105-625>; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 01:20:06 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970995-6773>; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 17:54:05 -0500 Received: from monarch.ja.net ([128.86.16.37]:36029 "EHLO monarch.ja.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971156-6773>; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 17:53:25 -0500 Received: from sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by monarch.ja.net with SPAM SMTP (PP); Fri, 19 Dec 1997 22:53:17 +0000 Received: from bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk by sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk with NRS SMTP (PP); Fri, 19 Dec 1997 22:53:15 +0000 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup0.cymru.net) by bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk; Fri, 19 Dec 97 22:50:47 GMT Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA00380 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 20:43:38 GMT From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00495 for pb@nexus.co.uk; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 20:43:26 GMT Message-Id: <199712192043.UAA00495@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: 2.0.33 To: pb@nexus.co.uk (Philip Blundell) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 20:43:26 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Dec 19, 97 11:25:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-Envid: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<199712192043.UAA00495@raistlin.] Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Philip Blundell writes: > > Hi. > > I made a new ARM patch against kernel 2.0.33. You can get it at > > http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/arm-diff-2.0.33-971219.gz This will, of course, be totally incompatible with my 2.0.33 patch once released. (This is the first that even I have heard about this). _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/home.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Dec 20 18:28:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA30228 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 18:28:16 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:34333 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <16257-627>; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 20:23:50 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971348-6773>; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 12:15:10 -0500 Received: from mail.tin.it ([194.243.154.39]:50323 "EHLO fes3.cs.tin.it" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971339-6776>; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 12:08:49 -0500 Received: from riscpc (root@Monza7-147.tin.it [195.103.249.146]) by fes3.cs.tin.it (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA22516 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 18:12:49 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 17:46:02 +0100 From: Sergio Monesi To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: ld running out of memory Message-ID: <469f85fb47%msergio@msergio.tin.it> Organization: None, AFAIK... X-Mailer: Messenger v1.10 for RISC OS X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.59f X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO I've been trying to compile lesstif (0.81) and then Mosaic but I encountered a strange problem. ld seems to run out of memory even if there is definitely enough swap space (if not physical memory). It reports the following error: ld: Can not allocate 16386 bytes after allocating 12271616 bytes I tried to check the 'ulimit' values but everything seems to be unlimited, even setting them to some sensible values doesn't seem to help. Trying to free more physical memory didn't help and the same problem (with the same values) happened running two copies of 'ld' concurrently. I managed to compile everything using --no-keep-memory (although I had to run 'ld' manually, using '-Wl,--no-keep-memory' in the 'gcc' options didn't seem to work) but I'd still like to understand why ld doesn't seem to be able to allocate more than 12Mb of memory. Any idea? BTW: The lesstif library doesn't seem to work, Mosaic and even the test programs doesn't work (something to do with XmDropSiteManager), does anybody managed to compile it? Regards, Sergio -- Sergio Monesi... \ . . . \ Cracking RC5-64 with a StrongARM RiscPC mailto:msergio@tin.it \ . . . \ http://rc5.distributed.net/ http://bounce.to/sergio/ \ . . . \ Join the Wild Wereboar Team (#1308)! unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Dec 20 19:07:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA30435 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 19:07:25 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:34333 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <17507-625>; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 20:38:29 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970884-6773>; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 13:31:11 -0500 Received: from [151.196.69.100] ([151.196.69.100]:34654 "EHLO www-dc-09.digiserve.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970876-6773>; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 13:30:44 -0500 Received: from pingu.itl.net (ap207-15.itl.net [194.145.15.207]) by www-dc-09.digiserve.com (8.8.2/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA14660 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 13:36:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19971220182754.00663e54@digiserve.com> X-Sender: garan@digiserve.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 18:27:54 +0000 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu From: G a r a n Subject: scsi faults? hardware or software? X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO hi After trying much with mknod, I can't mount my scsi drive, whereas the ide drive will always mount fine. I get the feeling linux doesn't like my drive for three reasons : 1. The activity light on the scsi drive comes on and stays on permanently when I boot linux. It stays on and never turns off until reboot. 2. No mention of my scsi drive (203mb maxtor on device 0) is seen on the boot up sequence although both my scsi card (aka31) and econet card are detected. 3. Partman always insists that the filecore partition is 203mb even when it is not. The drive works perfectly under riscos and always has. I'm using kernel, partman, bootloader and all that which I downloaded two days ago, so are recent. Anyone any ideas? Are there any other programs than scsidm to use with an acorn scsi card. Thanks for your help Garan (it's a rpc600 with 8mb 1mb vram. aka31 scsi, econet expansion) -- garan @ digiserve . com unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Dec 20 19:29:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA30614 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 19:29:21 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:19804 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1295-625>; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 21:26:20 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970807-6776>; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 14:21:35 -0500 Received: from [151.196.69.100] ([151.196.69.100]:34713 "EHLO www-dc-09.digiserve.