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In message <1.5.4.32.19970831192808.0067a608@digiserve.com> you wrote:

: The plan to go scsi has failed due to lack of cash.  However, can I plug
: another IDE hard disc onot my RiscPC?  I have one small one already and a CD
: rom drive.  How many devices can it take?  Also, I'd have no room in my
: single slice to put it!

Nominally, yes.  ATAPI CDROM drives aren't actually devices according to the
IDE bus, however I'm not sure how, and I'm not sure if it is actually
possible given Acorn's IDE bus.  If you've got a podule slot spare, I can
recommend drilling two holes in the bay, and fixing a HD there.  That's how
I've managed to get three HDs, a CD ROM drive, a DAT drive and a podule in
two slices.

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>   Probably some redhat specific sufff would be more useful though, as 
> redhat (What we use) is in many ways quite different from other Linux 
> distributions like Slackware.

You could always start with the Red Hat manual...

p.


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I have just downloaded ARM Linux and have follow all the instructions I
could find,
but I can't get it to install.  The first problem was getting the base and
RPMS directories
visible to the installation program which I did by manually mounting my
partition during the install process (after it had been formatted) and
copying files over from floppies
(using a friends Linux machine to copy them onto ext2 format discs)

I then tried to get the installation program to finish installing but all I
got was a 'Fatal I/O' message. Any way, how should I do it?



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Michael Sharman                    email:  msharman@postoffice.utas.edu.au

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Hi.

Does anybody have the results of running lmbench on a StrongARM-based
Linux machine?  If so I'd be very interested to see them.

Thanks
Phil

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> The plan to go scsi has failed due to lack of cash.  However, can I plug
> another IDE hard disc onot my RiscPC?  I have one small one already and a CD
> rom drive.  How many devices can it take?  Also, I'd have no room in my
> single slice to put it!

 Sorry, 2 devices is the limit for the motherboard IDE connector.

Your other option is to buy a cheap large IDE HD, and throw away your 
small one.

Ale.

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Hi.  I was wondering what the current status of the EBSA110 eval board is
with regards to arm-linux.  My company has one of these boards, and we
would like to use it to run a free Unix so we can test some code on it.
The arm-linux web pages mentions some things about the EBSA, but nothing
specific.  Is there some documents somewhere describing the process of
getting Linux on this board, and a pointer to a kernel?  Thanks in
advance, and please include me in any replies as I am not subscribed to
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Kyle Mestery
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Kyle A.D. Mestery wrote:

> Hi.  I was wondering what the current status of the EBSA110 eval board is
> with regards to arm-linux.  My company has one of these boards, and we
> would like to use it to run a free Unix so we can test some code on it.
> The arm-linux web pages mentions some things about the EBSA, but nothing
> specific.  Is there some documents somewhere describing the process of
> getting Linux on this board, and a pointer to a kernel?  Thanks in
> advance, and please include me in any replies as I am not subscribed to
> the list.

I also have one of these boards. Does anyone have linux running one?

Mike Cruse
Conservation Through Innovation

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On Tue, 2 Sep 1997, Mike Cruse wrote:

> > Hi.  I was wondering what the current status of the EBSA110 eval board is
> > with regards to arm-linux.  My company has one of these boards, and we
> > would like to use it to run a free Unix so we can test some code on it.
> > The arm-linux web pages mentions some things about the EBSA, but nothing
> 
> I also have one of these boards. Does anyone have linux running one?
> 
Me too. Any chnace there is a bootable image out there?

						-Rich


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Hi,
  Our friend Kyle who was asking about the EBSA earlier pointed
out to me that Digital have just announced the SA1100 - a StrongARM
with LCD controller and a heck of a lot of serial ports (including
one fast enough for USB).  Nice chip, I bet it would run Linux very nicely.

Have a wonder round Digitals web site for it.

Dave

P.S. Kyle actually seems to have an EBSA-285 not a 110.

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From: Andy Fawcett <tap@lspace.org>
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Since I've just managed to trash my working installation of the 'old'
setup on the A5000 (kernel 1.3.35), I was wondering how the new stuff
was coming along.

I haven't looked for a few days, but the last time I was at the FTP site
there didn't seem to be all I needed for an A5000 installation (new
setup).

Could somebody give some indication of when everything will be
available, since I don't want to reinstall the old version to find a
newer setup there a few days later...

Thanks,
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  Hi,

     I've been playing about with the sound module lately, and I've
noticed that the sound crackles when a HD or CD is accessed. (I have a
420MB conner and an ATAPI CD on the motherboard IDE connector). Is this an
interrupt latency thing, or is there maybe some buffer in the sound system
that needs to be made a little larger? 

  I don't get any crackle under RiscOS, so it's not just some sort of 
grounding problem.

Ta,
	Ale.

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Hi all!

Well, it would appear that the ARM Linux Web pages are currently off line,
due to a machine requiring a total refit (new motherboard and hard drive
I think soton said).  I can't do anything about it at the moment, however,
I'm trying to get something arranged to give more information at the
following address:

http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk92/armlinux.html

Until I get it sorted out, please check the above address for more
information.

Ultimately, the web pages will move onto another machine, and this
address will then display a warning with a link to the correct address.

This transition may also be fraught with problems.  However, if you find
that after a week of the warning and the real pages are not apparant, then
please mail me.

The FTP server is still available however at this time.
   _____
  |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+-
  |   |        Russell King        rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk        --- ---
  | | | |    http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/home.html      /  /  |
  | +-+-+                                                     --- -+-
  /   |               THE developer of ARM Linux              |+| /|\
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    +-+-+ -------------------------------------------------  /\\\  |

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Hello!
Hi, folks. I like to tell you that i am proud seeing all the helping hands
bringing the #Spirit of
a GNU Generation# to our beloved ARM machines. Since the early days in 1986
when the
powerfull RISC based machine, still in the same place today, more then 10
years later, it was
my hope to find a UNIX ported that remained affordable after all
devolopment and software
engineering, etc. that is needed for running that breed of OS.

Eventhough i am glad to finally found one that prossibly could bring new
live to Archi, it made
me sad it took so long, and I am not able to share the enthusiastic
programmers spirit, -cause 
i do now nothing about coding. Please could one answer me? tehse are my
questions:

1. How can everybody (especially me, cause sometimes I manage to find out
what is needed 
  to turn on a computer. Not much, uuuh?) help suppport FS-Projects that
hande UNIX ports
  free for all using Acorn AR"M based HW?

2. Is there a set of Images (fitting my low density floppy drive) for
chcking out if the A440/4	    (nearly upgraded to A5000 features) can
perform the boot process and initialize the install     procedure for any
of the freely available flavours of uni*_os for that machine.

3. Could it be that there is a similar machine already up and running unix?
Ok. Not the acorn
commercial version as long as it will not become public domain.

4. What versions are currently ported (best if known that it can be used
with the A440): FreeBSD,
    NetBSD, Linux, Minix, etc.?

5. What adress and filenames are for minimum trial run needed\(I think
DD-Disks hold 600 to 720k
    max. but the last one is only supported with add-on drivers) if there
is a set of boot disks for this
    task.

Yes! You guessed right: I want to see for myself. Is there a chance to run
a unix on my machine
and will it be fast enough (yet ARM3 equipped) to allow reliable work at
accurate speed.
Help me,if you can ,pleae+


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Hi Russell, 

The 2.0.31pre9 kernel and new root disc (0907) worked fine
during the install.

However now I have another problem.

The install bootloader part of the install failed, so I
followed the instructions in the FAQ and created a
/etc/boot.conf.  But when I run loadmap -v it reports that
/dev/root doesn't exist.

Can anyone help with this?

g

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I have been trying to get Arm Linux running on my EBSA-110 Board.

I load bootp into memory, and execute it, I set up a bootp server on my   
network, that assigns the
EBSA-110 board an IP address, and then tries to load and execute a   
specified file defined on the bootp server I believe..

I have a few questions.

1) After my EBSA-110 has An IP address, what should be loaded? a Linux   
Kernel, or a Boot/Load Module?

2) Are these binaries (a boot loader/linux kernel for EBSA-110) available   
all ready to use? Do they need to be compiled from source?

3) If source needs to be compiled, where is a "free" compiler at, what   
platform does it need to be run on, where can
   the source files be obtained?

If anyone can help me on these few items I would greatly appreciate it..

I have been stuck at this point for a very long time..
I hope these questions do not seem of a stupid nature, I joined the   
mailing list yesterday..

I have been trying to learn how the EBSA-110 works, and I also want to   
get Linux running in it, but I have not been
very successful as of late..



Thank You.

 -M Short
mshort@vividimage.com

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> are there anyone that can recommend me using any other tool than gcc for
> compiling the kernel? I have access to ARM Software Development Toolkit
> under Windows NT.
> 
> The reason why I'm asking is that I have heard that there's a lot of
> heavily dependant in-line stuff for gcc in the kernel sources.

That's right.  The kernel is extremely dependent on gcc, porting it to
another C compiler is non-trivial.  Your best bet is to run GCC on your
WinNT machine.  Try
ftp://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/packages/gnu/cygnus/gnu-win32/

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Olof Backing wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> are there anyone that can recommend me using any other tool than gcc for
> compiling the kernel? I have access to ARM Software Development Toolkit
> under Windows NT.
> 
> The reason why I'm asking is that I have heard that there's a lot of
> heavily dependant in-line stuff for gcc in the kernel sources.

I think thats true and on that basis I think it would be a big job to try it.
Build gcc for cross compilation and it will do the trick, although I don't
know what the issues are with doing it from Win NT.

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> The reason why I'm asking is that I have heard that there's a lot of
> heavily dependant in-line stuff for gcc in the kernel sources.

Yep there is a lot of gcc dependant extension use, embedded assembly code
and other more subtle things - the code is optimised in general to make best
use of the way gcc generates code.