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970797-6776>; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 14:21:08 -0500 Received: from pingu.itl.net (ap179-15.itl.net [194.145.15.179]) by www-dc-09.digiserve.com (8.8.2/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA15999 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 14:26:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19971220191819.00667944@digiserve.com> X-Sender: garan@digiserve.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 19:18:19 +0000 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu From: G a r a n Subject: scsi faults? the boot X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO hi Here is what it says : It knows the card is there : 0:[0000:0002] SCSI expansion card 8:[0000:0007] Acorn econet but then later scsi : 0 hosts scsi : detected total I'm confused. thanks Garan -- garan @ digiserve . com unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Dec 20 20:06:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA30802 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 20:06:30 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:34430 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <9528-627>; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 22:06:00 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970814-6773>; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 15:01:03 -0500 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1051 "HELO paddington.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970807-6776>; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 15:00:53 -0500 Received: from paddington.london.uk.eu.org [::ffff:127.0.0.1] by paddington.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #2) id 0xjW1z-000083-00; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 21:01:55 +0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: 2.0.33 In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 19 Dec 1997 20:52:35 GMT." <199712192052.UAA00539@raistlin.armlinux.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 21:01:55 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO >Philip Blundell writes: >> I made a new ARM patch against kernel 2.0.33. You can get it at > >If you also want people to download it once, don't put it on http only. >Make it available on FTP. I don't have a convenient FTP site to make it available on at the moment. (I don't quite understand what you're saying...) p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Dec 20 20:17:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA30982 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 20:17:54 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:20241 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10118-626>; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 22:17:00 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970808-6776>; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 15:11:33 -0500 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1195 "HELO paddington.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970822-6776>; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 15:10:09 -0500 Received: from paddington.london.uk.eu.org [::ffff:127.0.0.1] by paddington.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #2) id 0xjWBz-0000Bg-00; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 21:12:15 +0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Sergio Monesi cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ld running out of memory In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 20 Dec 1997 17:46:02 +0100." <469f85fb47%msergio@msergio.tin.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 21:12:15 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO >ld: Can not allocate 16386 bytes after allocating 12271616 bytes What version of ld are you using? I think old versions of BFD had a bug that could cause this sort of effect sometimes, though I've never seen it manifest in quite that way. If you strace ld as it runs, you may be able to get a better idea of why it fails. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Dec 20 20:26:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA30993 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 20:26:42 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:4892 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <4617-623>; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 22:23:36 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970822-6773>; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 15:17:48 -0500 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1203 "HELO paddington.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970814-6773>; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 15:13:28 -0500 Received: from paddington.london.uk.eu.org [::ffff:127.0.0.1] by paddington.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #2) id 0xjWEK-0000C8-00; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 21:14:40 +0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: G a r a n cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: scsi faults? the boot In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 20 Dec 1997 19:18:19 GMT." <1.5.4.32.19971220191819.00667944@digiserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 21:14:39 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO >It knows the card is there : > >0:[0000:0002] SCSI expansion card >8:[0000:0007] Acorn econet > >but then later > >scsi : 0 hosts >scsi : detected total > >I'm confused. Are you sure you compiled the right driver into your kernel? If so, it looks like the driver is buggy. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Dec 20 22:19:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA31770 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 22:19:46 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:62229 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2031-625>; Sun, 21 Dec 1997 00:19:41 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970791-6776>; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 17:14:49 -0500 Received: from [151.196.69.100] ([151.196.69.100]:34865 "EHLO www-dc-09.digiserve.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970937-6773>; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 17:14:28 -0500 Received: from pingu.itl.net (ap185-15.itl.net [194.145.15.185]) by www-dc-09.digiserve.com (8.8.2/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA20709 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 17:20:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19971220221140.0066d5e8@digiserve.com> X-Sender: garan@digiserve.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 22:11:40 +0000 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu From: G a r a n Subject: Re: scsi faults? the boot X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO At 21:14 20/12/97 +0000, you wrote: >>It knows the card is there : >> >>0:[0000:0002] SCSI expansion card >>8:[0000:0007] Acorn econet >> >>but then later >> >>scsi : 0 hosts >>scsi : detected total >> >>I'm confused. > >Are you sure you compiled the right driver into your kernel? If so, it looks >like the driver is buggy. This is using the kernel from the ftp site. thanks >p. > > > > -- garan @ digiserve . com unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Dec 21 00:56:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA32626 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 1997 00:56:33 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:25206 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <18299-625>; Sun, 21 Dec 1997 02:56:13 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970837-6776>; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 19:51:04 -0500 Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk ([194.131.104.13]:41794 "HELO golden.argonet.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970808-6776>; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 19:50:36 -0500 Received: from (earth) [158.152.208.192] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.81 #1) id 0xjYlM-0007U7-00; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 23:56:57 +0000 Message-ID: <349C681C.41C67EA6@causality.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 00:51:40 +0000 From: "Neil A. Carson" Reply-To: info@causality.com Organization: Causality Limited (London, UK) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; NetBSD 1.2G arm32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, port-arm32@netbsd.org Subject: EBSA 285 utilities Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Not all of this directly concerns Linux/RiscBSD, but some may be of use to users of the above board or the 21285 chip... An update for the ARM/PCI followers, Some information on the EBSA285 stuff: Angelboot, our 'ANGEL' upload protocol faker developed with Perihelion and Dave Rusling at DEC, will soon be available from our web page at http://www.causality.com. I gather that Dave may also be supplying copies elsewhere. We also have a bootloader for the EBSA285, providing bootp, tftp, nfs, hard disc, iso cd9660 etc bootloading available for licence cheaply, as a faster alternative to angelboot. Binary images of this may also be given away---mail info@causality.com (this is a human, not an automatic mailer) for more info. NetBSD is also now available for the 21285, and will be merged into the main arm32 source tree shortly: This goes very quickly, with hard disc transfers in excess of 10MB/sec, saturating 100BaseTX networks etc. If you want a copy early, again e-mail the above address. -- Causality information unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Dec 22 12:16:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA12774 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 12:16:39 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:16199 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <14229-627>; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 14:15:34 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970920-6773>; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 07:10:22 -0500 Received: from monarch.ja.net ([128.86.16.37]:55513 "EHLO monarch.ja.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970907-6773>; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 07:10:02 -0500 Received: from sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by monarch.ja.net with SPAM SMTP (PP); Sun, 21 Dec 1997 09:39:10 +0000 Received: from bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk by sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk with NRS SMTP (PP); Sun, 21 Dec 1997 09:39:07 +0000 Received: from by bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk; Sun, 21 Dec 97 09:36:32 GMT Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA03564; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 23:05:26 GMT From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id XAA00995; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 23:05:16 GMT Message-Id: <199712202305.XAA00995@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: scsi faults? the boot To: garan@digiserve.com (G a r a n) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 23:05:15 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19971220191819.00667944@digiserve.com> from "G a r a n" at Dec 20, 97 07:18:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-Envid: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<199712202305.XAA00995@raistlin.] Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO G a r a n writes: > It knows the card is there : > > 0:[0000:0002] SCSI expansion card > 8:[0000:0007] Acorn econet That has absolutely no bearing on whether the kernel has a driver in it for this or not. These messages are those obtained automatically from the expansion cards. > scsi : 0 hosts > scsi : detected total Have you tried inserting the acornscsi_mod.o module? _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/home.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Dec 22 13:54:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA13550 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 13:54:41 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:19267 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <12260-625>; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 15:53:34 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970791-6773>; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 08:48:18 -0500 Received: from server21.digital.fr ([193.56.15.21]:3322 "EHLO server21.digital.fr" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970856-6776>; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 08:47:59 -0500 Received: from mail.vbo.dec.com (mail.vbo.dec.com [16.36.208.34]) by server21.digital.fr (8.7.5/8.7) with ESMTP id OAA02517; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 14:52:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from vbormc.vbo.dec.com (vbormc.vbo.dec.com [16.36.208.94]) by mail.vbo.dec.com (8.8.6/8.7) with ESMTP id OAA16664; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 14:52:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from linux.reo.dec.com (linux.reo.dec.com [16.36.0.79]) by vbormc.vbo.dec.com (8.7.3/8.7) with ESMTP id PAA06024; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 15:37:23 +0100 Received: (from rusling@localhost) by linux.reo.dec.com (8.8.5/8.7.1) id NAA19924; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 13:49:34 GMT Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <349C681C.41C67EA6@causality.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 13:35:49 -0000 (GMT) From: "Ka'Plaagh" To: info@causality.com Subject: RE: EBSA 285 utilities Cc: port-arm32@netbsd.org, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Neil (or Mr Info), cool. We should meet up early next year so that I can grab copies of this and set up an EBSA-285 based BSD demonstration system here in Reading. I now have a FreeBSD 2.2.2a CD, so I _may_ even have installed it by then... Dave On 21-Dec-97 Neil A. Carson wrote: >Not all of this directly concerns Linux/RiscBSD, but some may be of use >to users of the above board or the 21285 chip... > >An update for the ARM/PCI followers, > >Some information on the EBSA285 stuff: Angelboot, our 'ANGEL' upload >protocol faker developed with Perihelion and Dave Rusling at DEC, >will soon be available from our web page at http://www.causality.com. >I gather that Dave may also be supplying copies elsewhere. > >We also have a bootloader for the EBSA285, providing bootp, tftp, nfs, >hard disc, iso cd9660 etc bootloading available for licence cheaply, as >a faster alternative to angelboot. Binary images of this may also >be given away---mail info@causality.com (this is a human, not an >automatic mailer) for more info. > >NetBSD is also now available for the 21285, and will be merged into the >main arm32 source tree shortly: This goes very quickly, with hard disc >transfers in excess of 10MB/sec, saturating 100BaseTX networks etc. If >you want a copy early, again e-mail the above address. > >-- >Causality information > > >unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- David A Rusling Consulting Engineer European Semiconductor Applications Digital Equipment Co Ltd., Engineering PO Box 121, Imperial Way, Worton Grange Reading RG2 0TU Linux, Alpha, StrongArm, PCI Tel: UK-(0)1734-204380 Fax: UK-(0)1734-203133 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Dec 24 20:01:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA01008 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 1997 20:01:27 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:41999 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11926-625>; Wed, 24 Dec 1997 22:00:47 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971215-1477>; Tue, 23 Dec 1997 15:31:10 -0500 Received: from hades.itl.net ([194.145.1.31]:53867 "HELO super.net.