Alan

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>The reason why I'm asking is that I have heard that there's a lot of
>heavily dependant in-line stuff for gcc in the kernel sources.

That's correct.  You'll have a hard time getting it to compile with anything 
else.  Why do you want to; maybe there is another way to do what you're after.

p.


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I finally managed to get the kernel cross-compiling correctly on my 6x86
machine, by shoving in a few printk()'s where the dma functions would
normally go. However, now I've got it compiling OK, when I try running the
kernel, it abrupts halts, saying:

*CUT*
started kswapd v 1.4.2.2
Keyboard driver v1.06. (id=1 English)
*CUT*

It doesn't appear to be doing anything, and the keyboard interrupt also
appears to be dead - i.e. hitting caps/num/scroll lock doesn't do
anything.
There's no error messages either. My first guess was that my Watford IDE
interface was causing trouble, but blacklisting it didn't help any.
Anybody know what's up?
-- James Craig <jcraig@mad.scientist.com>


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I am having problems with my installation of ARM-Linux on my Acorn RiscPC

I have a the kernel booting, and then I insert my root disk, and press   
return.
There seems to be 2 parts of the installation..

the REDHAT setup begins and asks me to specify where to install from:

I choose IDE (ATAPI CD-ROM)

My cdrom is mounted as read only and then it seems to check the Volume   
label
and tell me that redhart linux is not on my cd-rom.

I have downloaded the /distrib/Redhat directory from the arm-linux
ftp archive.. I have made 3 CD's with the Redhat install files..

And I am frustrated now..


I do have a network card.. so maybe I could install through NFS..

I choose an install method and get to insert the supplement disk..
after it loads I can press F2 and get to a command prompt..

I try to mount my CDROM, but I can not get it to work, I keep getting an   
error saying
it can not mount because it is a read only file system..

I do this..

#mknod /dev/hdb b 3 64
#mkdir /cdrom
#mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdb /cdrom

then I get the error message..

If I could get the cdrom to mount, I might be able to get RedHat   
Installed..

I have been using the install text that is on the ftp server..
it has been most helpful..

anyhow..

If anyone knows how I can get my CD-rom to mount properly,
or how I can efficiently install REdhat on my RiscPC I would
greatly appreciate it..


 -Mike Short
mshort@vividimage.com

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Well, thanks to some help from Dave Gilbert, I finally got ARM linux
running on my A3000. Now I've got the fun of getting a distribution of
some sort installed from a 720K floppy. I've already managed to get sash,
the stand-alone shell compiled and running, so I guess I could probably
manage using that. Any suggestions on a good way of installing everything
else, given that I've got no ethernet, and the A3000s serial ports aren't
supported by the kernel?

-- James Craig <jcraig@mad.scientist.com>



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James Craig writes:
> *CUT*
> started kswapd v 1.4.2.2
> Keyboard driver v1.06. (id=1 English)
> *CUT*
> 
> It doesn't appear to be doing anything, and the keyboard interrupt also
> appears to be dead - i.e. hitting caps/num/scroll lock doesn't do
> anything.
> There's no error messages either. My first guess was that my Watford IDE
> interface was causing trouble, but blacklisting it didn't help any.
> Anybody know what's up?

I wouldn't have thought that the Watford IDE interface is the cause of this
since the kernel's getting that far.

The next thing that happens after the keyboard driver is the printer/serial
drivers are initialised.  Since you're using an A3000 (and they're in
progress of being ported), if you configure them at the moment, you'll
get the ones for the A5000, which will cause the machine to hang, requiring
a reset.

If you configure the kernel without printer/serial ports, then it should
boot.  (Please note however, that the RedHat installer is unable to run in
4MB).
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  |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+-
  |   |        Russell King        rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk        --- ---
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  | +-+-+                                                     --- -+-
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Michael Short writes:
> I have downloaded the /distrib/Redhat directory from the arm-linux
> ftp archive.. I have made 3 CD's with the Redhat install files..

The directory structure (which I would have expected to be on the
RedHat web site - there are links off my pages to their site) on the
CD Rom MUST be:

/RedHat/RPMS
/RedHat/base
/RedHat/instimage

If you don't have this, then the CD ROM will not be recognised.  Let
me know if it isn't on the RedHat site and I'll ammend my pages.
[btw, before you complain why I haven't done that yet it's because
 contary to what everyone seems to believe, I don't have a fast
 permanent network connection to browse the web].

> I do have a network card.. so maybe I could install through NFS..
> I choose an install method and get to insert the supplement disk..
> after it loads I can press F2 and get to a command prompt..

Erm, no.  If you choose NFS, you don't get to use the supplemental
disk.  It instead mounts the machine name you give it, and runs the
second stage installer from there.  (Alt-F2 to switch to command
prompt).

> I try to mount my CDROM, but I can not get it to work, I keep getting an   
> error saying it can not mount because it is a read only file system..

Erm, no again.  If you choose NFS, it expects the files to be on
a remote machine, again with similar structure to that above.

> #mknod /dev/hdb b 3 64
> #mkdir /cdrom
> #mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdb /cdrom

The RedHat mount is rather dumb - you can't tell it to mount readonly.
Mail RedHat about this please!

> I have been using the install text that is on the ftp server..
> it has been most helpful..

The install text is supposed to be brief yet concise for the initial
stages of the installation - it doesn't go into how to use the RedHat
installer.  Details of this are available on the RedHat Web site.
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  | +-+-+                                                     --- -+-
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What's the difference between the root disks for the various architectures
supposed to be exactly? I just tried creating a RiscPC boot disk from the
image on the Clan CD, and tried it out on the A3000. It seemed to work
perfectly - the Red Hat installer came up just fine, asked if I had a
colour monitor etc. If I had the relevant .RPM's in a position where I
could install them, I'm pretty sure it would have let me - I certainly
didn't see any errors up to the point where it asked what sort of ethernet
board I had. This also appears a little strange, given that the Red Hat
installer isn't supposed to work in 4Mb, but I was running from a 720K
ramdisk on a 4M machine....

Is there any chance of a libclite.so being released, so I can try and
build a basic rescue disk, like the slackware linux root disks?

-- James Craig <jcraig@mad.scientist.com>

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Hi, I have been talking to David Russling about getting linux-arm on my
ebsa285 eval board.  We want to do this so we can test some code we are
developing for the StronARM.  I grabbed kernel source from ftp.dec.com
that David had been working on, and I have succesfully cross-compiled a
kernel from an i386-linux machine.  David said to ask on the list if
anyone has any ideas about how I might get the kernel loaded onto the
board.  The only means it has to communicate to the world now is through a
serial port.  I realize this would be slow, but ... =)  Any ideas?  Also,
cc me with any replies, I am not on the list.  Thanks!

Kyle Mestery
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*SNIP*
The directory structure (which I would have expected to be on the
RedHat web site - there are links off my pages to their site) on the
CD Rom MUST be:

/RedHat/RPMS
/RedHat/base
/RedHat/instimage

If you don't have this, then the CD ROM will not be recognised.  Let
me know if it isn't on the RedHat site and I'll ammend my pages.
[btw, before you complain why I haven't done that yet it's because
 contary to what everyone seems to believe, I don't have a fast
 permanent network connection to browse the web].
*SNIP*


   I have absolutely no reason to complain.. I appreciate the replys and   
information which I
   have gotten from people on this list.. so far.. now I cant wait to   
make another CD..
   :-)


*SNIP*
> I try to mount my CDROM, but I can not get it to work, I keep getting   
an
> error saying it can not mount because it is a read only file system..

Erm, no again.  If you choose NFS, it expects the files to be on
a remote machine, again with similar structure to that above.

> #mknod /dev/hdb b 3 64
> #mkdir /cdrom
> #mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdb /cdrom

The RedHat mount is rather dumb - you can't tell it to mount readonly.
Mail RedHat about this please!
*SNIP*


   Thanx for the idea.. at least I know I am not doing something wrong..
   whew.. I felt dumb not being able to mount the CD..


   Thanx to all who replied..
   I am very greatful that there are people willing to take a few minutes
   and help me out..

   Your time, and help are truly appreciated..


 -Mike Short
mshort@vividimage.com  

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In message <Pine.SOL.3.96.970915092834.6265A-100000@chainsaw>, "Kyle A.D. Meste
ry" writes:
>Hi, I have been talking to David Russling about getting linux-arm on my
>ebsa285 eval board.  We want to do this so we can test some code we are
>developing for the StronARM.  I grabbed kernel source from ftp.dec.com
>that David had been working on, and I have succesfully cross-compiled a
>kernel from an i386-linux machine.  David said to ask on the list if
>anyone has any ideas about how I might get the kernel loaded onto the
>board.  The only means it has to communicate to the world now is through a
>serial port.  I realize this would be slow, but ... =)  Any ideas?  Also,
>cc me with any replies, I am not on the list.  Thanks!

I don't know much about the EBSA, but does it have the facility for you to put 
the kernel in ROM on the board?  That's what I've been doing while I develop a 
kernel for another StrongARM-based board.  A 4Mbit device seems sufficient to 
hold a zImage; you just need a modified head.S to make it fly.

p.


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James Craig wrote:
> 
> What's the difference between the root disks for the various architectures
> supposed to be exactly? I just tried creating a RiscPC boot disk from the
> image on the Clan CD, and tried it out on the A3000. It seemed to work
> perfectly 

I think the only difference is the collection of modules for things like
ethernet cards and SCSI cards which are probably compiled differently
for the two architectures; if your not loading the modules your probably
safe.


> board I had. This also appears a little strange, given that the Red Hat
> installer isn't supposed to work in 4Mb, but I was running from a 720K
> ramdisk on a 4M machine....

Sheesh don't you understand anything? If you don't tell the program
its not supposed to work it will; but once you come out and say
something like 'its not supposed to work' it will stop working :-)

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How do I loopmount a vfat formatted imagefile found on my hda1 (adfs).
I am trying to install ARMLinux via this file, which contain all the RedHat
installation files and RPMs.
And when mounted, how do I select that partition in the 'locate installation
files' menu.

BTW: I have already loaded the 'loop.o' module.

Regards,

Jan Magnussen
http://www.kom.auc.dk/~janm
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> How do I loopmount a vfat formatted imagefile found on my hda1 (adfs).
> I am trying to install ARMLinux via this file, which contain all the RedHat
> installation files and RPMs.
> And when mounted, how do I select that partition in the 'locate installation
> files' menu.
> 
> BTW: I have already loaded the 'loop.o' module.

  Have you compiled your own kernel?  I can't find a loop.o module with 
the latest precompiled one (I use the procompiled one rather than my own 
for the sound.o module :) )

  Anyway, as for loopback, you'll probably need to go and grab losetup 
from somewhere. It's not in ArmLinux, but is on slackware. Hopefuly it'll 
compile OK.

  I suspect we really need to use RedHat4 rather than 3 (Isn't that what 
we're using now?), as 3 is getting a bit long in the tooth now...

LOSETUP(8)             MAINTENANCE COMMANDS            LOSETUP(8)

NAME
       losetup - set up and control loop devices

SYNOPSIS
       losetup [ -e encryption ] [ -o offset ] loop_device file
       losetup [ -d ] loop_device

Ale.

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From: Jan Magnussen <janm@kom.auc.dk>
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On Wed 17 Sep, Ale Terlevich wrote:
>   Have you compiled your own kernel?  I can't find a loop.o module with 
> the latest precompiled one (I use the procompiled one rather than my own 
> for the sound.o module :) )

The loop.o is in :
ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/distrib/kernels/modules-rpc-1997.09.07.gz

>   Anyway, as for loopback, you'll probably need to go and grab losetup 
> from somewhere. It's not in ArmLinux, but is on slackware. Hopefuly it'll 
> compile OK.
> 
>   I suspect we really need to use RedHat4 rather than 3 (Isn't that what 
> we're using now?), as 3 is getting a bit long in the tooth now...
> 
> LOSETUP(8)             MAINTENANCE COMMANDS            LOSETUP(8)
> 
> NAME
>        losetup - set up and control loop devices
> 
> SYNOPSIS
>        losetup [ -e encryption ] [ -o offset ] loop_device file
>        losetup [ -d ] loop_device

Im sorry, but I cannot use losetup before I have installed ARMLinux, and I can't
install Linux before :
a) I get that imagefile mounted, or
b) I get a kernel that can read my ICS IDEFS interface (The current one reports
a lot of irq timeouts on the disc connected to ICS IDEFS)

So what I really need is a what I have to write to mount that imagefile e.g.
mknod /dev/hda1 b 3 1
mount -t adfs /dev/hda1 /hda1
/sbin/insmod /hda1/loop.o
mount -t vfat /hda1/ARMLinux -o loop

or something like that.

Then how to select that partition in the 'locate installation files' menu (the
only option now is /dev/hda3 - no /dev/hda1)

Or a kernel that supports my ICS IDEFS.

regards,

Jan Magnussen
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Ale Terlevich writes:
>   I suspect we really need to use RedHat4 rather than 3 (Isn't that what 
> we're using now?), as 3 is getting a bit long in the tooth now...

One of the problems I've found with RedHat 3.0 is that the FTP is definitely
*not* compliant with the RFC specs - it only sends CRs, not CRLFs.  This breaks
some RiscOS FTP software, and I don't doubt other peoples FTPds as well.

I have looked into the RedHat 4 installer, but there is very little
documentation on the actual installer itself (except for source code), and
nothing to tell you anywhere how to set up an installation filesystem.  RedHat 4
is a lot more complicated, and will take longer to sort out and get running than
RedHat 3 has.

I have already started to look into RH4, but until I get my full complement of
mass storage media back (Syquest are still stalling), I can't do anything to modify
the distribution.  (I'm now phoning them up *twice* a week, and just saying 'What's
the news?'  They reply 'Still waiting for Germany to send the drives back'.  And
then we have a discussion about how stupid this situation is since the old drive
worked with the cartridges that I need to work on the distribution, and isn't
there any way to hurry the return up).

My solution - never buy any hardware - it always fails and will always take
more than one month to fix/send replacement.  [Current list of manufacturers
with poor record: Syquest, Quantum].

Maybe I ought to put up a web page telling people about the current delay to the
project, giving exact details!
   _____
  |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+-
  |   |        Russell King        rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk        --- ---
  | | | |    http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/home.html      /  /  |
  | +-+-+                                                     --- -+-
  /   |               THE developer of ARM Linux              |+| /|\
 /  | | |                                                     ---  |
    +-+-+ -------------------------------------------------  /\\\  |

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Hi,

Yesterday I made an attempt to install ARMLinux from a parallel port Zip
drive on my RPC600, 1280Gb HD, 32Mb DRAM, 1Mb VRAM, IDE ATAPI CDROM
drive and a temporally Zip drive.

Yes, it failed.

I downloaded RedHat/RPMS and RedHat/base and placed them in the
linux subdirectory on the Zip disc. I also downloaded !PartMan,
!WriteDisc, !LinConfig, !Linux, RPC, RPC-ROOT and supplemental.

I am aiming at the harddisc install option.

I have partitioned my HD to 900Mb RiscOS, 292Mb Linux Native and 30Mb
Linux swap (1222Gb does not add up to 1280*1024*1024 but rather
1280*1000*1000) with !PartMan.

I think I set things up correctly with !LinConfig, and did create the
root-rpc and supplemental discs and was ready to go. After a
some failures trying to start !Linux, I noticed that !LinConfig did not
create the Choices:Linux directory which I had to create myself. I did
so and ran !LinConfig again. Now it produced a config file.

Then I tried to start !Linux with -bootkernel
ADFS::HardDisc4.$.ARMLinux.RPC and an error something like this: Buffer
overflow (arose from the line executing !RunImage). I also kept getting
this error, but cannot remember how I got rid of it: Invalid bmap file
(&EA000006). I circumvented it with my own Obey file (like this one):

WimpSlot 2048k 2048k
<Linux$Dir>.NewSetMode (or something like that)
<Linux$Dir>.!RunImage -config Choices:Linux.Config -list -bootkernel ADFS::HardDisc4.$.ARMLinux.RPC

Does that look wrong?

I changed the mode in NewSetMode to be one that my VRAM allowed
(1024x768x256).

I started the obey file and the kernel booted. It loaded the root
floppy, the installer showed up, I selected harddisc install and it
loaded the supplemental disc. Here I noticed that something was wrong
(not fatal):

The console driver kept messing the bottom lines up (made them
unreadable). When I switched with ALT-F1/ALT-F2 it did not redraw
correctly. When I scrolled the screen and the messy lines reached the
top, the text became readable again. Any further scroll made it all
start over. This also happened in 640x480x16. What can I have done
wrong?

Well, I went on, trying to ignore the previous error. I loaded the ppa.o
module with: /sbin/insmod /modules/ppa.o ppa_base=0x278
I created a node: mknod /dev/sda4 b 8 4
and mounted (just to check): mkdir /zip;mount -t vfat /dev/sda4 /zip
I checked the files and they looked ok (they did, so I unmounted the zip
again, as the installer wouldnt use a premounted directory. Or will
it?).

I let the installer carry on installing everything from zip to hda3
(292Mb partition). It estimated that it would need about 11 hours to do
so, so I left it the night over. When I woke up, I saw that it was not
able to find a kernel. I did not know where to place the kernel (and
where should I get it from? Is it the same kernel as the install
kernel?).

During the installation above I checked how the installer mounted the
zip disc, and it mounted it as type msdos. This did not seem to affect
the installer in any way (even though the long filenames had turned into
6chars~n.rpm). If it did affect the installer, could this be the cause
of the missing kernel?

As far as I could check (cd /mnt; bin/du -k), about 242000 Kb was
installed.

If I did forget to download the kernel, where kan I put it to complete
the install (I assume I should now select upgrade instead of install as
I have install the rpm files?).

regards,

Bernhard

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i need help. i got problems to acces like root in my linux terminal, maybe
some body change the permission. how i can to acces again?

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Bernhard Mogens Ege writes:
> I have partitioned my HD to 900Mb RiscOS, 292Mb Linux Native and 30Mb
> Linux swap (1222Gb does not add up to 1280*1024*1024 but rather
> 1280*1000*1000) with !PartMan.

That's because as far as the manufacturer is concerned (who is still on
planet Decimal), the drive is 1280MB.  However, as far as everyone else
is concerned, 1MB = 1024 * 1024 bytes.  So, the manufacturer says 1280MB
-> 1280000000 bytes -> 1220.7MB according to everyone else using the
right conversion factor.  It's basically a con that hard drive manufacturers
subscribe to.

> Then I tried to start !Linux with -bootkernel
> ADFS::HardDisc4.$.ARMLinux.RPC and an error something like this: Buffer
> overflow (arose from the line executing !RunImage). I also kept getting
> this error, but cannot remember how I got rid of it: Invalid bmap file
> (&EA000006). I circumvented it with my own Obey file (like this one):

If you followed the instructions in INSTALL, you wouldn't get this problem!
What happens is that the installer expects a valid partition to be accessible
if you have a configuration file (so that it can read the menu entries).
However, you haven't got that far.

The solution is do *not* create the configuration file before you've installed
Linux.

> I changed the mode in NewSetMode to be one that my VRAM allowed
> (1024x768x256).