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971231-6776>; Tue, 23 Dec 1997 15:18:08 -0500 Received: from pingu.itl.net [194.145.15.217] by super.net.uk with smtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xkasV-00030k-00; Tue, 23 Dec 1997 20:24:36 +0000 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19971223201708.0066f5ac@digiserve.com> X-Sender: garan@digiserve.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 20:17:08 +0000 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu From: G a r a n Subject: those partitions X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO hi Russell mentioned his main card was acorn SCSI and seeing as SCSIDM offer either an all riscos drive, or some riscos with the infuriating and seemingly undeletable riscix table afterwards, I'd be interested to know how exactly anyone manages to create a riscos partition with free space afterwards using an Acorn SCSI card. I've tried and tried. Incidently, why the weird message from fdisk on the root floppy when trying to write partitions... (I thought I was sorted with fdisk!) Just formatting the whole disc as free space gives me free space in Partman but then, despite the 'new' option not being shaded, It won't let me create partitions.... I can't believe I'm the only one with Acorn SCSI (although I'm perfectly willing to believe I'm the only one stupid enough to be unable to use it...) Thanks Garan Jenkin -- garan @ digiserve . com unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Dec 24 20:47:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA01360 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 1997 20:47:39 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:9584 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11332-626>; Wed, 24 Dec 1997 22:46:48 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971857-1477>; Wed, 24 Dec 1997 15:08:59 -0500 Received: from post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.154]:39100 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971312-1477>; Wed, 24 Dec 1997 14:59:10 -0500 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa1019432; 24 Dec 97 19:59 GMT Received: from paddington.london.uk.eu.org [::ffff:127.0.0.1] by paddington.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #2) id 0xkxAE-00046p-00; Wed, 24 Dec 1997 20:12:22 +0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: new patch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 20:12:22 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hi. I made a new kernel patch, to be applied on top of my last 2.0.33 one. This fixes a few problems, particularly with support for older machines. Get it at http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/phil/armlinux p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Dec 25 13:09:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA06844 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 13:09:52 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:32536 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11855-623>; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 15:09:06 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971280-1477>; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 08:07:12 -0500 Received: from monarch.ja.net ([128.86.16.37]:63865 "EHLO monarch.ja.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971272-1477>; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 08:06:47 -0500 Received: from sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by monarch.ja.net with SPAM SMTP (PP); Thu, 25 Dec 1997 13:02:20 +0000 Received: from bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk by sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk with NRS SMTP (PP); Thu, 25 Dec 1997 13:02:17 +0000 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup0.cymru.net) by bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk; Thu, 25 Dec 97 12:59:41 GMT Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA13479; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 01:07:30 GMT From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id BAA00336; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 01:07:23 GMT Message-Id: <199712250107.BAA00336@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: new patch To: Philip.Blundell@pobox.com (Philip Blundell) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 01:07:22 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Dec 24, 97 08:12:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-Envid: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<199712250107.BAA00336@raistlin.] Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Philip Blundell writes: > I made a new kernel patch, to be applied on top of my last 2.0.33 one. This > fixes a few problems, particularly with support for older machines. No Phil. Your patch does the following: * Changes the help descriptions for the ethernet cards. * Moves the kernel link address back to 0x1800000, which is where it was originally. * Unnecessarily ndoes my change to the 8390 driver to make it run faster (only slightly mind you), and introduces a bug into this area. I will not detail the bug though. * Changes a few #definitions to to with processor and machine type with no overall effect, especially the processor definitions. Do you really understand the meaning of the __arm2__ __arm3__ etc *compiler* definitions? * Removes *all* support for the binutils currently supplied with the ARM Linux distribution. * Removes the floppy code's ARM architecture dependence. * Slightly optimises the __xchg() function in terms of memory data space. * Unnecessarily changes the decompressor code. If your compiler can't hack that, then throw it away - it's not ANSI conformant, and must be broken. * Various spelling corrections. In effect, what Phil is trying to do is to remove as many changes as possible to the driver code that has moved from the drivers directories to the arch/arm/drivers heirarchy. What is the point in reversing some of the changes made to *improve* the performance of the 2.0 kernels when we're moving towards the 2.1 kernels? There have been *no* bug fixes in this patch whatsoever, in fact, there have been bugs introduced in this patch! I strongly advise anyone NOT to apply this patch at all! _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/home.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Dec 25 17:06:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA08210 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 17:06:55 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:52033 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <15915-623>; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 19:06:13 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970877-1474>; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 12:04:25 -0500 Received: from post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.154]:53064 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970804-1477>; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 12:03:53 -0500 Received: from succexpr.demon.co.uk ([158.152.208.192]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa1019471; 25 Dec 97 17:02 GMT Message-ID: <34A225C8.446B9B3D@causality.com> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 09:22:16 +0000 From: "Neil A. Carson" Organization: Causality Limited (London, UK) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; NetBSD 1.2G arm32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin CC: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: new patch References: <199712250107.BAA00336@raistlin.armlinux.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Russel, not working on Christmas Day are you :-) Neil unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Dec 25 19:07:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA08965 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 19:07:38 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:43562 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <13574-627>; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 21:07:05 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970855-1477>; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 14:05:03 -0500 Received: from philip@localhost (fake: stdin ("HELO localhost" ident: "uid#33108@localhost")) by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970865-1477>; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 14:04:36 -0500 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 14:04:35 -0500 (EST) From: Philip Blundell To: Russell King cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: new patch (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO > No Phil. Your patch does the following: > > * Changes the help descriptions for the ethernet cards. That's true. I hadn't particularly intended for that to leak into the patch. > * Moves the kernel link address back to 0x1800000, which is where it was > originally. Yes, on your advice. > * Changes a few #definitions to to with processor and machine type with > no overall > effect, especially the processor definitions. > Do you really understand the meaning of the __arm2__ __arm3__ > etc *compiler* > definitions? Yes. gcc 2.8 doesn't define __arm2__ or __arm3__ if you give it the -mapcs= and -mcpu= options, so with the old #ifdefs you ended up getting support for no CPUs at all. You do still get __arm3__ defined with -m3, but you also get complaints about this being an obsolete option. > * Removes *all* support for the binutils currently supplied with the ARM > Linux > distribution. Since the support was 50% gone already, this strikes me as little hardship. The binutils with this problem fixed has been available for months. > * Removes the floppy code's ARM architecture dependence. Why, exactly, do you feel this is bad? I'm slightly confused as to which patch you're talking about here. The one I had last week removed the architecture dependence, and your reaction to that was "good". Unfortunately I goofed slightly and the result wouldn't compile properly (and I left out some debug stuff). This newer patch remedies that; I don't understand your objection. > * Slightly optimises the __xchg() function in terms of memory data > space. ... and, more importantly, allows you to compile armksyms.c on a5k machines. > * Unnecessarily changes the decompressor code. > If your compiler can't hack that, then throw it away - it's not ANSI > conformant, and must be broken. It's gcc, and I don't know of any alternative. > * Various spelling corrections. I can't see that they do any harm either, though I agree that the world won't end without them. > In effect, what Phil is trying to do is to remove as many changes as > possible to the driver code that has moved from the drivers directories > to the arch/arm/drivers heirarchy. That's true, and last time I posted a patch to do this you were all in favour. > What is the point in reversing some of the changes made to *improve* the > performance of the 2.0 kernels when we're moving towards the 2.1 > kernels? Because the fewer gratuitous changes we have, the less work there is to do with the merge. If you want to fix 8390.c to go faster, then since it's not an ARM specific change there's no need to make another copy of the file. > There have been *no* bug fixes in this patch whatsoever, in fact, there If that's your opinion, fine. Merry Christmas, by the way. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Dec 25 21:28:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA09816 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 21:28:25 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:65042 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <12012-625>; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 23:27:57 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970885-1474>; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 16:24:04 -0500 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1347 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970869-1477>; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 16:22:40 -0500 Received: (from alan@localhost) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) id VAA00429; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 21:23:42 GMT From: Alan Cox Message-Id: <199712252123.VAA00429@snowcrash.cymru.net> Subject: Re: new patch (fwd) To: philip@vger.rutgers.edu (Philip Blundell) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 21:23:41 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux@arm.uk.linux.org, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Dec 25, 97 02:04:35 pm Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO > Yes. gcc 2.8 doesn't define __arm2__ or __arm3__ if you give it the > -mapcs= and -mcpu= options, so with the old #ifdefs you ended up getting > support for no CPUs at all. You do still get __arm3__ defined with -m3, > but you also get complaints about this being an obsolete option. It may be a good idea to make these CONFIG_ARM2 CONFIG_ARM3 CONFIG_ARMx as thats one way to be sure the compiler isnt going to bite you again in the future. > with the merge. If you want to fix 8390.c to go faster, then since it's > not an ARM specific change there's no need to make another copy of the > file. Also pass the changes to 8390.c on to its maintainer (Paul Gortmaker) and to me. I've no idea if your 8390 changes are go faster items or not but the original 8390 and some of the clones are incredibly touchy about how they are prodded which is one reason the linux driver isnt absoutely optimised. There should be nothing now other than the Apple Mac which can't use the generic 8390.c (and the fixes for that will get merged soon). Alan unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Dec 25 23:20:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA10580 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 23:20:26 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:50032 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <4833-627>; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 01:20:03 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970883-1477>; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 18:16:48 -0500 Received: from philip@localhost (fake: stdin ("HELO localhost" ident: "uid#33108@localhost")) by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970903-1474>; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 18:16:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 18:16:02 -0500 (EST) From: Philip Blundell To: Alan Cox cc: linux@arm.uk.linux.org, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: new patch (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199712252123.VAA00429@snowcrash.cymru.