This should not actually be necessary - RiscOS should choose a mode that
your hardware does support.  I am at the moment taking my RiscPC into 
work, and have to keep switching monitor types (AKF85 (1280x1024x256) to
AKF60 (1024x768x256)).  RiscOS appears to `do the right thing'.  Maybe
your monitor definition file for RiscOS isn't correct.

> The console driver kept messing the bottom lines up (made them
> unreadable). When I switched with ALT-F1/ALT-F2 it did not redraw
> correctly. When I scrolled the screen and the messy lines reached the
> top, the text became readable again. Any further scroll made it all
> start over. This also happened in 640x480x16. What can I have done
> wrong?

Which version of !Linux are you using (it'll tell you when it lists the
menu entries)?

> Well, I went on, trying to ignore the previous error. I loaded the ppa.o
> module with: /sbin/insmod /modules/ppa.o ppa_base=0x278
> I created a node: mknod /dev/sda4 b 8 4
> and mounted (just to check): mkdir /zip;mount -t vfat /dev/sda4 /zip
> I checked the files and they looked ok (they did, so I unmounted the zip
> again, as the installer wouldnt use a premounted directory. Or will
> it?).

The RedHat installer has many bugs.  Even the debugging in the installer
is buggy!  I wonder how RedHat ever got it working!

You should be able to select the ppa module straight out of the SCSI
host list (yes, it is a SCSI device, with a parrallel interface slapped
on the back).  You will need to tell it 'ppa_base=0x278' still.  A possible
speed up might be achieved with ppa_speed_high=0 and ppa_speed_low=3.  This
may give some performance enhancement, or may cause data corruption.  You
basically have to try some values to tune the driver to your parrallel port.
The defaults are ppa_speed_high=1 and ppa_speed_low=6.

> I let the installer carry on installing everything from zip to hda3
> (292Mb partition). It estimated that it would need about 11 hours to do
> so, so I left it the night over. When I woke up, I saw that it was not
> able to find a kernel. I did not know where to place the kernel (and
> where should I get it from? Is it the same kernel as the install
> kernel?).

Please see the FAQ.  There is a question on there (and the answer ;))
to tell you what to do for this.

> During the installation above I checked how the installer mounted the
> zip disc, and it mounted it as type msdos. This did not seem to affect
> the installer in any way (even though the long filenames had turned into
> 6chars~n.rpm). If it did affect the installer, could this be the cause
> of the missing kernel?

That is interesting actually.  I wouldn't have thought that it would
have found the files, but obviously I'm wrong.  Eek!  I was wrong - the
installer scans the hard drive for the partitions and works out what's
what - it's not neccessary to preserve the names at all, just so long as
they're unique! ;)  That means that it is possible to use the ADFS hard
disk to install Linux (after a few mods to the installer to recognise ADFS
drives).  Thanks for that bit of info! ;)

> If I did forget to download the kernel, where kan I put it to complete
> the install (I assume I should now select upgrade instead of install as
> I have install the rpm files?).

Again, see the same question on the FAQ.
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Hi,

 Is there a chance to see a driver for the Connect32 SCSI-2 card?

Thanks in advance,
Boris

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From: Chris Coe <chris.norsoft@zetnet.co.uk>
Subject: Problem with fpem.o
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Hi all,

Ok, first of all I'm an ARM Linux newbie so please be patient with
me if possible! Right, onto the problem...

After the thrills and spills of installing ARM Linux 2.0.31 from the
Clan CD and a glut of files from ftp.arm.uk.linux.org, I've now got
my system booting from the hard disk, but there is a problem. It
always crashes unrecoverably (cursor stops flashing etc.) when trying
to execute the line:

    insmod /lib/modules/misc/fpem.o
    
in /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit (I think that's where it was, anyway). I guess
this installs floating point support, but unfortunately it causes a
postmortem and then freezes the machine completely, requiring a hard
reset to get control back. Commenting out this line allows the system
to boot all the way to the login prompt, but after a successful login
the prompt immediately respawns. By booting from the installation
disk, I changed root's default shell in /etc/passwd to ash (instead of
bash). Now I can login, albeit with the error "ulimit: not found"
before the shell prompt appears. Trying to start another shell, such
as bash or zsh, and certain programs like adduser, causes the error
"Illegal instruction". I assume this is caused by the ARM trying to
interpret FP opcodes or some similar thing, so I suspect all the
problems are related to my initial problem with fpem.o. It installs
ok (automatically) when booting with the installation disks, and
appears in the lsmod list as you would expect.

All I know about UNIX so far is what I've read on this list and from
various things off the web, plus the ARM Linux installation notes.
Oh, and poking around myself of course. So, if you can offer any
advice, try to avoid the use of big technical words ;-) Thanks!

Cheers,

Chris.

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From: Chris Coe <chris.norsoft@zetnet.co.uk>
Subject: fpem.o problem again
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Hi all,

Sorry to follow up my original posting straight away, but I have since
learned that removing the 32Mb SIMM from slot 1 (slot 0 is 8Mb) cures
the problem, and the machine no longer hangs when attempting to load
fpem.o. Using a spare 4Mb SIMM that I had lying about, I tried various
combinations of 4/8/32, and the machine crashed every time the 32Mb was
plugged in, and never crashed when it wasn't. I have heard of a problem
like this before on PC cards, but my PC card works perfectly. So, is it
a problem with my DRAM or a memory limitation bug in fpem.o? And if it's
the former, what do I do??!!

Cheers,

Chris.

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Hi all.  The saga continues...

Well, my Syquest 270MB drive returned today, a month after I sent it back
for not reading new Syquest disks (but reading old disks ok).  I'll give you
a multiple choice.  What was the result of this:

A) The drive doesn't read any disks.
B) The drive reads the old disks, but not the new disks.
C) The drive reads all disks.

Well, if you picked A, you'd be wrong.  Also if you picked C, that's also
wrong.  B is the right answer!  Exactly the same as the first drive.  Well,
ok, not the first drive, but the second.  The first drive didn't have the
drive's internal connector soldered on to the circuit board.

So, I'm now back in the same position as I was a month ago, except that I
have had to pay the postage to return a perfectly healthy drive.

I wonder what story Syquest will come up with next?  The wind's blowing in
the wrong direction?  Maybe Saturn isn't aligned with Jupiter?

I'm certainly not going to send *anything* at all back to *any* company
ever again if it is still under warranty *until* I *receive* a *replacement*.
And I suggest the rest of the world does the same!  Does anyone else suffer
from these problems???

Aaaaarrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
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From: Graham Cant <citadel@dircon.co.uk>
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Hi All,

I'd like to try to install Linux (as supplied on the Clan CD-ROM),
can anyone offer any advice?

What extra files do I need to get from the ftp site? (I'm running an
SA RPC).

Is it possible to run Linux from a parallel Zip drive (avoiding
repartitioning my ADFS drives)?

-- 
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>>>>> "Russell" == Russell King <- ARM Linux Admin <rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk>> writes:

> Bernhard Mogens Ege writes:

>> I changed the mode in NewSetMode to be one that my VRAM allowed
>> (1024x768x256).

> This should not actually be necessary - RiscOS should choose a mode
> that your hardware does support.  I am at the moment taking my RiscPC
> into work, and have to keep switching monitor types (AKF85
> (1280x1024x256) to AKF60 (1024x768x256)).  RiscOS appears to `do the
> right thing'.  Maybe your monitor definition file for RiscOS isn't
> correct.

I changed the mode-def back, and it did not change anything.

>> The console driver kept messing the bottom lines up (made them
>> unreadable). When I switched with ALT-F1/ALT-F2 it did not redraw
>> correctly. When I scrolled the screen and the messy lines reached the
>> top, the text became readable again. Any further scroll made it all
>> start over. This also happened in 640x480x16. What can I have done
>> wrong?

> Which version of !Linux are you using (it'll tell you when it lists
> the menu entries)?

I am using v3.13. The error appears in X, too.

> That is interesting actually.  I wouldn't have thought that it would
> have found the files, but obviously I'm wrong.  Eek!  I was wrong -
> the installer scans the hard drive for the partitions and works out
> what's what - it's not neccessary to preserve the names at all, just
> so long as they're unique! ;) That means that it is possible to use
> the ADFS hard disk to install Linux (after a few mods to the installer
> to recognise ADFS drives).  Thanks for that bit of info! ;)

Glad I could help. :-)

About the ppa.o module, it seems as it is much faster now Linux is
installed. I wonder why. I did not use any of the speedups you suggested.

I tried to start glint for rpm management , but it needs python
installed. This appears not to be supplied as an rpm file.

I tried to run some of the x-games (on guy wrote a lot of them, e.g.,
xsnooker, xcannon, but they all core-dump) (might be because of the
display problem).

I am interrested in using the loop device, but as I understand, I need
losetup. I have been searching for the source for it, but cannot find
it. Can you direct me to a location where I can find it?

Bernhard

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From: Jan Magnussen <janm@kom.auc.dk>
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Hi!

I just installed ARMLinux from my ADFS partition using softlinks to my ext2
formatted partition.

Here is how to do it:
First you need some binaries: cp, ln and mv, I can mail these to you, if you
cannot get them from anywhere else.
Copy these to a msdos formatted floppy
Copy the RedHat/base files to your ADFS hdd as RedHat/base/*
Copy the RedHat/RPMS files to your ADFS hdd as RedHat/RPMS/*
Copy maketree, linkbase and linkrpms to the floppy. These scripts are listed
below.
Copy kernel to the floppy as vmlinux
Copy modules-rpc-1997.09.07.gz to msdos-floppy as modules.gz
Start linux with <Linux$Dir>.!Run -bootkernel <path to your kernel>
Follow installation until both Root and Supplemental disk is loaded.
Press Alt-F2

Type:
mknod /dev/fd0 b 2 0
mknod /dev/hda1 b 3 1
mknod /dev/hda3 b 3 3
mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /fd0
mount -t adfs /dev/hda1 /hda1
mke2fs /dev/hda3. This command is only nessecary if you haven't already
initialised your ext2 partition.
mount -t ext2 /dev/hda3 /hda3
cd /fd0
PATH=$PATH:.
cp mv /bin
cd ln /bin
cp maketree /
cp link* /
cd
maketree
linkbase
linkrpms
cd
umount /fd0
umount /hda3

Press Alt+F1
Follow installation as if you have copied the installation files to the root of /dev/hda3.
Do *NOT* format the partition when asked.

If you are not using the ADFS disc to install from, you may have to change some
of the paths used.

---- maketree ----
mkdir /hda3/RedHat
mkdir /hda3/RedHat/RPMS
mkdir /hda3/RedHat/base

---- linkbase ----
cd /hda1/RedHat/base
for i in *; do ln -s /hda1/RedHat/base/$i /hda3/RedHat/base/$i; done
cd /hda3//RedHat/base
mv skeleton.c skeleton.cgz
cd

---- linkrpms ----
cd /hda1/RedHat/RPMS/0
for i in *; do ln -s /hda1/RedHat/RPMS/0/$i /hda3/RedHat/RPMS/$i.rpm; done
cd /hda1/RedHat/RPMS/1
for i in *; do ln -s /hda1/RedHat/RPMS/1/$i /hda3/RedHat/RPMS/$i.rpm; done
cd /hda1/RedHat/RPMS/2
for i in *; do ln -s /hda1/RedHat/RPMS/2/$i /hda3/RedHat/RPMS/$i.rpm; done
cd /hda1/RedHat/RPMS/3
for i in *; do ln -s /hda1/RedHat/RPMS/3/$i /hda3/RedHat/RPMS/$i.rpm; done
cd /hda1/RedHat/RPMS/4
for i in *; do ln -s /hda1/RedHat/RPMS/4/$i /hda3/RedHat/RPMS/$i.rpm; done
cd

This method worked for me, and it installed all the files in less than half an
hour.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Jan Magnussen
http://www.kom.auc.dk/~janm
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On Sun 21 Sep, Jan Magnussen wrote:
> Copy the RedHat/RPMS files to your ADFS hdd as RedHat/RPMS/*

Of course all the RPMS cannot be held in one directory, so subdirectories
should be created under RPMS called 0-4 to make room for all the RPMS.
Copy the first 77 files into the '0' directory making sure that there are
no files called the same after truncating the filenames making the files
overwrite each other.

Regards,

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> 
> Sorry to follow up my original posting straight away, but I have since
> learned that removing the 32Mb SIMM from slot 1 (slot 0 is 8Mb) cures

  Hi,

   I think you problem may be due to your having >=24MB RAM.  I had a 
similar problem on my machine. It was cured by Russel, and a new set of 
root/supplemental disks and enw kernels were put online at the FTP site.

  Try using the latest ones of these you can.

Hope that helps!

Ale.

P.s. the disks are in

ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/distrib/disks/

and the kernels are in
ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/distrib/kernels/

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  Hi,

  I was just browsing the ftp site, when I noticed some new 2.0.31 
kernels online.

(btw. where does one get the 2.0.31 source from? I can't find it 
anywhere, sunsite.unc.edu seems to stop at 2.0.30!)

  Being a curious sort I downloaded the 9th september ones, and so my 
surprise I noticed that they have a cumana SCSI II module (v. 0.0.0!) so 
I thought I'd try it out!

 I don't know if it's supposed to be working yet (what with being v0.0.0) 
but here's the output I get when I try insmod cumana_2_mod.o, just incase 
it's useful.

(P.s. I have one internal drive (id. 6), and one external MO drive (id. 0)
and the card is id. 7)

Sep 22 11:23:11 garp kernel: scsi0: fas216: bus reset detected
Sep 22 11:23:11 garp kernel: scsi0 : Cumana SCSI II at port 80000000 irq 
32 v0.0.0 scsi NCR53C9x
Sep 22 11:23:11 garp kernel: scsi : 1 host.
Sep 22 11:23:42 garp kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 
0, scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 0x03 00 00 00 10 00 
Sep 22 11:23:48 garp kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 
0, scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 0x03 00 00 00 10 00 
Sep 22 11:23:48 garp kernel: SCSI host 0 abort (pid 0) timed out - resetting
Sep 22 11:23:48 garp kernel: SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
Sep 22 11:23:48 garp kernel: scsi0: fas216: bus reset detected
Sep 22 11:23:49 garp kernel: SCSI host 0 channel 0 reset (pid 0) timed 
out - trying harder
Sep 22 11:23:49 garp kernel: SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
Sep 22 11:23:49 garp kernel: scsi0: fas216: bus reset detected
Sep 22 11:23:49 garp kernel: SCSI host 0 reset (pid 0) timed out again -
Sep 22 11:23:49 garp kernel: probably an unrecoverable SCSI bus or device 
hang.


  I changed the MO drive's ID from 0 to 1 and get the same message except 
that now it's pid 1 (and id 1) that's referred to.

  I then disconnect my external drive and turn on the card's auto 
termination (From RiscOS), and I get the following messages....

Sep 22 11:49:13 garp kernel: scsi0 : Cumana SCSI II at port 80000000 irq 
32 v0.0.0 scsi NCR53C9x
Sep 22 11:49:13 garp kernel: scsi : 1 host.
Sep 22 11:49:15 garp kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 
7, scsi0, channel 0, id 6, lun 0 0x12 00 00 00 ff 00 
Sep 22 11:49:17 garp kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 
7, scsi0, channel 0, id 6, lun 0 0x12 00 00 00 ff 00 
Sep 22 11:49:17 garp kernel: SCSI host 0 abort (pid 7) timed out - resetting
Sep 22 11:49:17 garp kernel: SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
Sep 22 11:49:17 garp kernel: scsi0: fas216: bus reset detected
Sep 22 11:49:18 garp kernel: SCSI host 0 channel 0 reset (pid 7) timed 
out - trying harder
Sep 22 11:49:18 garp kernel: SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
Sep 22 11:49:18 garp kernel: scsi0: fas216: bus reset detected
Sep 22 11:49:18 garp kernel: SCSI host 0 reset (pid 7) timed out again -
Sep 22 11:49:18 garp kernel: probably an unrecoverable SCSI bus or device 
hang.

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Hi all!

Well, as I probably said, my drive returned on Friday.  I probably also
mentioned that it also didn't work with the new disks.  I have just been
on the phone to Syquest, and they'll like to have the cartridges and the
drive returned this time.

I have also checked to make sure that they have stock of my drive in case
they want to replace it.

This means again, that I won't be able to do any work on the RPMs for
ARM Linux.  Argh!

BTW, please don't use this email address!

--
Russell King

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Hi,
what about the latest release that people are working on? I have the need
and the time of going for (ie. porting) the latest kernel
(2.1.something-like-55-or-so) since I need the support for ROMFS and serial
console. Anyone with me?

/Olof

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Olof Backing wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> what about the latest release that people are working on? I have the need
> and the time of going for (ie. porting) the latest kernel
> (2.1.something-like-55-or-so) since I need the support for ROMFS and serial
> console. Anyone with me?

We would all like to be running the latest 2.1. kernels but unfortunatly the
elves are against us.

Until there is a definition for ARM ELF and then patches to GCC, binutils for it
we are stufed.
ARM have been promising the definition for ages now but so far I have
seen very little.

The 2.0.31 patches seem to work (give or take some nasties),
and I know some stuff has emerged into the 2.0.31 kernels
from the 2.1. series - but I doubt its everything you need.

As for 2.0.31 - the 2.0.31-9 patch seems to work on the old (A4xx) machines
with some minor tweaks, although at the moment the determination of MFM 
disc sizes seems to have broken as does the ether1 support (which works on 
other machines). On the positive side 2.0.31 seems to be SIGNIFICANTLY 
faster on the old machines; I mean shockingly faster; I mean it might
actually be usable! And we don't know why.....

Dave


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> Until there is a definition for ARM ELF and then patches to GCC, binutils for it
> we are stufed.
> ARM have been promising the definition for ages now but so far I have
> seen very little.

The definition is irrelevant. If ARM can't get themselves sorted out then 
declare an ARM "FreeELF" standard and use it. It's rarely worth sitting on
your arse waiting for a large standards type organisation to do something.


Alan

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> ARM have an officially allocated ELF number.
> They have defined the E(xecutable) stuff, but not the L(inkable) stuff.
> They do intend to do so at some undefined stage in the future.
> They would be 'unhappy' if there were a competing standard.  Even if it
>   uses a different magic number.
> In particular, they wouldn't be happy for it to be released.

Tough shit. Sun aren't terribly happy about Sparc Linux either.

> We could use the ARM number and come up with our own definitions for the
> Linking standard and hope that ours becomes accepted by everyone.  This
> would upset ARM a lot and probably cause problems if we ever changed over
> to an ARM-sanctioned one that was different to our proposed one.

Better to use the ARM number and spec for executables and a random number
for linking. gnu ld supports multiple link formats at once so it can then
link old and new format.

> Or we could wait for ARM to get their act together.

Every minute you wait another vendor doesnt bother using Linux and/or ARM.
We've made a decision not to use ARM almost solely on the lack of ELF tools.
Im sure NatSemi and Intel are happy with ARM right now.

Alan

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Hi,

I would like to build my own kernel and can only find the patches.

Can someone point me to the location of the actual kernel source? I did
look at www.redhat.com, but am unsure about what to fetch.

I am looking for version 2.0.31.

Bernhard

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On Fri, 19 Sep 1997, FABIAN PATINO (BIANCCIO) wrote:

> 
> 
> On Thu, 18 Sep 1997, FABIAN PATINO (BIANCCIO) wrote:
> 
> > i need help. i got problems to acces like root in my linux terminal, maybe
> > some body change the permission. how i can to acces again?
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
im the administrator of system linux, some hacker lock my acces like root
why can i acces again?

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> I would like to build my own kernel and can only find the patches.
> 
> Can someone point me to the location of the actual kernel source? I did
> look at www.redhat.com, but am unsure about what to fetch.
> 
> I am looking for version 2.0.31.
> 

 The latest patches to turn 2.0.30 into 2.0.31 seems to be
http://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/public/Mirrors/tsx-11.mit.edu/pub/linux/sources/system/testing/pre-patch-2.0.31-9.gz

Ale.

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I finally managed to install ARMLinux using DOS floppies only and having only
a Linux partition of 100Mb. It has been quite a boring task but it worked,
thanks to the ability of the new kernel/installation discs to mount DOS
floppies and ADFS harddiscs!

I just installed the base RPMs and now I am trying to install the C
Development sets.

Although I think I installed all the RPMs (the RedHat installer doesn't seem
to care if some RPMs are missing), I feel that some file is still missing,
for example passwd (I don't know where it should reside, probably in /bin).
Having installed most of the C stuff there are some headers missing in
/usr/include, /usr/include/sys/types.h tries to include a linux/types.h
although I have no linux directory in /usr/include. I don't know in which RPM
/usr/include/linux could be since I think I installed all the sensibly named
ones...

Can anybody help me please? Where do I find the missing data? If anybody has
a full installation using "rpm -q" it should be possible to tell where each
file comes from.

Regards,
Sergio

PS: Is it just me or this is the most quiet mailling list in the whole
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> Although I think I installed all the RPMs (the RedHat installer doesn't seem
> to care if some RPMs are missing), I feel that some file is still missing,
> for example passwd (I don't know where it should reside, probably in /bin).
> Having installed most of the C stuff there are some headers missing in
> /usr/include, /usr/include/sys/types.h tries to include a linux/types.h
> although I have no linux directory in /usr/include. I don't know in which RPM
> /usr/include/linux could be since I think I installed all the sensibly named
> ones...

In many installations, these are symlinks to inside /usr/src/linux.

> PS: Is it just me or this is the most quiet mailling list in the whole
> Internet? :-)

You're on the wrong mailing list.  Try linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu

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>ARM have an officially allocated ELF number.

That's true.

>They do intend to do so at some undefined stage in the future.
>They would be 'unhappy' if there were a competing standard.  Even if it
>  uses a different magic number.
>In particular, they wouldn't be happy for it to be released.

That's not what I understood from speaking to them.  Admittedly it does seem 
to be Russell's understanding, but...

p.


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Ale Terlevich writes:
>   I was just browsing the ftp site, when I noticed some new 2.0.31 kernels
> online.
> 
> (btw. where does one get the 2.0.31 source from? I can't find it 
> anywhere, sunsite.unc.edu seems to stop at 2.0.30!)

That's because the 2.0.31 source is ALPHA and not a real 2.0.31 source.  It's
2.0.31pre9.  You should not call this 2.0.31 *at all* and please refrain
from doing so - if you do, then it'll cause all sorts of problems (which I
don't want right now - I've got enough stress with manufacturers of computer
peripherals at the moment).  I'd just like to be given a break some time, so
if people could use the correct name, it'll really help (and it'll also help
you).

>  I don't know if it's supposed to be working yet (what with being v0.0.0) 
> but here's the output I get when I try insmod cumana_2_mod.o, just incase 
> it's useful.

The answer is that it is not supposed to be working just yet.  The code has
definitely moved on quite a bit since the copy that is on the FTP site, so
there's little point in modifing it - you'll just redo what I've been working
on, and probably wrongly.  I have a master plan concerning the AcornSCSI,
Cumana SCSI II, and some similar cards - it's called `lets do it the right
way and modularise it'. ;)

I think you'll also find that that version of the driver contains no functions
to read data from the card...  Command 0x12 is the IDENTIFY command that asks
the device what it is.  It naturally returnes a block of data, which isn't
being transferred anywhere useful.

The later driver (unfinished, but nevertheless more unfinished than the
previous) can read data, but slowly (the CumanaSCSI II card seems to have a
problem if you read too much data from it without noticing that it has aborted
the data transfer - the net result is that you check for interrupt, read a byte
and repeat.  It's a mega turkey)!

Anyway, next preliminary driver version next weekend (0.0.5) should do something
more useful, maybe even usable!
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On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 13:57:31 +0100 (BST) alan@cymru.net (Alan Cox) wrote:

>> Until there is a definition for ARM ELF and then patches to GCC, binutils for
>it
>> we are stufed.
>> ARM have been promising the definition for ages now but so far I have
>> seen very little.
>
>The definition is irrelevant. If ARM can't get themselves sorted out then
>declare an ARM "FreeELF" standard and use it. It's rarely worth sitting on
>your arse waiting for a large standards type organisation to do something.
>
>
>Alan

Yes - what do you think Russell?

Garan

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Not especially

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From: Sergio Monesi <msergio@tin.it>
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Subject: Missing passwd + more...
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I finally managed to install ARMLinux using DOS floppies only and having only
a Linux partition of 100Mb. It has been quite a boring task but it worked,
thanks to the ability of the new kernel/installation discs to mount DOS
floppies and ADFS harddiscs!

I just installed the base RPMs and now I am trying to install the C
Development sets.

Although I think I installed all the RPMs (the RedHat installer doesn't seem
to care if some RPMs are missing), I feel that some file is still missing,
for example passwd (I don't know where it should reside, probably in /bin).
Having installed most of the C stuff there are some headers missing in
/usr/include, /usr/include/sys/types.h tries to include a linux/types.h
although I have no linux directory in /usr/include. I don't know in which RPM
/usr/include/linux could be since I think I installed all the sensibly named
ones...

Can anybody help me please? Where do I find the missing data? If anybody has
a full installation using "rpm -q" it should be possible to tell where each
file comes from.

Regards,
Sergio

PS: I originally sent this message to arm-linux@tardis.ed.ac.uk because I was
subscribed only to that list. Someone (thank you Matthew!) told me that the
correct mailing list is linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu so I am now subscribing to
both...

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> to care if some RPMs are missing), I feel that some file is still missing,
> for example passwd (I don't know where it should reside, probably in /bin).

[ale@garp ~]$ rpm -qf /usr/bin/passwd
npasswd-1.2-6

> Having installed most of the C stuff there are some headers missing in
> /usr/include, /usr/include/sys/types.h tries to include a linux/types.h

  Ok, Dunno if they're in a rpm package, but I do know how to get them.

They come with a kernel, so get a kernel

ftp://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk//Mirrors/sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/kernel/v2.0/linux-2.0.30.tar.gz

then a patch from the arm-linux ftp site.

 Unpack the kernel into /usr/src

cd /usr/src
tar xvzf linux-2.0.30.tar.gz

and patch it...

gunzip -c patchfile.gz | patch -p0

then cd /usr/src/linux and read the README

 You need to create the symbolic links, configure the kernel and do a 
make dep to create all the necessary links in the tree.

  You can then delete it all except for the /usr/src/linux/include dir!

This is all from memory (albeit fairly recent memory!) to you#ll have to 
change things a bit.

  Good luck!

Ale.

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On Mon 22 Sep, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > Although I think I installed all the RPMs (the RedHat installer doesn't seem
> > to care if some RPMs are missing), I feel that some file is still missing,
> > for example passwd (I don't know where it should reside, probably in /bin).
> > Having installed most of the C stuff there are some headers missing in
> > /usr/include, /usr/include/sys/types.h tries to include a linux/types.h
> > although I have no linux directory in /usr/include. I don't know in which RPM
> > /usr/include/linux could be since I think I installed all the sensibly named
> > ones...
> 
> In many installations, these are symlinks to inside /usr/src/linux.
> 
> > PS: Is it just me or this is the most quiet mailling list in the whole
> > Internet? :-)
> 
> You're on the wrong mailing list.  Try linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu
> 
> 
How can I subscribe from this one and onto the other, I've been getting trickle from this mailing list for ages:-(
Regards,

Pete

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From Philip.Blundell@pobox.com  Tue Sep 23 19:28:56 1997
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>I've just been sent section 16 of the ARM Toolkit Reference manual in
>postscript format.  I'll forward it on to either of you if you want it.

Yes please.  I'm still flat out at work right now, but that might be about
to change, in which case I'll be back on the ARM toolchain.

p.



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I have dounwloaded the source for

kernel version 2.0.30

I am attempting to patch the source, and I have come across a few   
problems..

I do not know if these problems will affect my ability to properly   
configure.make a new kernel..


there is a file trying to be patched

/usr/src/linux/kernel/ksyms.ver    this file does not exist..


I went to another terminal and did this:

touch /usr/src/linux/kernel/ksyms.ver

told patch where to find the file..
then it generated 2 new files

/usr/src/linux/kernel/ksyms.ver.o0rig
/usr/src/linux/kernel/ksyms.ver.rej

I renamed the ksyms.ver.rej to ksyms.ver

I do onot know if what I did was wrong, but hey.. I dont know what else   
to do..

If you know what to do, or if you have the correctly patched ksyms.ver   
file pleae email it
to me..

 -M Short
mshort@vividimage.com  

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Is there a utility to open up the .rpm files in the arm-linux   
distribution.


Thanx  

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Hi,

I managed to fetch v.2.0.31pre9 (and patch it with the arm stuff). I
also managed to do a make menuconfig and used it to configure the kernel
I want. I made a make dep; make clean; make zImage

make zImage wouldn't work (complained about not being able to find a
rule for /usr/src/linux/vmlinux). I am not that familiar with makefiles
so I tried to do a make all (which should make a uncompressed
kernel). It did make an uncompressed kernel. :-)

So far so good. I typed make modules (as I did configure som of the
extensions as modules) and it failed to compile soundcard.c. It seems as
the sound-config.h was never created and could therefore not be
included, leading to lots of errors.

My sound settings where to enable sound as a module, enable VIDC sound
and the usage of /dev/audio and /dev/dsp. I did visit the setup menu for
the other sound-cards, but they appeared only to be for dos-boxes so I
typed N for each card, which made the configure script say something
about useless options after which it was overwritten by menuconfig
screen.

So, I guess that I may have misconfigured the sound thingy, but the make
zImage should work, right (the README.arm file said it should).

I was wondering, should ARMLinux really occupy 280Mb (include kernel
source) if one was to install everything on the ftp-site? I only have
10Mb left on my 292Mb partition. I was hoping it would consume less...

Bernhard

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On Tue, 23 Sep 1997, Michael Short wrote: 
> I have dounwloaded the source for
> kernel version 2.0.30
> 
> I am attempting to patch the source, and I have come across a few   
> problems..
> 
> /usr/src/linux/kernel/ksyms.ver    this file does not exist..
> 

  Dunno if this is the 'official' answer, but I just ignored it and the 
compile worked fine!

  Ale.

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> Is there a utility to open up the .rpm files in the arm-linux   
> distribution.

man rpm ?
(Assuming you've installed the rpm-2.3-1a5.arm.rpm!)

Ale.

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> Hi,
> 
> I managed to fetch v.2.0.31pre9 (and patch it with the arm stuff). I
> also managed to do a make menuconfig and used it to configure the kernel
> I want. I made a make dep; make clean; make zImage
> 
> make zImage wouldn't work (complained about not being able to find a
> rule for /usr/src/linux/vmlinux). I am not that familiar with makefiles
> so I tried to do a make all (which should make a uncompressed
> kernel). It did make an uncompressed kernel. :-)

  Yep. Same for me. After doing a make all, I then did a make zImage and 
it worked.

> So far so good. I typed make modules (as I did configure som of the
> extensions as modules) and it failed to compile soundcard.c. It seems as
> the sound-config.h was never created and could therefore not be
> included, leading to lots of errors.

  It worked fine for me. May I suggest that you try make config instead 
of make menuconfig?

> So, I guess that I may have misconfigured the sound thingy, but the make
> zImage should work, right (the README.arm file said it should).

  Yep, it should.

> 
> I was wondering, should ARMLinux really occupy 280Mb (include kernel
> source) if one was to install everything on the ftp-site? I only have
> 10Mb left on my 292Mb partition. I was hoping it would consume less...
> 

 Sounbds about right, but if you only have a 292MB partition, Why do you 
want all the stuff from the FTP site?  I suggest you get rid of some of 
it (using rpm -e).

Ale.

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Has anyone used the power management hooks in linux (APM) while running on
the StrongARM?

			-Debby

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I have successfully patched the source for
the 2.0.30 linux kernel.

I am about to try configuring the kernel and compiling it, but I have   
many questions.

I am going to compile the kernel on an intel based 486 machine, I then   
wish to
take the kernel on a floppy over to my RiscPC, and try it out.

What modifications need to be done to the files on the 486 machine, or   
what versions of compilers/tools/utils should be installed?

do I need to patch certain files/packages? do I need arm linux files that   
are included in the RedHat ArmLinux Distrib?

Which files would I need and where in the distrib are they located, and   
where on the i486 linux box
directory tree should these files go?

this may be simple for some, but I am looking to get all the files   
neccessary together and get compiling..
I find this to be rather confusing.. any documentation on this would be   
nice..
I may have overlooked a FAQ, or README file..

I hope someone can help with these questions..

also suggestions would be nice..

I have not attempted to compile anything as of yet, I wanted to ask about   
the above items first.. thanx..

 -M Short
mshort@vividimage.com




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Ale Terlevich writes:
> > I am attempting to patch the source, and I have come across a few   
> > problems..
> > 
> > /usr/src/linux/kernel/ksyms.ver    this file does not exist..
> > 
> 
>   Dunno if this is the 'official' answer, but I just ignored it and the 
> compile worked fine!

It isn't actually used in the compilation!  I'm not sure why I seem to have
one there, actually.  It may be left over from the 1.3 kernels (I patched
upwards from there to my current 2.0.31 kernel).
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Bernhard Mogens Ege writes:
> I managed to fetch v.2.0.31pre9 (and patch it with the arm stuff). I
> also managed to do a make menuconfig and used it to configure the kernel
> I want. I made a make dep; make clean; make zImage

I don't know why Linus says to make dep, then clean.  I've always
made clean, then dep.

> make zImage wouldn't work (complained about not being able to find a
> rule for /usr/src/linux/vmlinux). I am not that familiar with makefiles
> so I tried to do a make all (which should make a uncompressed
> kernel). It did make an uncompressed kernel. :-)

Yep - I removed the dependencies in arch/arm/Makefile (and forgot to
reinstate them before generating the patches - sorry).  You will have to
make all zImage.

> My sound settings where to enable sound as a module, enable VIDC sound
> and the usage of /dev/audio and /dev/dsp. I did visit the setup menu for
> the other sound-cards, but they appeared only to be for dos-boxes so I
> typed N for each card, which made the configure script say something
> about useless options after which it was overwritten by menuconfig
> screen.

I haven't actually tried make menuconfig lately, but I would have thought
that there should be very little difference between it and make xconfig.
I'll have a look at that and see what's going on.

> I was wondering, should ARMLinux really occupy 280Mb (include kernel
> source) if one was to install everything on the ftp-site? I only have
> 10Mb left on my 292Mb partition. I was hoping it would consume less...

You could remove the packages that you don't want - rpm -e <package-name>

To get a list, use rpm -qia.  For information on rpm, type rpm --help.
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Michael Short writes:
> Is there a utility to open up the .rpm files in the arm-linux   
> distribution.

rpm.

Type rpm --help for more information.  It should be installed in
/usr/bin or /bin once the installation is complete.
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Hi

I dont seem to have access to the www server:

http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html

I do have access to:

http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/

Is it being moved or something like that?

Bernhard

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Hi

I have 2 problems, one regarding xdm and the other about modules.

First the xdm errors:

Typing xdm as root lead to the following error (as found in
/usr/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-errors):  

X Version 11 Release 6 X Window System
(Protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6000)
Operating system: linux
Using VT 7
Server: support for 2 16 256 colors
Screen: 1024 by 768 pixels, 256 colour
xdm error (pid 955): Unknown session exit code 2816 from process 958

I checked /var/log/messages and found these messages:

Sep 24 23:12:18 skywalker kernel: xrdb: memory violation at pc=0x00c1a638, lr=0x00015fc0 (bad address=0x6c2a6e69, code 1)
Sep 24 23:12:19 skywalker kernel: xdm: memory violation at pc=0x00c1a638, lr=0x0002b260 (bad address=0x00000000, code 1)

startx itself starts the X server without problems, so what can the
problem be? I did use the default xdm setup files.


After compiling my own kernel and modules, I find that not all the
modules work. I issued the following command after the make
modules_install:

depmod -e -a 2.0.31

It should create the modules.dep (and it did) but complained:

The following 3 modules fail. All symbols in the failed modules exist
in System.map (what is the use for this file anyway), e.g.,
dev_queue_xmit_R8611f3bd exists as _dev_queue_xmit

*** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.31/net/eql.o
        dev_queue_xmit_R8611f3bd
        dev_kfree_skb_R5b08eaf6
        dev_get_Rfcaf4517
        register_netdev_R817314cd
        unregister_netdev_R5206da17
*** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.31/net/ppp.o
        tty_register_ldisc_Ra78a82ea
        dev_close_R89cf5dfb
        dev_alloc_skb_R7ea904f6
        netif_rx_R8cd152e8
        kill_fasync_R3f43f877
        n_tty_ioctl_R9d0793bc
        dev_kfree_skb_R5b08eaf6
        register_netdev_R817314cd
        unregister_netdev_R5206da17
*** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.31/net/slip.o
        dev_alloc_skb_R7ea904f6
        netif_rx_R8cd152e8
        dev_kfree_skb_R5b08eaf6
        register_netdev_R817314cd
        dev_close_R89cf5dfb
        unregister_netdev_R5206da17
        n_tty_ioctl_R9d0793bc
        tty_register_ldisc_Ra78a82ea

Did I forget to include something in the kernel (I did read the help (?)
text associated with each option to make sure that the kernel would
support what I think I need).

Bernhard

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At 08:29 1997-09-26 GMT, Bernhard Mogens Ege wrote:
>Hi
>
>I dont seem to have access to the www server:
>
>http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html
>
>I do have access to:
>
>http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/
>
>Is it being moved or something like that?

As of this afternoon all is working just fine.

/Olof

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> 
> Hi
> 
> I dont seem to have access to the www server:
> 
> http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html

I don't see a problem with it.  Do you want to try again?
(for reference, I'm accessing this from loughborough university)

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I am having problems getting my source for my kernel ready to rock and   
roll..
I there some kind of secret?

I have opened up my kernel source..
I have patched my kernel source..
(2.0.30)

I have checked my Makefiles..

I did a make config..

i then did make dep

I died on make dep.

no matter what I do, It stops during make dep.

I get out of memory errors.,

It says Error, can not load lib.4.so or something like that

has anyone had similar problems?
I am kind of frustrated.
do I need more memory? I have 10MB now..
I am compiling on a RiscPC..

any info as always is greatly appreciated..

 -M Short
mshort@vividimage.com  

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Michael Short writes:
> I get out of memory errors.,
> 
> It says Error, can not load lib.4.so or something like that

Do you have any swap space set up?  Check that the kernel is using
it ('cat /proc/meminfo' will do).  If you have some set up and it
appears that the kernel is not using it, then check your /etc/fstab.
You should have a line like (example):

	/dev/hda5 none swap sw 0 0

If not, then please add one, and then do 'swapon -a'.  You should
then see a message saying 'Adding Swap: 65532k swap-space (priority -1)'
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Hi,

I was just trying to install Angband 2.8.2 but failed. After setting up
the config,h-config, Makefile files I let it compile (make).

It failed as it could not determine what speed_t was. This was when
including termcap.h. Following all the #include's that termcap.h did I
finally found speed_t in asm/termbits.h. Strange, I thought, as it was
defined but it still failed. I then discovered that it was not
/usr/include/termcap.h that gave the problem, but
/usr/arm-unknown-linuxaout/include/termcap.h!

What is this arm-unknown-aoutlinux directory about? And why does it
contain include-files that doesn't work?

Well, I rename that directory so gcc wouldn't find it and recompiled. I
managed to compile everything, but I could not link. Among the link
errors was the symbol __strtol_internal, that could not be resolved. It
is defined in /usr/include/stdlib.h so I should think it would be in a
library, too, right?

The third strangeness is about /usr/include/ncurses.h. It seems to
include a file <unctrl.h> that should be included as
<ncurses/unctrl.h>. Should the files in /usr/include/ncurses/ be copied
to /usr/include/ ? (which does seem correct, even as it would overwrite
the old curses.h)

I am confused, what is correct and what is not?

Bernhard

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A while ago I posted a message asking for information about A5000 stuff
for the latest release.

Since there was no information forthcoming, I'll ask again ;-)

How soon will it be before we can have a working A5000 version of
2.0.30, or if plans on supporting the older hardware are on hold could
we have some sort of reason.

The reason I ask is because I've completely trashed my 1.3.35 setup, and
I would rather not go through setting it up again if there's a newer
version just round the corner.

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Hi,

I finally got xdm and other x-games to work. The solution was to compile
my own kernel and modules (but the config for th kernel does matter).

My third attempt at compiling the kernel produced the kernel that would
allow xdm to start properly. I am not sure what made the kernel work,
but I did disable version information on the modules and some other
net-stuff.

My only problem is now that during boot, all sorts of modules problems
seem to happen (non-fatal). None of the modules produced do match the
kernel (allthough they will load happily, even slip and ppp) and it
doesn't look good during boot (produces about 8-10 lines of warnings
from depmod). I also get messages about some missing modules (net-fp-4
and net-fp-5) later in the boot stage, I think just after entering
init-level 3.

Should I worry about these warnings/errors? ARMLinux does seem happy
everywhere else (hmmm, except for my screen problem). :-)

Bernhard

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Who is the maintainer of the sources for the EBSA-100 board? I'm planning
for a port of 2.1 to a EBSA-110 look-alike board.

/Olof

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> What is this arm-unknown-aoutlinux directory about? And why does it
> contain include-files that doesn't work?

This is where GCC installs its private header files.  The problem is that
we're still using the a.out libc 4.  This is why stuff is breaking.

> Well, I rename that directory so gcc wouldn't find it and recompiled. I
> managed to compile everything, but I could not link. Among the link
> errors was the symbol __strtol_internal, that could not be resolved. It
> is defined in /usr/include/stdlib.h so I should think it would be in a
> library, too, right?

Uuuuhhh.. I think you need to tell GCC to link against its own internal
library (it probably disabled this when it couldn't find its own library)
ohh.. hang on.  Just rename the include directory, otherwise GCC can't
find its internal library.

> The third strangeness is about /usr/include/ncurses.h. It seems to
> include a file <unctrl.h> that should be included as
> <ncurses/unctrl.h>. Should the files in /usr/include/ncurses/ be copied
> to /usr/include/ ? (which does seem correct, even as it would overwrite
> the old curses.h)

Don't know.  I'd be inclined to fix the ncurses.h file.  Anyone know?

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Hello,
what libc is the ARM Linux port based on?

/Olof

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> Hello,
> what libc is the ARM Linux port based on?

libc 4.  Since we do not yet have ELF, libc 5 is a no-go.  Though, since
we wll presumably skip libc 5 and move straight to libc 6 once we do have
ELF, a case could be made for doing an a.out libc 5.  It all depends if
someone feels it's worth the effort.  It probably isn't.

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I am preparing to compile a 2.0.30 kernel for my RiscPC

I have done a make config, and when i do a make dep I get an error..   
 here is what a few of the lines look like..

make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/arm/drivers/scsi'
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/arm/drivers/sound'
make[2]: *** No rule to make target `fastdep'.   Stop.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/arm/drivers/sound'
make[1]: *** [fastdep] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/arm/drivers'
make: *** [dep-files] Error 2


 It seem to try to make something called fastdep, that does not exist? is   
this a mispelling, should it be removed?

what should I do to properly setupup my dependencies before compiling?


thanx

 -M Short
mshort@vividimage.com




also  do I need a loader to get ArmLinux running on my DEC ebsa-110?
anyone who has actually got this running please mail me some ideas on how   
this was accomplished..

I have been trying to do several diffrent things with it.. I have a bootp   
server setup for it, and it now knows what ip it is assigned to use..


I am sorta clueless what I should do after this..

plz help..


THANX  

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Matthew Wilcox writes:
> libc 4.  Since we do not yet have ELF, libc 5 is a no-go.  Though, since
> we wll presumably skip libc 5 and move straight to libc 6 once we do have
> ELF, a case could be made for doing an a.out libc 5.  It all depends if
> someone feels it's worth the effort.  It probably isn't.

>From the last email/news that I've heard, ELF is pretty close for ARM...

I think that someone did try glibc, and I think that they got it going
with static libraries.  Obviously this isn't good since every binary will
be at least 100k in length (or there abouts).
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Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu
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Olof Backing writes:
> Who is the maintainer of the sources for the EBSA-100 board? I'm planning
> for a port of 2.1 to a EBSA-110 look-alike board.

You can't port 2.1 until we have ELF.  Do you have ELF?  I wish that I could
run the 2.1 kernels, but it just isn't possible at the moment with ARM.

BTW, for peoples info, I have sent a mail to ARM Ltd to tell them to get
their finger out or else they'll have someone else write their standards
for them.  So far, no response, so I might mail some more important people
with the same mail again...
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Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:

> BTW, for peoples info, I have sent a mail to ARM Ltd to tell them to get
> their finger out or else they'll have someone else write their standards
> for them.  So far, no response, so I might mail some more important people
> with the same mail again...

Well they've actually written the standard now, because their ltest
toolchain generates the stuff. Can you bung a copy to me when you've
fished it out? Probably no point in both of us attacking them in one go
:)

	Neil

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>BTW, for peoples info, I have sent a mail to ARM Ltd to tell them to get
>their finger out or else they'll have someone else write their standards
>for them.  So far, no response, so I might mail some more important people
>with the same mail again...

Nobody at ARM aside from Earnshaw has seemed more than slightly concerned by 
the prospect of having standards written by other people, and at least one 
person I've spoken to there seemed to view it as (a) inevitable and (b) not 
necessarily that much of a bad thing.

I've had somebody else mail me who's interested in working on ELF.  Haven't 
had time to reply to them yet, admittedly (bizarrely, due to being too busy 
working on NetBSD for the ARM) but I'll get around to it soon.

p.


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Subject: Re: making dep = making me confused?
To: mshort@vividimage.com (Michael Short)
Date: 	Tue, 30 Sep 1997 21:25:11 +0100 (BST)
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In-Reply-To: <3430250C@carlsbadpo.vividimage.com> from "Michael Short" at Sep 29, 97 04:32:00 pm
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Michael Short writes:
> I am preparing to compile a 2.0.30 kernel for my RiscPC
> 
> I have done a make config, and when i do a make dep I get an error..   
>  here is what a few of the lines look like..
>
> make[2]: *** No rule to make target `fastdep'.   Stop.
> 
>  It seem to try to make something called fastdep, that does not exist? is   
> this a mispelling, should it be removed?

Nope.  That is actually correct.  Make fastdep should work in there.  You
must run `make dep' in the linux subdirectory (the top of the Linux kernel
tree).  If this is what you did, you may have a broken make or shell.  Which
versions are you trying to use?

> also  do I need a loader to get ArmLinux running on my DEC ebsa-110?
> anyone who has actually got this running please mail me some ideas on how   
> this was accomplished..

You only need the bootp loader to load the kernel image at 0x8000, and a
serial console attached to COM2.  Kernel messages appear on COM2.

> I have been trying to do several diffrent things with it.. I have a bootp   
> server setup for it, and it now knows what ip it is assigned to use..

What you want to do is to also set up tftp.  The bootp loader first of all
asks the bootp server for it's IP address and then contacts the tftp server
to obtain an image to execute.

All that you need to do is to put the kernel on your bootp server, such as
(in my case):
	/var/boot/caramon/vmlinuz

Then, in your bootp configuration file:
	rp=/var/boot/caramon		specifies the root directory for
					the kernel once it's booted
	hd=/var/boot/caramon		specifies the location of the
					boot images
	bf=vmlinuz			specifies the name of the file to
					obtain.

I actually have a kernel directory, which contains symbolic links to the
actual location of the kernels (in the per-machine directory):
	/var/boot/kernels
	/var/boot/kernels/caramon -> /var/boot/caramon/vmlinuz

In my bootptab file, I have
	:bf=caramon:hd=/var/boot/kernels:rp=/var/boot/caramon:

This means that all the kernels are visible from the machine while it is
running, and you can still keep tight security on the tftp server.

BTW, /var/boot/caramon (or whatever) should at some point contain a root
filesystem for the EBSA, and in the above examples, caramon is the machine
name that I allocated my EBSA.
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  |   |        Russell King        rmk@ecs.soton.ac.uk        --- ---
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