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO On Thu, 25 Dec 1997, Alan Cox wrote: > > Yes. gcc 2.8 doesn't define __arm2__ or __arm3__ if you give it the > > -mapcs= and -mcpu= options, so with the old #ifdefs you ended up getting > > support for no CPUs at all. You do still get __arm3__ defined with -m3, > > but you also get complaints about this being an obsolete option. > > It may be a good idea to make these CONFIG_ARM2 CONFIG_ARM3 CONFIG_ARMx > as thats one way to be sure the compiler isnt going to bite you again > in the future. That's true. In fact we already have a config option for CPU family, and the precise CPU is detected at boot time, so I suspect these conditionals are superfluous. > > with the merge. If you want to fix 8390.c to go faster, then since it's > > not an ARM specific change there's no need to make another copy of the > > file. > > Also pass the changes to 8390.c on to its maintainer (Paul Gortmaker) > and to me. I've no idea if your 8390 changes are go faster items or > not but the original 8390 and some of the clones are incredibly touchy Actually, the change in question that Russell made was just replacing the irq2dev_map[] with the dev_id parameter passed to irq handlers, and I think this got done in 2.1 some time ago. There may be something else I missed though, going on his cryptic comment about `a bug' - I'll look more closely later, p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Dec 26 14:49:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA15737 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 14:49:37 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:17534 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1504-623>; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 16:49:21 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970850-1477>; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 09:47:27 -0500 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:2190 "HELO paddington.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <970890-1477>; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 09:47:02 -0500 Received: from paddington.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by paddington.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #4) id 0xlbxt-0001xZ-00; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 15:46:21 +0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu cc: port-arm32@netbsd.org Subject: binutils Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 15:46:21 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hi. As a belated Christmas present, I've made a patch against HJ's binutils 2.8.1.0.18, which is (as usual) in the directory http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/phil/armlinux/ You can get binutils 2.8.1.0.18 itself from ftp://tsx-11.mit.edu/pub/linux/packages/GCC/private/tofu This does: - Disable support for disassembling Thumb instructions to stop objdump dumping core. - Merge support for NetBSD/ARM and PIC code. - Preliminary ELF support. You can now configure and build the binutils, ld and gas for target `arm-elf' or `arm-linuxelf' (there is no difference). Support for ELF is still rather sketchy. In particular, PIC code doesn't work yet (the assembler knows how to generate the instructions but the BFD doesn't know how to generate the needed relocs). PIC for a.out works though. If anybody has too much time on their hands, there are a couple of things that need looking at, aside from the obvious one of implementing the missing ELF relocs: - At the moment, there are two BFD source files for ARM a.out - arm-aout.c and aoutarm32.c. The latter was written by the BSD people to add PIC support. These two really need to be merged back together. - Disabling Thumb support in the disassembler is obviously not a good long-term solution, so someone ought to look at that bug too. Enjoy. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Dec 26 16:21:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA16254 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 16:21:58 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:64581 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <4197-623>; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 18:21:59 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971033-1474>; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 11:19:49 -0500 Received: from post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.154]:50983 "HELO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971030-1477>; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 11:19:32 -0500 Received: from treblig.demon.co.uk ([194.222.210.232]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa1022210; 26 Dec 97 16:15 GMT Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 16:12:16 +0000 (GMT) From: Dave Gilbert X-Sender: gilbertd@tardis.home.dave To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: EGCS building kernel (from Alpha!) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hi, I'm cross compiling kernels for ARM now from my new Alpha - and it nearly works! This is using the EGCS-971215 (updated/hacked gcc) with a small patch. It boots fine - unfortunatly it is suffering from nyetworking. (Packets come in - I don't think any go out). I know there were some EGCS problems building x86 kernels, but I thought that was due to the way they had thrown some assembler in the x86 version. Anyway - more news when it works..... Anyone who wantys to know the appropriate fixes just ask. Dave P.S. make Image from clean takes 3mins 21 seconds :-) ---------------------------------------------------- Man can not live - Dr. David Alan Gilbert - gro.gilbert @ treblig.org by bread alone. He- ---------------------------------------------------- needs chocolate. - unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Dec 26 16:59:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA16453 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 16:59:38 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:57688 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <13894-626>; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 18:59:22 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971045-1474>; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 11:57:17 -0500 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:2280 "HELO paddington.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971043-1477>; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 11:56:53 -0500 Received: from paddington.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by paddington.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #4) id 0xld5H-0002QC-00; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 16:58:03 +0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: elf gcc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 16:58:02 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hi. I hacked a version of gcc to go with the new binutils. The patch (against gcc 971128, but it should apply reasonably cleanly to any recent gcc) is at http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/phil/armlinux/gcc-diff-arm-linuxelf-971226.gz You need to configure the resulting gcc for an `arm-linuxelf' target. `arm-elf' isn't supported yet. I'd be interested to hear how people get on with this. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Dec 27 18:30:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA25318 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 1997 18:30:28 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:7032 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1486-625>; Sat, 27 Dec 1997 20:02:48 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971462-1477>; Sat, 27 Dec 1997 12:58:21 -0500 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:4225 "HELO paddington.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <971482-1474>; Sat, 27 Dec 1997 12:57:00 -0500 Received: from paddington.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by paddington.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #4) id 0xlyuz-0004DS-00; Sat, 27 Dec 1997 16:16:53 +0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: bootloader Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 16:16:52 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hi. Good news; the new bootloader.arc solves the `invalid compressed data' problem on my A5000. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From Philip.Blundell@pobox.com Tue Dec 30 16:40:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: from paddington.london.uk.eu.org (exim@tazenda.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.239]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id QAA18540 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 16:40:17 GMT Received: from paddington.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by paddington.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #4) id 0xn306-0003rD-00; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 14:50:34 +0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Matthew Wilcox cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: new patch In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Dec 1997 13:02:18 GMT." <199712301302.NAA16938@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 14:50:34 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Status: RO >Hmm... I may be able to shed some light here. I finally got a prerelease >of gcc 2.8 installed, recompiled it with itself, everything seemed great, >examined some of the assembler produced and it was significantly better. >Recompiled my kernel with it and now it hangs after it prints `Now >booting kernel'. Naturally I have a backup kernel for this eventuality ;-) > >Perhaps this patch fixes this. I'm going to try it out. The gcc 2.8 prerelease sometimes has problems with `short' values that aren't on 32-bit boundaries. To work around this you need to add `-mshort-load-bytes' to your compiler options. I'd be surprised if this was causing your hangs though. I'm not aware of anything my patch changed that would fix your problems, I'm afraid. I've had kernels compiled with the new gcc working on my A5000 but I don't have a RiscPC to test on. p. From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Dec 30 22:12:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA20654 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 22:12:49 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:35442 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <4814-626>; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 00:11:50 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971075-8509>; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 16:16:10 -0500 Received: from odin.waw.com ([194.51.88.249]:9557 "EHLO odin.waw.com" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971093-8509>; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 16:04:04 -0500 Received: from odin.waw.com (vincent@mail.waw.com [194.51.88.252]) by odin.waw.com (8.8.7/8.8.7/waw) with SMTP id WAA22573 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 22:08:36 +0100 Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 22:08:36 +0100 (GMT+0100) From: Vincent Renardias To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Tool for reading adfs floppies/fs under Linux? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hello, I guess it's a bit off-topic here, but as the subject states I'd like to find a way to read ADFS floppies under linux(i386). Is there any tool/kernel patch available for this purpose? Cordialement, -- - Vincent RENARDIAS vincent@{waw.com,pipo.com,debian.org} - - Debian/GNU Linux: Pipo: WAW: - - http://www.fr.debian.org http://www.pipo.com http://www.waw.com - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - "La fonctionnalite Son Visuel vous delivre des avertissements visuels." - - [Message durant l'installation de Windows95] :wq unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From Philip.Blundell@pobox.com Wed Dec 31 20:20:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: from paddington.london.uk.eu.org (exim@tazenda.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.239]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id UAA28535 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 20:20:03 GMT Received: from paddington.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by paddington.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #4) id 0xnVXX-0007wa-00; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 21:18:59 +0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Matthew Wilcox cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: new patch In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 31 Dec 1997 19:52:34 GMT." <199712311952.TAA28297@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 21:18:58 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Status: RO >Well, applying your patch /does/ stop it hanging. It now gets as far as >inserting the FPemulator then: Ah, that might be the "#ifdef __arm6__" problem, actually. >I'll try the short-load-bytes option. that sounds like a plausible idea. Yes. Dave and I are discussing with the rest of the GCC people what to do about it in the long term. p. From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Dec 31 20:29:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA28551 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 20:29:25 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:50783 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <9902-625>; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 22:24:16 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971271-8509>; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 14:58:37 -0500 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:1351 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971256-8512>; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 14:52:04 -0500 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id TAA28297; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 19:52:35 GMT From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199712311952.TAA28297@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: new patch To: Philip.Blundell@pobox.com (Philip Blundell) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 19:52:34 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Dec 30, 97 02:50:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO > > >Hmm... I may be able to shed some light here. I finally got a prerelease > >of gcc 2.8 installed, recompiled it with itself, everything seemed great, > >examined some of the assembler produced and it was significantly better. > >Recompiled my kernel with it and now it hangs after it prints `Now > >booting kernel'. Naturally I have a backup kernel for this eventuality ;-) > > > >Perhaps this patch fixes this. I'm going to try it out. > > The gcc 2.8 prerelease sometimes has problems with `short' values that aren't > on 32-bit boundaries. To work around this you need to add > `-mshort-load-bytes' to your compiler options. I'd be surprised if this was > causing your hangs though. > > I'm not aware of anything my patch changed that would fix your problems, > I'm afraid. I've had kernels compiled with the new gcc working on my A5000 > but I don't have a RiscPC to test on. Well, applying your patch /does/ stop it hanging. It now gets as far as inserting the FPemulator then: rc.sysinit: memory violation at pc=0x03fffda8, lr=0xbffffd14 (bad address = 0x03fffda8, code 3) rc.sysinit: memory violation at pc=0x03fffd4c, lr=0x6000pcc8 (bad address = 0x03fffd4c, code 3) init: memory violation at pc=0x03fffb9c, lr=0xbffffb38 (bad address = 0x03fffb9c, code 3) INIT: PANIC: Segmentation violation! giving up.. I'll try the short-load-bytes option. that sounds like a plausible idea. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Dec 31 20:49:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA28737 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 20:49:56 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:15110 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <9646-625>; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 22:49:31 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <971307-8512>; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 15:26:31 -0500 Received: from odie.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.202.98]:1425 "EHLO odie.barnet.ac.uk" ident: "willy") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <971384-8509>; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 15:15:21 -0500 Received: (from willy@localhost) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) id UAA28518; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 20:15:49 GMT From: Matthew Wilcox Message-Id: <199712312015.UAA28518@odie.barnet.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Tool for reading adfs floppies/fs under Linux? To: vincent@waw.com (Vincent Renardias) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 20:15:49 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Vincent Renardias" at Dec 30, 97 10:08:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO > I guess it's a bit off-topic here, but as the subject states I'd like to > find a way to read ADFS floppies under linux(i386). Is there any > tool/kernel patch available for this purpose? It's certainly possible to read ADFS hard discs under ARMLinux. The problem which initially discouraged me from trying ADFS floppies (which I would like to ba able to do) is that according to the manpage, there's no assigned floppy device with the appropriate parameters. You need 1024-byte sectors. The man page mentioned resetting the parameters of unused devices with an ioctl, but I haven't got round to trying it out yet. The patch to implement the ADFS filesystem is part of the armlinux patch which is available from ftp.arm.uk.linux.org:/armlinux/ but it is not available separately. I suggested to someone a while back that this would be something which could be added to the 2.1 development early as it should be more-or-less independant of any other necessary changes, but this has not happened. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Jan 5 06:55:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: from nic.funet.fi (nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA01552 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 06:55:16 GMT Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:13337 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "root") by nic.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10564-27418>; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 01:53:30 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <970794-12312>; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 18:51:44 -0500 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1984 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <970791-12312>; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 18:51:29 -0500 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id XAA02233 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 23:52:35 GMT Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA00264 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 23:51:48 GMT From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id AAA10849 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 00:27:12 GMT Message-Id: <199712310027.AAA10849@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: My email addresses To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 00:27:11 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hi all! As some people may have already realised, I have some new email addresses: rmk@arm.uk.linux.org - me linux@arm.uk.linux.org - linux stuff webmaster@arm.uk.linux.org - web stuff These ones I can't read from work. My soton ones: rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk - effectively the same as rmk@arm.uk.linux.org, but I can read it occasionally while at work. This will remain for the time being. rmk92@ecs.soton.ac.uk - my dying account, which should not be used any more. If you do have a reference to it, change it for one of the others. I leave it to your disgression as to which to use, but don't mail all of them. Max 2. I don't really want to download your mail too many times. ;) _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/home.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From linux@arm.uk.linux.org Mon Jan 5 18:19:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by odie.barnet.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA06746 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 18:19:19 GMT Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (dialup1.cymru.net [163.164.160.65]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id SAA20920; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 18:19:23 GMT Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA00268; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 23:51:49 GMT From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id XAA10579; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 23:52:40 GMT Message-Id: <199712302352.XAA10579@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: new patch To: Philip.Blundell@pobox.com (Philip Blundell) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 23:52:39 +0000 (GMT) Cc: willy@odie.barnet.ac.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Dec 30, 97 02:50:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO BTW, for those of you using the new GCC, something that has been discovered by Dave Gilbert: When compiling the kernel, turn off some of the optimisations, specifically the one that allows GCC/EGCS to assume that all structures are word aligned. GCC will try to load a short using a LDR with a shift. EG, to access bytes 12 and 13 only of a structure, GCC will use by default: ldr r0, [r1, #14] mov r0, r0, lsr #16 This means that if r1 isn't word aligned (it certainly isn't for IP ethernet packets in this case), the LDR picks up the wrong data. Does anyone know if this is a legal optimisation that the compiler is making? BTW, don't say that it should be word aligned. If that structure was word aligned, then the IP structures won't be, which will be even worse. Blame Xerox for that one! _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/home.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ |